From patcam at python.org  Fri Jun  1 19:44:46 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:44:46 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes -Approved- April 2012 -
	Please Post Online
Message-ID: <CAFy_4d+JizxJLmjF=AaRtiJw6coqvz31SyDZJNNw=3BoO4SNXw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pydotorg:

Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
locations:
please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
April 2012.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks,
Pat

-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From brian at python.org  Fri Jun  1 19:48:57 2012
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 12:48:57 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes
 -Approved- April 2012 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4d+JizxJLmjF=AaRtiJw6coqvz31SyDZJNNw=3BoO4SNXw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4d+JizxJLmjF=AaRtiJw6coqvz31SyDZJNNw=3BoO4SNXw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwqCGDiem7P4615h8BnL9ve9Zt4eM_nSWuZoMzOFw88Beg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Hello Pydotorg:
>
> Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/? at the usual web
> locations:
> please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> April 2012.
>
> If you have any questions, please let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Pat

Hi Pat,

This time instead of me posting them, I'm working on the finishing
touches of documentation to get you setup to be able to make these
postings yourself. I'll contact you off-list so we can setup a time to
go through it.

Brian

From patcam at python.org  Fri Jun  1 19:59:48 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:59:48 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes
 -Approved- April 2012 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAD+XWwqCGDiem7P4615h8BnL9ve9Zt4eM_nSWuZoMzOFw88Beg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4d+JizxJLmjF=AaRtiJw6coqvz31SyDZJNNw=3BoO4SNXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwqCGDiem7P4615h8BnL9ve9Zt4eM_nSWuZoMzOFw88Beg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dJzGX7DdCFmmY27Z8p4AOpRNza7c5kZU8ctUx9_kLW6AA@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like a great idea, Brian, generally speaking, the timing, however,
... I will
speak with you offlist (as suggested).

Thanks,
Pat

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Brian Curtin <brian at python.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> > Hello Pydotorg:
> >
> > Could you please post the following "PSF board meeting minutes" online,
> > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/  at the usual web
> > locations:
> > please see the attachment for the approved board meeting minutes for
> > April 2012.
> >
> > If you have any questions, please let me know.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Pat
>
> Hi Pat,
>
> This time instead of me posting them, I'm working on the finishing
> touches of documentation to get you setup to be able to make these
> postings yourself. I'll contact you off-list so we can setup a time to
> go through it.
>
> Brian
>



-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From brian at python.org  Wed Jun  6 00:53:41 2012
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:53:41 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [PSF-Board] PSF- Board Meeting Minutes
 -Approved- April 2012 - Please Post Online
In-Reply-To: <CAFy_4dJzGX7DdCFmmY27Z8p4AOpRNza7c5kZU8ctUx9_kLW6AA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFy_4d+JizxJLmjF=AaRtiJw6coqvz31SyDZJNNw=3BoO4SNXw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAD+XWwqCGDiem7P4615h8BnL9ve9Zt4eM_nSWuZoMzOFw88Beg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFy_4dJzGX7DdCFmmY27Z8p4AOpRNza7c5kZU8ctUx9_kLW6AA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAD+XWwquh_OiQ44OWxas2Vx1o8jyHR117hkSojFe-jh-E0i4yA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Pat Campbell <patcam at python.org> wrote:
> Sounds like a great idea, Brian, generally speaking, the timing, however,
> ... I will
> speak with you offlist (as suggested).

Since the timing doesn't work out for now, I went ahead and updated
the page at http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2012-04-30/

I also brought http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/ up to date.

From techtonik at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 11:21:52 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:21:52 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>

Search for references to the given page is broken for Python Wiki,
which makes some maintenance tasks impossible.
For example:
  linkto:PythonWikiMaintainers doesn't return any results, but...
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiMaintainers is present and..
linked at least from http://wiki.python.org/moin/Community
--
anatoly t.

From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Sun Jun 10 12:22:02 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:22:02 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> Search for references to the given page is broken for Python Wiki,
> which makes some maintenance tasks impossible.
> For example:
> ?linkto:PythonWikiMaintainers doesn't return any results, but...
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiMaintainers is present and..
> linked at least from http://wiki.python.org/moin/Community

I'm looking into this, thanks.


-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Sun Jun 10 12:43:37 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:43:37 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Radomir Dopieralski
<sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Search for references to the given page is broken for Python Wiki,
>> which makes some maintenance tasks impossible.
>> For example:
>> ?linkto:PythonWikiMaintainers doesn't return any results, but...
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiMaintainers is present and..
>> linked at least from http://wiki.python.org/moin/Community
>
> I'm looking into this, thanks.

It looks like the link cache for that page was improperly generated in
one of the previous versions of moin, possibly due to a bug in the
link parser. The bug is not there anymore, since editing the page
fixed this problem.
I forced re-generating all the caches, all the search results will be
correct now.

-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From techtonik at gmail.com  Sun Jun 10 14:09:51 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:09:51 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xJdjuBDovOw7NPfWKnCo7iX=OWREiG77-3ofS9E3t-_Mw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Radomir,

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 1:43 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Radomir Dopieralski
> <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:21 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Search for references to the given page is broken for Python Wiki,
>>> which makes some maintenance tasks impossible.
>>> For example:
>>> ?linkto:PythonWikiMaintainers doesn't return any results, but...
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiMaintainers is present and..
>>> linked at least from http://wiki.python.org/moin/Community
>>
>> I'm looking into this, thanks.
>
> It looks like the link cache for that page was improperly generated in
> one of the previous versions of moin, possibly due to a bug in the
> link parser. The bug is not there anymore, since editing the page
> fixed this problem.
> I forced re-generating all the caches, all the search results will be
> correct now.

Thanks for looking into this, but it doesn't seem the search is
completely fixed. For example, searching for "Presentation" doesn't
get http://wiki.python.org/moin/PresentationSoftware in results.

From tiedottaja at python.fi  Sun Jun 10 21:43:38 2012
From: tiedottaja at python.fi (Jyry Suvilehto)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 22:43:38 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add PyCon Finland to workshops page
Message-ID: <CA+XgfF8zaAAkwPfgp_39RxoLYtOgr2NZqD+CcPW1p2kzfUJKsQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Could you add http://fi.pycon.org with the label PyCon Finland to the
page http://www.python.org/community/workshops/ ?

Thanks in advance,

-- 
Jyry Suvilehto
Python Finland

From audreyr at cartwheelweb.com  Sun Jun 10 23:16:48 2012
From: audreyr at cartwheelweb.com (Audrey Roy)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 23:16:48 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request to add PyCon Philippines to workshop page
Message-ID: <CALKQf7fqUvc_HPkeoRqwHqsytta5AigpK8csZBt7=5KZAic=nQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there,

Could you please add PyCon Philippines (ph.pycon.org) to
http://www.python.org/community/workshops/ ?

Thanks!
--
Audrey Roy
Principal at Cartwheel Web / CEO of Consumer.io
cartwheelweb.com | www.consumer.io | www.audreymroy.com
Twitter: @audreyr <http://twitter.com/audreyr>
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From amk at amk.ca  Sun Jun 10 23:52:59 2012
From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:52:59 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Request to add PyCon Philippines to workshop	page
In-Reply-To: <CALKQf7fqUvc_HPkeoRqwHqsytta5AigpK8csZBt7=5KZAic=nQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALKQf7fqUvc_HPkeoRqwHqsytta5AigpK8csZBt7=5KZAic=nQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120610215259.GA10217@new-host.home>

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 11:16:48PM +0200, Audrey Roy wrote:
> Could you please add PyCon Philippines (ph.pycon.org) to
> http://www.python.org/community/workshops/ ?

Added; thanks!

--amk

From amk at amk.ca  Sun Jun 10 23:53:53 2012
From: amk at amk.ca (A.M. Kuchling)
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:53:53 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add PyCon Finland to workshops page
In-Reply-To: <CA+XgfF8zaAAkwPfgp_39RxoLYtOgr2NZqD+CcPW1p2kzfUJKsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+XgfF8zaAAkwPfgp_39RxoLYtOgr2NZqD+CcPW1p2kzfUJKsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120610215353.GB10217@new-host.home>

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 10:43:38PM +0300, Jyry Suvilehto wrote:
> Could you add http://fi.pycon.org with the label PyCon Finland to the
> page http://www.python.org/community/workshops/ ?

Added; thanks!

--amk

From frank at python.org  Tue Jun 12 17:01:39 2012
From: frank at python.org (Frank Wierzbicki)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 08:01:39 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
Message-ID: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Navigating to bugs.jython.org is giving a security warning (at least
from chrome) -- bugs.python.org is fine.

-Frank

From jeremy at tuxmachine.com  Tue Jun 12 19:16:11 2012
From: jeremy at tuxmachine.com (Jeremy Baron)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 13:16:11 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAE-2OCb=zSSNmAOaOrnqO_f5uqdBFtpS_bMasbVMAiJKw_pLsg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Frank Wierzbicki <frank at python.org> wrote:
> Navigating to bugs.jython.org is giving a security warning (at least
> from chrome) -- bugs.python.org is fine.

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://bugs.jython.org/

From techtonik at gmail.com  Tue Jun 12 19:24:01 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:24:01 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CAE-2OCb=zSSNmAOaOrnqO_f5uqdBFtpS_bMasbVMAiJKw_pLsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAE-2OCb=zSSNmAOaOrnqO_f5uqdBFtpS_bMasbVMAiJKw_pLsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8x+AKVoNnTdjaY9p-mrvgm+nd-ReEcmhnWj3nyeR1OYBeQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM, Jeremy Baron <jeremy at tuxmachine.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Frank Wierzbicki <frank at python.org> wrote:
>> Navigating to bugs.jython.org is giving a security warning (at least
>> from chrome) -- bugs.python.org is fine.
>
> http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox&hl=en-US&site=http://bugs.jython.org/

The same here.

From techtonik at gmail.com  Tue Jun 12 20:14:33 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:14:33 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xJdjuBDovOw7NPfWKnCo7iX=OWREiG77-3ofS9E3t-_Mw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xJdjuBDovOw7NPfWKnCo7iX=OWREiG77-3ofS9E3t-_Mw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xJK43ySA_o6o=OuQqi7OoyX9HWVa5nrOufv-AZsL0ePQg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Radomir,
>
> Thanks for looking into this, but it doesn't seem the search is
> completely fixed. For example, searching for "Presentation" doesn't
> get http://wiki.python.org/moin/PresentationSoftware in results.

Any news on that?
--
anatoly t.

From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Tue Jun 12 20:23:04 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 20:23:04 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xJK43ySA_o6o=OuQqi7OoyX9HWVa5nrOufv-AZsL0ePQg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xJdjuBDovOw7NPfWKnCo7iX=OWREiG77-3ofS9E3t-_Mw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xJK43ySA_o6o=OuQqi7OoyX9HWVa5nrOufv-AZsL0ePQg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS1gq8dQMYZC7=8B7beTX+2VcmkeMmnpcinFpNBzS9DVqg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Radomir,
>>
>> Thanks for looking into this, but it doesn't seem the search is
>> completely fixed. For example, searching for "Presentation" doesn't
>> get http://wiki.python.org/moin/PresentationSoftware in results.
>
> Any news on that?

No, I didn't find out what is wrong so far.
I still have a couple of things to check.

-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From patcam at python.org  Tue Jun 12 20:30:36 2012
From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 14:30:36 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] New PSF pending sponsor member: Hood Media GmbH -
	Please add to Website
Message-ID: <CAFy_4dKBF=N0TXBUMpynOoXVV-QaywjEYEK7DmGddeqe=V6xKA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Pydotorg team:

Could you please add the new pending PSF sponsor member logo for Hood Media
GmbH,
to the sponsor web page http://www.python.org/psf/.

Their company logo is attached to this email also a link to their company
website
is <http://lincolnloop.com>www.hood.de.

If you have any questions, please let me know.

Thanks in advance,
Pat


On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Ryan Hood - Hood.de <ryan at hood.de> wrote:

>  Hi Kurt, Hi Pat,
>
> Thank you for your Email.
>
> Please issue the invoice to:
> Hood Media GmbH
> Glashuettenstr. 4
> 52349 Dueren
> GERMANY
>
> We have only 12 employees in the company so this would be the $2000
> Sponsorship level.
> Attached you will also find a Logo for the sponsor-page.
> The link to our website is: www.hood.de
>
> Thank you also for your offer on putting a news on python.org. I would
> really appreciate a news or a link from python.org.
>
> Best regards from (currently) rainy Germany
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
>    <http://www.hood.de>
>
> *Hood Media GmbH*
>
> Ryan Hood (Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
>
>  Glash?ttenstr. 4
> 52349 D?ren
>
>  Tel. +49 2421 889377
> Fax +49 2421 388 4518
> ryan at hood.de
>
>
> Am 29.05.2012 18:24, schrieb Pat Campbell:
>
> Hi Ryan:
>
> This email notification is being sent to you to inform and to congratulate
> you of the
>
> PSF Board?s decision to recommend Hood Media GmbH to the PSF membership
> as
>
> a pending sponsor member. The board?s recommendation will be voted on by
> the PSF
>
> members next election which will take place mid-August 2012. The election
> results will
>
> be emailed out a week or two later.  Please see the following boardresolution that was
>
> voted on and passed on May 21, 2012 below:
>
> *RESOLVED, that the board recommends Hood Media GmbH as a pending
> sponsor member.*
>
> Please contact our Treasurer, Kurt B. Kaiser, regarding your annual
> sponsor fee level
>
> payment. After contacting the treasurer, you will then be issued an
> invoice so that your
>
> sponsor fee payment can be made to the PSF.
>
>
>  By email attachment: "Kurt B. Kaiser" <kbk at shore.net>
> By fax: 858 712 8966
> By postal mail:
>
> Python Software Foundation
> PO Box 37
> Wolfeboro Falls, NH 03896-0037
> USA
>
>  Additionally, please feel free to provide us with your company logo
> along with a link to your
>
> company?s website in order for use to display and list your company with
> all of our other PSF
>
> sponsors on this webpage: http://www.python.org/psf/
>
>
>  Moreover, if you would like a news item on the python.org home page or
> perhaps a blog entry
>
> somewhere, please mail your request to pydotorg at python.org.
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
> Pat Campbell, Secretary
>
> Python Software Foundation
>
>
> --
> Pat Campbell
> PSF Administrator/Secretary
> patcam at python.org
>
>


-- 
Pat Campbell
PSF Administrator/Secretary
patcam at python.org
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From techtonik at gmail.com  Tue Jun 12 21:04:53 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:04:53 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS1gq8dQMYZC7=8B7beTX+2VcmkeMmnpcinFpNBzS9DVqg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Radomir,
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking into this, but it doesn't seem the search is
>>> completely fixed. For example, searching for "Presentation" doesn't
>>> get http://wiki.python.org/moin/PresentationSoftware in results.
>>
>> Any news on that?
>
> No, I didn't find out what is wrong so far.
> I still have a couple of things to check.

Thanks for the heads up. Upgrading to 1.9.4 (I use
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiChanges for guessing current
version info) can hopefully make the task easier. From the
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/56eaf32027f4/docs/CHANGES :

   * Use logging.traceback to get more information if a indexing filter crashes.

There is also mention of a workaround against some memory leak in indexer.

From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Tue Jun 12 21:32:06 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:32:06 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xLK2+Js+JYpPi-0Qp9XzU=L-MW2Bp_UdXJ-thF9MQjMSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAPkN8xLK2+Js+JYpPi-0Qp9XzU=L-MW2Bp_UdXJ-thF9MQjMSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS2wQx31r2dY3VZyBH6G5+SY4VL3erRh1ALcvADE1TXt4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Radomir,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for looking into this, but it doesn't seem the search is
>>>> completely fixed. For example, searching for "Presentation" doesn't
>>>> get http://wiki.python.org/moin/PresentationSoftware in results.
>>>
>>> Any news on that?
>>
>> No, I didn't find out what is wrong so far.
>> I still have a couple of things to check.
>
> Thanks for the heads up. Upgrading to 1.9.4 (I use
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiChanges for guessing current
> version info) can hopefully make the task easier. From the
> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/56eaf32027f4/docs/CHANGES :
>
> ? * Use logging.traceback to get more information if a indexing filter crashes.
>
> There is also mention of a workaround against some memory leak in indexer.

Yes, I am quite aware about MoinMoin releases, thank you very much.

The search is now fixed, I have given up and just rebuild the Xapian index.
Unfortunately I didn't manage to find out how and why it got corrupted
-- it must have happened too long ago to leave a trace in the logs.

I will keep my eyes peeled to try and catch the reason if it ever happens again.

-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From techtonik at gmail.com  Tue Jun 12 22:36:32 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 23:36:32 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS2wQx31r2dY3VZyBH6G5+SY4VL3erRh1ALcvADE1TXt4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAJ2VPS2wQx31r2dY3VZyBH6G5+SY4VL3erRh1ALcvADE1TXt4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xKzndT+Hg0MMxMnN_=Gfc+3UK910qJBJTLD4M7yZeYLJg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Radomir Dopieralski
<sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Radomir,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for looking into this, but it doesn't seem the search is
>>>>> completely fixed. For example, searching for "Presentation" doesn't
>>>>> get http://wiki.python.org/moin/PresentationSoftware in results.
>>>>
>>>> Any news on that?
>>>
>>> No, I didn't find out what is wrong so far.
>>> I still have a couple of things to check.
>>
>> Thanks for the heads up. Upgrading to 1.9.4 (I use
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiChanges for guessing current
>> version info) can hopefully make the task easier. From the
>> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/56eaf32027f4/docs/CHANGES :
>>
>> ? * Use logging.traceback to get more information if a indexing filter crashes.
>>
>> There is also mention of a workaround against some memory leak in indexer.
>
> Yes, I am quite aware about MoinMoin releases, thank you very much.
>
> The search is now fixed, I have given up and just rebuild the Xapian index.
> Unfortunately I didn't manage to find out how and why it got corrupted
> -- it must have happened too long ago to leave a trace in the logs.
>
> I will keep my eyes peeled to try and catch the reason if it ever happens again.

Thanks. Now it works as expected. I wonder if this index has any
self-diagnostic harness, because IIRC bugs.python.org recently experienced the
same problem.
--
anatoly t.

From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Tue Jun 12 22:44:51 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2012 22:44:51 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] wiki linkto: search term is broken
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xKzndT+Hg0MMxMnN_=Gfc+3UK910qJBJTLD4M7yZeYLJg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xLXHJGsxpP26VR+MrJGiPpadrmebmoT+M0VnVPdfktw-w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0NnE-UPRTbbVO+K32TBqsO10eBdQ1JXVXnZoTk93C52w@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS2RT0XTm9GiROxomGX3ZrBARJUAbTpM5ncb3QPPu8VFFA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xJdjuBDovOw7NPfWKnCo7iX=OWREiG77-3ofS9E3t-_Mw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xJK43ySA_o6o=OuQqi7OoyX9HWVa5nrOufv-AZsL0ePQg@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAPkN8xKzndT+Hg0MMxMnN_=Gfc+3UK910qJBJTLD4M7yZeYLJg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS15Oto+FA2TAwpTzX6hS6YhNL4p7MZhDS+zOQQE9XjOyg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:36 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Radomir Dopieralski
> <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:14 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:09 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Radomir,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for looking into this, but it doesn't seem the search is
>>>>>> completely fixed. For example, searching for "Presentation" doesn't
>>>>>> get http://wiki.python.org/moin/PresentationSoftware in results.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any news on that?
>>>>
>>>> No, I didn't find out what is wrong so far.
>>>> I still have a couple of things to check.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the heads up. Upgrading to 1.9.4 (I use
>>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonWikiChanges for guessing current
>>> version info) can hopefully make the task easier. From the
>>> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.9/file/56eaf32027f4/docs/CHANGES :
>>>
>>> ? * Use logging.traceback to get more information if a indexing filter crashes.
>>>
>>> There is also mention of a workaround against some memory leak in indexer.
>>
>> Yes, I am quite aware about MoinMoin releases, thank you very much.
>>
>> The search is now fixed, I have given up and just rebuild the Xapian index.
>> Unfortunately I didn't manage to find out how and why it got corrupted
>> -- it must have happened too long ago to leave a trace in the logs.
>>
>> I will keep my eyes peeled to try and catch the reason if it ever happens again.
>
> Thanks. Now it works as expected. I wonder if this index has any
> self-diagnostic harness, because IIRC bugs.python.org recently experienced the
> same problem.

There was some thinking about adding a sanity check, but most of the
development is now with MoinMoin2, so it's not certain if 1.9 will see
any larger improvements like that.


-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From martin at v.loewis.de  Thu Jun 14 07:56:56 2012
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 07:56:56 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>

> Navigating to bugs.jython.org is giving a security warning (at least
> from chrome) -- bugs.python.org is fine.

I have now de-spammed the tracker, and requested rescanning, which
caused the security warning to be dropped.

It would still be good if the tracker didn't accept HTML attachments,
but treats them all as text/plain; see bugs.python.org for a reference
on how this can be done.

Regards,
Martin

From techtonik at gmail.com  Thu Jun 14 09:47:24 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:47:24 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xLUH57TJ9VnWd4Tt0tQHXRaU7aTC5xgMYrHZroZ3vXJoQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:56 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> Navigating to bugs.jython.org is giving a security warning (at least
>> from chrome) -- bugs.python.org is fine.
>
>
> I have now de-spammed the tracker, and requested rescanning, which
> caused the security warning to be dropped.
>
> It would still be good if the tracker didn't accept HTML attachments,
> but treats them all as text/plain; see bugs.python.org for a reference
> on how this can be done.

Should it be reported upstream to be fixed by default?

From techtonik at gmail.com  Thu Jun 14 15:27:33 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 16:27:33 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:56 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> Navigating to bugs.jython.org is giving a security warning (at least
>> from chrome) -- bugs.python.org is fine.
>
>
> I have now de-spammed the tracker, and requested rescanning, which
> caused the security warning to be dropped.
>
> It would still be good if the tracker didn't accept HTML attachments,
> but treats them all as text/plain; see bugs.python.org for a reference
> on how this can be done.

I don't what people are supposed to find by looking at
bugs.python.org, but a quick reply from roundup-devel revealed that
allow_html_file option. See below. This option since inception always
was set to "no", so the quiestion is who set it to "yes" for Jython
tracker and why?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John P. Rouillard <rouilj at cs.umb.edu>
Date: Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Roundup-devel] Fwd: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving
security warning
To: anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com>
Cc: roundup-devel <roundup-devel at lists.sourceforge.net>



In message
<CAPkN8xLg0uuCptd6iBKR8ybyhQTzgBogqhucDHTsD4hF6HzQcQ at mail.gmail.com> ,
anatoly techtonik writes:

>Does Roundup allow attaching arbitrary HTML

Yes

> and render it?

Only if you tell it to.

In the tracker you will find this setting in config.ini in the [web] section:

  [web]
  # Setting this option enables Roundup to serve uploaded HTML
  # file content *as HTML*. This is a potential security risk
  # and is therefore disabled by default. Set to 'yes' if you
  # trust *all* users uploading content to your tracker.
  # Allowed values: yes, no
  # Default: no
  allow_html_file = no

if you ignore the warning and set this to yes then the HTML will be
rendered.

>Is it possible to steal Roundup cookies this way and hijack sessions?

Yes it could be used for various things.

--
                               -- rouilj
John Rouillard
===========================================================================
My employers don't acknowledge my existence much less my opinions.

From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Thu Jun 14 18:52:43 2012
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (fwierzbicki at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:52:43 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going through http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment to
make sure I can test any changes I make to the Jython tracker. Martin
gave me access to the server where Jython lives, but I've forgotten
how to access it - I had kept notes but I managed to misplace them.
Admin functions are not where I shine :)

Once I get all of that figured out I'll set myself up with the
auto-nosy feature that Anatoly has pointed out and disable the html
feature. Once I have all of this straightened I'll see if I can find
someone from the Jython community that wants to take over with me as
backup.

Martin: I'm sorry that you had to get involved -- I'll try to keep
control of this in the future.

-Frank

From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Thu Jun 14 18:56:34 2012
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (fwierzbicki at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 09:56:34 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADrh4zJiYwowQqCA2vf4M2Cq2wj4cXv6NPb8D15VXc+HcdVGGw@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 9:52 AM, fwierzbicki at gmail.com
<fwierzbicki at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm going through http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment to
> make sure I can test any changes I make to the Jython tracker. Martin
> gave me access to the server where Jython lives, but I've forgotten
> how to access it - I had kept notes but I managed to misplace them.
> Admin functions are not where I shine :)
>
> Once I get all of that figured out I'll set myself up with the
> auto-nosy feature that Anatoly has pointed out and disable the html
> feature. Once I have all of this straightened I'll see if I can find
> someone from the Jython community that wants to take over with me as
> backup.
>
> Martin: I'm sorry that you had to get involved -- I'll try to keep
> control of this in the future.
Oops I meant for this to go the the meta-tracker --- please ignore.

-Frank

From techtonik at gmail.com  Thu Jun 14 23:48:00 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 00:48:00 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xKUKDdM=QMr1hdzZf5rRV7VCbqmXmkd+o5-tDC=v6NYmg@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:52 PM, fwierzbicki at gmail.com
<fwierzbicki at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm going through http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment to
> make sure I can test any changes I make to the Jython tracker. Martin
> gave me access to the server where Jython lives, but I've forgotten
> how to access it - I had kept notes but I managed to misplace them.
> Admin functions are not where I shine :)
>
> Once I get all of that figured out I'll set myself up with the
> auto-nosy feature that Anatoly has pointed out and disable the html
> feature.

I don't remember saying anything about auto-nosy. Must be someone else.
BTW, we are trying to mirror all configuration in Chef, so if you have
experience, feel free to translate wiki instructions into patches for
https://github.com/coderanger/psf-chef
--
anatoly t.

From martin at v.loewis.de  Thu Jun 14 23:55:27 2012
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 23:55:27 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xKUKDdM=QMr1hdzZf5rRV7VCbqmXmkd+o5-tDC=v6NYmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xKUKDdM=QMr1hdzZf5rRV7VCbqmXmkd+o5-tDC=v6NYmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FDA5DCF.4030706@v.loewis.de>

On 14.06.2012 23:48, anatoly techtonik wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:52 PM, fwierzbicki at gmail.com
> <fwierzbicki at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm going through http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment to
>> make sure I can test any changes I make to the Jython tracker. Martin
>> gave me access to the server where Jython lives, but I've forgotten
>> how to access it - I had kept notes but I managed to misplace them.
>> Admin functions are not where I shine :)
>>
>> Once I get all of that figured out I'll set myself up with the
>> auto-nosy feature that Anatoly has pointed out and disable the html
>> feature.
> 
> I don't remember saying anything about auto-nosy. Must be someone else.
> BTW, we are trying to mirror all configuration in Chef, so if you have
> experience, feel free to translate wiki instructions into patches for
> https://github.com/coderanger/psf-chef

Please don't. bugs.python.org has nothing to do with that.

Regards,
Martin


From techtonik at gmail.com  Fri Jun 15 00:08:00 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 01:08:00 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <4FDA5DCF.4030706@v.loewis.de>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xKUKDdM=QMr1hdzZf5rRV7VCbqmXmkd+o5-tDC=v6NYmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FDA5DCF.4030706@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xK+iZSpViFPCqKtP8Mg8C8B4ywt1TPRUp8isC2-+P7cuQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:55 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
> On 14.06.2012 23:48, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:52 PM, fwierzbicki at gmail.com
>> <fwierzbicki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I'm going through http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment to
>>> make sure I can test any changes I make to the Jython tracker. Martin
>>> gave me access to the server where Jython lives, but I've forgotten
>>> how to access it - I had kept notes but I managed to misplace them.
>>> Admin functions are not where I shine :)
>>>
>>> Once I get all of that figured out I'll set myself up with the
>>> auto-nosy feature that Anatoly has pointed out and disable the html
>>> feature.
>>
>> I don't remember saying anything about auto-nosy. Must be someone else.
>> BTW, we are trying to mirror all configuration in Chef, so if you have
>> experience, feel free to translate wiki instructions into patches for
>> https://github.com/coderanger/psf-chef
>
> Please don't. bugs.python.org has nothing to do with that.

With what? Making an automatic deploy scenario for
http://wiki.python.org/moin/TrackerDevelopment is a good thing. And
all trackers share common codebase - PSF, Meta, b.p.o and j.p.o,
aren't they?

From fwierzbicki at gmail.com  Fri Jun 15 00:10:37 2012
From: fwierzbicki at gmail.com (fwierzbicki at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 15:10:37 -0700
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xKUKDdM=QMr1hdzZf5rRV7VCbqmXmkd+o5-tDC=v6NYmg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xKUKDdM=QMr1hdzZf5rRV7VCbqmXmkd+o5-tDC=v6NYmg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADrh4zJVKohkZ3KssXMHSq2x4hALi+pA9n7ybRi7s4Cvfr3c5Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:48 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't remember saying anything about auto-nosy.
Sorry Anatoly - that was a goof - I thought I was adding the to
meta-tracker thread and mistook you for someone else :)

-Frank

From techtonik at gmail.com  Fri Jun 15 09:47:22 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 10:47:22 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] bugs.jython giving security warning
In-Reply-To: <CADrh4zJVKohkZ3KssXMHSq2x4hALi+pA9n7ybRi7s4Cvfr3c5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADrh4z+25q145DCebEbtKERjPdxu5mZbukTpPM7OJRjfW05KtA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FD97D28.1010703@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJSTCXijK4PCk-N7Ld62ZcWhXfg=rMSOLjN0bDNtfQNrA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADrh4zJCWfip2XmyT-UkEHUB3h_vP3KYORPkMYN4j3KnyAzuYw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xKUKDdM=QMr1hdzZf5rRV7VCbqmXmkd+o5-tDC=v6NYmg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CADrh4zJVKohkZ3KssXMHSq2x4hALi+pA9n7ybRi7s4Cvfr3c5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8x+hVFw2EN5QZ9Pzp_+_vcM_ooaQboWM-XvWRoDHdSU=oA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 1:10 AM, fwierzbicki at gmail.com
<fwierzbicki at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:48 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't remember saying anything about auto-nosy.
> Sorry Anatoly - that was a goof - I thought I was adding the to
> meta-tracker thread and mistook you for someone else :)

np ;)

From techtonik at gmail.com  Sat Jun 16 12:17:44 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 13:17:44 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap)
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xK+P5+eUsyfVSOp-A3uJ9hxe=8g6Wx3n1TTnJVEgLKLTg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow?
Do we have any public monitoring/metrics about how long it takes to
make a request?
Can we enable this info in the footer?


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Winston Wolff <winstonwolff at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM
Subject: Re: 1.2 beta release date/roadmap
To: pyglet-users at googlegroups.com


wiki.python.org/moin is too slow. It takes 10 seconds each time I want
to save my page. Can someone give me permission for editing
http://code.google.com/p/pyglet/wiki and I can put stuff there?

I'm going to post:
?- a To Do list so we can coordinate who is doing what
?- A list of configurations to be tested, with how has tested them and
the outcomes.



On Jun 15, 2012, at 9:46 AM, Winston Wolff wrote:

> Friday is my "20% day" so I'm going to do some stuff to help release Pyglet.
>
> I'm taking Anatoly's to-do list and posting it on this wiki page as a central coordinating point. Anybody who wants to do an item, put your name next to it. When it's done, put a DONE next to it.
>
> ?http://wiki.python.org/moin/Pyglet
>
> -Winston
>
> On Jun 13, 2012, at 12:27 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote:
>
>> Pri-1---
>> [ ] update web site
>> [ ] fix epydoc
>> ? [ ] add an issue to tracker
>> [ ] move web site to Bitbucket
>> ? [ ] create group 'pyglet'
>> ? ? [ ] add repository pyglet.bitbucket.org
>> ? ? ? ? (see https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/Publishing+a+Website+on+bitbucket)
>> ? ? [ ] add CNAME for pyglet.org to pyglet.bitbucket.org
>> ? ? ? ? (I am not sure, but it should work)
>> [ ] mention 1.2
>> [ ] direct link to Google Code from top menu
>> [ ] update Contribute to be clear
>> ? [ ] send patches
>> ? ? [ ] site in repository is broken
>> http://code.google.com/p/pyglet/source/browse/#hg%2Fwebsite
>> ? ? ? [ ] write instructions / fix it to work from checkout
>> (s) Richard needs time
>>
>> [ ] merge cocoa port
>>
>> [ ] write README
>> (s) how is pyglet 1.2 different from 1.1?
>> ? [ ] support 64bit Python
>> [ ] write ANNOUNCEMENT
>> (s) what's new?
>>
>> ---Pri-2---
>> [ ] update wiki pages
>> [ ] draw a line on http://code.google.com/p/pyglet/wiki/ReleaseSchedule
>> [ ] integrate patches
>> ? (s) Richard
>>
>> [ ] update issue tracker
>> [ ] add website label to issue tracker
>> [ ] allow users to assign labels when creating new issues
>> [ ] add 1.2 milestone
>> ? (s) Richard
>>
>> ---Pri-3---
>> [ ] build a windows installer
>> [ ] try
>> ? [ ] list problems
>>
>>
>> So, who can help with any of the stuff above?
>> Is there anything is missing?
>> Is there anybody besides Richard with an access to wiki?
>> Or we can use http://wiki.python.org/moin/Pyglet, because:
>> 1. it is free-for-all
>> 2. you can subscribe to pages to be notified about changes
>>
>> Yes/No?
>

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From martin at v.loewis.de  Sat Jun 16 12:27:17 2012
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:27:17 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release
	date/roadmap)
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xK+P5+eUsyfVSOp-A3uJ9hxe=8g6Wx3n1TTnJVEgLKLTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xK+P5+eUsyfVSOp-A3uJ9hxe=8g6Wx3n1TTnJVEgLKLTg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4FDC5F85.6010508@v.loewis.de>

> Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow?

Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure.

Regards,
Martin


From techtonik at gmail.com  Sat Jun 16 12:31:34 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 13:31:34 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release
	date/roadmap)
In-Reply-To: <4FDC5F85.6010508@v.loewis.de>
References: <CAPkN8xK+P5+eUsyfVSOp-A3uJ9hxe=8g6Wx3n1TTnJVEgLKLTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FDC5F85.6010508@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xJi=Jfav4AvKDrz7=iRE0mHwaOYWzR5AuP4KW8XFUjR3Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>> Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow?
>
> Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure.

And still - that's the cause of the bottleneck?

From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Sat Jun 16 12:46:14 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 12:46:14 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release
	date/roadmap)
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xJi=Jfav4AvKDrz7=iRE0mHwaOYWzR5AuP4KW8XFUjR3Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xK+P5+eUsyfVSOp-A3uJ9hxe=8g6Wx3n1TTnJVEgLKLTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FDC5F85.6010508@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJi=Jfav4AvKDrz7=iRE0mHwaOYWzR5AuP4KW8XFUjR3Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS2w2o4uQNaNTT0L6jxV1zhM8bD-isC56kLsrdjbwtix9w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:31 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>>> Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow?
>>
>> Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure.
>
> And still - that's the cause of the bottleneck?

I enabled the timing information.

I'm not 100% sure here, but on other large wikis the long saving times
were usualy due to having to process a lot of regular expressions from
all the user preferences in order to see whether the page title
matches their mail notification patterns.

-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From techtonik at gmail.com  Sat Jun 16 14:49:08 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:49:08 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki is too slow (Fwd: 1.2 beta release
	date/roadmap)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS2w2o4uQNaNTT0L6jxV1zhM8bD-isC56kLsrdjbwtix9w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPkN8xK+P5+eUsyfVSOp-A3uJ9hxe=8g6Wx3n1TTnJVEgLKLTg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4FDC5F85.6010508@v.loewis.de>
	<CAPkN8xJi=Jfav4AvKDrz7=iRE0mHwaOYWzR5AuP4KW8XFUjR3Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS2w2o4uQNaNTT0L6jxV1zhM8bD-isC56kLsrdjbwtix9w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xLx3mUaZ=pb-5gTa6taRfj5B3NG5WjW2tm-1Lg0MSTnWA@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:31 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 1:27 PM, "Martin v. L?wis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to speed up wiki.python.org somehow?
>>>
>>> Hopefully by migrating it to the new infrastructure.
>>
>> And still - that's the cause of the bottleneck?
>
> I enabled the timing information.
>
> I'm not 100% sure here, but on other large wikis the long saving times
> were usualy due to having to process a lot of regular expressions from
> all the user preferences in order to see whether the page title
> matches their mail notification patterns.

The results of write operations are very sad - 14 seconds.
Is it possible to postpone mail notifications or do them asyncronously?

    Page.execute = 0.000s
    antispam = 1.281s
    getACL = 0.003s
    init = 0.001s
    load_multi_cfg = 0.000s
    parsePageLinks = 0.010s
    run = 13.566s
    send_page = 0.050s
    send_page_content = 0.006s
    total = 13.567s

If we're going to stick these stats (they're worthy to have at hand)
then rendering it in one line that expanded if clicked for copy/paste
would make pages look as good as before.

From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Sun Jun 17 14:28:52 2012
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:28:52 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Error creating wiki account
References: <CAPVZ_XWX9pWxU4a00fedfH9pROD6jQbuXuzjcNuhST6CtUSoxg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E5DC9C9C-3DE8-4C79-B88C-7B1A1C595676@voidspace.org.uk>

A user is having problems creating a wiki account.

Michael

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Pariksheet Nanda <pariksheet.nanda at gmail.com>
> Subject: Error creating wiki account
> Date: 16 June 2012 22:09:06 GMT+01:00
> To: webmaster at python.org
> 
> Hello,
> 
> While trying to create a wiki account I got this error:
> http://i.imgur.com/yqWfG.png
> 
> The error occurred at 06162012 - 05:06:30 PM
> 
> Thank you for your help,
> 
>  --Pariksheet
> 


--
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/


May you do good and not evil
May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
-- the sqlite blessing 
http://www.sqlite.org/different.html






From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Sun Jun 17 14:43:55 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:43:55 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Error creating wiki account
In-Reply-To: <E5DC9C9C-3DE8-4C79-B88C-7B1A1C595676@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <CAPVZ_XWX9pWxU4a00fedfH9pROD6jQbuXuzjcNuhST6CtUSoxg@mail.gmail.com>
	<E5DC9C9C-3DE8-4C79-B88C-7B1A1C595676@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS36VtcdN=t_Sdrrf8QGuzJg-fBt25YqhPwp=hU8oJr9xQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Michael Foord <michael at voidspace.org.uk> wrote:
> A user is having problems creating a wiki account.
>
> Michael
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Pariksheet Nanda <pariksheet.nanda at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Error creating wiki account
>> Date: 16 June 2012 22:09:06 GMT+01:00
>> To: webmaster at python.org
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> While trying to create a wiki account I got this error:
>> http://i.imgur.com/yqWfG.png
>>
>> The error occurred at 06162012 - 05:06:30 PM
>>
>> Thank you for your help,
>>
>> ?--Pariksheet

I can't see any error at that time (assuming UTC) in the error log.

-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Sun Jun 17 14:47:29 2012
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 14:47:29 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Error creating wiki account
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS36VtcdN=t_Sdrrf8QGuzJg-fBt25YqhPwp=hU8oJr9xQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPVZ_XWX9pWxU4a00fedfH9pROD6jQbuXuzjcNuhST6CtUSoxg@mail.gmail.com>
	<E5DC9C9C-3DE8-4C79-B88C-7B1A1C595676@voidspace.org.uk>
	<CAJ2VPS36VtcdN=t_Sdrrf8QGuzJg-fBt25YqhPwp=hU8oJr9xQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJ2VPS0adNsQ1+-8aHOog24uKmJhjFKj0f-yH+7KU3NSyq6_Gw@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Michael Foord <michael at voidspace.org.uk> wrote:
>> A user is having problems creating a wiki account.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>> From: Pariksheet Nanda <pariksheet.nanda at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Error creating wiki account
>>> Date: 16 June 2012 22:09:06 GMT+01:00
>>> To: webmaster at python.org
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> While trying to create a wiki account I got this error:
>>> http://i.imgur.com/yqWfG.png
>>>
>>> The error occurred at 06162012 - 05:06:30 PM
>>>
>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>
>>> ?--Pariksheet
>
> I can't see any error at that time (assuming UTC) in the error log.

Looking for new account creation, I found the error:

[Sat Jun 16 23:04:18 2012] [error] [client XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX] Premature
end of script headers: moin.wsgi, referer:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonMed?action=newaccount

Unfortunately that's all that is in the log, except for the fact that
it's surrounded by messages indicating that the wiki processes were
starting up at that time after being killed.
-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

From pariksheet.nanda at gmail.com  Sun Jun 17 15:21:48 2012
From: pariksheet.nanda at gmail.com (Pariksheet Nanda)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:21:48 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Error creating wiki account
In-Reply-To: <CAJ2VPS0adNsQ1+-8aHOog24uKmJhjFKj0f-yH+7KU3NSyq6_Gw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPVZ_XWX9pWxU4a00fedfH9pROD6jQbuXuzjcNuhST6CtUSoxg@mail.gmail.com>
	<E5DC9C9C-3DE8-4C79-B88C-7B1A1C595676@voidspace.org.uk>
	<CAJ2VPS36VtcdN=t_Sdrrf8QGuzJg-fBt25YqhPwp=hU8oJr9xQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAJ2VPS0adNsQ1+-8aHOog24uKmJhjFKj0f-yH+7KU3NSyq6_Gw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPVZ_XUpKH53Xogk2FT5VyEkUmbQGidsRUo4UYcnBp0X+49-3A@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:47 AM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:43 PM, Radomir Dopieralski <sheep at sheep.art.pl> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Michael Foord <michael at voidspace.org.uk> wrote:
>>> A user is having problems creating a wiki account.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> From: Pariksheet Nanda <pariksheet.nanda at gmail.com>
>>>> Subject: Error creating wiki account
>>>> Date: 16 June 2012 22:09:06 GMT+01:00
>>>> To: webmaster at python.org
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> While trying to create a wiki account I got this error:
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/yqWfG.png
>>>>
>>>> The error occurred at 06162012 - 05:06:30 PM
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your help,
>>>>
>>>> ?--Pariksheet
>>
>> I can't see any error at that time (assuming UTC) in the error log.
>
> Looking for new account creation, I found the error:
>
> [Sat Jun 16 23:04:18 2012] [error] [client XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX] Premature
> end of script headers: moin.wsgi, referer:
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonMed?action=newaccount
>
> Unfortunately that's all that is in the log, except for the fact that
> it's surrounded by messages indicating that the wiki processes were
> starting up at that time after being killed.

I tried creating a wiki account again now and it worked.
Thanks for your help investigating this!

> Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl

Pariksheet

From dickinsm at gmail.com  Sun Jun 17 21:08:18 2012
From: dickinsm at gmail.com (Mark Dickinson)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 20:08:18 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
Message-ID: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>

Due to some recent server changes at Enthought, the link to EPD on the
'Download Python' page (http://www.python.org/download/) is now
broken.  It's currently pointing to

   http://enthought.com/products/epd.php

It should be pointing to

   http://www.enthought.com/products/epd.php

instead.  If anyone has time to make this change, it would be much
appreciated.  I'd also be happy to make the change myself, given
access.

Thanks,

Mark

From g.brandl at gmx.net  Sun Jun 17 21:32:38 2012
From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 21:32:38 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <jrlbbp$3a7$1@dough.gmane.org>

Am 17.06.2012 21:08, schrieb Mark Dickinson:
> Due to some recent server changes at Enthought, the link to EPD on the
> 'Download Python' page (http://www.python.org/download/) is now
> broken.  It's currently pointing to
> 
>    http://enthought.com/products/epd.php
> 
> It should be pointing to
> 
>    http://www.enthought.com/products/epd.php


Fixed, thanks.

Georg



From dickinsm at gmail.com  Sun Jun 17 21:36:58 2012
From: dickinsm at gmail.com (Mark Dickinson)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 20:36:58 +0100
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <jrlbbp$3a7$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<jrlbbp$3a7$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <CAAu3qLV0-yPEW6kqCJCReLK+TOD7he1-DLjvCJ5ng8oxpzc_eQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Georg Brandl <g.brandl at gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 17.06.2012 21:08, schrieb Mark Dickinson:
>> Due to some recent server changes at Enthought, the link to EPD on the
>> 'Download Python' page (http://www.python.org/download/) is now
>> broken.
>
> Fixed, thanks.
>
> Georg

Thanks, Georg!

Mark

From techtonik at gmail.com  Mon Jun 18 10:57:29 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:57:29 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPkN8xLajOyeW1xdwUaChCHRMgqCB0KPhmWf20G_nbL71YOPVQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Mark Dickinson <dickinsm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Due to some recent server changes at Enthought, the link to EPD on the
> 'Download Python' page (http://www.python.org/download/) is now
> broken. ?It's currently pointing to
>
> ? http://enthought.com/products/epd.php
>
> It should be pointing to
>
> ? http://www.enthought.com/products/epd.php

.php ?!?
--
anatoly t.

From rosuav at gmail.com  Mon Jun 18 11:00:44 2012
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 19:00:44 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xLajOyeW1xdwUaChCHRMgqCB0KPhmWf20G_nbL71YOPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xLajOyeW1xdwUaChCHRMgqCB0KPhmWf20G_nbL71YOPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPTjJmoUTaV=vvnpahwhQghZsfvr4SODVx8TbOjuzpYg2UWdJw@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Mark Dickinson <dickinsm at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Due to some recent server changes at Enthought, the link to EPD on the
>> 'Download Python' page (http://www.python.org/download/) is now
>> broken. ?It's currently pointing to
>>
>> ? http://enthought.com/products/epd.php
>>
>> It should be pointing to
>>
>> ? http://www.enthought.com/products/epd.php
>
> .php ?!?

Hey, not everyone has enlightened web hosting :) And even those of us
who do are not always able to do everything we want to. My current
hosting box handles a number of sites including several that I don't
control, so I can't strip out Apache and replace it with Pike and
WarmPotato, but once WP gets mature enough, I'll move Apache and
bounce everything through... until then, I'm not eating my own
dogfood, and parts of my site are still run on PHP.

No need to boggle :)

ChrisA

From techtonik at gmail.com  Mon Jun 18 19:33:57 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2012 20:33:57 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmoUTaV=vvnpahwhQghZsfvr4SODVx8TbOjuzpYg2UWdJw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xLajOyeW1xdwUaChCHRMgqCB0KPhmWf20G_nbL71YOPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPTjJmoUTaV=vvnpahwhQghZsfvr4SODVx8TbOjuzpYg2UWdJw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 6:57 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 10:08 PM, Mark Dickinson <dickinsm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Due to some recent server changes at Enthought, the link to EPD on the
>>> 'Download Python' page (http://www.python.org/download/) is now
>>> broken. ?It's currently pointing to
>>>
>>> ? http://enthought.com/products/epd.php
>>>
>>> It should be pointing to
>>>
>>> ? http://www.enthought.com/products/epd.php
>>
>> .php ?!?
>
> Hey, not everyone has enlightened web hosting :) And even those of us
> who do are not always able to do everything we want to. My current
> hosting box handles a number of sites including several that I don't
> control, so I can't strip out Apache and replace it with Pike and
> WarmPotato, but once WP gets mature enough, I'll move Apache and
> bounce everything through... until then, I'm not eating my own
> dogfood, and parts of my site are still run on PHP.
>
> No need to boggle :)

WarmPotato? I could only find reference to a salad. Speaking about PHP
in the context of www maybe the true reason to use is that Python
doesn't work with web out of the box and PHP does? =)

From rosuav at gmail.com  Mon Jun 18 23:47:29 2012
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 07:47:29 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xK5z0bCeWVvWwY8Ay2T+NwYO8tBrSj7oWMPHJ8V_TshTg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<CAPTjJmoUTaV=vvnpahwhQghZsfvr4SODVx8TbOjuzpYg2UWdJw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xK5z0bCeWVvWwY8Ay2T+NwYO8tBrSj7oWMPHJ8V_TshTg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:33 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> WarmPotato? I could only find reference to a salad. Speaking about PHP
> in the context of www maybe the true reason to use is that Python
> doesn't work with web out of the box and PHP does? =)

It's something I'm still writing:
https://github.com/Rosuav/WarmPotato

Python works "out of the box" just fine; when I made a simple
browser-based manager for my Looney Tunes collection (letting me
filter by, for instance, whether Bugs Bunny appears in them or whether
they're about opera), Python was the language of choice. Worked just
fine.

ChrisA

From techtonik at gmail.com  Tue Jun 19 08:07:02 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:07:02 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmpBB=sgN1oODHFyL+LxOZEpwFO=owX+Ur6+un_=GW8KGA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xLajOyeW1xdwUaChCHRMgqCB0KPhmWf20G_nbL71YOPVQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPTjJmoUTaV=vvnpahwhQghZsfvr4SODVx8TbOjuzpYg2UWdJw@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAPkN8xK5z0bCeWVvWwY8Ay2T+NwYO8tBrSj7oWMPHJ8V_TshTg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:33 AM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> WarmPotato? I could only find reference to a salad. Speaking about PHP
>> in the context of www maybe the true reason to use is that Python
>> doesn't work with web out of the box and PHP does? =)
>
> It's something I'm still writing:
> https://github.com/Rosuav/WarmPotato

An exercise in Pike? A first look at the language - C with automatic
memory management - I don't know why. =) Speaking about web server,
the main goal looks like an abillity to update site in transaction, to
continue serving old content while files on disk are updated, but..
that's impossible without file system manipulation if server doesn't
keep all files in memory.

> Python works "out of the box" just fine; when I made a simple
> browser-based manager for my Looney Tunes collection (letting me
> filter by, for instance, whether Bugs Bunny appears in them or whether
> they're about opera), Python was the language of choice. Worked just
> fine.

For me RoR and PHP are still the main answers when people ask about
rapid site set up.

From martin at v.loewis.de  Tue Jun 19 09:20:59 2012
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:20:59 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] ximinez turned off
Message-ID: <4FE0285B.2010508@v.loewis.de>

I have now turned off ximinez, and will return it to XS4ALL in a few
days. If you think you need to access the disk again, please speak up
now.

Regards,
Martin

From rosuav at gmail.com  Tue Jun 19 10:03:41 2012
From: rosuav at gmail.com (Chris Angelico)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 18:03:41 +1000
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAPkN8xKdBuQECEqTfx1xkob1izio9BpwF_cpYjjDi1a5_2PAog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAu3qLWHpOKx-shBhcXUB7uZyTNCWmGsMYY5saOvrZyb4OHRxw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:07 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
> An exercise in Pike? A first look at the language - C with automatic
> memory management - I don't know why. =) Speaking about web server,
> the main goal looks like an abillity to update site in transaction, to
> continue serving old content while files on disk are updated, but..
> that's impossible without file system manipulation if server doesn't
> keep all files in memory.

This probably belongs off this list, so feel free to pester me in
private email about this - it's one of my passions :)

My plan for WarmPotato is that it be for dynamic sites, where they
actually have very little code or flat files, and the bulk of the
content is stored in a database. It then becomes not only plausible
but extremely sensible to keep all code in memory; it would change
comparatively rarely (compared to the frequency of requests), and it
simplifies updates. There's also a standard site-class file that runs
directly off the file system, which would behave more like your
typical web server (relying on OS/FS caching).

I'm using the barest fraction of Pike's in-memory-reload power with
that. A more common usage pattern is an online game, where every
little piece can be separately reloaded from disk; I run one where the
client connection, account management, and location description files
are all separate, and separate again are (individual) executable
commands and frobbable objects. Any one can be reloaded without
disrupting everything else. That's something that Python has never
really aimed for - importing of modules is largely assumed to be a
"hey look I need this functionality" thing, not a "load this code from
disk and swap it in" thing. Not that that's bad, but hey, I do like my
uptime :D

ChrisA

From brian at python.org  Tue Jun 19 16:04:17 2012
From: brian at python.org (Brian Curtin)
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2012 09:04:17 -0500
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Broken link to 'Enthought Python Distribution'
In-Reply-To: <CAPTjJmpKnXK9S5X3WUmXBsXBuBqrQY0m1m=_2q+1DJpfsM7Yqg@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Chris Angelico <rosuav at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:07 PM, anatoly techtonik <techtonik at gmail.com> wrote:
>> An exercise in Pike? A first look at the language - C with automatic
>> memory management - I don't know why. =) Speaking about web server,
>> the main goal looks like an abillity to update site in transaction, to
>> continue serving old content while files on disk are updated, but..
>> that's impossible without file system manipulation if server doesn't
>> keep all files in memory.
>
> This probably belongs off this list

It does.

From techtonik at gmail.com  Sun Jun 24 09:58:52 2012
From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 10:58:52 +0300
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Moin wiki search is broken again
Message-ID: <CAPkN8x+mGgM8END14hu-82TL5YbE9hV+fxxv5XaChop4ZusroA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Search for virtualenv in titles doesn't bring up
TrackerDevelopmentVirtualEnv page, but full text seatch does.

http://wiki.python.org/moin/Virtualenv?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=virtualenv&titlesearch=Titles
--
anatoly t.

From martin at v.loewis.de  Sun Jun 24 11:43:39 2012
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:43:39 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki migrated
Message-ID: <4FE6E14B.1020503@v.loewis.de>

I have now moved wiki.python.org to osuosl; thanks to Noah for creating
the VM and to p at rick for adjusting mail.python.org.

If you find any breakage, please let us know.

Regards,
Martin

From martin at v.loewis.de  Thu Jun 28 09:13:54 2012
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:13:54 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] Buildbot master moved
Message-ID: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>

I have now moved the buildbot master to OSU/OSL, and upgraded the
buildbot version in the process. If there are any issues, let me
know or Antoine.

Slaves should (and apparently do) reconnect if they were changed
to use "buildbot.python.org" as the master. Some probably weren't;
we'll figure this out.

Regards,
Martin

From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 28 12:06:40 2012
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:06:40 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master moved
In-Reply-To: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
Message-ID: <1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 09:13 +0200, "Martin v. L?wis" a ?crit :
> I have now moved the buildbot master to OSU/OSL, and upgraded the
> buildbot version in the process. If there are any issues, let me
> know or Antoine.

It seems we lost the "force build" button. Judging from the templates,
the form is here, it just isn't displayed.

I also don't see any custom builders:
http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall?category=custom.stable&category=custom.unstable

Regards

Antoine.



From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 28 12:11:32 2012
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 12:11:32 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master moved
In-Reply-To: <1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 12:06 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a ?crit :
> Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 09:13 +0200, "Martin v. L?wis" a ?crit :
> > I have now moved the buildbot master to OSU/OSL, and upgraded the
> > buildbot version in the process. If there are any issues, let me
> > know or Antoine.
> 
> It seems we lost the "force build" button. Judging from the templates,
> the form is here, it just isn't displayed.
> 
> I also don't see any custom builders:
> http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall?category=custom.stable&category=custom.unstable

Ok, it seems we should migrate to the ForceScheduler API:
http://buildbot.net/buildbot/docs/0.8.6/manual/cfg-schedulers.html#forcescheduler-scheduler




From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 28 15:02:53 2012
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 15:02:53 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master moved
In-Reply-To: <1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 12:11 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a ?crit :
> Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 12:06 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a ?crit :
> > Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 09:13 +0200, "Martin v. L?wis" a ?crit :
> > > I have now moved the buildbot master to OSU/OSL, and upgraded the
> > > buildbot version in the process. If there are any issues, let me
> > > know or Antoine.
> > 
> > It seems we lost the "force build" button. Judging from the templates,
> > the form is here, it just isn't displayed.
> > 
> > I also don't see any custom builders:
> > http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall?category=custom.stable&category=custom.unstable

Ok, both are fixed.
Note: there are uncommitted changes in the local git repo, I left them
uncommitted.

Regards

Antoine.



From hs at ox.cx  Thu Jun 28 16:04:21 2012
From: hs at ox.cx (Hynek Schlawack)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:04:21 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Python-Dev] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master
	moved
In-Reply-To: <1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <4FEC6465.1000603@ox.cx>

Hi,

I don?t know if it?s known, but the bot infrastructure is FUBAR now.
http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall is a stacktrace and all tests
fail because of the XML-RPC tests that use our buildbot API.

Regards
Hynek

From rdmurray at bitdance.com  Thu Jun 28 17:11:04 2012
From: rdmurray at bitdance.com (R. David Murray)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:11:04 -0400
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Python-Dev] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master
	moved
In-Reply-To: <4FEC6465.1000603@ox.cx>
References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4FEC6465.1000603@ox.cx>
Message-ID: <20120628151104.E323E250676@webabinitio.net>

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 16:04:21 +0200, Hynek Schlawack <hs at ox.cx> wrote:
> I don???t know if it???s known, but the bot infrastructure is FUBAR now.
> http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall is a stacktrace and all tests
> fail because of the XML-RPC tests that use our buildbot API.

Heh, that's somewhat amusing.  Last upgrade, /console made a traceback
and /waterfall worked fine, this upgrade it is the reverse.

--David

From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 28 18:09:51 2012
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:09:51 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Python-Dev] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master
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Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 16:04 +0200, Hynek Schlawack a ?crit :
> Hi,
> 
> I don?t know if it?s known, but the bot infrastructure is FUBAR now.
> http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall is a stacktrace and all tests
> fail because of the XML-RPC tests that use our buildbot API.

It works if you reload the page, though. Looks like a weird bug in
buildbot, has anyone reported it upstream?

Regards

Antoine.



From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 28 18:31:29 2012
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 18:31:29 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Infrastructure] [Python-Dev] Buildbot master
	moved
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References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4FEC6465.1000603@ox.cx>
	<1340899791.3379.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1340901089.3379.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 18:09 +0200, Antoine Pitrou a ?crit :
> Le jeudi 28 juin 2012 ? 16:04 +0200, Hynek Schlawack a ?crit :
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I don?t know if it?s known, but the bot infrastructure is FUBAR now.
> > http://buildbot.python.org/all/waterfall is a stacktrace and all tests
> > fail because of the XML-RPC tests that use our buildbot API.
> 
> It works if you reload the page, though. Looks like a weird bug in
> buildbot, has anyone reported it upstream?

Ok, apparently it's http://trac.buildbot.net/ticket/2301 and it seems to
have been fixed upstream.

Now someone needs to incorporate these changes into our local git. I'm a
git newbie, and basic commands seem to fail for me:

$ git fetch -v
Permission denied (publickey).
fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly

Hynek, do you want to help?

Regards

Antoine.



From hs at ox.cx  Thu Jun 28 19:08:44 2012
From: hs at ox.cx (Hynek Schlawack)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:08:44 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Python-Dev] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master
	moved
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References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4FEC6465.1000603@ox.cx>
	<1340899791.3379.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340901089.3379.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <C93EA5F8-B2B6-4F98-81C2-B433BC55A3F7@ox.cx>

> Now someone needs to incorporate these changes into our local git. I'm a
> git newbie, and basic commands seem to fail for me:
> 
> $ git fetch -v
> Permission denied (publickey).
> fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
> 
> Hynek, do you want to help?

I'd love to, but I'm afk for the rest of the (CEST) day. :( If it's broken still broken tomorrow, you know where to find me. :)

Cheers,
Hynek

From martin at v.loewis.de  Thu Jun 28 19:28:02 2012
From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:28:02 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Python-Dev] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master
	moved
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References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4FEC6465.1000603@ox.cx>
Message-ID: <4FEC9422.4000508@v.loewis.de>

> I don?t know if it?s known, but the bot infrastructure is FUBAR now.

I'm quite certain it can be repaired.

Regards,
Martin

From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 28 19:30:12 2012
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:30:12 +0200
Subject: [pydotorg-www] [Python-Dev] [Infrastructure] Buildbot master
	moved
References: <4FEC0432.3040507@v.loewis.de>
	<1340878000.3396.4.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340878292.3396.5.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<1340888573.3396.6.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<4FEC6465.1000603@ox.cx>
	<1340899791.3379.3.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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	<C93EA5F8-B2B6-4F98-81C2-B433BC55A3F7@ox.cx>
Message-ID: <20120628193012.0218c957@pitrou.net>

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:08:44 +0200
Hynek Schlawack <hs at ox.cx> wrote:
> > Now someone needs to incorporate these changes into our local git. I'm a
> > git newbie, and basic commands seem to fail for me:
> > 
> > $ git fetch -v
> > Permission denied (publickey).
> > fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
> > 
> > Hynek, do you want to help?
> 
> I'd love to, but I'm afk for the rest of the (CEST) day. :( If it's broken still broken tomorrow, you know where to find me. :)

Ok, I've applied the patches by hand in the local repo, without
committing them. It seems to fix the issue AFAICT.

Regards

Antoine.