From tritium at sdamon.com Mon Nov 11 16:53:32 2013 From: tritium at sdamon.com (Alex Walters) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:53:32 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Er..wat? Error on front page of python.org Message-ID: <5280FD7C.4070007@sdamon.com> http://i.imgur.com/4M197TM.png The current top item on python.org has the title python 2.6.9 released. the message is about 2.7.6's release. From amk at amk.ca Mon Nov 11 17:33:04 2013 From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:33:04 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Er..wat? Error on front page of python.org In-Reply-To: <5280FD7C.4070007@sdamon.com> References: <5280FD7C.4070007@sdamon.com> Message-ID: <20131111163304.GA66747@DATLANDREWK.local> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:53:32AM -0500, Alex Walters wrote: > The current top item on python.org has the title python 2.6.9 > released. the message is about 2.7.6's release. Oops, too much cut-and-paste. Thanks for reporting this; I've corrected the title. --amk From techtonik at gmail.com Mon Nov 11 20:12:49 2013 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 22:12:49 +0300 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Er..wat? Error on front page of python.org In-Reply-To: <20131111163304.GA66747@DATLANDREWK.local> References: <5280FD7C.4070007@sdamon.com> <20131111163304.GA66747@DATLANDREWK.local> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 7:33 PM, A.M. Kuchling wrote: > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 10:53:32AM -0500, Alex Walters wrote: >> The current top item on python.org has the title python 2.6.9 >> released. the message is about 2.7.6's release. > > Oops, too much cut-and-paste. Thanks for reporting this; I've > corrected the title. This should be automated. =) -- anatoly t. From jza at oooes.org Mon Nov 18 21:55:03 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 14:55:03 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spanish mailing list Message-ID: Hi I notice the mailing list doesn't show the Spanish mailing list. is there a reason for this? Can it be included into the paragraph devoted to the non-English mailing list text: > comp.lang.python in non-English > > There are some non-English language versions of this newsgroup. The links > provided here are to the Google Groups archive for each: > de.comp.lang.python(German), > it.comp.lang.python(Italian), > pl.comp.lang.python(Polish), > fr.comp.lang.python(French), and > cz.comp.lang.python(Czech). > ?List is here https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-es/ ? -- Alexandro Colorado -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jza at oooes.org Mon Nov 18 23:42:03 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 16:42:03 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing the wiki Message-ID: Hi I tried to edit the wiki but I am not sure if there is a protocol for contributors as some of the pages are 'locked' and can't accept changes. Should I get in touch with the original author/mantainer of the page? ?Regards.? -- Alexandro Colorad ?o? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Nov 19 01:02:19 2013 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 01:02:19 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing the wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201311190102.19887.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Monday 18. November 2013 23.42.03 Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Hi I tried to edit the wiki but I am not sure if there is a protocol for > contributors as some of the pages are 'locked' and can't accept changes. > Should I get in touch with the original author/mantainer of the page? Those of us with administrative rights tend to lock down repeatedly spammed pages because it gets tiresome to have to revert such "contributions" all the time. If you could tell me/us which pages would you like to edit and what your wiki username is, I/we can probably give you access. Paul P.S. The wiki guidelines are here: https://wiki.python.org/moin/WikiGuidelines From jza at oooes.org Tue Nov 19 00:57:18 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 17:57:18 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing the wiki In-Reply-To: <201311190102.19887.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <201311190102.19887.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Monday 18. November 2013 23.42.03 Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > Hi I tried to edit the wiki but I am not sure if there is a protocol for > > contributors as some of the pages are 'locked' and can't accept changes. > > Should I get in touch with the original author/mantainer of the page? > > Those of us with administrative rights tend to lock down repeatedly spammed > pages because it gets tiresome to have to revert such "contributions" all > the > time. If you could tell me/us which pages would you like to edit and what > your > wiki username is, I/we can probably give you access. > ?Yeah I figure out that much. I am trying to improve the Spanish page also wonder if I can link it to the frontpage of the wiki. I see many (like Chineese at https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide ) that insert a link on the header. JZA - SpanishLanguage https://wiki.python.org/moin/SpanishLanguage? > > Paul > > P.S. The wiki guidelines are here: > ?? > https://wiki.python.org/moin/WikiGuidelines > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Nov 19 13:01:14 2013 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:01:14 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing the wiki In-Reply-To: References: <201311190102.19887.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <201311191301.14640.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Tuesday 19. November 2013 00.57.18 Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > ?Yeah I figure out that much. I am trying to improve the Spanish page also > wonder if I can link it to the frontpage of the wiki. I see many (like > Chineese at https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide ) that insert a > link on the header. > JZA - SpanishLanguage > https://wiki.python.org/moin/SpanishLanguage? You should be able to update things like BeginnersGuide, which only needs you to be a logged-in user for editing rights, so adding a link to SpanishLanguage from that page should be possible. You also shouldn't have any problems editing the SpanishLanguage page: there's no ACL on it, so it should be editable by you. The FrontPage is locked down a bit more because it's an easy target for spammers and doesn't really need to change very much anyway. On that page, there's a link to the Languages page, which is a listing of different resources in languages other than English. If you think this should be more prominent, we can probably make some edits to make these resources more easy to find. It is possible to have translated versions of pages in MoinMoin. If installed, MoinMoin provides a page called P?ginaInicial for Spanish-speaking visitors, but it's possible to make such a page anyway and have it as a translated version of FrontPage. I think some sites don't really encourage this because it requires a lot of work from translators - you don't even see Wikipedia trying to have the same content on its front page or even on most content pages - but I don't have any objections to this in principle. One example of providing translations of pages in MoinMoin is this: http://wiki.fsfe.org/Advocacy_faq_en Here, pages are marked with "#language xx" and also have a suffix "_xx" on the page name (although you can also use translated page names if MoinMoin knows about the translation), and I wrote an extension to allow the display of translations for a given page (like similar Wikipedia/MediaWiki functionality). I wouldn't have a problem with such functionality on the Python Wiki, but it would need installing, and as far as I understand it the system administrators are rather conservative about what they install. Anyway, I hope this gives you some options. Paul From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Nov 19 14:43:18 2013 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:43:18 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing the wiki In-Reply-To: References: <201311191301.14640.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <201311191443.18770.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Tuesday 19. November 2013 14.04.52 Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > ?Thanks for your help, the reason why I wrote to the list is precisely > because I couldn't submit my editing to the SpanishLanguage page. Unless > the page has been recently unlocked. I'll try again.? I can't see any obvious technical reason why you shouldn't be able to edit that page, but I'll certainly try and look at any problems that may prevent you from editing. [...] > ?I also want to know about the non-wiki site, and how can I add or request > changes (see my other email on the topic). If you know about this process > please let me know.? I don't personally have anything to do with the non-wiki site, but the following links might be of interest: https://www.python.org/about/website/ https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWebsite > ?I include the raw text of the modified page, to see if someone else have > any issues applying the changes: > http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3635025? OK, I'll see if you're successful, but if you aren't, I'll try and give you access and also make any edits for you that you need to make. If you could report any errors then that would be useful, too. I suppose that errors you've seen up to now have been of the kind "You do not have permission to edit this page" or something like that. Paul From jza at oooes.org Tue Nov 19 14:04:52 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:04:52 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing the wiki In-Reply-To: <201311191301.14640.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <201311190102.19887.paul@boddie.org.uk> <201311191301.14640.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:01 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Tuesday 19. November 2013 00.57.18 Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > ?Yeah I figure out that much. I am trying to improve the Spanish page > also > > wonder if I can link it to the frontpage of the wiki. I see many (like > > Chineese at https://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide ) that insert a > > link on the header. > > JZA - SpanishLanguage > > https://wiki.python.org/moin/SpanishLanguage? > > You should be able to update things like BeginnersGuide, which only needs > you > to be a logged-in user for editing rights, so adding a link to > SpanishLanguage > from that page should be possible. You also shouldn't have any problems > editing the SpanishLanguage page: there's no ACL on it, so it should be > editable by you. > ?Thanks for your help, the reason why I wrote to the list is precisely because I couldn't submit my editing to the SpanishLanguage page. Unless the page has been recently unlocked. I'll try again.? > > The FrontPage is locked down a bit more because it's an easy target for > spammers and doesn't really need to change very much anyway. On that page, > there's a link to the Languages page, which is a listing of different > resources in languages other than English. If you think this should be more > prominent, we can probably make some edits to make these resources more > easy > to find. > > It is possible to have translated versions of pages in MoinMoin. If > installed, > MoinMoin provides a page called P?ginaInicial for Spanish-speaking > visitors, > but it's possible to make such a page anyway and have it as a translated > version of FrontPage. I think some sites don't really encourage this > because > it requires a lot of work from translators - you don't even see Wikipedia > trying to have the same content on its front page or even on most content > pages - but I don't have any objections to this in principle. > > One example of providing translations of pages in MoinMoin is this: > > http://wiki.fsfe.org/Advocacy_faq_en > > Here, pages are marked with "#language xx" and also have a suffix "_xx" on > the > page name (although you can also use translated page names if MoinMoin > knows > about the translation), and I wrote an extension to allow the display of > translations for a given page (like similar Wikipedia/MediaWiki > functionality). I wouldn't have a problem with such functionality on the > Python Wiki, but it would need installing, and as far as I understand it > the > system administrators are rather conservative about what they install. > > Anyway, I hope this gives you some options. > > Paul > ?I also want to know about the non-wiki site, and how can I add or request changes (see my other email on the topic). If you know about this process please let me know.? ?I include the raw text of the modified page, to see if someone else have any issues applying the changes: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3635025? -- Alexandro Colorad ?o? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Other users will be *warned* until 19.11.2013 07:42:54 that you are editing this page. Use the Preview button to extend the locking period. ? > > [...] > > > ?I also want to know about the non-wiki site, and how can I add or > request > > changes (see my other email on the topic). If you know about this process > > please let me know.? > > I don't personally have anything to do with the non-wiki site, but the > following links might be of interest: > > https://www.python.org/about/website/ > https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWebsite > > > ?I include the raw text of the modified page, to see if someone else have > > any issues applying the changes: > > http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3635025? > > OK, I'll see if you're successful, but if you aren't, I'll try and give you > access and also make any edits for you that you need to make. If you could > report any errors then that would be useful, too. I suppose that errors > you've > seen up to now have been of the kind "You do not have permission to edit > this > page" or something like that. > Paul > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jza at oooes.org Tue Nov 19 14:37:05 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 07:37:05 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Editing the wiki In-Reply-To: References: <201311191301.14640.paul@boddie.org.uk> <201311191443.18770.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Paul Boddie wrote: > >> On Tuesday 19. November 2013 14.04.52 Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> > >> > ?Thanks for your help, the reason why I wrote to the list is precisely >> > because I couldn't submit my editing to the SpanishLanguage page. Unless >> > the page has been recently unlocked. I'll try again.? >> >> I can't see any obvious technical reason why you shouldn't be able to edit >> that page, but I'll certainly try and look at any problems that may >> prevent >> you from editing. >> > > ?I get the following error: > Sorry, can not save page because "ambien " is not allowed in this wiki. > > Other users will be *warned* until 19.11.2013 07:42:54 that you are > editing this page. Use the Preview button to extend the locking period. > ?OK I solved it finally, is a weird bug . Seems that "ambien " is a prohibit word, except is not even a word, is part of "Python tambien ... " meaning "Python also ... ", because of some script in Moin Moin it wouldn't let me publish it until I remove that part. > ? > > > >> >> [...] >> >> > ?I also want to know about the non-wiki site, and how can I add or >> request >> > changes (see my other email on the topic). If you know about this >> process >> > please let me know.? >> >> I don't personally have anything to do with the non-wiki site, but the >> following links might be of interest: >> >> https://www.python.org/about/website/ >> https://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWebsite >> >> > ?I include the raw text of the modified page, to see if someone else >> have >> > any issues applying the changes: >> > http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3635025? >> >> OK, I'll see if you're successful, but if you aren't, I'll try and give >> you >> access and also make any edits for you that you need to make. If you could >> report any errors then that would be useful, too. 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Lemburg) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:29:18 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Hardcore is not only porn In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <528B75BE.2030305@egenix.com> On 19.11.2013 14:46, anatoly techtonik wrote: > wiki.python.org doesn't allow the word "hardcore" in contents, > which is a bad filter choice, because, well, some talks about > Python internals are hardcore for the most users out there. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardcore I've made the filter more selective. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Nov 19 2013) >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2013-11-19: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... today ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ From jza at oooes.org Tue Nov 19 15:38:37 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:38:37 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Hardcore is not only porn In-Reply-To: <528B75BE.2030305@egenix.com> References: <528B75BE.2030305@egenix.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 19.11.2013 14:46, anatoly techtonik wrote: > > wiki.python.org doesn't allow the word "hardcore" in contents, > > which is a bad filter choice, because, well, some talks about > > Python internals are hardcore for the most users out there. > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore > > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardcore > > I've made the filter more selective. > ?I had a related experiencie with "ambien " which I am not sure if it is even a word. Originally it was part of "Python tambien ..." so the word would be "tambien" yet the filter capture it partially.? > > -- > Marc-Andre Lemburg > eGenix.com > > Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Nov 19 2013) > >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ > >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ > >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ > ________________________________________________________________________ > 2013-11-19: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... today > > ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::::: > > eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 > D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg > Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 > http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mal at egenix.com Tue Nov 19 15:58:15 2013 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:58:15 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Hardcore is not only porn In-Reply-To: References: <528B75BE.2030305@egenix.com> Message-ID: <528B7C87.8020707@egenix.com> On 19.11.2013 15:38, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 19.11.2013 14:46, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> wiki.python.org doesn't allow the word "hardcore" in contents, >>> which is a bad filter choice, because, well, some talks about >>> Python internals are hardcore for the most users out there. >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardcore >> >> I've made the filter more selective. >> > > ?I had a related experiencie with "ambien " which I am not sure if it is > even a word. Originally it was part of "Python tambien ..." so the word > would be "tambien" yet the filter capture it partially.? Thanks. I've fixed that one as well. Ambien is a drug which some spammers tried to promote on the wiki. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Nov 19 2013) >>> Python Projects, Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope/Plone.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ 2013-11-19: Python Meeting Duesseldorf ... today ::::: Try our mxODBC.Connect Python Database Interface for free ! :::::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 http://www.egenix.com/company/contact/ From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Nov 19 16:22:53 2013 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:22:53 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Hardcore is not only porn In-Reply-To: <528B7C87.8020707@egenix.com> References: <528B7C87.8020707@egenix.com> Message-ID: <201311191622.54513.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Tuesday 19. November 2013 15.58.15 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 19.11.2013 15:38, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > >> On 19.11.2013 14:46, anatoly techtonik wrote: > >>> wiki.python.org doesn't allow the word "hardcore" in contents, > >>> which is a bad filter choice, because, well, some talks about > >>> Python internals are hardcore for the most users out there. > >>> > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore > >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardcore > >> > >> I've made the filter more selective. Of course, the need to use "hardcore" frequently in a reference like the Python Wiki is somewhat debatable. :-) > > ?I had a related experiencie with "ambien " which I am not sure if it is > > even a word. Originally it was part of "Python tambien ..." so the word > > would be "tambien" yet the filter capture it partially.? > > Thanks. I've fixed that one as well. Ambien is a drug which some > spammers tried to promote on the wiki. Yes, this is the reason for the unfortunate problem with editing. I hope you'll forgive us for the inconvenience you have experienced, Alexandro. Such spam patterns used to be very important tools in preventing people from vandalising existing content and creating huge amounts of spam content on the wiki, and you only need to look at certain public wiki installations to see what occurs when no such measures are in place. I would argue that anti-spam measures need to be a bit more varied these days, though, and I've written about that on this list in the recent past, I believe. Paul From techtonik at gmail.com Tue Nov 19 16:18:18 2013 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:18:18 +0300 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Hardcore is not only porn In-Reply-To: <201311191622.54513.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <528B7C87.8020707@egenix.com> <201311191622.54513.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: > On Tuesday 19. November 2013 15.58.15 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> On 19.11.2013 15:38, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> >> On 19.11.2013 14:46, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> >>> wiki.python.org doesn't allow the word "hardcore" in contents, >> >>> which is a bad filter choice, because, well, some talks about >> >>> Python internals are hardcore for the most users out there. >> >>> >> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore >> >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardcore >> >> >> >> I've made the filter more selective. > > Of course, the need to use "hardcore" frequently in a reference like the > Python Wiki is somewhat debatable. :-) Well, I guess who writes the most - wins. =) There is still a long way to go before Python Wiki can experience Wikipedia-like edit wars. > what occurs when no such measures are in place. I would argue that anti-spam > measures need to be a bit more varied these days, though, and I've written > about that on this list in the recent past, I believe. MoinMoin is not interesting. Everybody is using MediaWiki. Is there anything else, more advanced on the horizon? From brian at python.org Tue Nov 19 19:52:20 2013 From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 12:52:20 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Hardcore is not only porn In-Reply-To: References: <528B7C87.8020707@egenix.com> <201311191622.54513.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Paul Boddie wrote: >> On Tuesday 19. November 2013 15.58.15 M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> On 19.11.2013 15:38, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >>> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:29 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >>> >> On 19.11.2013 14:46, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> >>> wiki.python.org doesn't allow the word "hardcore" in contents, >>> >>> which is a bad filter choice, because, well, some talks about >>> >>> Python internals are hardcore for the most users out there. >>> >>> >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore >>> >>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hardcore >>> >> >>> >> I've made the filter more selective. >> >> Of course, the need to use "hardcore" frequently in a reference like the >> Python Wiki is somewhat debatable. :-) > > Well, I guess who writes the most - wins. =) There is still a long way to go > before Python Wiki can experience Wikipedia-like edit wars. > >> what occurs when no such measures are in place. I would argue that anti-spam >> measures need to be a bit more varied these days, though, and I've written >> about that on this list in the recent past, I believe. > > MoinMoin is not interesting. Everybody is using MediaWiki. Is there > anything else, more advanced on the horizon? I don't know what makes MoinMoin "not interesting", and your second sentence is surely false. If you're suggesting a move away from MoinMoin, you have a lot of work to do. From michael at voidspace.org.uk Wed Nov 20 01:22:39 2013 From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:22:39 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Paypal is a pain References: <528BC42B.9040105@ncf.ca> Message-ID: <73456B67-9618-41BA-B7CC-E4913D060002@voidspace.org.uk> Begin forwarded message: > From: "Colin J. Williams" > Subject: Paypal is a pain > Date: 19 November 2013 20:03:55 GMT > To: webmaster at python.org > Reply-To: cjw at ncf.ca > > Could you please let me know when you have normal credit card service restored for donations? > > My donation was rejected: > Your information is incomplete or incorrect. Please correct the fields below and try again. > > First Name: Please enter only letters, hyphens, spaces and commas. > Province: Please enter a valid Province. > Surely, they can remove the period after my initial. > Only US states are offered. There is no way to enter a correct province. > Thanks for your help. > Colin W. -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michael at voidspace.org.uk Wed Nov 20 01:24:42 2013 From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:24:42 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spanish mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Alexandro, Which page are you suggesting we add this link to? All the best, Michael Foord On 18 Nov 2013, at 20:55, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Hi I notice the mailing list doesn't show the Spanish mailing list. is there a reason for this? Can it be included into the paragraph devoted to the non-English mailing list text: > comp.lang.python in non-English > > There are some non-English language versions of this newsgroup. The links provided here are to the Google Groups archive for each: de.comp.lang.python (German), it.comp.lang.python (Italian), pl.comp.lang.python (Polish), fr.comp.lang.python (French), and cz.comp.lang.python (Czech). > > ?List is here > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-es/ > ? > -- > Alexandro Colorado > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From jza at oooes.org Wed Nov 20 03:05:11 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 20:05:11 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spanish mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Python non-English mailing list here http://python.org/community/lists/ On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Michael Foord wrote: > Hello Alexandro, > > Which page are you suggesting we add this link to? > > All the best, > > Michael Foord > > On 18 Nov 2013, at 20:55, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > > > Hi I notice the mailing list doesn't show the Spanish mailing list. is > there a reason for this? Can it be included into the paragraph devoted to > the non-English mailing list text: > > comp.lang.python in non-English > > > > There are some non-English language versions of this newsgroup. The > links provided here are to the Google Groups archive for each: > de.comp.lang.python (German), it.comp.lang.python (Italian), > pl.comp.lang.python (Polish), fr.comp.lang.python (French), and > cz.comp.lang.python (Czech). > > > > ?List is here > > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-es/ > > ? > > -- > > Alexandro Colorado > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pydotorg-www mailing list > > pydotorg-www at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > -- > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ > > > May you do good and not evil > May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others > May you share freely, never taking more than you give. > -- the sqlite blessing > http://www.sqlite.org/different.html > > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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TJG From michael at voidspace.org.uk Wed Nov 20 12:48:19 2013 From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:48:19 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Website SSH keys In-Reply-To: <528C8A80.8000406@timgolden.me.uk> References: <528C8A80.8000406@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: On 20 Nov 2013, at 10:10, Tim Golden wrote: > On 25/10/2013 18:01, Michael Foord wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> Who is able to add SSH keys for access to the python.org repo? I have >> a few outstanding requests on the pydotorg mailing list from people >> willing to help out with Planet Python maintenance and we're blocked >> on getting their keys added. > > I still don't have access, I'm afraid. (I just tried a svn+ssh checkout > which failed). I'm still trying to get you and Tres Seaver added. :-( Very frustrating. My next port of call is the infrastructure team. All the best, Michael Foord > > TJG -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From jza at oooes.org Wed Nov 20 13:22:30 2013 From: jza at oooes.org (Alexandro Colorado) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 06:22:30 -0600 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spanish mailing list In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The paragraph should say: There are some non-English language versions of this newsgroup. The links provided here are to the Google Groups archive for each: de.comp.lang.python(German), *es.comp.lang.python (Spanish),* it.comp.lang.python(Italian), pl.comp.lang.python(Polish), fr.comp.lang.python(French), and cz.comp.lang.python(Czech). On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Python non-English mailing list here http://python.org/community/lists/ > > > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Michael Foord wrote: > >> Hello Alexandro, >> >> Which page are you suggesting we add this link to? >> >> All the best, >> >> Michael Foord >> >> On 18 Nov 2013, at 20:55, Alexandro Colorado wrote: >> >> > Hi I notice the mailing list doesn't show the Spanish mailing list. is >> there a reason for this? Can it be included into the paragraph devoted to >> the non-English mailing list text: >> > comp.lang.python in non-English >> > >> > There are some non-English language versions of this newsgroup. The >> links provided here are to the Google Groups archive for each: >> de.comp.lang.python (German), it.comp.lang.python (Italian), >> pl.comp.lang.python (Polish), fr.comp.lang.python (French), and >> cz.comp.lang.python (Czech). >> > >> > ?List is here >> > https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-es/ >> > ? >> > -- >> > Alexandro Colorado >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > pydotorg-www mailing list >> > pydotorg-www at python.org >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www >> >> >> -- >> http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ >> >> >> May you do good and not evil >> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others >> May you share freely, never taking more than you give. >> -- the sqlite blessing >> http://www.sqlite.org/different.html >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > Alexandro Colorado > Apache OpenOffice Contributor > http://www.openoffice.org > 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 > > > > > > -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor http://www.openoffice.org 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin at v.loewis.de Wed Nov 20 13:49:09 2013 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:49:09 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Website SSH keys In-Reply-To: References: <528C8A80.8000406@timgolden.me.uk> Message-ID: <528CAFC5.6070809@v.loewis.de> Am 20.11.13 12:48, schrieb Michael Foord: > I'm still trying to get you and Tres Seaver added. :-( > > Very frustrating. My next port of call is the infrastructure team. > Apologies for the delay on my side. After Michael's last request, I got sick and unable to work on anything, and then I had forgotten about it until today. However, I think it would be best if the infrastructure team would officially take over maintenance of these keys. Regards, Martin From michael at voidspace.org.uk Wed Nov 20 13:51:12 2013 From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:51:12 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Website SSH keys In-Reply-To: <528CAFC5.6070809@v.loewis.de> References: <528C8A80.8000406@timgolden.me.uk> <528CAFC5.6070809@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <072BBB2E-F863-4FCA-B934-7F4A19343328@voidspace.org.uk> On 20 Nov 2013, at 12:49, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: > Am 20.11.13 12:48, schrieb Michael Foord: >> I'm still trying to get you and Tres Seaver added. :-( >> >> Very frustrating. My next port of call is the infrastructure team. >> > > Apologies for the delay on my side. After Michael's last request, > I got sick and unable to work on anything, and then I had forgotten > about it until today. > I certainly don't blame you Martin - it isn't your job to do it we just seem to have ended up in a position where only you *can* do it! Thanks very much for doing it though, we appreciate it. > However, I think it would be best if the infrastructure team would > officially take over maintenance of these keys. I agree. If you are able to (at some point) write up the basics of the procedure it would be helpful. All the best, Michael > > Regards, > Martin > > -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From zoom.quiet at gmail.com Mon Nov 25 05:38:48 2013 From: zoom.quiet at gmail.com (Zoom.Quiet) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:38:48 +0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] pls. appended PyCon CN(China) cn.pycon.org Message-ID: official site is: http://cn.pycon.org/2013 in fact we make 2 years PyConChina: http://cn.pycon.org/2011 http://cn.pycon.org/2012 and the PyCon official site had linked us: http://pycon.org/ -- ????, Pythonic! ????,????!????,????! KM keep growing environment culture which promoting organization be learnning! ?: http://about.me/zoom.quiet ?: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/cn/ From michael at voidspace.org.uk Mon Nov 25 14:06:27 2013 From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 13:06:27 +0000 Subject: [pydotorg-www] pls. appended PyCon CN(China) cn.pycon.org In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DDB32B2-5B1E-4D82-9CFE-2AC80E38CA83@voidspace.org.uk> Hello, Is there something you want us to do with this information? Do you need a link changing or adding somewhere? All the best, Michael Foord On 25 Nov 2013, at 04:38, "Zoom.Quiet" wrote: > official site is: http://cn.pycon.org/2013 > in fact we make 2 years PyConChina: > http://cn.pycon.org/2011 > http://cn.pycon.org/2012 > > and the PyCon official site had linked us: > http://pycon.org/ > > > > -- > ????, Pythonic! ????,????!????,????! > KM keep growing environment culture which promoting organization be learnning! > ?: http://about.me/zoom.quiet > ?: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/cn/ > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From andreas.roehler at online.de Mon Nov 25 14:35:14 2013 From: andreas.roehler at online.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andreas_R=F6hler?=) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 14:35:14 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spam at https://wiki.python.org/moin/EmacsEditor Message-ID: <52935212.8040105@online.de> There is spam at https://wiki.python.org/moin/EmacsEditor Thanks -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Michael > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From zoom.quiet at gmail.com Mon Nov 25 14:29:24 2013 From: zoom.quiet at gmail.com (Zoom.Quiet) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 21:29:24 +0800 Subject: [pydotorg-www] pls. appended PyCon CN(China) cn.pycon.org In-Reply-To: <2DDB32B2-5B1E-4D82-9CFE-2AC80E38CA83@voidspace.org.uk> References: <2DDB32B2-5B1E-4D82-9CFE-2AC80E38CA83@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: Huuu ! forget point the url: http://www.python.org/community/workshops/ yes! we want appended us link into PyCon list as: PyCon CN(China) -> http://cn.pycon.org thanx for all 2013/11/25 Michael Foord : > Hello, > > Is there something you want us to do with this information? Do you need a link changing or adding somewhere? > > All the best, > > Michael Foord > > On 25 Nov 2013, at 04:38, "Zoom.Quiet" wrote: > >> official site is: http://cn.pycon.org/2013 >> in fact we make 2 years PyConChina: >> http://cn.pycon.org/2011 >> http://cn.pycon.org/2012 >> >> and the PyCon official site had linked us: >> http://pycon.org/ >> >> >> >> -- >> ????, Pythonic! ????,????!????,????! >> KM keep growing environment culture which promoting organization be learnning! >> ?: http://about.me/zoom.quiet >> ?: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/cn/ >> _______________________________________________ >> pydotorg-www mailing list >> pydotorg-www at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > -- > http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ > > > May you do good and not evil > May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others > May you share freely, never taking more than you give. > -- the sqlite blessing > http://www.sqlite.org/different.html > > > > > -- ????, Pythonic! ????,????!????,????! KM keep growing environment culture which promoting organization be learnning! ?: http://about.me/zoom.quiet ?: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/cn/