From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Wed Jan 9 20:54:10 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 13:54:10 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Let's Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, still digging thru the ole inbox after a week away over the holidays. Greg, I'll bite. Looks like Jan 12 definitely isnt going to happen, eh? Anyone else down for the 26th of Jan in Conway? I'll drive down, but I'd like a few more people to commit to meet. chad! ________________________________ From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg Lindstrom Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:36 PM To: pyar2 at python.org Subject: [PyAR2] Let's Meet I'd like for as many of us as possible to meet and discuss what we want this group to be/do. My push will be for a more traditional user group meeting with presentations, questions/answers and maybe even time for people to bring in their current projects for help with how to design/build them. Others have mentioned getting a group project to work on, which I think would be a great thing to do as well. I'm sure there are other ideas out there just waiting to be brought up. Keeping in mind that March is PyCon in Chicago (you really should consider going), I never got around to plotting the zip codes -- sorry -- but may I suggest we meet sometime in January in Conway? If there are a number of people up North (so to speak), perhaps we could schedule a meeting in February up in Fayetteville (I'd be happy to drive up to meet with you). The CARLUG group meets at the San Fransisco Bread Company in Conway, which would be a good place to talk. If we decide to meet up North, could someone suggest a place? Or, if more people in Little Rock want to meet, we could meet "down South" :-P If there's interest to meet in Conway, I'll propose the 12th or 26th (I'm out of town on the 19th). February I would be available in the 16th only (sorry, this is right in the middle of gymnastics season and my daughter is competing level 5 this year). For those of you wanting to do a project, what do you have in mind? I'd love to help out, but we're going to need someone to step up and lead on this. Happy New Year, everyone! --greg Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080109/f5cfdca0/attachment.htm From kwadroke at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 22:05:25 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 15:05:25 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Let's Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 9, 2008 1:54 PM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > > > Well, still digging thru the ole inbox after a week away over the holidays. > Greg, I'll bite. Looks like Jan 12 definitely isnt going to happen, eh? > Anyone else down for the 26th of Jan in Conway? I'll drive down, but I'd > like a few more people to commit to meet. > > > > chad! > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf > Of Greg Lindstrom > Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 4:36 PM > To: pyar2 at python.org > Subject: [PyAR2] Let's Meet > > > > > > I'd like for as many of us as possible to meet and discuss what we want this > group to be/do. My push will be for a more traditional user group meeting > with presentations, questions/answers and maybe even time for people to > bring in their current projects for help with how to design/build them. > Others have mentioned getting a group project to work on, which I think > would be a great thing to do as well. I'm sure there are other ideas out > there just waiting to be brought up. > > Keeping in mind that March is PyCon in Chicago (you really should consider > going), I never got around to plotting the zip codes -- sorry -- but may I > suggest we meet sometime in January in Conway? If there are a number of > people up North (so to speak), perhaps we could schedule a meeting in > February up in Fayetteville (I'd be happy to drive up to meet with you). > The CARLUG group meets at the San Fransisco Bread Company in Conway, which > would be a good place to talk. If we decide to meet up North, could someone > suggest a place? Or, if more people in Little Rock want to meet, we could > meet "down South" :-P > > If there's interest to meet in Conway, I'll propose the 12th or 26th (I'm > out of town on the 19th). February I would be available in the 16th only > (sorry, this is right in the middle of gymnastics season and my daughter is > competing level 5 this year). > > For those of you wanting to do a project, what do you have in mind? I'd > love to help out, but we're going to need someone to step up and lead on > this. > > Happy New Year, everyone! > > --greg > Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information > and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the > person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or > distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return > e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > The 26th works for me. -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Hot Springs Area Linux Users Group - hsalug.org Little Rock Linux Users Group - lrlug.org Central Arkansas Linux Users Group - carlug.org Arkansas Linux Users Group - arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com From srilyk at gmail.com Wed Jan 9 23:55:42 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 16:55:42 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Let's Meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <333efb450801091455k2ee43d05sbf992d2bfb5858f2@mail.gmail.com> You can put me down as a maybe - I don't have any current obligations that I know of... so we'll see! -wayen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080109/9ead4d1c/attachment.htm From gslindstrom at gmail.com Mon Jan 14 23:42:51 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 16:42:51 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? Message-ID: Hello Everyone- Some of us have discussed meeting up on Saturday, 1/26 in Conway but want to see if there is interest, first. This meeting would be more of a social nature; getting to know who's who in the group, where you are in your Python proficiency, and what you want out of the group. If you would be interested in coming, please respond to the list. We will meet at the San Fransisco Bread company in Conway Commons at, say, 11:00 (the time and place are subject to change). I am working a gymnastics meet from 7:30-9:30 AM and 6:45-9:45 PM; other than that, I'm free. If you get a chance, click on over to http://us.pycon.org/2008/about/ for information on PyCon 2008 (March 14-16 in Chicago), a gathering of over 600 Python enthusiasts with talks on all aspects of Python. There are tutorials on Thursday, March 13th for an extra fee. It's a volunteer run conference, so the costs are more than reasonable and it's a great way to learn more about the language (and meet just about everyone who's anyone in the community). I'll be going and one of the classes I will attend is how to run a user group :-). I hope some of you can go as well. Also, with the help of fellow PyAR^2 member Chad Files, I'm setting up a web site to sell Python polo shirts, caps, etc. Last year at PyCon my wife set up shop (she runs an embroidery business) and sold a lot of stuff. After working with the PSF for over a year, we have been asked to set up an e-commerce site to sell Python apparel world wide. The site will be " wearpython.com" and should be up in the next month or so. I'm new at web design, but Chad has assured me that if I use osCommerce I will have no trouble at all. We'll see. So, who else would like to meet up on the 26th? If there's not enough interest, we'll wait until after PyCon, but user groups are only as active as we make them and I'd like to get to work! --greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080114/5a59e328/attachment.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Tue Jan 15 15:17:26 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 08:17:26 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Count me in. I think 11 is good, at least for me. I have a 3 hr drive, so I wouldn't have to leave NWA too early and not get home too late. I agree with Greg in that our group can only be as active as we make it, so lets get together and get this show on the road! Python apparel - I can't wait! chad! ________________________________ From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg Lindstrom Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:43 PM To: pyar2 at python.org Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? Hello Everyone- Some of us have discussed meeting up on Saturday, 1/26 in Conway but want to see if there is interest, first. This meeting would be more of a social nature; getting to know who's who in the group, where you are in your Python proficiency, and what you want out of the group. If you would be interested in coming, please respond to the list. We will meet at the San Fransisco Bread company in Conway Commons at, say, 11:00 (the time and place are subject to change). I am working a gymnastics meet from 7:30-9:30 AM and 6:45-9:45 PM; other than that, I'm free. If you get a chance, click on over to http://us.pycon.org/2008/about/ for information on PyCon 2008 (March 14-16 in Chicago), a gathering of over 600 Python enthusiasts with talks on all aspects of Python. There are tutorials on Thursday, March 13th for an extra fee. It's a volunteer run conference, so the costs are more than reasonable and it's a great way to learn more about the language (and meet just about everyone who's anyone in the community). I'll be going and one of the classes I will attend is how to run a user group :-). I hope some of you can go as well. Also, with the help of fellow PyAR^2 member Chad Files, I'm setting up a web site to sell Python polo shirts, caps, etc. Last year at PyCon my wife set up shop (she runs an embroidery business) and sold a lot of stuff. After working with the PSF for over a year, we have been asked to set up an e-commerce site to sell Python apparel world wide. The site will be " wearpython.com " and should be up in the next month or so. I'm new at web design, but Chad has assured me that if I use osCommerce I will have no trouble at all. We'll see. So, who else would like to meet up on the 26th? If there's not enough interest, we'll wait until after PyCon, but user groups are only as active as we make them and I'd like to get to work! --greg Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/4fc535b6/attachment.htm From srilyk at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 16:21:52 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 09:21:52 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <333efb450801150721l2bfaf906l6b9df710d3fe3bec@mail.gmail.com> 11 on the 26th should work for me! -Wayne On Jan 15, 2008 8:17 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > Count me in. I think 11 is good, at least for me. I have a 3 hr drive, so > I wouldn't have to leave NWA too early and not get home too late. I agree > with Greg in that our group can only be as active as we make it, so lets get > together and get this show on the road! > > > > Python apparel ? I can't wait! > > > > chad! > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] *On > Behalf Of *Greg Lindstrom > *Sent:* Monday, January 14, 2008 4:43 PM > *To:* pyar2 at python.org > *Subject:* [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? > > > > Hello Everyone- > > Some of us have discussed meeting up on Saturday, 1/26 in Conway but want > to see if there is interest, first. This meeting would be more of a social > nature; getting to know who's who in the group, where you are in your Python > proficiency, and what you want out of the group. If you would be interested > in coming, please respond to the list. We will meet at the San Fransisco > Bread company in Conway Commons at, say, 11:00 (the time and place are > subject to change). I am working a gymnastics meet from 7:30-9:30 AM and > 6:45-9:45 PM; other than that, I'm free. > > If you get a chance, click on over to http://us.pycon.org/2008/about/ > for information on PyCon 2008 (March 14-16 in Chicago), a gathering of over > 600 Python enthusiasts with talks on all aspects of Python. There are > tutorials on Thursday, March 13th for an extra fee. It's a volunteer run > conference, so the costs are more than reasonable and it's a great way to > learn more about the language (and meet just about everyone who's anyone in > the community). I'll be going and one of the classes I will attend is how > to run a user group :-). I hope some of you can go as well. > > Also, with the help of fellow PyAR^2 member Chad Files, I'm setting up a > web site to sell Python polo shirts, caps, etc. Last year at PyCon my wife > set up shop (she runs an embroidery business) and sold a lot of stuff. > After working with the PSF for over a year, we have been asked to set up an > e-commerce site to sell Python apparel world wide. The site will be " > wearpython.com" and should be up in the next month or so. I'm new at web > design, but Chad has assured me that if I use osCommerce I will have no > trouble at all. We'll see. > > So, who else would like to meet up on the 26th? If there's not enough > interest, we'll wait until after PyCon, but user groups are only as active > as we make them and I'd like to get to work! > > --greg > > *Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/ca010bb6/attachment.htm From kwadroke at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 17:00:42 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 10:00:42 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? In-Reply-To: <333efb450801150721l2bfaf906l6b9df710d3fe3bec@mail.gmail.com> References: <333efb450801150721l2bfaf906l6b9df710d3fe3bec@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jan 15, 2008 9:21 AM, W W wrote: > 11 on the 26th should work for me! > -Wayne > > > > On Jan 15, 2008 8:17 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count me in. I think 11 is good, at least for me. I have a 3 hr drive, so > I wouldn't have to leave NWA too early and not get home too late. I agree > with Greg in that our group can only be as active as we make it, so lets get > together and get this show on the road! > > > > > > > > Python apparel ? I can't wait! > > > > > > > > chad! > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf > Of Greg Lindstrom > > Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 4:43 PM > > To: pyar2 at python.org > > Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone- > > > > Some of us have discussed meeting up on Saturday, 1/26 in Conway but want > to see if there is interest, first. This meeting would be more of a social > nature; getting to know who's who in the group, where you are in your Python > proficiency, and what you want out of the group. If you would be interested > in coming, please respond to the list. We will meet at the San Fransisco > Bread company in Conway Commons at, say, 11:00 (the time and place are > subject to change). I am working a gymnastics meet from 7:30-9:30 AM and > 6:45-9:45 PM; other than that, I'm free. > > > > If you get a chance, click on over to http://us.pycon.org/2008/about/ > for information on PyCon 2008 (March 14-16 in Chicago), a gathering of over > 600 Python enthusiasts with talks on all aspects of Python. There are > tutorials on Thursday, March 13th for an extra fee. It's a volunteer run > conference, so the costs are more than reasonable and it's a great way to > learn more about the language (and meet just about everyone who's anyone in > the community). I'll be going and one of the classes I will attend is how > to run a user group :-). I hope some of you can go as well. > > > > Also, with the help of fellow PyAR^2 member Chad Files, I'm setting up a > web site to sell Python polo shirts, caps, etc. Last year at PyCon my wife > set up shop (she runs an embroidery business) and sold a lot of stuff. > After working with the PSF for over a year, we have been asked to set up an > e-commerce site to sell Python apparel world wide. The site will be " > wearpython.com" and should be up in the next month or so. I'm new at web > design, but Chad has assured me that if I use osCommerce I will have no > trouble at all. We'll see. > > > > So, who else would like to meet up on the 26th? If there's not enough > interest, we'll wait until after PyCon, but user groups are only as active > as we make them and I'd like to get to work! > > > > --greg > > > > > > > > > > Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the > addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you > may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from > your system. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PyAR2 mailing list > > PyAR2 at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > > > > > > > -- > To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called > gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, > every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and > exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > Works for me. -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Hot Springs Area Linux Users Group - hsalug.org Little Rock Linux Users Group - lrlug.org Central Arkansas Linux Users Group - carlug.org Arkansas Linux Users Group - arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com From srilyk at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 20:40:14 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:40:14 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] C++ vs. Python as teaching tool Message-ID: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> So... I'm a student at UCA, taking my "Computer Science I" (read: coast class for anyone who's written a program). They use C++ as the CSCI I and II language. I've become an avid... oh I don't know what you call us python fans, but I've been one for quite a while now. But this just took the lesson home even further. Today for the in-class lesson -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/0fb1746d/attachment.htm From srilyk at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 20:50:20 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:50:20 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] C++ vs. Python as teaching tool In-Reply-To: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> References: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <333efb450801151150s49d9e924u2d065f8980d8f51a@mail.gmail.com> Okay so I'm not sure why it sent way before I was ready... I guess gmail thought it was funny or something. Anyhow, we didn't get to any programming, just flow-chart. The lab (2 hours) will be spent writing a program that took me about 5 minutes in python. 1 name = raw_input('Enter Employee Name:') 2 hours = int(raw_input('Enter Employee Hours Worked:')) 3 wage = float(raw_input('Enter Employee Wages:')) 4 print name, 'earned $' + str(wage*hours) Four lines. I don't even think I'll be able to write a program that does /nothing/ in c++ with four lines. MMmmm, python! On Jan 15, 2008 1:40 PM, W W wrote: > So... > I'm a student at UCA, taking my "Computer Science I" (read: coast class > for anyone who's written a program). > > They use C++ as the CSCI I and II language. I've become an avid... oh I > don't know what you call us python fans, but I've been one for quite a while > now. But this just took the lesson home even further. > > Today for the in-class lesson > > -- > To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being > called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every > weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement > and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/bc5a4ef9/attachment.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Tue Jan 15 21:02:57 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:02:57 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] C++ vs. Python as teaching tool In-Reply-To: <333efb450801151150s49d9e924u2d065f8980d8f51a@mail.gmail.com> References: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> <333efb450801151150s49d9e924u2d065f8980d8f51a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My favorite 4 lines of Python - sending email (in its rawest form) import smtplib server = smtplib.SMTP(email_server_ip) server.sendmail(from, to, msg) server.quit() It still amazes me that you can send emails with that little bit 'o code.... chad! ________________________________ From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of W W Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:50 PM To: pyar2 at python.org Subject: Re: [PyAR2] C++ vs. Python as teaching tool Okay so I'm not sure why it sent way before I was ready... I guess gmail thought it was funny or something. Anyhow, we didn't get to any programming, just flow-chart. The lab (2 hours) will be spent writing a program that took me about 5 minutes in python. 1 name = raw_input('Enter Employee Name:') 2 hours = int(raw_input('Enter Employee Hours Worked:')) 3 wage = float(raw_input('Enter Employee Wages:')) 4 print name, 'earned $' + str(wage*hours) Four lines. I don't even think I'll be able to write a program that does /nothing/ in c++ with four lines. MMmmm, python! On Jan 15, 2008 1:40 PM, W W < srilyk at gmail.com > wrote: So... I'm a student at UCA, taking my "Computer Science I" (read: coast class for anyone who's written a program). They use C++ as the CSCI I and II language. I've become an avid... oh I don't know what you call us python fans, but I've been one for quite a while now. But this just took the lesson home even further. Today for the in-class lesson -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/fe97e865/attachment.htm From srilyk at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 21:10:07 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:10:07 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] C++ vs. Python as teaching tool In-Reply-To: References: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> <333efb450801151150s49d9e924u2d065f8980d8f51a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <333efb450801151210q5d682a52kcd005c5968f56e82@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 15, 2008 2:02 PM, Chad Cooper wrote: > My favorite 4 lines of Python - sending email (in its rawest form) > > > > import smtplib > > server = smtplib.SMTP(email_server_ip) > > server.sendmail(from, to, msg) > > server.quit() > > That's certainly an amazing 4 lines... ---- I've actually already been exposed to c++ - when I was in "highschool" (read: homeschool), I took intro to programming (VBS anyone?) and intro to c++ at Pulaski Tech. That being said, it was also 4-5 years ago, and I haven't really done any c++ in the interim, so I'm sure I'm fairly rusty. Though now that I think about it I still have my old c++ book, w00t. Yay for programming, though. -Wayne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/2214ab1f/attachment.htm From gslindstrom at gmail.com Tue Jan 15 21:29:20 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:29:20 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] C++ vs. Python as teaching tool In-Reply-To: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> References: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jan 15, 2008 1:40 PM, W W wrote: > So... > I'm a student at UCA, > > They use C++ as the CSCI I and II language. I've become an avid... oh I > don't know what you call us python fans, I've heard "Pythonista" used a lot > but I've been one for quite a while now. But this just took the lesson > home even further. > I'm a C++ fan when you need the horsepower. But what I really like about Python as a learning language is the syntax is so simple; you can concentrate on the task at hand rather than how to code it up. That's great when you're teaching loops and such. It's even cooler when you get to classes and OOP. Python is just so simple, though it does violate some of the "theoretical" tenets of OOP such as data hiding. Larry Wall (creator of Perl) had a great line about Perl's OOP design. He said you were expected to follow OOP practice in the same way he expected you to stay out of his house. Not because it was locked, but because you just shouldn't do it! When I was going through school Pascal was used as a learning language. Now I think Python would be a great choice. There a really good introductory text, "How to Think Like a Computer Scientist". There's are a few editions, but the one I like uses Python. --greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/9263bca7/attachment-0001.htm From pyar2 at cowsgomoo.org Tue Jan 15 23:29:13 2008 From: pyar2 at cowsgomoo.org (Coltrey Mather) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:29:13 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] C++ vs. Python as teaching tool In-Reply-To: References: <333efb450801151140y3b71be3fl14686c90645e4adc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > > I'm a C++ fan when you need the horsepower. But what I really like about > Python as a learning language is the syntax is so simple; you can > concentrate on the task at hand rather than how to code it up. That's great > when you're teaching loops and such. It's even cooler when you get to > classes and OOP. Python is just so simple, though it does violate some of > the "theoretical" tenets of OOP such as data hiding. Larry Wall (creator of > Perl) had a great line about Perl's OOP design. He said you were expected > to follow OOP practice in the same way he expected you to stay out of his > house. Not because it was locked, but because you just shouldn't do it! > When I was going through school Pascal was used as a learning language. Now > I think Python would be a great choice. > The beauty of python is that all your "needs the horsepower" things can be written in C as python modules...the framework for doing things like that is mature and good (or so I hear) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080115/f022b18b/attachment.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Wed Jan 16 15:15:36 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:15:36 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] GIS Technician job opening with Southwestern Energy - Fayetteville, AR Message-ID: FYI - apply at: https://www.cytiva.com/swstn/Detail_swstn.asp?swstn6740 GIS Technician DESCRIPTION: Southwestern Energy Company is currently accepting on-line applications for a GIS Technician. This position is based in Fayetteville, Arkansas, working with assets in Arkansas and Oklahoma. RESPONSIBILITIES: The GIS Technician will be responsible for supporting Asset Teams in the following areas: * Producing maps from aerial photos, remote sensing, internet research, and acquisition of data from various sources for presentations and lease/contract analysis. * Providing detailed, quality, and error-free documentation and maps for use in petroleum exploration. * Preparing maps and drawings of natural gas facilities and maintaining the GIS database. * Using GIS software to produce finished maps, designs and drawings of natural gas facilities and infrastructure. * Developing, drafting and researching information to prepare finished drawings of facilities. * Creating drawings to assist the Engineering Department with the design and construction of proposed new facilities. * The GIS Technician will also be responsible for supporting the Corporate GIS Team in the following areas: 1. Identifying and collecting appropriate asset team spatial data. 2. Documenting and standardizing data management workflow processes and data attributes. REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS: * Legally authorized to work in the United States on a regular full-time basis without restrictions. * B.S. degree in GIS, Geography, Geology, or related field * Working experience in a GIS-related role (Technician, Analyst) a plus * Working experience in the oil and gas industry a plus * Proficient (perform the skill with limited assistance) with MS Office products: Excel, Word, PowerPoint, Access. * Ability to handle multiple tasks and efficiently prioritize work to meet deadlines. * Ability to research, find, analyze, and use various types of data sources from maps, geological surveys, and online resources. * Must have experience with drafting/mapping using ESRI Desktop products, AutoCad, GlobalMapper, and other GIS applications; Adobe Illustrator proficiency a plus. * High degree of technical proficiency; advanced skills in the use of a wide array of GIS tools, as well as strong graphic design background and experience troubleshooting/updating computer software and hardware. * Candidate must be a self-motivated team player able to conform to and maintain corporate GIS standards. SKILLS: * Knowledge of Cartography/Geography and spatial concepts. * Fundamental database knowledge with Access including exposure to related RDBMS such as SQL or Oracle. * Good analytical and creative problem solver. * Work cooperatively and jointly with other groups to provide quality spatial and tabular deliverables. * Ability to provide team members/upper management high-quality cartographic products * Good writing skills - for documentation, processes, and training. * Establishes and maintains effective working relationships with employees, team members, and internal teams. * GIS programming experience with Python, ArcObjects, VBA/VBScript a huge plus. * Experience writing complex SQL statements also a plus. Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080116/49ad7791/attachment.htm From cpfiles at gmail.com Wed Jan 16 16:24:50 2008 From: cpfiles at gmail.com (Chad Files) Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:24:50 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting on the 26th?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9735eb9b0801160724j3c4ca8che6c3bd013b0f3617@mail.gmail.com> On Jan 14, 2008 4:42 PM, Greg Lindstrom wrote: > Some of us have discussed meeting up on Saturday, 1/26 in Conway but want to > see if there is interest, first. I would love to be there but I will be out of town. You guys have a good time. /Chad From gslindstrom at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 15:59:09 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:59:09 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meeting This Saturday Message-ID: A few of us are planning on getting together this Saturday just to discuss what we want to do with a users group. Let's meet at the San Francisco Bread Company in Conway at 11:00 or so. SFBC is in Conway Commons; take the Highway 64 exit in Conway and turn East (towards Vilonia). Conway Commons is a few lights down on the right. Call me if you need better directions. (501) 514-2219. And here's another plug for PyCon in Chicago this March. Registration is open (us.pycon.org) and Thursday is offering a great assortment of tutorials. It's a great way to learn more about just about any aspect of Python. One talk in particular that I will attend on Saturday is "How to Run a Users Group". *Morning Session* (9:00am-12:20pm) - Eggs and Buildout Deployment in Python(Jeff Rush) - Python 101 for Programmers(Steve Holden) - Introduction to SQLAlchemy(Jonathan Ellis and Michael Bayer) - Python plotting with matplotlib and pylab(John Hunter) - SWIG Master Class (David Beazley) - Secrets of the Framework Creators(Feihong Hsu and Kumar McMillan) - Introduction to NumPy(Travis Oliphant and Eric Jones) - Making Small Software for Small People, Sugar/OLPC Coding by Example(Mike C. Fletcher) - Hands-on Python for the Absolute Beginner I(Dr. Andrew Harrington) *Afternoon Session* (1:20pm-4:40pm) - Python 101 (Stuart Williams) - Getting Started with Pylons/TurboGears2 & WSGI: Modern Python Web Development (Mark Ramm and Ben Bangert) - Advanced SQLAlchemy(Jonathan Ellis and Michael Bayer) - Django Tutorial (Jacob Kaplan-Moss) - wxPython I: Intro to GUI Programming with wxPython and MVC(David Goodger) - Faster Python Programs through Optimization and Extensions I(Mike M?ller) - Tools for Scientific Computing in Python(Travis Oliphant and Eric Jones) - Generator Tricks for Systems Programmers(David Beazley) - Basic Python for Java Programmers(Alex Martelli and Anna Ravenscroft) - Hands-on Python for the Absolute Beginner II(Dr. Andrew Harrington) *Evening Session* (6:10pm-9:30pm) - Python 102 (Stuart Williams) - Mastering Pylons and TurboGears 2: Moving Beyond the Basics.(Mark Ramm, Ben Bangert) - Practical Applications of Agile (Web) Testing Tools(C. Titus Brown and Grig Gheorghiu) - Django Code Lab (Jacob Kaplan-Moss, Adrian Holovaty and James Bennett) - wxPython II: Advanced GUI Programming with wxPython and MVC(David Goodger) - Faster Python Programs through Optimization and Extensions II(Mike M?ller) - Automating Windows Applications with win32com(Roy H. Han) - Internet Programming with Python(Wesley J. Chun) - Tail Wags Fangs: What Python Developers Should Know About Plone(Rob Lineberger) - Pygame: Modern game development(Noah Kantrowitz and Marc Destefano) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080123/d5effdd6/attachment.htm From gslindstrom at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 16:14:27 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:14:27 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] PyAR^2 Logo Design Message-ID: Hello Everyone, We need to think about a logo for the user group. As an incentive, I will award a copy of "Programming Python" and an embroidered polo shirt (Python logo) to the person submitting the "winning" design. Once we have the PyAR^2 logo digitized, you will also receive a shirt with the new PyAR^2 logo, too. Let's set a deadline of sometime this year and judging will be done by the group. I'm looking into getting a site hosted so we have a web presence and would like our own logo. --greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080123/93778ca9/attachment.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Wed Jan 23 17:01:39 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:01:39 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] PyAR^2 Logo Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greg, did you clear using the official Python logo in our logo design with the PSF? Looks like we are free to use it unaltered, but need permission to hack it: http://www.python.org/community/logos/ Also, concerning our meeting on this Sat at 11AM in Conway; it looks like we may get some freezing rain up here in NWA on Friday night. If we indeed do, I probably won't be able to make it, since I would be leaving here around 8AM and the roads would be still be iffy. However, lets hope the forecast changes and that doesn't happen and I can make it. chad! ________________________________ From: pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg Lindstrom Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:14 AM To: pyar2 at python.org Subject: [PyAR2] PyAR^2 Logo Design Hello Everyone, We need to think about a logo for the user group. As an incentive, I will award a copy of "Programming Python" and an embroidered polo shirt (Python logo) to the person submitting the "winning" design. Once we have the PyAR^2 logo digitized, you will also receive a shirt with the new PyAR^2 logo, too. Let's set a deadline of sometime this year and judging will be done by the group. I'm looking into getting a site hosted so we have a web presence and would like our own logo. --greg Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080123/7e254fb6/attachment.htm From gslindstrom at gmail.com Wed Jan 23 17:58:30 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:58:30 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] PyAR^2 Logo Design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 23, 2008 10:01 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > Greg, did you clear using the official Python logo in our logo design > with the PSF? Looks like we are free to use it unaltered, but need > permission to hack it: > I haven't looked into using the Python logo in our designs. We (my wife and I) have permission to use the logo for embroidery. > > > http://www.python.org/community/logos/ > > > > Also, concerning our meeting on this Sat at 11AM in Conway; it looks like > we may get some freezing rain up here in NWA on Friday night. If we indeed > do, I probably won't be able to make it, since I would be leaving here > around 8AM and the roads would be still be iffy. However, lets hope the > forecast changes and that doesn't happen and I can make it. > We'll keep an eye on the weather and may call it off if we need to. --greg > > > chad! > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org [mailto: > pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org] *On Behalf Of *Greg > Lindstrom > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:14 AM > *To:* pyar2 at python.org > *Subject:* [PyAR2] PyAR^2 Logo Design > > > > Hello Everyone, > > We need to think about a logo for the user group. As an incentive, I will > award a copy of "Programming Python" and an embroidered polo shirt (Python > logo) to the person submitting the "winning" design. Once we have the > PyAR^2 logo digitized, you will also receive a shirt with the new PyAR^2 > logo, too. > > Let's set a deadline of sometime this year and judging will be done by the > group. I'm looking into getting a site hosted so we have a web presence and > would like our own logo. > > --greg > > *Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the > addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you > may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from > your system.* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080123/ef8cf423/attachment-0001.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Thu Jan 24 15:58:28 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:58:28 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? Message-ID: Hey all.... I'm working on a presentation to give at a GIS for oil/gas conference in Houston next month and want to give a little info on IDEs/editors - just a slide or two on what's out there as alternatives to Notepad, IDLE and PythonWin. I have used PythonWin (and probably never will again), NotePad++, Eclipse w/ PyDev, and most recently SPE and PyScripter. I really like SPE, and PyScripter looks promising too. I just started using JEdit on my Mac at home, and have used TextWrangler a bunch there too. I'd like to poll the group and find out what you all are using, what you like, and what you don't. Note that everything I use is free, but if any of you are using something that isn't free, I'd like to hear about that too, because if you are using it, chances are its worth paying for, eh? Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks chad! Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080124/ceadb207/attachment.htm From gslindstrom at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 16:08:17 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:08:17 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Chad, For most of my work I still use vim. It's a bit of a pain to learn, but I started on vi (I really started on edlin; anyone else know what *that* is??). I bought the editor from Pythonware named "Wing IDE", but it was too complex for me (very much like Microsoft developer studio). They may have improved the usability, but it was more than I needed. Lately, I've been using IDLE; the editor that comes bundled with Python, more and more. It's pretty simple, but quite useful. There was a nice write-up on IDLE in the November, 2007 edition of Python Magazine. My boss likes UltraEdit which, I believe, one must purchase. HTH, --greg On Jan 24, 2008 8:58 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > Hey all.... > > > > I'm working on a presentation to give at a GIS for oil/gas conference in > Houston next month and want to give a little info on IDEs/editors ? just a > slide or two on what's out there as alternatives to Notepad, IDLE and > PythonWin. I have used PythonWin (and probably never will again), NotePad++, > Eclipse w/ PyDev, and most recently SPE and PyScripter. I really like SPE, > and PyScripter looks promising too. I just started using JEdit on my Mac at > home, and have used TextWrangler a bunch there too. I'd like to poll the > group and find out what you all are using, what you like, and what you > don't. Note that everything I use is free, but if any of you are using > something that isn't free, I'd like to hear about that too, because if you > are using it, chances are its worth paying for, eh? Any input is greatly > appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > chad! > > *Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the > addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you > may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from > your system.* > > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080124/503a2d70/attachment.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Thu Jan 24 16:29:33 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:29:33 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Greg, I quit using Eclipse/PyDev because it was too complex for me, and a memory hog as well. I've looked at Wing, it looks like its full of tons of bells and whistles. Thanks for the input. chad ________________________________ From: Greg Lindstrom [mailto:gslindstrom at gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:08 AM To: Chad Cooper Cc: pyar2 at python.org Subject: Re: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? Chad, For most of my work I still use vim. It's a bit of a pain to learn, but I started on vi (I really started on edlin; anyone else know what *that* is??). I bought the editor from Pythonware named "Wing IDE", but it was too complex for me (very much like Microsoft developer studio). They may have improved the usability, but it was more than I needed. Lately, I've been using IDLE; the editor that comes bundled with Python, more and more. It's pretty simple, but quite useful. There was a nice write-up on IDLE in the November, 2007 edition of Python Magazine. My boss likes UltraEdit which, I believe, one must purchase. HTH, --greg On Jan 24, 2008 8:58 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: Hey all.... I'm working on a presentation to give at a GIS for oil/gas conference in Houston next month and want to give a little info on IDEs/editors - just a slide or two on what's out there as alternatives to Notepad, IDLE and PythonWin. I have used PythonWin (and probably never will again), NotePad++, Eclipse w/ PyDev, and most recently SPE and PyScripter. I really like SPE, and PyScripter looks promising too. I just started using JEdit on my Mac at home, and have used TextWrangler a bunch there too. I'd like to poll the group and find out what you all are using, what you like, and what you don't. Note that everything I use is free, but if any of you are using something that isn't free, I'd like to hear about that too, because if you are using it, chances are its worth paying for, eh? Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks chad! Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. 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I'm trying to wean myself off vim, but on many systems, that's all I have (or emacs, which is another good-but-too-powerful editor). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080124/e37dc6fb/attachment-0001.htm From kwadroke at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 16:44:41 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:44:41 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 24, 2008 9:36 AM, Greg Lindstrom wrote: > On Jan 24, 2008 9:29 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Greg, I quit using Eclipse/PyDev because it was too complex for me, and a > memory hog as well. I've looked at Wing, it looks like its full of tons of > bells and whistles. > It is, and it's very cool to see one of their developers show it off; > there's lots you can do with it. The problem is, I don't want to spend the > time to learn to use a graphical debugger and all the other stuff. I'm old > enough to think a strategically placed "print" statement is still the best > debug technique. I'm trying to wean myself off vim, but on many systems, > that's all I have (or emacs, which is another good-but-too-powerful editor). > > > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > Nano and GEdit on Linux works for me :) -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Hot Springs Area Linux Users Group - hsalug.org Little Rock Linux Users Group - lrlug.org Central Arkansas Linux Users Group - carlug.org Arkansas Linux Users Group - arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com From srilyk at gmail.com Thu Jan 24 21:53:32 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:53:32 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <333efb450801241253k2020b144sdbdfd11f02960bd6@mail.gmail.com> I use vim/vi.... color coding, strategic print statements, :!python script.py runs my script for me. But then again I don't do as massive programs as I'm sure the rest of you do ;) -Wayne On Jan 24, 2008 9:44 AM, Kwadroke of The Wired wrote: > On Jan 24, 2008 9:36 AM, Greg Lindstrom wrote: > > On Jan 24, 2008 9:29 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Greg, I quit using Eclipse/PyDev because it was too complex for me, > and a > > memory hog as well. I've looked at Wing, it looks like its full of tons > of > > bells and whistles. > > It is, and it's very cool to see one of their developers show it off; > > there's lots you can do with it. The problem is, I don't want to spend > the > > time to learn to use a graphical debugger and all the other stuff. I'm > old > > enough to think a strategically placed "print" statement is still the > best > > debug technique. I'm trying to wean myself off vim, but on many > systems, > > that's all I have (or emacs, which is another good-but-too-powerful > editor). > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PyAR2 mailing list > > PyAR2 at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > > > > > > Nano and GEdit on Linux works for me :) > -- > Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Hot Springs Area Linux Users Group - hsalug.org > Little Rock Linux Users Group - lrlug.org > Central Arkansas Linux Users Group - carlug.org > Arkansas Linux Users Group - arlug.org > Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org > Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080124/9315f50d/attachment.htm From bob.fahr at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 01:24:37 2008 From: bob.fahr at gmail.com (Bob Fahr) Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:24:37 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3e011c0f0801241624u21f69507jbba49f13d377b048@mail.gmail.com> I agree with your comments about Eclipse/Pydev, but I do still use it as my primary editor. I mainly use it because of integration with subversion, and support for the other languages that I'm occasionally forced to use :-). If I'm not using Eclipse I'll use Emacs which does a good job of supporting Python. On Jan 24, 2008 9:29 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > Greg, I quit using Eclipse/PyDev because it was too complex for me, and a > memory hog as well. I've looked at Wing, it looks like its full of tons of > bells and whistles. > > > > Thanks for the input. > > > > chad > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Greg Lindstrom [mailto:gslindstrom at gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, January 24, 2008 9:08 AM > *To:* Chad Cooper > *Cc:* pyar2 at python.org > *Subject:* Re: [PyAR2] What editor/IDE do YOU use?? > > > > Chad, > > For most of my work I still use vim. It's a bit of a pain to learn, but I > started on vi (I really started on edlin; anyone else know what *that* > is??). > > I bought the editor from Pythonware named "Wing IDE", but it was too > complex for me (very much like Microsoft developer studio). They may have > improved the usability, but it was more than I needed. > > Lately, I've been using IDLE; the editor that comes bundled with Python, > more and more. It's pretty simple, but quite useful. There was a nice > write-up on IDLE in the November, 2007 edition of Python Magazine. > > My boss likes UltraEdit which, I believe, one must purchase. > > HTH, > --greg > > On Jan 24, 2008 8:58 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > Hey all.... > > > > I'm working on a presentation to give at a GIS for oil/gas conference in > Houston next month and want to give a little info on IDEs/editors ? just a > slide or two on what's out there as alternatives to Notepad, IDLE and > PythonWin. I have used PythonWin (and probably never will again), NotePad++, > Eclipse w/ PyDev, and most recently SPE and PyScripter. I really like SPE, > and PyScripter looks promising too. I just started using JEdit on my Mac at > home, and have used TextWrangler a bunch there too. I'd like to poll the > group and find out what you all are using, what you like, and what you > don't. Note that everything I use is free, but if any of you are using > something that isn't free, I'd like to hear about that too, because if you > are using it, chances are its worth paying for, eh? Any input is greatly > appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > chad! > > > > *Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the > addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you > may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you > received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by > telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from > your system.* > > > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > > > *Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information and is intended only for the addressee. 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Should we call off the meeting tomorrow and try again another time? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080125/900041a0/attachment.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Fri Jan 25 17:51:46 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:51:46 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meet tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Looks like we all have a chance of getting freezing rain today/tonite, eh? As much as I hate to admit it, I think we should postpone. chad ________________________________ From: pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg Lindstrom Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:47 AM To: pyar2 at python.org Subject: [PyAR2] Meet tomorrow? We're getting freezing rain in Little Rock. Should we call off the meeting tomorrow and try again another time? Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080125/95e03236/attachment.htm From kwadroke at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 17:57:31 2008 From: kwadroke at gmail.com (Kwadroke of The Wired) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:57:31 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Meet tomorrow? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jan 25, 2008 10:51 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > > > Looks like we all have a chance of getting freezing rain today/tonite, eh? > As much as I hate to admit it, I think we should postpone. > > > > chad > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org > [mailto:pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg > Lindstrom > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:47 AM > To: pyar2 at python.org > Subject: [PyAR2] Meet tomorrow? > > > > > We're getting freezing rain in Little Rock. Should we call off the meeting > tomorrow and try again another time? > Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information > and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the > person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or > distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return > e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > According to the weather, it's supposed to get up to 55degrees tomorrow. You think this will still be an issue? -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Hot Springs Area Linux Users Group - hsalug.org Little Rock Linux Users Group - lrlug.org Central Arkansas Linux Users Group - carlug.org Arkansas Linux Users Group - arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com From srilyk at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 18:31:19 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:31:19 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] POST with Python? Message-ID: <333efb450801250931g28f9548el497ec20332f775d7@mail.gmail.com> It appears possible, though it looks like any solution I've seen is too convoluted for what I want (maybe not though) basically, I want to use the POST method to request data from a server. instead of www.site.com/page.php?name=Bob (the GET fashion) I want to be able to use the POST method. Any help would be great! Thanks! -Wayne -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080125/c3f6d06a/attachment.htm From srilyk at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 18:40:03 2008 From: srilyk at gmail.com (W W) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:40:03 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] POST with Python? In-Reply-To: <333efb450801250931g28f9548el497ec20332f775d7@mail.gmail.com> References: <333efb450801250931g28f9548el497ec20332f775d7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <333efb450801250940j46fdde75q100405be3ad50292@mail.gmail.com> Ahah! I found out. Quite simple, really params = urllib.urlencode({'name': 'Bob'}) post = urllib.urlopen('www.site.com/page.php') post = post.read() And that's all she needs! -Wayne On Jan 25, 2008 11:31 AM, W W wrote: > It appears possible, though it looks like any solution I've seen is too > convoluted for what I want (maybe not though) > > basically, I want to use the POST method to request data from a server. > > instead of www.site.com/page.php?name=Bob (the GET fashion) > I want to be able to use the POST method. > > Any help would be great! Thanks! > -Wayne > > -- > To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being > called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every > weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement > and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080125/f3ba4b71/attachment.htm From pyar2 at cowsgomoo.org Fri Jan 25 18:47:00 2008 From: pyar2 at cowsgomoo.org (Coltrey Mather) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:47:00 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] POST with Python? In-Reply-To: <333efb450801250940j46fdde75q100405be3ad50292@mail.gmail.com> References: <333efb450801250931g28f9548el497ec20332f775d7@mail.gmail.com> <333efb450801250940j46fdde75q100405be3ad50292@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: post = urllib.urlopen('www.site.com/page.php', params) On Jan 25, 2008 11:40 AM, W W wrote: > Ahah! I found out. Quite simple, really > > params = urllib.urlencode({'name': 'Bob'}) > post = urllib.urlopen('www.site.com/page.php' > ) > post = post.read() > > And that's all she needs! > -Wayne > > > On Jan 25, 2008 11:31 AM, W W wrote: > > > It appears possible, though it looks like any solution I've seen is too > > convoluted for what I want (maybe not though) > > > > basically, I want to use the POST method to request data from a server. > > > > instead of www.site.com/page.php?name=Bob (the GET fashion) > > I want to be able to use the POST method. > > > > Any help would be great! Thanks! > > -Wayne > > > > -- > > To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being > > called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every > > weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement > > and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi > > > > > -- > To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being > called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every > weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement > and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi > > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080125/74f649e1/attachment.htm From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Fri Jan 25 18:50:58 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:50:58 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] POST with Python? In-Reply-To: References: <333efb450801250931g28f9548el497ec20332f775d7@mail.gmail.com><333efb450801250940j46fdde75q100405be3ad50292@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I was up late last nite trying to POST data to Flickr and its giving me fits, something wrong with my input params. So thanks, this helps me understand it a little bit more. chad! ________________________________ From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf Of Coltrey Mather Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:47 AM To: pyar2 at python.org Subject: Re: [PyAR2] POST with Python? post = urllib.urlopen('www.site.com/page.php', params) On Jan 25, 2008 11:40 AM, W W wrote: Ahah! I found out. Quite simple, really params = urllib.urlencode({'name': 'Bob'}) post = urllib.urlopen('www.site.com/page.php' ) post = post.read() And that's all she needs! -Wayne On Jan 25, 2008 11:31 AM, W W wrote: It appears possible, though it looks like any solution I've seen is too convoluted for what I want (maybe not though) basically, I want to use the POST method to request data from a server. instead of www.site.com/page.php?name=Bob (the GET fashion) I want to be able to use the POST method. Any help would be great! Thanks! -Wayne -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi -- To be considered stupid and to be told so is more painful than being called gluttonous, mendacious, violent, lascivious, lazy, cowardly: every weakness, every vice, has found its defenders, its rhetoric, its ennoblement and exaltation, but stupidity hasn't. - Primo Levi _______________________________________________ PyAR2 mailing list PyAR2 at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or distribute this communication to anyone else. 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Call if you need directions 501 514-2219 --greg On Jan 25, 2008 10:57 AM, Kwadroke of The Wired wrote: > On Jan 25, 2008 10:51 AM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Looks like we all have a chance of getting freezing rain today/tonite, > eh? > > As much as I hate to admit it, I think we should postpone. > > > > > > > > chad > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > From: pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org > > [mailto:pyar2-bounces+chad_cooper=swn.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Greg > > Lindstrom > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 10:47 AM > > To: pyar2 at python.org > > Subject: [PyAR2] Meet tomorrow? > > > > > > > > > > We're getting freezing rain in Little Rock. Should we call off the > meeting > > tomorrow and try again another time? > > Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential > information > > and is intended only for the addressee. 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You think this will still be an issue? > > -- > Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired > Red Hat Certified Engineer > > Hot Springs Area Linux Users Group - hsalug.org > Little Rock Linux Users Group - lrlug.org > Central Arkansas Linux Users Group - carlug.org > Arkansas Linux Users Group - arlug.org > Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org > Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/mailman/private/pyar2/attachments/20080125/3794ceca/attachment.htm From gslindstrom at gmail.com Fri Jan 25 21:36:48 2008 From: gslindstrom at gmail.com (Greg Lindstrom) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 14:36:48 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Sorry Guys... Message-ID: I just found out that I need to go to Lyon College tomorrow; my daughter had plans with a friend and the friend had to back out. I will be out of town all day. --greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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What about Feb 9th or 16th? > > > > chad! > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf > Of Greg Lindstrom > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:37 PM > To: pyar2 at python.org > Subject: [PyAR2] Sorry Guys... > > > > > I just found out that I need to go to Lyon College tomorrow; my daughter had > plans with a friend and the friend had to back out. I will be out of town > all day. > --greg > Notice: This e-mail may contain privileged and/or confidential information > and is intended only for the addressee. If you are not the addressee or the > person responsible for delivering it to the addressee, you may not copy or > distribute this communication to anyone else. If you received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone or return > e-mail and promptly delete the original message from your system. > > _______________________________________________ > PyAR2 mailing list > PyAR2 at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pyar2 > > So, no meeting tomorrow then? -- Tony Bates - Kwadroke of The Wired Red Hat Certified Engineer Hot Springs Area Linux Users Group - hsalug.org Little Rock Linux Users Group - lrlug.org Central Arkansas Linux Users Group - carlug.org Arkansas Linux Users Group - arlug.org Arkansas Laser Tag - arklt.org Kwadroke.com | Kwadrix.com From Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM Sat Jan 26 00:37:37 2008 From: Chad_Cooper at SWN.COM (Chad Cooper) Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:37:37 -0600 Subject: [PyAR2] Sorry Guys... Message-ID: I guess not, Tony. I think it was just you, Greg, & I. -----Original Message----- From: Kwadroke of The Wired [mailto:kwadroke at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 05:09 PM Central Standard Time To: Chad Cooper Cc: Greg Lindstrom; pyar2 at python.org Subject: Re: [PyAR2] Sorry Guys... On Jan 25, 2008 4:25 PM, Chad Cooper wrote: > > > > > All, I think I'm out too, I'd rather more of us be able to get together, at > least for me to drive down from NWA - its pretty much an all-day affair for > me. What about Feb 9th or 16th? > > > > chad! > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: pyar2-bounces at python.org [mailto:pyar2-bounces at python.org] On Behalf > Of Greg Lindstrom > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 2:37 PM > To: pyar2 at python.org > Subject: [PyAR2] Sorry Guys... > > > > > I just found out that I need to go to Lyon College tomorrow; my daughter had > plans with a friend and the friend had to back out. 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