From patcam at python.org Tue May 3 20:33:11 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 14:33:11 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Minutes of the PSF Members Meeting at EuroPython 2010 in Birmingham Message-ID: Hi Pydotorg: Could you please post ?The Python Software Foundation Minutes of the 2010 Members? Meeting July 19, 2010? online at http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/ . The Members Meeting was held at the 2010 EuroPython Conference in Birmingham, UK. If you have any questions, please let me know. Thanks, Pat -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- Title: July 2010 PSF Members' Meeting Minutes (draft) Encoding: utf-8 Author: psf at python.org Content-type: text/x-rst .. class:: minutes-title | The Python Software Foundation | Minutes of the July 2010 Members' Meeting | | July 19, 2010 The Python Software Foundation (the "PSF") held a semi-annual members' meeting on July 19, 2010 19:00 CEST at EuroPython, Birmingham, UK. Steve Holden presided over the meeting. Marc-Andr? Lemburg and Pat Campbell prepared these minutes. .. sectnum:: .. contents:: Attendance ========== 29 nominated members were present at the meeting: * Steven Bethard * Paul Boddie * Georg Brandl * Brett Cannon * Dr.Tim Couper * Laura Creighton * Mark Dickinson * Michael Foord * Amaury Forgeot d'Arc * Zeth Green * Tim Golden * Jacob Hall?n * Raymond Hettinger * Steve Holden * Richard Jones * Holger Krekel * Marc-Andr? Lemburg * Martin von L?wis * Harald Armin Massa * John Pinner * Armin Rigo * Guido van Rossum * Christian Scholz * Michael Sparks * Phil Thompson * Dino Viehland * Thomas Waldmann * Alex Willmer * Quentin Wright 1 representative of sponsor members were present: * Strakt Holdings, represented by Laura Creighton 8 Non-members were present: * Floris Bruynooghe * Rob Collins * Clive Darke * Mark Fink * Thomas Heschenr?der * Valentin Janiaot * Joe Metcalfe * Lennart Regebro Greetings & Roll Call ===================== On July 19, 2010 the EuroPython Conference held its first PSF members' meeting outside of the US in Birmingham, UK where Steve Holden, PSF member and chairman of the board called the PSF Members' Meeting to order. PSF members (nominated and sponsor) and non-membered guest were greeted and welcomed. After the greeting, members and guests participated in the members' meeting roll call by stating their names for the meeting attendance records. Reports ======== There were no board or treasurer's report for this members' meeting. New Business ============= New business discussions during the members' meeting revolved around the following subject matter: * Interest in having regular PSF member meetings at EuroPython There was definitively interest in having PSF member meetings at EuroPython, so we will try to have regular meetings in the future. * Increasing awareness for the PSF in Europe This was briefly discussed. I mentioned the project for creation of Python marketing material, a project that is still in the preparation phase. * Discuss setting up a European PSF branch Several aspects of such a move were discussed, but since the whole project is rather complex, we will follow up on the ideas in a special interest group. * Discuss promotion of the new Honorary Associate Memberships The current state of the new membership form was discussed. The legal state has been setup by the board, the marketing texts have been prepared by Pat Campbell. Next to follow are: getting the payment system ready and then putting the marketing information up on the website. * Discuss setting up a PSF partner network This idea was regarded as better short-term alternative to the European PSF branch. The board will prepare a set of requirements a partner organization would have to fulfill and then invite organizations to the network. * Gathering networking information from the meeting attendees This was not discussed. We'll likely setup a wiki page for that information. Community Service Award - 2010-Q2 ================================= John Pinner was selected as the 2010 - 2nd quarter PSF Community Service Award winner. The award was announced and presented by S. Holden at the EuroPython Conference. Frank Willison Award - 2010 =========================== Christian Tismer was proposed by the Board and selected by O'Reilly as winner of the Frank Willison Award 2010. The award was announced and presented by S. Holden at the EuroPython Conference. Email Voting ============= The July 2010 members' election took place after the members' meeting held at the EuroPython Conference. Votes were cast electronically via email during the voting period which began on 2010-08-10 and ended on 2010-08-23. Election Results ---------------- Election of Nominated Members ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The individual nominations and summaries/recommendations were made on the psf-members mailing list and recorded in the PSF private wiki. All proposed nominated members were elected (vote counts in parentheses, yes-no-abstain): * Noah Gift (49-6-24) * Laurens Van Houtven (44-2-33) * Terry Peppers (44-2-33) * Stephen Thorne (45-1-33) Election of Sponsor Members ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ One company applied for sponsor membership. The Board had already recommended the applicant as a pending sponsor member. The nominated sponsor member was elected (vote counts in parentheses, yes-no-abstain): * Exoweb Ltd. (62-0-17) Any Other Business =================== None. Adjournment =========== Steve Holden thanked everyone for attending and adjourned the informal members' meeting at approximately 20:30 (CEST), local time. From doug.hellmann at gmail.com Thu May 5 15:00:38 2011 From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 09:00:38 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Minutes of the PSF Members Meeting at EuroPython 2010 in Birmingham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Done. On May 3, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > Hi Pydotorg: > > Could you please post ?The Python Software Foundation Minutes of the 2010 Members? Meeting July 19, 2010? > > online at http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/ . > > The Members Meeting was held at the 2010 EuroPython Conference in Birmingham, UK. > > If you have any questions, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Pat > > -- > Pat Campbell > PSF Administrator/Secretary > patcam at python.org > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 5 19:02:51 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 13:02:51 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Minutes of the PSF Members Meeting at EuroPython 2010 in Birmingham In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks Doug -- looks great! Pat On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Done. > > On May 3, 2011, at 2:33 PM, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Hi Pydotorg: > > Could you please post ?The Python Software Foundation Minutes of the 2010 > Members? Meeting July 19, 2010? > > online at http://www.python.org/psf/records/members/ . > > The Members Meeting was held at the 2010 EuroPython Conference in > Birmingham, UK. > > If you have any questions, please let me know. > > Thanks, > Pat > > -- > Pat Campbell > PSF Administrator/Secretary > patcam at python.org > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug.hellmann at gmail.com Fri May 6 03:48:40 2011 From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 21:48:40 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs Message-ID: We have several more translations for Python Insider coming online soon. To make them fit in with the rest of the blogs, we need CNAME entries in DNS pointing these names to "ghs.google.com": blog-cn.python.org blog-ro.python.org blog-de.python.org blog-tw.python.org There will be another batch soon, and possibly more later in the summer. I would be happy to make the changes myself, if someone would point me in the right direction. Doug From steve at holdenweb.com Fri May 6 04:02:15 2011 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Thu, 5 May 2011 22:02:15 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: [decloaks] So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present regards Steve [recloaks] On May 5, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We have several more translations for Python Insider coming online soon. To make them fit in with the rest of the blogs, we need CNAME entries in DNS pointing these names to "ghs.google.com": > > blog-cn.python.org > blog-ro.python.org > blog-de.python.org > blog-tw.python.org > > There will be another batch soon, and possibly more later in the summer. I would be happy to make the changes myself, if someone would point me in the right direction. > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From martin at v.loewis.de Fri May 6 08:42:06 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Martin_v=2E_L=F6wis=22?=) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 08:42:06 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> > So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need > our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try > and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff > that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking > stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. DNS management requires fairly deep technical know-how, so I'd rather hand it over to somebody with a strong admin background. I once proposed that tummy.com would should get hired to admin python.org; unfortunately, this was shot down by the PSF board. Regards, Martin From techtonik at gmail.com Fri May 6 09:09:28 2011 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:09:28 +0300 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present > > ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in > particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. Make it an electronic form. > DNS management requires fairly deep technical know-how, so I'd rather > hand it over to somebody with a strong admin background. I once proposed > that tummy.com would should get hired to admin python.org; > unfortunately, this was shot down by the PSF board. Adding A records and domain aliases requires one page documentation how to. There is another concern though - users with DNS keys should have a strong security background. -- anatoly t. From g.brandl at gmx.net Fri May 6 09:47:06 2011 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 09:47:06 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> Message-ID: <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> On 06.05.2011 09:09, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >>> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >>> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >>> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >>> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present >> >> ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in >> particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. > > Make it an electronic form. Sigh - in the time he needs to "make" and verify the electronic form, Martin can probably add 50-100 new A records himself. But of course, that's easy to ignore for you. Georg From patcam at python.org Fri May 6 16:04:57 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 10:04:57 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Doug: Arc Riley has been the master mind behind the recent efforts to centralize the DNS for better management. I have been learning DNS management through him. Thanks, Pat On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We have several more translations for Python Insider coming online soon. To > make them fit in with the rest of the blogs, we need CNAME entries in DNS > pointing these names to "ghs.google.com": > > blog-cn.python.org > blog-ro.python.org > blog-de.python.org > blog-tw.python.org > > There will be another batch soon, and possibly more later in the summer. I > would be happy to make the changes myself, if someone would point me in the > right direction. > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From techtonik at gmail.com Fri May 6 16:12:31 2011 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:12:31 +0300 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 06.05.2011 09:09, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>>> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >>>> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >>>> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >>>> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >>>> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present >>> >>> ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in >>> particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. >> >> Make it an electronic form. > > Sigh - in the time he needs to "make" and verify the electronic form, > Martin can probably add 50-100 new A records himself. I can create the form if you don't mind using Google Spreadsheets. -- anatoly t. From g.brandl at gmx.net Fri May 6 19:32:48 2011 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 19:32:48 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> On 06.05.2011 16:12, anatoly techtonik wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: >> On 06.05.2011 09:09, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>>>> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >>>>> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >>>>> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >>>>> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >>>>> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present >>>> >>>> ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in >>>> particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. >>> >>> Make it an electronic form. >> >> Sigh - in the time he needs to "make" and verify the electronic form, >> Martin can probably add 50-100 new A records himself. > > I can create the form if you don't mind using Google Spreadsheets. And what good does a Google spreadsheet do here, exactly? Georg From doug.hellmann at gmail.com Fri May 6 20:33:46 2011 From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 14:33:46 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <748A9ED0-3CFB-4751-82EC-495AFDEB767C@gmail.com> On May 6, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Pat Campbell wrote: > Hi Doug: > > Arc Riley has been the master mind behind the recent efforts to centralize the DNS for better management. I have been learning DNS management through him. Thanks, Pat. Martin and I are working on exchanging encryption keys so we can share the necessary information. Doug > > Thanks, > Pat > > On Thu, May 5, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > We have several more translations for Python Insider coming online soon. To make them fit in with the rest of the blogs, we need CNAME entries in DNS pointing these names to "ghs.google.com": > > blog-cn.python.org > blog-ro.python.org > blog-de.python.org > blog-tw.python.org > > There will be another batch soon, and possibly more later in the summer. I would be happy to make the changes myself, if someone would point me in the right direction. > > Doug > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > > > > -- > Pat Campbell > PSF Administrator/Secretary > patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mfoord at python.org Fri May 6 22:58:52 2011 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 21:58:52 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4DC4610C.2060809@python.org> On 06/05/2011 18:32, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 06.05.2011 16:12, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: >>> On 06.05.2011 09:09, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>>>>> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >>>>>> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >>>>>> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >>>>>> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >>>>>> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present >>>>> ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in >>>>> particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. >>>> Make it an electronic form. >>> Sigh - in the time he needs to "make" and verify the electronic form, >>> Martin can probably add 50-100 new A records himself. >> I can create the form if you don't mind using Google Spreadsheets. > And what good does a Google spreadsheet do here, exactly? You can set up forms that are automatically emailed on completion. Michael > Georg > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From g.brandl at gmx.net Fri May 6 23:14:29 2011 From: g.brandl at gmx.net (Georg Brandl) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 23:14:29 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: <4DC4610C.2060809@python.org> References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> <4DC4610C.2060809@python.org> Message-ID: <4DC464B5.7010105@gmx.net> On 06.05.2011 22:58, Michael Foord wrote: > On 06/05/2011 18:32, Georg Brandl wrote: >> On 06.05.2011 16:12, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: >>>> On 06.05.2011 09:09, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>>>>>> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >>>>>>> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >>>>>>> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >>>>>>> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >>>>>>> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present >>>>>> ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in >>>>>> particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. >>>>> Make it an electronic form. >>>> Sigh - in the time he needs to "make" and verify the electronic form, >>>> Martin can probably add 50-100 new A records himself. >>> I can create the form if you don't mind using Google Spreadsheets. >> And what good does a Google spreadsheet do here, exactly? > > You can set up forms that are automatically emailed on completion. And then? We just redirect the email to the magical email2zonefile gateway? Georg From mfoord at python.org Fri May 6 23:19:58 2011 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 22:19:58 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: <4DC464B5.7010105@gmx.net> References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> <4DC4610C.2060809@python.org> <4DC464B5.7010105@gmx.net> Message-ID: <4DC465FE.6080602@python.org> On 06/05/2011 22:14, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 06.05.2011 22:58, Michael Foord wrote: >> On 06/05/2011 18:32, Georg Brandl wrote: >>> On 06.05.2011 16:12, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: >>>>> On 06.05.2011 09:09, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>>>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>>>>>>> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >>>>>>>> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >>>>>>>> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >>>>>>>> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >>>>>>>> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present >>>>>>> ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in >>>>>>> particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. >>>>>> Make it an electronic form. >>>>> Sigh - in the time he needs to "make" and verify the electronic form, >>>>> Martin can probably add 50-100 new A records himself. >>>> I can create the form if you don't mind using Google Spreadsheets. >>> And what good does a Google spreadsheet do here, exactly? >> You can set up forms that are automatically emailed on completion. > And then? We just redirect the email to the magical email2zonefile gateway? > I think that was meant as a solution to the contributor form problem... Michael > Georg > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From martin at v.loewis.de Fri May 6 23:34:24 2011 From: martin at v.loewis.de (=?UTF-8?B?Ik1hcnRpbiB2LiBMw7Z3aXMi?=) Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 23:34:24 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: <4DC465FE.6080602@python.org> References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> <4DC4610C.2060809@python.org> <4DC464B5.7010105@gmx.net> <4DC465FE.6080602@python.org> Message-ID: <4DC46960.4030705@v.loewis.de> > I think that was meant as a solution to the contributor form problem... Unfortunately, as that, it is nearly as useless as a form to edit the DNS (which *is* a webform already, namely XS4ALL's). The Google form that anatoly proposed apparently resulted from an utter misunderstanding what the *actual* problem is. Pat is in the process of entering the forms into a bug tracker. Having a Google form in the process wouldn't reduce this effort to the slightest. Adding a form into the bug tracker would be much more reasonable, but it still wouldn't help with the existing forms. Regards, Martin From techtonik at gmail.com Sat May 7 09:54:51 2011 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 10:54:51 +0300 Subject: [pydotorg-www] DNS additions for translation blogs In-Reply-To: <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> References: <4DC3983E.6020201@v.loewis.de> <4DC3A77A.6000407@gmx.net> <4DC430C0.5010305@gmx.net> Message-ID: On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Georg Brandl wrote: > On 06.05.2011 16:12, anatoly techtonik wrote: >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Georg Brandl wrote: >>> On 06.05.2011 09:09, anatoly techtonik wrote: >>>> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, "Martin v. L?wis" wrote: >>>>>> So how long is it going to be before we wake up to the fact that we need >>>>>> our own DNS management regime? The PSF retains an administrator to try >>>>>> and avoid people with brains the size of planets worrying about stuff >>>>>> that a Masters in Business Administration can handle without breaking >>>>>> stride. Right, Pat? How are efforts coming along at present >>>>> >>>>> ISTM that Pat is busy with other tasks still (contrib agreements in >>>>> particular), which are much bigger tasks, in terms of time consumed. >>>> >>>> Make it an electronic form. >>> >>> Sigh - in the time he needs to "make" and verify the electronic form, >>> Martin can probably add 50-100 new A records himself. >> >> I can create the form if you don't mind using Google Spreadsheets. > > And what good does a Google spreadsheet do here, exactly? You can create form from the Google spreadsheets interface and when people add items to the form, a new row is added to the spreadsheet automatically. This is how http://code.google.com/legal/individual-cla-v1.0.html works. It is possible to automate it further, like extracting the list of names for tracker etc. -- anatoly t. From skip at pobox.com Sat May 7 14:28:47 2011 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 07:28:47 -0500 Subject: [pydotorg-www] broken link (fwd) Message-ID: <19909.15103.193675.961446@montanaro.dyndns.org> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Eduardo Schettino Subject: broken link Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 18:58:35 +0800 Size: 5385 URL: -------------- next part -------------- I found a copy in the Wayback Machine: http://replay.web.archive.org/20090228150936/http://www.python.org/community/lists/clpya-guidelines.txt It dates from 1998 and was originally meant for posts to the comp.lang.python and comp.lang.python.announce newsgroups. It probably needs a bit of work to be brought up-to-date for the current announce list, but still has some useful bits. Skip From skip at montanaro.dyndns.org Sat May 7 20:45:16 2011 From: skip at montanaro.dyndns.org (Skip Montanaro) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 13:45:16 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spam on Jython wiki Message-ID: <20110507184517.181EA127A881@montanaro.dyndns.org> The Jython wiki continues to get spammed, whereas the Python wiki seems not to, certainly not anything like happens to the Jython wiki. Is there some setup difference between the two that we've not accounted for? I recall that Martin added a feature to the Roundup instance a couple years ago which prevented new users from posting for a short amount of time (just a couple minutes as I recall). Could we easily apply a similar check to our MoinMoin instances? Skip From sheep at sheep.art.pl Sat May 7 21:15:56 2011 From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski) Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 21:15:56 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Spam on Jython wiki In-Reply-To: <20110507184517.181EA127A881@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <20110507184517.181EA127A881@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: I looked at all the spammy edits, and they are mostly coming from a handful of IP addresses from Philippines. I blocked them in the apache's config now. I will also change the questions, lets hope that it will help for longer this time. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > The Jython wiki continues to get spammed, whereas the Python wiki seems not > to, certainly not anything like happens to the Jython wiki. ?Is there some > setup difference between the two that we've not accounted for? > > I recall that Martin added a feature to the Roundup instance a couple years > ago which prevented new users from posting for a short amount of time (just > a couple minutes as I recall). ?Could we easily apply a similar check to our > MoinMoin instances? > > Skip > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www > -- Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl From michael at python.org Tue May 10 23:25:35 2011 From: michael at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 23:25:35 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Fwd: Voting for "wadofstuff-django-serializers" on python.org causes a 500 Message-ID: <4DC9AD4F.6060707@python.org> Hey all, I get the same problem as the reporter (see below) when I try to use the py3k poll from the python.org homepage. All the best, Michael Foord -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Voting for "wadofstuff-django-serializers" on python.org causes a 500 Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 15:04:42 +0200 From: Roel Kramer To: webmaster at python.org Hello, today I decided to vote for a few packages which should be converted to python 3. When i wanted to vote for the "wadofstuff-django-serializers" package, I got a 500 error. I'm using firefox 4, but I guess the client side should not cause the problem. I hope you can solve the problem. regards, Roel Kramer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 12 16:35:24 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:35:24 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Correction needed on Board Resolution & Board Minutes for January 2011 Message-ID: Hi pydotorg team: Could you please make a change on the following board resolution dated 24 January 2011 on this web page http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/ : *Please change from: * **RESOLVED**, that C Conservancy in recognition of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to supporting them in the future. Approved 9-2-2 by IRC vote, 24 January 2011. *Please change to:* ** *RESOLVED, that the PSF make a grant of $10,000 to the PyPy * *project via the Software Freedom Copnservancy in recognition * *of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy * *Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support * *and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the * *2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication * *the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to * *supporting them in the future.* *Approved 9-2-2 by IRC vote, 24 January 2011.* ** The above board resolution should also be changed in the board meeting minutes here: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-01-24/ *Please change section 6, 10,000 Grant Awarded to the PyPy Project, on the January * *2011 minutes from:* A motion was passed granting an award of $10,000 to the PyPy project to be announced at PyCon 2011. *RESOLVED*, RESOLVED, that C Conservancy in recognition of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to supporting them in the future. Aproved, 9-2-2. *Please change section 6, 10,000 Grant Awarded to the PyPy Project, on the January * *2011 minutes to:* A motion was passed granting an award of $10,000 to the PyPy project to be announced at PyCon 2011. ** RESOLVED, that the PSF make a grant of $10,000 to the PyPy project via the Software Freedom Copnservancy in recognition of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to supporting them in the future. Approved, 9-2-2. Thanks, Pat PS. If you have any questions, please let me know. * * [deleted] -- Pat Campbell PSF Administrator/Secretary patcam at python.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mat at kivy.org Fri May 13 19:35:48 2011 From: mat at kivy.org (Mathieu Virbel) Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 19:35:48 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add "Txzone" feed to planet Message-ID: Hi folks, Could someone add http://txzone.net/category/python/feed to the Python Planet feed list ? I'm following python planet for more than 2 years ago now, and i was wondering if i can join the party :) I want to blog more about usage of Python for NUI application, and usage of GL/Cython too. Thanks, Mathieu From techtonik at gmail.com Mon May 16 06:54:00 2011 From: techtonik at gmail.com (anatoly techtonik) Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 07:54:00 +0300 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Wiki bookmarks do not persist In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It still happens - bookmarks are not saved on Python wiki. -- anatoly t. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:10 AM, anatoly techtonik wrote: > Every week or so my RecentChanges bookmark is set to something like > 2010-09-30. I noticed this last week and set it to be 2011-01-05. Now > I see it is reset again. What is going on? > -- > anatoly t. > From mfoord at python.org Tue May 17 23:34:04 2011 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 22:34:04 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Add "Txzone" feed to planet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DD2E9CC.1010109@python.org> Hello Mathieu, I have added your feed to the Planet, it will show up shortly. All the best, Michael Foord On 13/05/2011 18:35, Mathieu Virbel wrote: > Hi folks, > > Could someone add http://txzone.net/category/python/feed to the Python > Planet feed list ? > > I'm following python planet for more than 2 years ago now, and i was > wondering if i can join the party :) I want to blog more about usage > of Python for NUI application, and usage of GL/Cython too. > > Thanks, > > Mathieu > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From doug.hellmann at gmail.com Thu May 19 14:27:22 2011 From: doug.hellmann at gmail.com (Doug Hellmann) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 08:27:22 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Correction needed on Board Resolution & Board Minutes for January 2011 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <403B56CC-DFC4-4B28-A9C0-433E12A830C6@gmail.com> Done On May 12, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Pat Campbell wrote: > Hi pydotorg team: > > Could you please make a change on the following board resolution > dated 24 January 2011 on this web page http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/ : > > Please change from: > > **RESOLVED**, that C Conservancy in recognition of the past > and current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, > including JIT and C extension support and in moving their Python > implementation forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes > the hard work and dedication the PyPy team has continually exhibited, > and looks forward to supporting them in the future. > > Approved 9-2-2 by IRC vote, 24 January 2011. > > Please change to: > > RESOLVED, that the PSF make a grant of $10,000 to the PyPy > project via the Software Freedom Copnservancy in recognition > of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy > Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support > and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the > 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication > the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to > supporting them in the future. > > Approved 9-2-2 by IRC vote, 24 January 2011. > > The above board resolution should also be changed in the board > meeting minutes here: http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-01-24/ > > Please change section 6, 10,000 Grant Awarded to the PyPy Project, on the January > 2011 minutes from: > > A motion was passed granting an award of $10,000 to the PyPy project to be announced at PyCon 2011. > RESOLVED, RESOLVED, that C Conservancy in recognition of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to supporting them in the future. > Aproved, 9-2-2. > > Please change section 6, 10,000 Grant Awarded to the PyPy Project, on the January > 2011 minutes to: > > A motion was passed granting an award of $10,000 to the PyPy project to be announced at PyCon 2011. > > RESOLVED, that the PSF make a grant of $10,000 to the PyPy project via the Software Freedom Copnservancy in recognition > of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support > and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication > the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to supporting them in the future. > > Approved, 9-2-2. > > Thanks, > Pat > > PS. If you have any questions, please let me know. > > [deleted] > -- > Pat Campbell > PSF Administrator/Secretary > patcam at python.org > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patcam at python.org Thu May 19 18:20:29 2011 From: patcam at python.org (Pat Campbell) Date: Thu, 19 May 2011 12:20:29 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Correction needed on Board Resolution & Board Minutes for January 2011 In-Reply-To: <403B56CC-DFC4-4B28-A9C0-433E12A830C6@gmail.com> References: <403B56CC-DFC4-4B28-A9C0-433E12A830C6@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Doug -- it looks good! Pat On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > Done > > On May 12, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Pat Campbell wrote: > > Hi pydotorg team: > > Could you please make a change on the following board resolution > dated 24 January 2011 on this web page > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/resolutions/ : > > *Please change from: * > > **RESOLVED**, that C Conservancy in recognition of the past > and current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, > including JIT and C extension support and in moving their Python > implementation forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes > the hard work and dedication the PyPy team has continually exhibited, > and looks forward to supporting them in the future. > > > Approved 9-2-2 by IRC vote, 24 January 2011. > > *Please change to:* > ** > *RESOLVED, that the PSF make a grant of $10,000 to the PyPy * > *project via the Software Freedom Copnservancy in recognition * > *of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy * > *Python implementation, including JIT and C extension support * > *and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the * > *2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication * > *the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to * > *supporting them in the future.* > > *Approved 9-2-2 by IRC vote, 24 January 2011.* > ** > The above board resolution should also be changed in the board > meeting minutes here: > http://www.python.org/psf/records/board/minutes/2011-01-24/ > > > *Please change section 6, 10,000 Grant Awarded to the PyPy Project, on > the January * > *2011 minutes from:* > > > A motion was passed granting an award of $10,000 to the PyPy project to be > announced at PyCon 2011. > > *RESOLVED*, RESOLVED, that C Conservancy in recognition of the past and > current work they have done on their PyPy Python implementation, including > JIT and C extension support and in moving their Python implementation > forward towards the 2.7 standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and > dedication the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to > supporting them in the future. > > Aproved, 9-2-2. > *Please change section 6, 10,000 Grant Awarded to the PyPy Project, on > the January * > *2011 minutes to:* > > > A motion was passed granting an award of $10,000 to the PyPy project to be > announced at PyCon 2011. > ** > RESOLVED, that the PSF make a grant of $10,000 to the PyPy project via the > Software Freedom Copnservancy in recognition > of the past and current work they have done on their PyPy Python > implementation, including JIT and C extension support > and in moving their Python implementation forward towards the 2.7 > standard. The PSF recognizes the hard work and dedication > the PyPy team has continually exhibited, and looks forward to supporting > them in the future. > > Approved, 9-2-2. > > > Thanks, > Pat > > > PS. 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URL: From sandro.tosi at gmail.com Mon May 23 09:37:49 2011 From: sandro.tosi at gmail.com (Sandro Tosi) Date: Mon, 23 May 2011 09:37:49 +0200 Subject: [pydotorg-www] python help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Pablo, On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 06:13, pablo araya wrote: > Hi I'm tryin to create a game but I have a question in how to save > (saveasfile) the value of a global variable.. and then load the same value > with openfile. > Also for example you have a main label and a botton on the left.... so when > you click the left bottom the label will change or refresh to another label, > and when you return to the original label show or refresh to the original > one. This list is not the correct place to ask such questions. I suggest asking on a general-purpose python help mailing-list, like http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list . 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From: Raahul Seshadri Subject: Link In The About Page Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 09:35:21 +0530 Size: 6438 URL: From michael at voidspace.org.uk Tue May 31 12:09:12 2011 From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 11:09:12 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Carmanah and Python success stories Message-ID: <4DE4BE48.7080901@voidspace.org.uk> Hey folks, The "Carmanah Lights the Way with Python" link appears 13 times on the Python success stories page: http://www.python.org/about/success/ All the best, Michael -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html From michael at voidspace.org.uk Tue May 31 15:21:36 2011 From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 14:21:36 +0100 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Link In The About Page (fwd) In-Reply-To: <19934.13181.975807.285488@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <19934.13181.975807.285488@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <4DE4EB60.6070506@voidspace.org.uk> I've changed the link on the website about page to Tim Parkin's website as we have for the site template. All the best, Michael Foord On 26/05/2011 12:03, skip at pobox.com wrote: > FYI. > > Skip > > > > _______________________________________________ > pydotorg-www mailing list > pydotorg-www at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pydotorg-www -- http://www.voidspace.org.uk/ May you do good and not evil May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others May you share freely, never taking more than you give. -- the sqlite blessing http://www.sqlite.org/different.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sdeibel at wingware.com Tue May 31 16:06:14 2011 From: sdeibel at wingware.com (Stephan Deibel) Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 10:06:14 -0400 Subject: [pydotorg-www] Carmanah and Python success stories In-Reply-To: <4DE4BE48.7080901@voidspace.org.uk> References: <4DE4BE48.7080901@voidspace.org.uk> Message-ID: <4DE4F5D6.2020707@wingware.com> On 5/31/11 6:09 AM, Michael Foord wrote: > The "Carmanah Lights the Way with Python" link appears 13 times on the > Python success stories page: > > http://www.python.org/about/success/ > I think the categories on that page were designed to help people find stories relevant to their interests, and stories are listed under multiple categories relevant to them. I'm not sure I like this approach personally, but I think that is why it is appearing multiple times, as do most of the other stories. Stephan