[pydotorg-www] Repeated outages of python.org

[Michael Foord]

On 25/07/2011 10:10, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> Michael Foord wrote:
>> On 25/07/2011 09:56, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>>> Could one of the list admins please turn the list archive
>>> of the pydotorg-www list into a private one ?
>>>
>>> I don't think it's a good idea to let our setup information leak
>>> to the Internnet via search engines.
>> The *point* of pydotorg-www is that it is a public list. Private
>> information should be sent to pydotorg not pydotorg-www.
> I was only talking about the archives, not making it a private
> list altogether.
Sure, but losing public archives, and the ability to use search engines 
to search the archives is a big loss.

We don't make the archives of other public lists private because someone 
sent an email they shouldn't have done - in fact we generally refuse to 
even remove those emails from the archive.

The detail revealed in this email isn't critical, and I don't think we 
should lose public archives because of it.

All the best,

Michael

>
>> Michael
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Thomas Wouters wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 11:19, Thomas Wouters<thomas at python.org>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 06:37, Antoine Pitrou<solipsis at pitrou.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Georg Brandl<georg at ...>   writes:
>>>>>>> Do we have the resources to monitor it a little more carefully
>>>>>>> from now on until we found out what the cause is?  Could it be
>>>>>>> some kind of attack?
>>>>>> It looks like power-cycling privileges should be given to more people
>>>>>> (Georg for
>>>>>> example :-)), to avoid potentially long outages likes this.
>>>>>>
>>>>> The problem isn't really 'powercycle privileges', but 'sysadmins
>>>>> looking
>>>>> after the machines'  (the former should come with the latter.) I
>>>>> haven't
>>>>> been involved with the setup and maintenance of these machines, and I
>>>>> shouldn't be the only one who can powercycle them -- everyone with
>>>>> root on
>>>>> the machine really should be able to, and everyone on
>>>>> roto-rooters at wooz.org (the non-python.org list of admins) has received
>>>>> instructions at one point or another (actually,  multiple times now.)
>>>>>
>>>> Barry, it seems many people with root access on (at least) dinsdale
>>>> aren't
>>>> on roto-rooters. We should probably fix that, and make sure everyone is
>>>> added to ~psf/.ssh/authorized_keys on xs4all.nl so they can access the
>>>> remote console/powerswitch as well (unless they have a reason not to
>>>> want
>>>> that access, I guess.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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