[Pydotorg-redesign] Draft HTML for redesign proposal

[Guido van Rossum]

> Almost all my Python using friends are geeks too, proudly so. My old
> boss wasn't a geek but he kept complaining that his linux pc wouldn't
> show websites like his laptop did so we installed ttf windows fonts. I
> would imagine a lot of Python users would be geeks too, whether or not
> they'd like to be called that is a different matter :-) 
> 
> The survey I used, though flawed, does seem to be good enough to show
> general trends and does reflect the experience of myself and that of a
> few of my colleagues. Some environments have strict guidelines on
> platform setup (we weren't allowed to install new fonts at a dot com I
> worked for, explaining I was designing for a client who wouldn't like us
> to change there logo finally got round that one). 

Well that argument definitely won't fly for the casual visitors of
python.org whome we want to please (if I recall the "goals" discussion
on the marketing list correctly).

> >> >Are these Python stats or font availability stats?  Where did you
> get
> >> >them?
> >>
> >> These are stats for september 2003 from www.python.org/wwwstats
> >
> >I was afraid so.  That's 70% Windows *downloads*, not *users*.  Since
> >Python is pre-installed on *all* Linux distros (not just Red Hat :-),
> >Linux users don't have to download anythign in order to use Python.
> >(The same will be true for Mac OS X Panther, but that's not out yet.)
> 
> The stats I picked of the site weren't for downloads, they were for
> general browsing. I was presuming that this would be the best source of
> information about what the balance of browser/operating system support
> for the new site would be.

Yes, probably.  (Interesting that the stats match the 70% download
stats for Windows.)

> I'd love to know if there are any other stats
> available, actually that raises a question I was going to ask a while
> back. Can I get access to the raw 'combined' logs for the python server.
> I know they'd be huge but I've got some excellent data mining software
> that I could use to get some good information on usage.

I suggest you write to Thomas Wouters (thomas at xs4all.net).

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)