[PSF-Community] EuroPython 2019: Mobile Conference App available

Antoine Pitrou antoine at python.org
Fri Jun 28 08:20:30 EDT 2019


What is "the community" in this context?  There are many Python-oriented
communities, not a single one, so I'm not surprised that little gets
discussed here.

Regards

Antoine.


Le 28/06/2019 à 09:48, Steve Holden a écrit :
> The clue is in the list's title: it's for people with some kind of
> interest and/or stake in the PSF,
> 
> Alas the community doesn't seem to feel the need for a bidirectional
> channel, and clearly very few information originators consider it useful.
> 
> If you are reading this message: what did you expect to see on this
> list? What might you do to encourage people to post the sort of content
> you'd like to see?
> 
> Kind regards.
> Steve Holden
> 
> PS: EuroPython is a brilliant community conference, in historical terms
> about six months older than PyCon and just as community-spirited.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 7:16 PM David Lord <davidism at gmail.com
> <mailto:davidism at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Given the amount of updates that EuroPython sends out, I can't
>     actually remember what else this mailing list gets off the top of my
>     head. However, I didn't sign up for this list expecting to get a
>     constant stream of updates about EuroPython. From the name and
>     description I'd imagine it would be more focused on news about the
>     PSF and community efforts with and around the PSF itself.
> 
>     It's not that I don't like to know that EuroPython is hard at work,
>     it's great that you're enthusiastic, but I don't think the level of
>     updates currently being sent to this list is useful. A few of the
>     most important updates, such as a CFP or ticket sales seems more
>     appropriate.
> 
>     I can add a filter that deletes anything with "EuroPython", but that
>     means I will hear nothing, rather than just important things, and
>     might miss other PSF-related discussions of EuroPython.
> 
>     On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:08 AM Mariatta <mariatta at python.org
>     <mailto:mariatta at python.org>> wrote:
> 
>         If you find yourself receiving too many posts from EuroPython,
>         it is quite simple to filter and automatically
>         archive/delete/mute emails containing the word "EuroPython".
> 
>         Perhaps the problem is not with EuroPython posting too many
>         things, but rather why aren't other members share more
>         "community-type" announcements here?
> 
>         If people always have to worry that they'll be criticized as
>         "spamming" it will deter people from actually posting useful
>         information.
> 
>         I personally think info about a conference is relevant to the
>         community, so it is fine to post them here.
> 
>         Another thing that would be great is if the PSF community page
>         (https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/psf-community) can be
>         updated to include more elaborate guidelines and examples of
>         what posts are acceptable or not.
> 
>> 
>         On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:17 AM James Bennett <james at b-list.org
>         <mailto:james at b-list.org>> wrote:
> 
> 
>             >> On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:35 AM, M.-A. Lemburg
>             <mal at python.org <mailto:mal at python.org>> wrote:
>             >>
>             >> I'm sorry if our posts come across as spamming. That is
>             certainly
>             >> not our attention.
>             >>
>             >> Since we do believe in the PSF community, we also believe
>             that such
>             >> announcements should be sent to this group and,
>             personally, I'd love
>             >> to see lots more coming from all kinds of Python events,
>             projects,
>             >> etc. A community has to be filled with life, lots of
>             opinions,
>             >> discussions and buzz.
>             >>
>             >> If the majority believes that this is not what this
>             mailing list
>             >> about, I can remove it from the list of MLs we distribute
>             >> announcements to.
>             >
>             >
>             > My issue is the *number* of announcements. No other PyCon
>             generates this many announcement posts.
>             >
>             > PyCon AU, to take an example, did an announcement of their
>             CFP, and then one more announcement combining their
>             schedule, call for volunteers, and opening of ticket sales.
>             That’s reasonable and honestly I wouldn’t have minded seeing
>             one or two others, like a reminder when the CFP was about to
>             close.
>             >
>             > EuroPython has done *seventeen* announcement posts… so
>             far. I have no doubt that many many more are still to come.
>             Why do you feel a need to make so many announcement posts? I
>             was not joking at all when I said I think EuroPython makes
>             more announcements than all other PyCons combined. So,
>             again: please start a mailing list for EuroPython, use it
>             for the bulk of your announcements, and save only a few
>             major ones like CFP open/close or ticket sales opening, for
>             this list.
> 
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