From gslindstrom at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 03:09:08 2009 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (gslindstrom at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:09:08 +0000 Subject: [PyAR2] Getting Ready for pyArkansas 2009 Message-ID: <00221532cd04c8b9b0046492009a@google.com> Hi Everybody, I"ll be heading to Chicago later this month (I'm grateful to work for Novasys Health) and will be able to speak with virtually all of the leaders of the Python community. With that in mind, what do you want see me work on for pyArkansas 2009? I really liked having classes last year; do we want to concentrate on more classes? Perhaps have 4 tracks and then time for talks/open space in the afternoon? If so, what classes? We have to have a "beginning Python" class, but what else? I know lots of people wanted a GIS class. What do you want to see? More talks? Open space? And here's a problem off the Euler web page. For what value of n (0 From paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 22:13:14 2009 From: paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com (paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:13:14 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Wishes for pyArkansas 2009 Message-ID: <4a89b8680903081413q5caa3fcwf98b4ad84e0beabd@mail.gmail.com> I would like to see a session on choosing an IDE. A skilled user of each IDE discussed should present the strengths and weaknesses of the tool. The skilled user should have used the IDE on a non-trivial (1000+ lines of code) project. Capabilities during debugging Integration with version control packages Using the tool with 3+ developers on the same project I see that Wingware was a 2008 sponsor. Would a session like this be a problem? Choosing a GUI framework is a similar opportunity. Skilled users of each package should provide a review of the framework capabilities. A fundamental session on database access should provide attendees a ground-up look at building a simple application from scratch. Perhaps an address book or calendar. While it would be nice to have a GUI interface, the emphasis needs to be focused on database operations. The package should be able to be reconfigured for any database interface the user has on their Python installation. Finally, a session on setuptools and cooking up eggs. The presentation should include the installation and at least two upgrades of a package. Limiting the package to a single .py file would keep the focus on installation and handling versions during upgrade. If we do not have presenters who can cover these, is it possible that we could import some? Is there any kind of niche could pyar establish for the conference that would be a drawing point for those outside of Arkansas? From srilyk at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 03:46:56 2009 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:46:56 -0500 Subject: [PyAR2] Wishes for pyArkansas 2009 In-Reply-To: <4a89b8680903081413q5caa3fcwf98b4ad84e0beabd@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a89b8680903081413q5caa3fcwf98b4ad84e0beabd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <333efb450903081946u133cd782m8ab6df6a31af2195@mail.gmail.com> Well, my #1 wish is more for timing. I have an annual conflict on the first weekend of October, so if we could move it forward or back one week that would be ideal. One thing I would really enjoy (at least I think so at the moment) is a presentation about hardware interfacing with python, such as interacting with keyboard, sound, video, etc. I think one idea for a drawing point could be some sort of collaborative group project that any/all comers are welcome to contribute to. I'm not sure what project we would want to work on or how we would decide. I'll throw out my ideas on how it would work and feel free to contribute/gainsay. I figure for this next time we may want to keep it simple so folks can just get an idea and feel for what's happening. So perhaps we could come up with some fairly simple project that has parts that all comers could contribute to, from the most basic where some beginners are able to simply write a function or two, up to the more advanced contributers who may write a few classes/modules (if they so desire). Then for the next year, un-con-goers will be able to submit some ideas for projects, and then the organizers can vote for the project they think is best suited (or perhaps open a poll for all con-goers). The neat thing about having a project is it will be easy to see what sort of talks we should have. If people are interested in building an email client, we can have talks revolving around sockets/SMTP/POP, etc. If people want to make a game, we can have talks on PyGame, pyglet, etc. Of course that would only be one track of talks. But I think it would be pretty cool (especially if we're thinking of a most of the day and then some type conference like I seem to recall discussing last year) to have a community project, ya know? Anyhoo, that's just a rough idea. Anyone like/dislike the idea? Have a better one? Let's get those creative juices flowing! :) -Wayne On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > I would like to see a session on choosing an IDE. ?A skilled user of > each IDE discussed should present the strengths and weaknesses of the > tool. ?The skilled user should have used the IDE on a non-trivial > (1000+ lines of code) project. > > ? ?Capabilities during debugging > ? ?Integration with version control packages > ? ?Using the tool with 3+ developers on the same project > > I see that Wingware was a 2008 sponsor. ?Would a session like this be a problem? > > Choosing a GUI framework is a similar opportunity. ?Skilled users of > each package should provide a review of the framework capabilities. > > A fundamental session on database access should provide attendees a > ground-up look at building a simple application from scratch. ?Perhaps > an address book or calendar. ?While it would be nice to have a GUI > interface, the emphasis needs to be focused on database operations. > The package should be able to be reconfigured for any database > interface the user has on their Python installation. > > Finally, a session on setuptools and cooking up eggs. ?The > presentation should include the installation and at least two upgrades > of a package. ?Limiting the package to a single .py file would keep > the focus on installation and handling versions during upgrade. > > If we do not have presenters who can cover these, is it possible that > we could import some? > > Is there any kind of niche could pyar establish for the conference > that would be a drawing point for those outside of Arkansas? > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn?t. - Primo Levi From paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com Mon Mar 9 04:43:51 2009 From: paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com (paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 21:43:51 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Wishes for pyArkansas 2009 In-Reply-To: <333efb450903081946u133cd782m8ab6df6a31af2195@mail.gmail.com> References: <4a89b8680903081413q5caa3fcwf98b4ad84e0beabd@mail.gmail.com> <333efb450903081946u133cd782m8ab6df6a31af2195@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4a89b8680903082043x3287a584i8e0a9dd5cc3a5620@mail.gmail.com> Greg mentioned that some people wanted GIS-related presentations. Given the number of transportation (trucking) companies in Arkansas, this might find an audience. Perhaps a sponsor company would be able to bring in one or more leaders from an existing open source, GIS, and Python project to present. The project might have some area of development that would make a good sprint material. Does Pyar have adequate chops to do a sprint? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=Python+GIS http://trac.mapnik.org/ http://www.pygps.org/ http://gislounge.com/python-and-gis-resources/ http://gispython.org/ From phi3d at yahoo.com Mon Mar 9 07:39:35 2009 From: phi3d at yahoo.com (Gordon Fisher) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 23:39:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [PyAR2] Wishes for pyArkansas 2009 Message-ID: <202266.63189.qm@web65507.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> With prep time, I might be able to do something on using Python as the scripting language for the Blender 3D program.? As I am unemployed right now, I don't know what my commitments will be by then. --- On Sun, 3/8/09, paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com wrote: From: paul.hermeneutic at gmail.com Subject: Re: [PyAR2] Wishes for pyArkansas 2009 To: "W W" Cc: pyar2 at python.org Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:43 PM Greg mentioned that some people wanted GIS-related presentations. Given the number of transportation (trucking) companies in Arkansas, this might find an audience.? Perhaps a sponsor company would be able to bring in one or more leaders from an existing open source, GIS, and Python project to present.? The project might have some area of development that would make a good sprint material.? Does Pyar have adequate chops to do a sprint? http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=Python+GIS http://trac.mapnik.org/ http://www.pygps.org/ http://gislounge.com/python-and-gis-resources/ http://gispython.org/ _______________________________________________ PyAR2 mailing list PyAR2 at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: