From andrew.lorente at gmail.com Sun Aug 4 17:23:59 2013 From: andrew.lorente at gmail.com (Andrew Lorente) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 08:23:59 -0700 Subject: [portland] Ghosts in the machine Message-ID: I'm seeing some stuff listed on pypi that says it does what I need, but when I try to install it, pip says there's no such thing. Specifically: $ pip search exif pexif - A module for editing JPEG EXIF data Django-Photofile - Templatetags for thumbnail generation, with automatic rotation based on EXIF.Orientation. Among other things. ExifRead - Read Exif metadata from tiff and jpeg files. *jpeg - read/write jpeg COM, EXIF, IPTC medata* GpxImageLinkifier - Links GPX tracks to photographs by matching the image timestamp (in the EXIF data) to the timestamp in the GPX track supplied. ngalerie - A tool to manage Camera pictures (Rotate, Resize, Rename using EXIF). pyexif - Python module to read/write EXIF image data *The-Big-Picture - Read and write Exif, IPTC metadata in Jpeg and Tiff images* exiflow - A set of tools including a little GUI to provide a complete digital photo workflow for Unixes, using EXIF headers as the central information repository. ztfy.imgtags - ZTFY package for EXIF/IPTC/XMP tags management Photofile - Templatetags for thumbnail generation, with automatic rotation based on EXIF.Orientation. The two bolded lines seem to be what I need. Indeed when I go look at pypi I can see jpeg and The-Big-Picture. But when I try to install them... $ pip install jpeg Downloading/unpacking jpeg Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement jpeg No distributions at all found for jpeg Storing complete log in /Users/andrewlorente/.pip/pip.log I feel like I'm missing something obvious but I can't tell what it is. Any clues for me? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ethan at stoneleaf.us Sun Aug 4 17:27:07 2013 From: ethan at stoneleaf.us (Ethan Furman) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 08:27:07 -0700 Subject: [portland] Ghosts in the machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51FE72CB.3080200@stoneleaf.us> I have no idea what the problem is between pip and PyPI, but take a look at Pillow: it's a active fork of PIL and will probably do what you need. -- ~Ethan~ From robin at alldunn.com Sun Aug 4 19:26:49 2013 From: robin at alldunn.com (Robin Dunn) Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2013 10:26:49 -0700 Subject: [portland] Ghosts in the machine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51FE8ED9.4020606@alldunn.com> Andrew Lorente wrote: > The two bolded lines seem to be what I need. Indeed when I go look at pypi > I can see jpeg and > The-Big-Picture. > But when I try to install them... > > $ pip install jpeg > Downloading/unpacking jpeg > Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement jpeg > No distributions at all found for jpeg > Storing complete log in /Users/andrewlorente/.pip/pip.log > > I feel like I'm missing something obvious but I can't tell what it is. Any > clues for me? Take a closer look at the PyPI pages. There are no download links, so pip doesn't know where to fetch the sources from. -- Robin Dunn Software Craftsman http://wxPython.org From luke.arno at gmail.com Sun Aug 4 19:41:07 2013 From: luke.arno at gmail.com (Luke Arno) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 10:41:07 -0700 Subject: [portland] Ghosts in the machine In-Reply-To: <51FE72CB.3080200@stoneleaf.us> References: <51FE72CB.3080200@stoneleaf.us> Message-ID: I had headaches installing both PIL and Pillow. On Ubuntu 12.0.4, I got PIL installing in my virtualenvs by simply linking the needed object files in before pip installing it. ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjpeg.so $VIRT/lib ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfreetype.so $VIRT/lib ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so $VIRT/lib Not sure if that was relevant, but I hope it helps. Luke On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Ethan Furman wrote: > I have no idea what the problem is between pip and PyPI, but take a look > at Pillow: it's a active fork of PIL and will probably do what you need. > > -- > ~Ethan~ > > ______________________________**_________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From adam at therobots.org Sun Aug 4 20:23:28 2013 From: adam at therobots.org (Adam Lowry) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 11:23:28 -0700 Subject: [portland] Ghosts in the machine In-Reply-To: <51FE8ED9.4020606@alldunn.com> References: <51FE8ED9.4020606@alldunn.com> Message-ID: On Aug 4, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Robin Dunn wrote: > Take a closer look at the PyPI pages. There are no download links, so pip doesn't know where to fetch the sources from. There was a recent update to PyPI to change how download links are presented by default. PyPI used to present the homepage and download url for easy_install and pip to scrape, looking for potential downloads. That could take forever, even if the project also presented the files or links directly on the index itself. Each package maintainer got an email telling them to either explicitly select this legacy behavior or to present specific links. Here are the links that were sent around, if you're interested: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0438/ http://pypi-externals.caremad.io/help/what/ What this likely means is that those packages that weren't installable didn't update their packages, which is a sign they might be unmaintained. If you're looking more closely at them I'd hit the source directly. Adam From michelle at pdxpython.org Mon Aug 5 04:39:46 2013 From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 19:39:46 -0700 Subject: [portland] August Presentation sponsor: TechFestNW -- wristband giveaway at the meeting on 8/13! Message-ID: Hey Pythonistas, TechFestNW is sponsoring our user group with a free wristband that will be given away at the next presentation meeting on 8/13. TechFestNW is the tech sibling of the local MusicFestNW conference, and is coming up September 6th - 8th. More details on the conference are included below. 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It would be great if something like that could happen some time. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis wrote: > I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in giving > a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk about. > So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. > > What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX > Python meetups? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/4049b40e/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lyzidiamond at gmail.com Mon Aug 5 21:09:13 2013 From: lyzidiamond at gmail.com (Lyzi Diamond) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 12:09:13 -0700 Subject: [portland] Presentation Topic Inspiration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Another beginner here! I think it would be cool to have someone (or multiple someones) show several ways to solve a common problem using Python, something like parsing text or archiving/renaming files or something. Solve the problem one way, then show another way to solve it. That could even be a collaborative presentation, with several people showing the different techniques they used to solve the same problem. Lyzi On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike Lindsay wrote: > I am the low end of the spectrum, just learning python. But I am a little > lost on getting started. The Pyladies did this a while back: > > PyLadies + OpenHatch: Make Your First Contribution to OSS! > > It would be great if something like that could happen some time. > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis wrote: > > > I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in > giving > > a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk about. > > So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. > > > > What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX > > Python meetups? > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/4049b40e/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/69787764/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xwraithanx at gmail.com Mon Aug 5 22:05:38 2013 From: xwraithanx at gmail.com (Wraithan McDonald) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:05:38 -0700 Subject: [portland] Presentation Topic Inspiration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Packaging Interfacing with Databases (pick one or an abstraction layer) Writing documentation Job queues (celery, rq, whatever else is cool) Demystifying RFCs and other very formal specs (talking about how to read/consume them as well as tips/tricks) Raspberrypi hacking, especially with regard to the GPIO pins and playing with hardware Interviewing (both for the interviewer as well as the interviewee) These vary in skill level, I can give some of these but encourage others to pick them up and run with them if they seem interesting. If you've never spoken, or never picked a topic you weren't already an expert on to speak about, I highly encourage it. Picking a topic, researching it well enough to give a talk and then doing it in front of your peers is very rewarding. Both in that you get to learn a bunch and that you are helping others in your community! -Wraithan On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Lyzi Diamond wrote: > Another beginner here! I think it would be cool to have someone (or > multiple someones) show several ways to solve a common problem using > Python, something like parsing text or archiving/renaming files or > something. Solve the problem one way, then show another way to solve it. > That could even be a collaborative presentation, with several people > showing the different techniques they used to solve the same problem. > > Lyzi > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike Lindsay wrote: > > > I am the low end of the spectrum, just learning python. But I am a > little > > lost on getting started. The Pyladies did this a while back: > > > > PyLadies + OpenHatch: Make Your First Contribution to OSS! > > > > It would be great if something like that could happen some time. > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis wrote: > > > > > I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in > > giving > > > a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk > about. > > > So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. > > > > > > What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX > > > Python meetups? > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/4049b40e/attachment.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Portland mailing list > > > Portland at python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/69787764/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/bd4a5312/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From freyley at gmail.com Mon Aug 5 22:18:23 2013 From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 13:18:23 -0700 Subject: [portland] Presentation Topic Inspiration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: +1 to writing documentation. pulling documentation out of code into a usable format. functional programming with itertools On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Wraithan McDonald wrote: > Packaging > Interfacing with Databases (pick one or an abstraction layer) > Writing documentation > Job queues (celery, rq, whatever else is cool) > Demystifying RFCs and other very formal specs (talking about how to > read/consume them as well as tips/tricks) > Raspberrypi hacking, especially with regard to the GPIO pins and playing > with hardware > Interviewing (both for the interviewer as well as the interviewee) > > These vary in skill level, I can give some of these but encourage others to > pick them up and run with them if they seem interesting. > > If you've never spoken, or never picked a topic you weren't already an > expert on to speak about, I highly encourage it. Picking a topic, > researching it well enough to give a talk and then doing it in front of > your peers is very rewarding. Both in that you get to learn a bunch and > that you are helping others in your community! > > -Wraithan > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Lyzi Diamond > wrote: > > > Another beginner here! I think it would be cool to have someone (or > > multiple someones) show several ways to solve a common problem using > > Python, something like parsing text or archiving/renaming files or > > something. Solve the problem one way, then show another way to solve it. > > That could even be a collaborative presentation, with several people > > showing the different techniques they used to solve the same problem. > > > > Lyzi > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike Lindsay wrote: > > > > > I am the low end of the spectrum, just learning python. But I am a > > little > > > lost on getting started. The Pyladies did this a while back: > > > > > > PyLadies + OpenHatch: Make Your First Contribution to OSS! > > > > > > It would be great if something like that could happen some time. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis > wrote: > > > > > > > I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in > > > giving > > > > a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk > > about. > > > > So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. > > > > > > > > What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX > > > > Python meetups? > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: < > > > > > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/4049b40e/attachment.html > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Portland mailing list > > > > Portland at python.org > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/69787764/attachment.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Portland mailing list > > > Portland at python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/bd4a5312/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/ef948e4c/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jchampion at zetacentauri.com Mon Aug 5 22:58:48 2013 From: jchampion at zetacentauri.com (Jason Champion) Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2013 13:58:48 -0700 Subject: [portland] Presentation Topic Inspiration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52001208.3090204@zetacentauri.com> These are the things I'd be interested in seeing. GUI Frameworks/toolkits: --- pyQt wxPython pygame pyOpenGL Python-Ogre sciPy/numPy/matplotlib Integrating Python with other languages (via Boost::Python, SWIG, etc.) On 08/05/2013 01:18 PM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > +1 to writing documentation. > pulling documentation out of code into a usable format. > functional programming with itertools > > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Wraithan McDonald wrote: > >> Packaging >> Interfacing with Databases (pick one or an abstraction layer) >> Writing documentation >> Job queues (celery, rq, whatever else is cool) >> Demystifying RFCs and other very formal specs (talking about how to >> read/consume them as well as tips/tricks) >> Raspberrypi hacking, especially with regard to the GPIO pins and playing >> with hardware >> Interviewing (both for the interviewer as well as the interviewee) >> >> These vary in skill level, I can give some of these but encourage others to >> pick them up and run with them if they seem interesting. >> >> If you've never spoken, or never picked a topic you weren't already an >> expert on to speak about, I highly encourage it. Picking a topic, >> researching it well enough to give a talk and then doing it in front of >> your peers is very rewarding. Both in that you get to learn a bunch and >> that you are helping others in your community! >> >> -Wraithan >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Lyzi Diamond >> wrote: >> >>> Another beginner here! I think it would be cool to have someone (or >>> multiple someones) show several ways to solve a common problem using >>> Python, something like parsing text or archiving/renaming files or >>> something. Solve the problem one way, then show another way to solve it. >>> That could even be a collaborative presentation, with several people >>> showing the different techniques they used to solve the same problem. >>> >>> Lyzi >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> I am the low end of the spectrum, just learning python. But I am a >>> little >>>> lost on getting started. The Pyladies did this a while back: >>>> >>>> PyLadies + OpenHatch: Make Your First Contribution to OSS! >>>> >>>> It would be great if something like that could happen some time. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis >> wrote: >>>>> I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in >>>> giving >>>>> a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk >>> about. >>>>> So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. >>>>> >>>>> What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX >>>>> Python meetups? >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: < >>>>> >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/4049b40e/attachment.html >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Portland mailing list >>>>> Portland at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland >>>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/69787764/attachment.html >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Portland mailing list >>>> Portland at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/bd4a5312/attachment.html >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Portland mailing list >>> Portland at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/ef948e4c/attachment.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Portland mailing list >> Portland at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland From lindsm at gmail.com Mon Aug 5 23:02:22 2013 From: lindsm at gmail.com (Mike Lindsay) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 14:02:22 -0700 Subject: [portland] Presentation Topic Inspiration In-Reply-To: <52001208.3090204@zetacentauri.com> References: <52001208.3090204@zetacentauri.com> Message-ID: Wasn't there a gui one recently? On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Jason Champion wrote: > These are the things I'd be interested in seeing. > > GUI Frameworks/toolkits: > --- > pyQt > wxPython > pygame > pyOpenGL > Python-Ogre > sciPy/numPy/matplotlib > > Integrating Python with other languages (via Boost::Python, SWIG, etc.) > > > > On 08/05/2013 01:18 PM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > >> +1 to writing documentation. >> pulling documentation out of code into a usable format. >> functional programming with itertools >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Wraithan McDonald > >wrote: >> >> Packaging >>> Interfacing with Databases (pick one or an abstraction layer) >>> Writing documentation >>> Job queues (celery, rq, whatever else is cool) >>> Demystifying RFCs and other very formal specs (talking about how to >>> read/consume them as well as tips/tricks) >>> Raspberrypi hacking, especially with regard to the GPIO pins and playing >>> with hardware >>> Interviewing (both for the interviewer as well as the interviewee) >>> >>> These vary in skill level, I can give some of these but encourage others >>> to >>> pick them up and run with them if they seem interesting. >>> >>> If you've never spoken, or never picked a topic you weren't already an >>> expert on to speak about, I highly encourage it. Picking a topic, >>> researching it well enough to give a talk and then doing it in front of >>> your peers is very rewarding. Both in that you get to learn a bunch and >>> that you are helping others in your community! >>> >>> -Wraithan >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Lyzi Diamond >>> wrote: >>> >>> Another beginner here! I think it would be cool to have someone (or >>>> multiple someones) show several ways to solve a common problem using >>>> Python, something like parsing text or archiving/renaming files or >>>> something. Solve the problem one way, then show another way to solve it. >>>> That could even be a collaborative presentation, with several people >>>> showing the different techniques they used to solve the same problem. >>>> >>>> Lyzi >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Mike Lindsay wrote: >>>> >>>> I am the low end of the spectrum, just learning python. But I am a >>>>> >>>> little >>>> >>>>> lost on getting started. The Pyladies did this a while back: >>>>> >>>>> PyLadies + OpenHatch: Make Your First Contribution to OSS! >>>>> >>>>> It would be great if something like that could happen some time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis >>>>> >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in >>>>>> >>>>> giving >>>>> >>>>>> a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk >>>>>> >>>>> about. >>>> >>>>> So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. >>>>>> >>>>>> What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX >>>>>> Python meetups? >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>>> URL: < >>>>>> >>>>>> http://mail.python.org/**pipermail/portland/** >>> attachments/20130805/4049b40e/**attachment.html >>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> Portland mailing list >>>>>> Portland at python.org >>>>>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland >>>>>> >>>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>>> URL: < >>>>> >>>>> http://mail.python.org/**pipermail/portland/** >>> attachments/20130805/69787764/**attachment.html >>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> Portland mailing list >>>>> Portland at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland >>>>> >>>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>>> URL: < >>>> >>>> http://mail.python.org/**pipermail/portland/** >>> attachments/20130805/bd4a5312/**attachment.html >>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Portland mailing list >>>> Portland at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland >>>> >>>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://mail.python.org/**pipermail/portland/** >>> attachments/20130805/ef948e4c/**attachment.html >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Portland mailing list >>> Portland at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: > attachments/20130805/48cdbf70/**attachment.html >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Portland mailing list >> Portland at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sparkytwobillion at gmail.com Tue Aug 6 01:42:42 2013 From: sparkytwobillion at gmail.com (dfasdf pifpoajsfdl) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 16:42:42 -0700 Subject: [portland] Presentation Topic Inspiration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Context Managers. Something a little more in depth about what uses they can be put to would be great. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis wrote: > I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in giving > a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk about. > So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. > > What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX > Python meetups? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/4049b40e/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From robotbill at gmail.com Tue Aug 6 18:47:19 2013 From: robotbill at gmail.com (Joe Lewis) Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 09:47:19 -0700 Subject: [portland] Presentation Topic Inspiration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'd be interested in a talk on metaclasses or metaprogramming in general. On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM, dfasdf pifpoajsfdl < sparkytwobillion at gmail.com> wrote: > Context Managers. Something a little more in depth about what uses they can > be put to would be great. > > > On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Lewis wrote: > > > I believe that there are people in this group who are interested in > giving > > a presentation at a PDX Python meetup, but don't know what to talk about. > > So I'm starting this thread to collect ideas for presentations. > > > > What would you be interested in learning about at one of the next PDX > > Python meetups? > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/4049b40e/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130805/bb453f49/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From jchampion at zetacentauri.com Sat Aug 10 08:45:41 2013 From: jchampion at zetacentauri.com (Jason Champion) Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2013 23:45:41 -0700 Subject: [portland] Moving to Portland Area In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5205E195.3040204@zetacentauri.com> Hi David, As someone with 8+ years of experience with wx and 2+ with Qt (in both Python and C++), I would strongly recommend looking at Qt over wx. wxPython/wxWidgets is not as robust, consistent, or well-maintained as Qt and has a lot of cross-platform inconsistencies that become incredibly frustrating whenever you want to build anything complex or heavily customized. The OSX and mobile support is also somewhat lacking. That said, if you ever need any assistance with wx I can probably help out. "Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt" by Mark Summerfield is a great book and well worth the (investment|libraryvisit). Since you asked about meetings/presentations, you probably don't know about the meetup group. It's the best place to watch for those: http://www.meetup.com/pdxpython/ Cheers, Jason On 08/09/2013 09:20 PM, David Chandler wrote: > I have been on the mailing list for awhile (from Central California) but am > looking forward to moving to Portland area and actually talking to > Python-literate people face-to-face. (When it comes to programming of any > kind it's a wasteland down here!) Please let me know when you have > meetings/meetups/ > presentations/whatever. > > I have done a number of projects in Python, but so much gap in between that > I'm constantly having to review the basics. My immediate goal is learning > to do GUIs ... trending toward WX at the moment. I have quite a bit of > programming experience but from days gone by (in the DOS era: Borland > Pascal). > > --David Chandler > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland From michael.schurter at gmail.com Sat Aug 10 20:33:51 2013 From: michael.schurter at gmail.com (Michael Schurter) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 11:33:51 -0700 Subject: [portland] Moving to Portland Area In-Reply-To: <5205E195.3040204@zetacentauri.com> References: <5205E195.3040204@zetacentauri.com> Message-ID: Calagator is a fantastic resource for Portland tech meetups of all kinds: http://calagator.org/ The Django meetup was recently revived if you're interested in the web side of Python: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/pdxdjango The IRC channel #pdxpython on Freenode is always a great place to ask questions and learn about what's going on. Hope that helps! On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:45 PM, Jason Champion wrote: > Hi David, > > As someone with 8+ years of experience with wx and 2+ with Qt (in both > Python and C++), I would strongly recommend looking at Qt over wx. > wxPython/wxWidgets is not as robust, consistent, or well-maintained as Qt > and has a lot of cross-platform inconsistencies that become incredibly > frustrating whenever you want to build anything complex or heavily > customized. The OSX and mobile support is also somewhat lacking. > > That said, if you ever need any assistance with wx I can probably help out. > > "Rapid GUI Programming with Python and Qt" by Mark Summerfield is a great > book and well worth the (investment|libraryvisit). > > Since you asked about meetings/presentations, you probably don't know > about the meetup group. It's the best place to watch for those: > http://www.meetup.com/**pdxpython/ > > Cheers, > Jason > > > On 08/09/2013 09:20 PM, David Chandler wrote: > >> I have been on the mailing list for awhile (from Central California) but >> am >> looking forward to moving to Portland area and actually talking to >> Python-literate people face-to-face. (When it comes to programming of any >> kind it's a wasteland down here!) Please let me know when you have >> meetings/meetups/ >> presentations/whatever. >> >> I have done a number of projects in Python, but so much gap in between >> that >> I'm constantly having to review the basics. My immediate goal is learning >> to do GUIs ... trending toward WX at the moment. 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We're transforming the way that businesses connect to the internet, and we're looking for someone to help us with portions of our web application. Feel free to check out our current site (www.bigleaf.net) for the basic details of what we're up to. This contract project should last 3-5 weeks, and after that there may be future opportunities as well. *What you'll be doing* This project will consist of creating the dynamic portions of our website. We need to set up an ordering system, user account/login system, ability for users to interact with the services they've ordered (view monitoring data, moves/adds/changes), and more. We'll provide you with access to our web server to code on a development version of the site. The site is currently using Pyramid, PostgreSQL and Bootstrap. We'll work with you to create specifications for all the functionality and for each page, that way everyone is aware of what the end product should look like and do. *Who we're looking for* You should be a person who's passionate about doing your work with excellence, you love to create new things and have an eye for design, and you have a good feel for how users would like to interact with a site. You should have an entrepreneurial spirit, and a drive to help bring the project to completion. You should have strong experience with: -Web development -Python -CSS -SQL You should have at least some experience with: -Twitter Bootstrap -A python-based web framework (Pyramid experience preferred) -Javascript and JQuery -Responsive design and browser compatibility -Linux sysadmin work -Ethernet and TCP/IP network fundamentals -Git You'll need to provide examples of previous work that are relevant to this project. You should be available to work at least 10 hours per week on the project, preferably more. *What you get out of it* Please let us know what your hourly rate is. We are a young bootstrapping startup, so we don't have mountains of money, but we are certainly willing to compensate you for your work. If you're willing to take less compensation now in light of the strong possibility of future work and/or employment that will definitely be noted. *How you should respond* Please send a brief resume and an email outlining how you meet the qualifications listed above. Include examples of your relevant experience and prior work. Let us know why this project interests you. Finally, include any notes about how you would like to approach the project. Thanks for your time, and feel free to send this along to someone if you think they might be interested. Joel Mulkey Founder and CEO Bigleaf Networks Direct: +1 (503) 985-8298 Web: www.bigleaf.net Twitter: @BigleafNetworks From miguelgrinberg50 at gmail.com Wed Aug 7 20:21:59 2013 From: miguelgrinberg50 at gmail.com (Miguel Grinberg) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2013 11:21:59 -0700 Subject: [portland] Any interest in a Flask presentation? Message-ID: Hi, I was wondering if you guys have interest in a presentation about the Flask web microframework. I'm currently writing a book on Flask for O'Reilly and would welcome the opportunity to share some of the material I'm preparing for the book and get feedback. I think I could prepare an "Introduction to Flask" session which would be a condensed version of Chapter 1 of the book. Let me know if this sounds interesting. Best regards, Miguel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Miguel Grinberg wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if you guys have interest in a presentation about the Flask > web microframework. > > I'm currently writing a book on Flask for O'Reilly and would welcome the > opportunity to share some of the material I'm preparing for the book and > get feedback. > > I think I could prepare an "Introduction to Flask" session which would be a > condensed version of Chapter 1 of the book. > > Let me know if this sounds interesting. > > Best regards, > > Miguel > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130807/5910efa6/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew.lorente at gmail.com Sat Aug 10 23:51:43 2013 From: andrew.lorente at gmail.com (Andrew Lorente) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 14:51:43 -0700 Subject: [portland] Any interest in a Flask presentation? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Miguel, We had a talk on flask a little less than a year ago. I don't think that means you *can't* do an introductory talk but maybe a lot of the group would know it already. But the group has also grown since then, so I might be the only one interested in intermediate-level talks. But in the year since that presentation, I've started using Flask recreationally, so I'd love to go to a talk like "growing your app past the first dozen routes" or "this is what blueprints are and how you use them"* or "here's some cool plugins that do stuff you were thinking about hand-rolling." Maybe you could even do a series? I dunno if the organizers would say "that sure is a lot of free promotion for your book" or "heck yeah, more speaker slots filled!" :-) * are those two the same talk? I have a vague idea that that's what blueprints are for. On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Miguel Grinberg wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if you guys have interest in a presentation about the Flask > web microframework. > > I'm currently writing a book on Flask for O'Reilly and would welcome the > opportunity to share some of the material I'm preparing for the book and > get feedback. > > I think I could prepare an "Introduction to Flask" session which would be a > condensed version of Chapter 1 of the book. > > Let me know if this sounds interesting. > > Best regards, > > Miguel > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130807/5910efa6/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miguelgrinberg50 at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 03:39:00 2013 From: miguelgrinberg50 at gmail.com (Miguel) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 18:39:00 -0700 Subject: [portland] Any interest in a Flask presentation? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5206EB34.50902@gmail.com> Hi, To give you a bit more info, what I was thinking as an "Intro to Flask" presentation would more or less cover the following topics: - Brief intro material discussing design, extensions, etc. - Build a simple single-file "Hello, world" type app - Add templates - Add forms and form validation - Add user session and redirects - Discuss MVC and how it applies to Flask - Convert to a scalable multi-file app structure - Discuss how Blueprints help grow your app even more Was the previous presentation on Flask more, less or about the same as the above? I'm a very hands-on person, by the way. Most of my slides will have code in them. :) Regarding the "free promotion for my book" bit, keep in mind that (a) the book is several months away, and (b) it wouldn't be free if I give you something (i.e. present to you) in exchange. I wish I could promote my book, but there won't be book for a while, I have a lot of writing still to do. Thanks! Miguel On 8/10/2013 2:51 PM, Andrew Lorente wrote: > Hi Miguel, > > We had a talk on flask a little less than a year > ago. > I don't think that means you *can't* do an introductory talk but maybe a > lot of the group would know it already. But the group has also grown since > then, so I might be the only one interested in intermediate-level talks. > But in the year since that presentation, I've started using Flask > recreationally, so I'd love to go to a talk like "growing your app past the > first dozen routes" or "this is what blueprints are and how you use them"* > or "here's some cool plugins that do stuff you were thinking about > hand-rolling." > > Maybe you could even do a series? I dunno if the organizers would say "that > sure is a lot of free promotion for your book" or "heck yeah, more speaker > slots filled!" :-) > > * are those two the same talk? I have a vague idea that that's what > blueprints are for. > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Miguel Grinberg > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if you guys have interest in a presentation about the Flask >> web microframework. >> >> I'm currently writing a book on Flask for O'Reilly and would welcome the >> opportunity to share some of the material I'm preparing for the book and >> get feedback. >> >> I think I could prepare an "Introduction to Flask" session which would be a >> condensed version of Chapter 1 of the book. >> >> Let me know if this sounds interesting. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Miguel >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130807/5910efa6/attachment.html >> _______________________________________________ >> Portland mailing list >> Portland at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland From andrew.lorente at gmail.com Sun Aug 11 16:10:23 2013 From: andrew.lorente at gmail.com (Andrew Lorente) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 07:10:23 -0700 Subject: [portland] Any interest in a Flask presentation? In-Reply-To: <5206EB34.50902@gmail.com> References: <5206EB34.50902@gmail.com> Message-ID: Oh dang I would definitely be interested in that talk :-) On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Miguel wrote: > Hi, > > To give you a bit more info, what I was thinking as an "Intro to Flask" > presentation would more or less cover the following topics: > > - Brief intro material discussing design, extensions, etc. > - Build a simple single-file "Hello, world" type app > - Add templates > - Add forms and form validation > - Add user session and redirects > - Discuss MVC and how it applies to Flask > - Convert to a scalable multi-file app structure > - Discuss how Blueprints help grow your app even more > > Was the previous presentation on Flask more, less or about the same as the > above? > > I'm a very hands-on person, by the way. Most of my slides will have code > in them. :) > > Regarding the "free promotion for my book" bit, keep in mind that (a) the > book is several months away, and (b) it wouldn't be free if I give you > something (i.e. present to you) in exchange. I wish I could promote my > book, but there won't be book for a while, I have a lot of writing still to > do. > > Thanks! > > Miguel > > > On 8/10/2013 2:51 PM, Andrew Lorente wrote: > >> Hi Miguel, >> >> We had a talk on flask a little less than a year >> ago >> >. >> I don't think that means you *can't* do an introductory talk but maybe a >> >> lot of the group would know it already. But the group has also grown since >> then, so I might be the only one interested in intermediate-level talks. >> But in the year since that presentation, I've started using Flask >> recreationally, so I'd love to go to a talk like "growing your app past >> the >> first dozen routes" or "this is what blueprints are and how you use them"* >> or "here's some cool plugins that do stuff you were thinking about >> hand-rolling." >> >> Maybe you could even do a series? I dunno if the organizers would say >> "that >> sure is a lot of free promotion for your book" or "heck yeah, more speaker >> slots filled!" :-) >> >> * are those two the same talk? I have a vague idea that that's what >> blueprints are for. >> >> >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Miguel Grinberg < >> miguelgrinberg50 at gmail.com >> >>> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was wondering if you guys have interest in a presentation about the >>> Flask >>> web microframework. >>> >>> I'm currently writing a book on Flask for O'Reilly and would welcome the >>> opportunity to share some of the material I'm preparing for the book and >>> get feedback. >>> >>> I think I could prepare an "Introduction to Flask" session which would >>> be a >>> condensed version of Chapter 1 of the book. >>> >>> Let me know if this sounds interesting. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Miguel >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >>> URL: < >>> http://mail.python.org/**pipermail/portland/** >>> attachments/20130807/5910efa6/**attachment.html >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Portland mailing list >>> Portland at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: > attachments/20130810/5cf16904/**attachment.html >> > >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Portland mailing list >> Portland at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland >> > > ______________________________**_________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.foster.c at gmail.com Mon Aug 12 01:32:28 2013 From: matt.foster.c at gmail.com (Matt Foster) Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 16:32:28 -0700 Subject: [portland] Any interest in a Flask presentation? In-Reply-To: References: <5206EB34.50902@gmail.com> Message-ID: Big +1. Would love to hear about Flask. I've found Miguel's blog posts to be super helpful! On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Andrew Lorente wrote: > Oh dang I would definitely be interested in that talk :-) > > > On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Miguel > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > To give you a bit more info, what I was thinking as an "Intro to Flask" > > presentation would more or less cover the following topics: > > > > - Brief intro material discussing design, extensions, etc. > > - Build a simple single-file "Hello, world" type app > > - Add templates > > - Add forms and form validation > > - Add user session and redirects > > - Discuss MVC and how it applies to Flask > > - Convert to a scalable multi-file app structure > > - Discuss how Blueprints help grow your app even more > > > > Was the previous presentation on Flask more, less or about the same as > the > > above? > > > > I'm a very hands-on person, by the way. Most of my slides will have code > > in them. :) > > > > Regarding the "free promotion for my book" bit, keep in mind that (a) the > > book is several months away, and (b) it wouldn't be free if I give you > > something (i.e. present to you) in exchange. I wish I could promote my > > book, but there won't be book for a while, I have a lot of writing still > to > > do. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Miguel > > > > > > On 8/10/2013 2:51 PM, Andrew Lorente wrote: > > > >> Hi Miguel, > >> > >> We had a talk on flask a little less than a year > >> ago http://www.meetup.com/pdxpython/events/76039962/> > >> >. > >> I don't think that means you *can't* do an introductory talk but maybe a > >> > >> lot of the group would know it already. But the group has also grown > since > >> then, so I might be the only one interested in intermediate-level talks. > >> But in the year since that presentation, I've started using Flask > >> recreationally, so I'd love to go to a talk like "growing your app past > >> the > >> first dozen routes" or "this is what blueprints are and how you use > them"* > >> or "here's some cool plugins that do stuff you were thinking about > >> hand-rolling." > >> > >> Maybe you could even do a series? I dunno if the organizers would say > >> "that > >> sure is a lot of free promotion for your book" or "heck yeah, more > speaker > >> slots filled!" :-) > >> > >> * are those two the same talk? I have a vague idea that that's what > >> blueprints are for. > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Miguel Grinberg < > >> miguelgrinberg50 at gmail.com > >> > >>> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> I was wondering if you guys have interest in a presentation about the > >>> Flask > >>> web microframework. > >>> > >>> I'm currently writing a book on Flask for O'Reilly and would welcome > the > >>> opportunity to share some of the material I'm preparing for the book > and > >>> get feedback. > >>> > >>> I think I could prepare an "Introduction to Flask" session which would > >>> be a > >>> condensed version of Chapter 1 of the book. > >>> > >>> Let me know if this sounds interesting. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Miguel > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > >>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >>> URL: < > >>> http://mail.python.org/**pipermail/portland/** > >>> attachments/20130807/5910efa6/**attachment.html< > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130807/5910efa6/attachment.html > > > >>> ______________________________**_________________ > >>> Portland mailing list > >>> Portland at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland< > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland> > >>> > >>> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: >> attachments/20130810/5cf16904/**attachment.html< > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130810/5cf16904/attachment.html > > > >> > > >> > >> ______________________________**_________________ > >> Portland mailing list > >> Portland at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland< > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland> > >> > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/portland< > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland> > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130811/a969fa48/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From rbednark at gmail.com Wed Aug 14 02:23:13 2013 From: rbednark at gmail.com (Rob Bednark) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:23:13 -0700 Subject: [portland] Atlatl is hiring Django web developers (all skill levels; fulltime and contract) Message-ID: My employer (Atlatl Software) has multiple openings for Django Web Developers to join our web development team. Click this link to apply: http://bit.ly/atlatl-jobs All skill levels (beginners to expert) are welcome. We have openings for full-time employees as well as contractors. Atlatl (http://atlatlsoftware.com) is headquartered in Charleston, SC. Our Portland office currently has 6 employees and is growing. We are located at 3030 SW Moody, Portland, OR, close to downtown, on streetcar and bus lines, with free parking. I'm the lead web developer at Atlatl, and I'll be at the Python Monthly Presentation Night tonight (Tue 8/13), and at the Python hack night on 8/27, so feel free to come talk to me to get more info. If you have any questions about the position, or want to tell me about yourself, feel free to contact me directly via phone or email. Rob Bednark 503-877-2336 rbednark at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jchampion at zetacentauri.com Wed Aug 14 02:43:49 2013 From: jchampion at zetacentauri.com (Jason Champion) Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 17:43:49 -0700 Subject: [portland] Atlatl is hiring Django web developers (all skill levels; fulltime and contract) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <520AD2C5.1010906@zetacentauri.com> Hi Rob, We connected on LinkedIn after the last Python group meetup, and I've been meaning to ask you about your experience at Tixie. I interviewed there early this year (probably right after you left) and they were really odd -- it was a "we *really* want to hire you but we're trying to raise enough funding to hire someone" kind of situation. I found other things to do. :) What does Atlatl software do? It looks like they're using both Unity w/C# and Python and I can't really tell exactly what the product is at first glance, but seems like a fun combo of tools. I'll be at the meeting tonight, so likely talk to you there. :) Cheers, Jason On 08/13/2013 05:23 PM, Rob Bednark wrote: > My employer (Atlatl Software) has multiple openings for Django Web > Developers to join our web development team. Click this link to apply: > http://bit.ly/atlatl-jobs > All skill levels (beginners to expert) are welcome. We have openings for > full-time employees as well as contractors. > > Atlatl (http://atlatlsoftware.com) is headquartered in Charleston, SC. Our > Portland office currently has 6 employees and is growing. We are located at > 3030 SW Moody, Portland, OR, close to downtown, on streetcar and bus lines, > with free parking. > > I'm the lead web developer at Atlatl, and I'll be at the Python Monthly > Presentation Night tonight (Tue 8/13), and at the Python hack night on > 8/27, so feel free to come talk to me to get more info. 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It's not a permanent position, so buying pizza for the meetup just to get a contractor seems a little excessive. Is our mailing list the only other option? Do people find job postings to this list helpful (either an employer or employee)? Also, I'd love to see http://pdxpython.org get some love (perhaps from some kind webdevs at a monthly hack night?). The Meetup page is pretty inviting for people wishing to attend meetups, but the wiki is pretty frightening for people curious about the Portland Python community in general - especially since it's had a big red warning at the top since January! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michelle at pdxpython.org Wed Aug 21 04:43:06 2013 From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:43:06 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Michael, All good ideas! Until recently, we haven't had much programming power (or spare time) behind the idea for a new website. However, some of the new co-organizers are now planning/building a site which might include a jobs board. And I'm sure they're accepting help if you're so inclined! :) Best, Michelle Michelle Rowley http://www.michellerowley.com/ Organizer, Portland Python User Group Executive Director, Code Scouts On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Michael Schurter < michael.schurter at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Pythoneers! > > I was chatting with a friend at a design agency who was really frustrated > with how hard it was to find a Django contractor in Portland (hopefully > more details on that opportunity coming soon). > > It's not a permanent position, so buying pizza for the meetup just to get a > contractor seems a little excessive. Is our mailing list the only other > option? Do people find job postings to this list helpful (either an > employer or employee)? > > Also, I'd love to see http://pdxpython.org get some love (perhaps from > some > kind webdevs at a monthly hack night?). The Meetup page is pretty inviting > for people wishing to attend meetups, but the wiki is pretty frightening > for people curious about the Portland Python community in general - > especially since it's had a big red warning at the top since January! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130820/dee8e192/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thomas at metaphorlab.com Wed Aug 21 07:04:31 2013 From: thomas at metaphorlab.com (Thomas Hamlin) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:04:31 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> I no longer respond to job offers if they do not come with pizza or beer. Preferably both. :o But seriously. I'm never offended when someone posts jobs here, and we've done so for my employer (cloudboltsoftware.com). There are other channels that likely work better, though. Small projects are definitely tough to staff up and I think developing a long-term relationship with a small shop/collaborative might be the best approach because they'll have other work to fill gaps and be able to more easily shuffle dev time around to meet tight timelines. That can be a real win-win. But you'll still have to buy them pizza and beer from time to time to fend off others vying for their skills. Enjoy the summer everyone! On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Michael Schurter wrote: > Hi Pythoneers! > > I was chatting with a friend at a design agency who was really frustrated > with how hard it was to find a Django contractor in Portland (hopefully > more details on that opportunity coming soon). > > It's not a permanent position, so buying pizza for the meetup just to get a > contractor seems a little excessive. Is our mailing list the only other > option? Do people find job postings to this list helpful (either an > employer or employee)? > > Also, I'd love to see http://pdxpython.org get some love (perhaps from some > kind webdevs at a monthly hack night?). The Meetup page is pretty inviting > for people wishing to attend meetups, but the wiki is pretty frightening > for people curious about the Portland Python community in general - > especially since it's had a big red warning at the top since January! > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland From freyley at gmail.com Wed Aug 21 07:10:27 2013 From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber) Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 22:10:27 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> References: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> Message-ID: I'd prefer to link to something like silicon florist jobs than duplicate the effort and water down a local resource or make employers post more times. *shrug* Unless there's something wrong with them? I've never used them personally. Jeff On Aug 20, 2013 10:05 PM, "Thomas Hamlin" wrote: > I no longer respond to job offers if they do not come with pizza or beer. > Preferably both. :o > > But seriously. I'm never offended when someone posts jobs here, and we've > done so for my employer (cloudboltsoftware.com). There are other > channels that likely work better, though. > > Small projects are definitely tough to staff up and I think developing a > long-term relationship with a small shop/collaborative might be the best > approach because they'll have other work to fill gaps and be able to more > easily shuffle dev time around to meet tight timelines. That can be a real > win-win. But you'll still have to buy them pizza and beer from time to > time to fend off others vying for their skills. > > Enjoy the summer everyone! > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Michael Schurter wrote: > > > Hi Pythoneers! > > > > I was chatting with a friend at a design agency who was really frustrated > > with how hard it was to find a Django contractor in Portland (hopefully > > more details on that opportunity coming soon). > > > > It's not a permanent position, so buying pizza for the meetup just to > get a > > contractor seems a little excessive. Is our mailing list the only other > > option? Do people find job postings to this list helpful (either an > > employer or employee)? > > > > Also, I'd love to see http://pdxpython.org get some love (perhaps from > some > > kind webdevs at a monthly hack night?). 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URL: From matt.foster.c at gmail.com Thu Aug 22 00:07:40 2013 From: matt.foster.c at gmail.com (Matt Foster) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:07:40 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: References: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> Message-ID: Hey, Matt here. I'm helping coordinate the Django pdxpython.org project at hack nights. I can see the pros and cons of a Python specific jobs board. I do tend to think duplication of effort is not good. Maybe we can build something that serves a different purpose? Our community has a genuine interest in mentorship and I think a board to connect new Pythonistas and Djangonauts with skill building opportunities would be a great help. It may be best to stipulate open source projects only to avoid any exploitation. What do you all think? Also, regarding it being hard to find Python / Django contractors in Portland, throw those jobs up on this list! I check here on a regular basis as do a few contractors I know. I also try to forward projects to other devs in my network who I think would be a good fit. Thanks!! On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > I'd prefer to link to something like silicon florist jobs than duplicate > the effort and water down a local resource or make employers post more > times. *shrug* > > Unless there's something wrong with them? I've never used them personally. > > Jeff > On Aug 20, 2013 10:05 PM, "Thomas Hamlin" wrote: > > > I no longer respond to job offers if they do not come with pizza or beer. > > Preferably both. :o > > > > But seriously. I'm never offended when someone posts jobs here, and > we've > > done so for my employer (cloudboltsoftware.com). There are other > > channels that likely work better, though. > > > > Small projects are definitely tough to staff up and I think developing a > > long-term relationship with a small shop/collaborative might be the best > > approach because they'll have other work to fill gaps and be able to more > > easily shuffle dev time around to meet tight timelines. That can be a > real > > win-win. But you'll still have to buy them pizza and beer from time to > > time to fend off others vying for their skills. > > > > Enjoy the summer everyone! > > > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Michael Schurter wrote: > > > > > Hi Pythoneers! > > > > > > I was chatting with a friend at a design agency who was really > frustrated > > > with how hard it was to find a Django contractor in Portland (hopefully > > > more details on that opportunity coming soon). > > > > > > It's not a permanent position, so buying pizza for the meetup just to > > get a > > > contractor seems a little excessive. Is our mailing list the only other > > > option? Do people find job postings to this list helpful (either an > > > employer or employee)? > > > > > > Also, I'd love to see http://pdxpython.org get some love (perhaps from > > some > > > kind webdevs at a monthly hack night?). The Meetup page is pretty > > inviting > > > for people wishing to attend meetups, but the wiki is pretty > frightening > > > for people curious about the Portland Python community in general - > > > especially since it's had a big red warning at the top since January! > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130820/dee8e192/attachment.html > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Portland mailing list > > > Portland at python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130820/7c48f01c/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michelle at pdxpython.org Thu Aug 22 00:20:42 2013 From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:20:42 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: References: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> Message-ID: Hey Matt, On the subject of a mentorship board, we're planning to build something like that for the new Code Scouts platform. It wouldn't be Python/Django specific, but would of course have search options. In the spirit of not duplicating efforts, maybe you'd be interested in chatting with Andrew about how to work together? (That would be awesome!!!) Thanks! Michelle Michelle Rowley http://www.michellerowley.com/ Organizer, Portland Python User Group Executive Director, Code Scouts On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Matt Foster wrote: > Hey, Matt here. I'm helping coordinate the Django pdxpython.org project at > hack nights. I can see the pros and cons of a Python specific jobs board. I > do tend to think duplication of effort is not good. Maybe we can build > something that serves a different purpose? Our community has a genuine > interest in mentorship and I think a board to connect new Pythonistas and > Djangonauts with skill building opportunities would be a great help. It may > be best to stipulate open source projects only to avoid any exploitation. > What do you all think? > > Also, regarding it being hard to find Python / Django contractors in > Portland, throw those jobs up on this list! I check here on a regular basis > as do a few contractors I know. I also try to forward projects to other > devs in my network who I think would be a good fit. > > Thanks!! > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > > > I'd prefer to link to something like silicon florist jobs than duplicate > > the effort and water down a local resource or make employers post more > > times. *shrug* > > > > Unless there's something wrong with them? I've never used them > personally. > > > > Jeff > > On Aug 20, 2013 10:05 PM, "Thomas Hamlin" > wrote: > > > > > I no longer respond to job offers if they do not come with pizza or > beer. > > > Preferably both. :o > > > > > > But seriously. I'm never offended when someone posts jobs here, and > > we've > > > done so for my employer (cloudboltsoftware.com). There are other > > > channels that likely work better, though. > > > > > > Small projects are definitely tough to staff up and I think developing > a > > > long-term relationship with a small shop/collaborative might be the > best > > > approach because they'll have other work to fill gaps and be able to > more > > > easily shuffle dev time around to meet tight timelines. That can be a > > real > > > win-win. But you'll still have to buy them pizza and beer from time to > > > time to fend off others vying for their skills. > > > > > > Enjoy the summer everyone! > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Michael Schurter wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Pythoneers! > > > > > > > > I was chatting with a friend at a design agency who was really > > frustrated > > > > with how hard it was to find a Django contractor in Portland > (hopefully > > > > more details on that opportunity coming soon). > > > > > > > > It's not a permanent position, so buying pizza for the meetup just to > > > get a > > > > contractor seems a little excessive. Is our mailing list the only > other > > > > option? Do people find job postings to this list helpful (either an > > > > employer or employee)? > > > > > > > > Also, I'd love to see http://pdxpython.org get some love (perhaps > from > > > some > > > > kind webdevs at a monthly hack night?). The Meetup page is pretty > > > inviting > > > > for people wishing to attend meetups, but the wiki is pretty > > frightening > > > > for people curious about the Portland Python community in general - > > > > especially since it's had a big red warning at the top since January! > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > URL: < > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130820/dee8e192/attachment.html > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Portland mailing list > > > > Portland at python.org > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Portland mailing list > > > Portland at python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130820/7c48f01c/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130821/ffb48bec/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt.foster.c at gmail.com Thu Aug 22 00:37:18 2013 From: matt.foster.c at gmail.com (Matt Foster) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:37:18 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: References: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> Message-ID: Ha! Thanks for the heads up Michelle. Sounds cool! I'll talk to Andrew. -Matt On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Michelle Rowley wrote: > Hey Matt, > > On the subject of a mentorship board, we're planning to build something > like that for the new Code Scouts platform. It wouldn't be Python/Django > specific, but would of course have search options. > > In the spirit of not duplicating efforts, maybe you'd be interested in > chatting with Andrew about how to work together? (That would be awesome!!!) > > Thanks! > Michelle > > Michelle Rowley > http://www.michellerowley.com/ > Organizer, Portland Python User Group > Executive Director, Code Scouts > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Matt Foster >wrote: > > > Hey, Matt here. I'm helping coordinate the Django pdxpython.org project > at > > hack nights. I can see the pros and cons of a Python specific jobs > board. I > > do tend to think duplication of effort is not good. Maybe we can build > > something that serves a different purpose? Our community has a genuine > > interest in mentorship and I think a board to connect new Pythonistas and > > Djangonauts with skill building opportunities would be a great help. It > may > > be best to stipulate open source projects only to avoid any exploitation. > > What do you all think? > > > > Also, regarding it being hard to find Python / Django contractors in > > Portland, throw those jobs up on this list! I check here on a regular > basis > > as do a few contractors I know. I also try to forward projects to other > > devs in my network who I think would be a good fit. > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 10:10 PM, Jeff Schwaber > wrote: > > > > > I'd prefer to link to something like silicon florist jobs than > duplicate > > > the effort and water down a local resource or make employers post more > > > times. *shrug* > > > > > > Unless there's something wrong with them? I've never used them > > personally. > > > > > > Jeff > > > On Aug 20, 2013 10:05 PM, "Thomas Hamlin" > > wrote: > > > > > > > I no longer respond to job offers if they do not come with pizza or > > beer. > > > > Preferably both. :o > > > > > > > > But seriously. I'm never offended when someone posts jobs here, and > > > we've > > > > done so for my employer (cloudboltsoftware.com). There are other > > > > channels that likely work better, though. > > > > > > > > Small projects are definitely tough to staff up and I think > developing > > a > > > > long-term relationship with a small shop/collaborative might be the > > best > > > > approach because they'll have other work to fill gaps and be able to > > more > > > > easily shuffle dev time around to meet tight timelines. That can be > a > > > real > > > > win-win. But you'll still have to buy them pizza and beer from time > to > > > > time to fend off others vying for their skills. > > > > > > > > Enjoy the summer everyone! > > > > > > > > On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:37 PM, Michael Schurter wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Pythoneers! > > > > > > > > > > I was chatting with a friend at a design agency who was really > > > frustrated > > > > > with how hard it was to find a Django contractor in Portland > > (hopefully > > > > > more details on that opportunity coming soon). > > > > > > > > > > It's not a permanent position, so buying pizza for the meetup just > to > > > > get a > > > > > contractor seems a little excessive. Is our mailing list the only > > other > > > > > option? Do people find job postings to this list helpful (either an > > > > > employer or employee)? > > > > > > > > > > Also, I'd love to see http://pdxpython.org get some love (perhaps > > from > > > > some > > > > > kind webdevs at a monthly hack night?). The Meetup page is pretty > > > > inviting > > > > > for people wishing to attend meetups, but the wiki is pretty > > > frightening > > > > > for people curious about the Portland Python community in general - > > > > > especially since it's had a big red warning at the top since > January! > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > > > URL: < > > > > > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130820/dee8e192/attachment.html > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Portland mailing list > > > > > Portland at python.org > > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Portland mailing list > > > > Portland at python.org > > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130820/7c48f01c/attachment.html > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Portland mailing list > > > Portland at python.org > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > > > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130821/ffb48bec/attachment.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Portland mailing list > > Portland at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.python.org/pipermail/portland/attachments/20130821/ca2521ba/attachment.html > > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From freyley at gmail.com Thu Aug 22 18:10:25 2013 From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 09:10:25 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: References: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> Message-ID: On Aug 21, 2013 3:08 PM, "Matt Foster" wrote: > > Hey, Matt here. I'm helping coordinate the Django pdxpython.org project at > hack nights. I can see the pros and cons of a Python specific jobs board. I > do tend to think duplication of effort is not good. Maybe we can build > something that serves a different purpose? Our community has a genuine > interest in mentorship and I think a board to connect new Pythonistas and > Djangonauts with skill building opportunities would be a great help. It may > be best to stipulate open source projects only to avoid any exploitation. > What do you all think? Might be worth looking at epdx.com mentorships and see if that's still in use and link to them rather than build a python specific one, especially as cross language mentorship seems particularly helpful. It sounds like a new python website could do a lot to hook python people into the broader portland tech community. And maybe encourage more broadly available resources for the tech community. Could we build something that could run other user group websites if they wanted too? An example : I'm sure everyone here knows of Code Scouts because of Michelle, but it'd be good to link to on the website, and even better if all the user groups linked to it. Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From howard.abrams at workday.com Thu Aug 22 20:16:04 2013 From: howard.abrams at workday.com (Howard Abrams) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:16:04 +0000 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: References: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> Message-ID: <917BEED3-FAB2-492A-ACDA-65073F981C22@workday.com> I believe it is epdx.org ? not .com. On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > On Aug 21, 2013 3:08 PM, "Matt Foster" wrote: >> >> Hey, Matt here. I'm helping coordinate the Django pdxpython.org project at >> hack nights. I can see the pros and cons of a Python specific jobs board. > I >> do tend to think duplication of effort is not good. Maybe we can build >> something that serves a different purpose? Our community has a genuine >> interest in mentorship and I think a board to connect new Pythonistas and >> Djangonauts with skill building opportunities would be a great help. It > may >> be best to stipulate open source projects only to avoid any exploitation. >> What do you all think? > > Might be worth looking at epdx.com mentorships and see if that's still in > use and link to them rather than build a python specific one, especially as > cross language mentorship seems particularly helpful. > > It sounds like a new python website could do a lot to hook python people > into the broader portland tech community. And maybe encourage more broadly > available resources for the tech community. Could we build something that > could run other user group websites if they wanted too? > > An example : I'm sure everyone here knows of Code Scouts because of > Michelle, but it'd be good to link to on the website, and even better if > all the user groups linked to it. > > Jeff > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3766 bytes Desc: not available URL: From howard.abrams at workday.com Fri Aug 23 01:14:39 2013 From: howard.abrams at workday.com (Howard Abrams) Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 23:14:39 +0000 Subject: [portland] Wanna program Python in the Cloud? Message-ID: Hi, I'm new to Python and the Portland Python community, and am unsure of the protocol for discussing job opportunities... however, if you are interested in working on OpenStack Techologies and Python for a fun, vibrant company, then I've got a job for you... I'm currently wrapping up OpenStack as a private cloud solution to encapsulate business logic and present a better user experience, and could really use some team-mates. While knowledge of OpenStack is not required, ability to work in an agile environment with a test-focused development style is a must. While the company headquarters are in Pleasanton, our team is split between California, Portland and Dublin. Please, introduce yourself to me at howard.abrams workday com Thanks, Howard Abrams -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3766 bytes Desc: not available URL: From howard.abrams at gmail.com Sat Aug 24 23:56:15 2013 From: howard.abrams at gmail.com (Howard Abrams) Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 14:56:15 -0700 Subject: [portland] Mentoring Offer Message-ID: <313D827E-4A5C-4A5E-9BCD-8E48143D26A8@gmail.com> Regarding the "mentoring" discussion we've been having, I notice that the ePDX has this link for "groups" that use the word mentoring: http://epdx.org/groups/tag/mentoring However, that doesn't seem too helpful. I mean, when I was just starting out in this industry, I would loved to have glommed onto a gray-haired mentor for advice, but now that I have the gray hair, I'm not sure how to help. On one hand, someone can crowd-source a huge amount of online advice, but that information is too general and impersonal. On the other hand, the idea of a mentor that gets to know someone well enough to give particular advice requires a time investment few of us have. Still, this seems like a worth-while idea. Part of me has thought about creating a site that connects mentors with particular experience and mentees with specific interests, but I'm not sure how that would come out as little more than an odd, dating site. Yeah, I did sign up on CodeScouts a few months ago, but I think everyone there is pretty busy and I haven't heard back, so I'm just going to throw out this idea? If you are interested in grabbing a series of coffees or Skype chats with someone who taught himself to program from a TRS-80 manual in 1980 and has been programming every day since, who learned functional programming in Scheme before it was trendy, who's bread and butter has been enterprise software and web applications, and who has been involved in the Portland Startup Community for 15 years, let me know. Howard Abrams www.howardism.org @howardabrams From michael.schurter at gmail.com Wed Aug 28 06:24:05 2013 From: michael.schurter at gmail.com (Michael Schurter) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 21:24:05 -0700 Subject: [portland] Job Board/Postings In-Reply-To: <917BEED3-FAB2-492A-ACDA-65073F981C22@workday.com> References: <901D9EC0-667A-4441-8734-5FF7078D84F2@metaphorlab.com> <917BEED3-FAB2-492A-ACDA-65073F981C22@workday.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the great feedback everyone, and I'm excited to hear there are already people working on a new pdxpython site! I'll let my friend know this is a valid place to post contracting gigs, but I do hope the pdxpython is able to leverage some of the already great resources mentioned in this thread for gigs/mentoring. The more that communities like ours link to those resources the easier they will be to find by all! Thanks again. On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Howard Abrams wrote: > I believe it is epdx.org ? not .com. > > On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:10 AM, Jeff Schwaber wrote: > >> On Aug 21, 2013 3:08 PM, "Matt Foster" wrote: >>> >>> Hey, Matt here. I'm helping coordinate the Django pdxpython.org project at >>> hack nights. I can see the pros and cons of a Python specific jobs board. >> I >>> do tend to think duplication of effort is not good. Maybe we can build >>> something that serves a different purpose? Our community has a genuine >>> interest in mentorship and I think a board to connect new Pythonistas and >>> Djangonauts with skill building opportunities would be a great help. It >> may >>> be best to stipulate open source projects only to avoid any exploitation. >>> What do you all think? >> >> Might be worth looking at epdx.com mentorships and see if that's still in >> use and link to them rather than build a python specific one, especially as >> cross language mentorship seems particularly helpful. >> >> It sounds like a new python website could do a lot to hook python people >> into the broader portland tech community. And maybe encourage more broadly >> available resources for the tech community. Could we build something that >> could run other user group websites if they wanted too? >> >> An example : I'm sure everyone here knows of Code Scouts because of >> Michelle, but it'd be good to link to on the website, and even better if >> all the user groups linked to it. >> >> Jeff >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> _______________________________________________ >> Portland mailing list >> Portland at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: smime.p7s > Type: application/pkcs7-signature > Size: 3766 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland