From Dan.Heilman at dealertrack.com  Thu Aug  2 21:33:56 2012
From: Dan.Heilman at dealertrack.com (Dan Heilman)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:33:56 -0700
Subject: [portland] Python/Django Developer wanted
Message-ID: <48D9E4766F6D3047834060E0A01BA6CD0A7B6A4E@pdxmsx02.chrome.dt.inc>

I have several openings for Python/Djanjo developers for a NEW scrum
team.  Here's the job description below, but essentially, if you want to
participate in the development of a new product from the ground up and
don't mind working on a legit scrum team and working to build some
really cool technologies that thousands of people will use, I hope you
will consider working for DealerTrack.   Positions are available
immediately!  Feel safe submitting your resume if you are curious, don't
worry, I'm not a recruiter:   dan.heilman at dealertrack.com


Python/Django Software Engineer

Position Summary

Analysis of business requirements; architecture and design of software
systems; coding; code review; unit and system testing; versatility with
multiple technologies; ability to quickly learn and use new
technologies; troubleshooting of difficult problems; expertise with the
software lifecycle; scoping and estimation of projects; and writing of
technical documentation. Coordinates work with business,QA and other
teams including offshore. Communication with technical management and
other departments; reporting of status and risks; and working
effectively with internal partners; provider technical guidance to less
experienced peers. Works under minimal supervision; provided with
assignments and objectives and given wide latitude for independent
judgment.  Can be relied on to meet deadlines with high quality
deliverables.

The responsibilities may include the following:
* Researching existing Open Source solutions and recommending for
possible adaptation for DealerTrack software platform

Required Knowledge and Skills

* Knowledge of one of more Open Source web development frameworks such
as 
o Experience with Python / Django is a must
o Experience with Java technologies is a definite plus
o Experience building and using Web Services 
o Experience with jBoss, Tomcat or other Java Application Servers is a
plus
o Knowledge of Oracle or DB2 is a plus.
o Knowledge of no SQL databases a plus
* Ability and desire to learn new skills and technologies is very
important
* Self-Starter
* Proficiency in object oriented design and development
* Experience using development tools include source control (SVN, Git,
Mercurial), IDEs, and defect tracking tools


Required Education and Experience
Bachelors Degree in Computer Science and/or related field and/or
equivalent experience: 2-3+ years of related work experience.



From teknotus at gmail.com  Sat Aug  4 00:24:41 2012
From: teknotus at gmail.com (Daniel Johnson)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:24:41 -0700
Subject: [portland] Codecademy now includes python
Message-ID: <CA+nDE0ihzUgNHc+Bx=f617dyHzYAOjfSmRm4CgmK1ZXaxRLh0A@mail.gmail.com>

Looks pretty neat. Haven't played with it much yet.

http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/python

From emily at zubon.org  Sat Aug  4 00:26:32 2012
From: emily at zubon.org (Emily Strickland)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:26:32 -0700
Subject: [portland] Codecademy now includes python
In-Reply-To: <CA+nDE0ihzUgNHc+Bx=f617dyHzYAOjfSmRm4CgmK1ZXaxRLh0A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+nDE0ihzUgNHc+Bx=f617dyHzYAOjfSmRm4CgmK1ZXaxRLh0A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAP5xnfSTakLPc5TcceNRbDDA-gNAH=hVpy3pBhSt7cE=kkzEsg@mail.gmail.com>

I've been curious about the thoughts of people who have actually learned
using this.

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Daniel Johnson <teknotus at gmail.com> wrote:

> Looks pretty neat. Haven't played with it much yet.
>
> http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/python
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>



-- 
Emily Strickland
emily at zubon.org
706-363-0950
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From fstorr at gmail.com  Sat Aug  4 00:42:19 2012
From: fstorr at gmail.com (Francis Storr)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 15:42:19 -0700
Subject: [portland] Codecademy now includes python
In-Reply-To: <CAP5xnfSTakLPc5TcceNRbDDA-gNAH=hVpy3pBhSt7cE=kkzEsg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+nDE0ihzUgNHc+Bx=f617dyHzYAOjfSmRm4CgmK1ZXaxRLh0A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAP5xnfSTakLPc5TcceNRbDDA-gNAH=hVpy3pBhSt7cE=kkzEsg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGRbGuXwhv6EEY355bteEox1cCdQ5JGYuNsiLH99mj-hUxya3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

Python noob here (I've been learning it for about five weeks in my spare
time)

Codecademy can be pretty annoying, for instance some code they've recently
changed has made the site painful to use in a webkit browser. I, and
others, have found that pages need numerous refreshes before you can
successfully submit code.

I played around with their JavaScript examples at the end of the year and
got disheartened after a month or so. Examples and requirements were badly
explained, which meant it was incredibly frustrating to try to move through
the course as you'd write code according to what you thought they wanted,
which was often wrong. Right now, I'm trying the Python course because I'm
getting frustrated with Learn Python The Hard Way (I really do not have the
patience to type out his lengthy game examples, and I'm finding his
explanations/support getting worse as the book progresses). I'm curious to
see how it's going to progress. If it sucks, I'll go hunt for a new book.

Cheers

Francis

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Emily Strickland <emily at zubon.org> wrote:

> I've been curious about the thoughts of people who have actually learned
> using this.
>
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Daniel Johnson <teknotus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Looks pretty neat. Haven't played with it much yet.
> >
> > http://www.codecademy.com/tracks/python
> > _______________________________________________
> > Portland mailing list
> > Portland at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
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>
>
>
> --
> Emily Strickland
> emily at zubon.org
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From jeffw at mbg.com  Mon Aug  6 22:47:29 2012
From: jeffw at mbg.com (Jeffrey Weintraub)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:47:29 +0000
Subject: [portland] Python / Django Opportunity in close-in Portland, OR
Message-ID: <98E5FBA82B4FD84B910BEB7FC3B703353D79EDFF@MBX242.domain.local>

Hello Pythonistas!

I represent a Portland client that has an immediate need for a Python Developer / Software Engineer


Location is close-in Portland, OR - This is a contract to hire opportunity

Python development skills and true software engineering chops are a must have

Django experience is very, very nice to have

Agile / SCRUM experience nice to have

Web Services experience is nice to have

Please email me at jeffw at mbg.com<mailto:jeffw at mbg.com> - thank you!

Jeff Weintraub
Recruiting Lead
The Mainz Brady Group

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From mrowley at gmail.com  Tue Aug 14 19:33:09 2012
From: mrowley at gmail.com (Michelle Rowley)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 10:33:09 -0700
Subject: [portland] Meeting tonight...
Message-ID: <CAE7UraMpUK0eBKdVGZby9ruCO8cqc2d-_QLjp_jehiq0GRCJmA@mail.gmail.com>

And it's gonna be awesome! We have a Kenneth-oriented double header and
pizza from Trap.it (http://trap.it/#!about/jobs).

Details, and please RSVP: http://www.meetup.com/pdxpython/events/70136462

See you tonight!
Michelle
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From Ron at FascinatingElectronics.com  Wed Aug 15 06:48:32 2012
From: Ron at FascinatingElectronics.com (Ron Jackson)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 21:48:32 -0700
Subject: [portland] Looking for advice on a project at Python Hack Night
	Wednesday
Message-ID: <CAG65avPHt4s+SZzjfKhR=gy2mwnGqQBXef+0Vo1a7XYfPwLD=g@mail.gmail.com>

I'm working on a series of electronic kits for robotics that connect
to a host computer through a USB port and enable it to read sensors
and control motors. The first kit measures eight analog and
counter/timer sensor inputs, while controlling the position, speed and
acceleration of up to 16 servos. The servos are optically isolated
from the rest of the circuitry, and there are several other neat
features.

I've written a couple of python programs to demo the board, and a USB
serial communications library (a  simpler PySerial). I'd like the code
to be as readable and useful as possible.

I'm looking for a python expert who could look over my code and make
suggestions for improvements. I'd also like to create GUI versions of
my demo applications using wxPython, so I'd appreciate some advice on
how best to do that.

If you would like to look over my code or are just curious about what
I'm doing feel free to stop by. I'll be the guy with the sixteen
servos at the meeting.

  -- Ron Jackson

From micah at quixotix.com  Wed Aug 15 18:39:09 2012
From: micah at quixotix.com (Micah Carrick)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:39:09 -0700
Subject: [portland] Looking for advice on a project at Python Hack Night
	Wednesday
In-Reply-To: <CAG65avPHt4s+SZzjfKhR=gy2mwnGqQBXef+0Vo1a7XYfPwLD=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG65avPHt4s+SZzjfKhR=gy2mwnGqQBXef+0Vo1a7XYfPwLD=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKKG6yoRQLB+ypMj9aciXWoHQBYm2deFQ_4j-ppRNxBG963h7A@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Ron,

That sounds super cool and I'm hoping I can make it tonight to check out
your project.

It's a little bit funny in fact, because last week I was working on
something similar. I was thinking along the lines of simple Python code,
running on a Raspberry Pi, being able to control various AVR-based robotics
boards over USB (I was hoping to play with FTDI's newer USB to SPI chips
once I get my eval board).

I've started a simple dual DC motor controller as a proof of concept. For
now I'm using PySerial to communicate with the AVR on top of a Python/GTK+
GUI. I've still got some work to do, but, I have a screenshot of the GTK+
GUI at http://static.micahcarrick.com/media/images/avr-motor-controller.png

Hopefully I can make it out. If not then we'll have to catch up and talk
robots at another meeting.

Cheers,

- Micah


On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Ron Jackson <Ron at fascinatingelectronics.com
> wrote:

> I'm working on a series of electronic kits for robotics that connect
> to a host computer through a USB port and enable it to read sensors
> and control motors. The first kit measures eight analog and
> counter/timer sensor inputs, while controlling the position, speed and
> acceleration of up to 16 servos. The servos are optically isolated
> from the rest of the circuitry, and there are several other neat
> features.
>
> I've written a couple of python programs to demo the board, and a USB
> serial communications library (a  simpler PySerial). I'd like the code
> to be as readable and useful as possible.
>
> I'm looking for a python expert who could look over my code and make
> suggestions for improvements. I'd also like to create GUI versions of
> my demo applications using wxPython, so I'd appreciate some advice on
> how best to do that.
>
> If you would like to look over my code or are just curious about what
> I'm doing feel free to stop by. I'll be the guy with the sixteen
> servos at the meeting.
>
>   -- Ron Jackson
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>



-- 
- Micah Carrick <micah at quixotix.com>
  Senior Software Nerd

  *Quixotix, LLC*
*  **Foolishly Idealistic*
*  *Portland, OR
  http://quixotix.com
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From robin at alldunn.com  Wed Aug 15 18:57:52 2012
From: robin at alldunn.com (Robin Dunn)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 09:57:52 -0700
Subject: [portland] Looking for advice on a project at Python Hack Night
 Wednesday
In-Reply-To: <CAG65avPHt4s+SZzjfKhR=gy2mwnGqQBXef+0Vo1a7XYfPwLD=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG65avPHt4s+SZzjfKhR=gy2mwnGqQBXef+0Vo1a7XYfPwLD=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <502BD510.7050702@alldunn.com>

On 8/14/12 9:48 PM, Ron Jackson wrote:
> I'd also like to create GUI versions of
> my demo applications using wxPython, so I'd appreciate some advice on
> how best to do that.

Get on the wxPython-users mail list[1], there are usually lots of people 
there who are happy to help with questions and such, including me. 
There are also several tutorials and how-to's either on the wiki[2] or 
linked to from there.  This one[3] is particularly good. And the 
wxPython demo is also a great way to learn since it lets you edit and 
experiment with the code for each sample within the demo application itself.

[1] http://groups.google.com/group/wxpython-users
[2] http://wiki.wxpython.org/
[3] http://www.zetcode.com/wxpython/

-- 
Robin Dunn
Software Craftsman
http://wxPython.org


From Ron at FascinatingElectronics.com  Wed Aug 15 22:25:55 2012
From: Ron at FascinatingElectronics.com (Ron Jackson)
Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:25:55 -0700
Subject: [portland] Looking for advice on a project at Python Hack Night
	Wednesday
In-Reply-To: <CAKKG6yoRQLB+ypMj9aciXWoHQBYm2deFQ_4j-ppRNxBG963h7A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG65avPHt4s+SZzjfKhR=gy2mwnGqQBXef+0Vo1a7XYfPwLD=g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKKG6yoRQLB+ypMj9aciXWoHQBYm2deFQ_4j-ppRNxBG963h7A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAG65avPujok9R-VubDCefMaGGsXyS63Lh0ZUS_YsT8DPHQG=Bw@mail.gmail.com>

Micah,

I'd like to see what you've come up with. The Raspberry Pi is an
interesting little board.

  -- Ron

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Micah Carrick <micah at quixotix.com> wrote:
> Hey Ron,
>
> That sounds super cool and I'm hoping I can make it tonight to check out
> your project.
>
> It's a little bit funny in fact, because last week I was working on
> something similar. I was thinking along the lines of simple Python code,
> running on a Raspberry Pi, being able to control various AVR-based robotics
> boards over USB (I was hoping to play with FTDI's newer USB to SPI chips
> once I get my eval board).
>
> I've started a simple dual DC motor controller as a proof of concept. For
> now I'm using PySerial to communicate with the AVR on top of a Python/GTK+
> GUI. I've still got some work to do, but, I have a screenshot of the GTK+
> GUI at http://static.micahcarrick.com/media/images/avr-motor-controller.png
>
> Hopefully I can make it out. If not then we'll have to catch up and talk
> robots at another meeting.
>
> Cheers,
>
> - Micah
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Ron Jackson <Ron at fascinatingelectronics.com
>> wrote:
>
>> I'm working on a series of electronic kits for robotics that connect
>> to a host computer through a USB port and enable it to read sensors
>> and control motors. The first kit measures eight analog and
>> counter/timer sensor inputs, while controlling the position, speed and
>> acceleration of up to 16 servos. The servos are optically isolated
>> from the rest of the circuitry, and there are several other neat
>> features.
>>
>> I've written a couple of python programs to demo the board, and a USB
>> serial communications library (a  simpler PySerial). I'd like the code
>> to be as readable and useful as possible.
>>
>> I'm looking for a python expert who could look over my code and make
>> suggestions for improvements. I'd also like to create GUI versions of
>> my demo applications using wxPython, so I'd appreciate some advice on
>> how best to do that.
>>
>> If you would like to look over my code or are just curious about what
>> I'm doing feel free to stop by. I'll be the guy with the sixteen
>> servos at the meeting.
>>
>>   -- Ron Jackson
>> _______________________________________________
>> Portland mailing list
>> Portland at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>>
>
>
>
> --
> - Micah Carrick <micah at quixotix.com>
>   Senior Software Nerd
>
>   *Quixotix, LLC*
> *  **Foolishly Idealistic*
> *  *Portland, OR
>   http://quixotix.com
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From kenneth at gigantuan.net  Thu Aug 16 20:48:04 2012
From: kenneth at gigantuan.net (Kenneth Love)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2012 11:48:04 -0700
Subject: [portland] Could I get some feedback, please?
Message-ID: <0D419D92-3C96-4881-93FC-D5DADB4B905B@gigantuan.net>

First off, thanks for letting me speak a couple of nights ago. It was great to get to practice my DjangoCon talk to a larger audience.

I've attached a link to my slides and would love to have your feedback on what I could explain better, what I should include or remove, and any other notes on the actual performance of the talk.

Slides are here: http://d.pr/f/TJ5v

Thanks!

Kenneth


From michelle at pdxpython.org  Wed Aug 29 19:19:36 2012
From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:19:36 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31, 7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
Message-ID: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

I'm putting together a coup for newbie Django developers at the MusicFestNW
Music Hack Day a week from Saturday (http://calagator.org/events/1250462748).
What I'd like to put together is a very simple Django app that uses a
couple music-related APIs. Using the app, I will give lessons about how the
internet works, what an API is, what a web framework is, etc. I have some
ideas for different small projects...

What I really need is some help hacking this up. Won't you come over to PIE
this Friday evening and lend a hand? There is beer! I was going to get some
pizza, but as it turns out I can't afford pizza. So there will be beer, and
I'll get some chips and stuff.

Let me know if you're interested/available. Thank you!
Michelle
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From teknotus at gmail.com  Wed Aug 29 20:22:13 2012
From: teknotus at gmail.com (Daniel Johnson)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:22:13 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
In-Reply-To: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+nDE0j4frD76FvVSxCu2W21qmJOWeoEPFK60NDWMEaHe4ZwGQ@mail.gmail.com>

> What I really need is some help hacking this up. Won't you come over to PIE
> this Friday evening and lend a hand?

I'm interested, and probably have time.

From keturn at keturn.net  Thu Aug 30 00:11:42 2012
From: keturn at keturn.net (Kevin Turner)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:11:42 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
In-Reply-To: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346278302.21828.140661121267397.3547FA70@webmail.messagingengine.com>

I'm not sure how much hack I'll have left in me at 7pm on a Friday, but
I'll join you and find out.

From keturn at keturn.net  Thu Aug 30 00:45:35 2012
From: keturn at keturn.net (Kevin Turner)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:45:35 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
In-Reply-To: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346280335.28237.140661121273441.589D10E8@webmail.messagingengine.com>

but why Django?  In my mind, Django seems as far removed from Music Hack
as anything.
(Although I did catch Adrian Holovaty's talk on "Extracting Musical
Information from Sound" at pycon this year:
http://pyvideo.org/video/878/extracting-musical-information-from-sound
and I hear he has something to do with Django.)

If you have project ideas already though, you must have made them
connect somehow.

From michelle at pdxpython.org  Thu Aug 30 00:53:14 2012
From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 15:53:14 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
In-Reply-To: <1346280335.28237.140661121273441.589D10E8@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1346280335.28237.140661121273441.589D10E8@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <CAE7UraMwfbPa+A7jmSQnyFK1BdoVgqk74ppEwhzr9iUw3DW9XA@mail.gmail.com>

Django makes it easy to have a real, functional website while isolating
what we'd actually be doing with the newbies into a view. They could see
their work in the ultimate form that they might want to learn to execute in
the future but only have to learn a little bit about it at first.

Does that make sense? Django would be the scaffolding within which we could
see the actual result of using one of these APIs (Rdio, EchoNest, Spotify,
etc), as opposed to just making a script that spit back results in text. A
new programmer can't get as much context of what that's actually useful
for, whereas seeing a website with functionality makes it obvious.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Kevin Turner <keturn at keturn.net> wrote:

> but why Django?  In my mind, Django seems as far removed from Music Hack
> as anything.
> (Although I did catch Adrian Holovaty's talk on "Extracting Musical
> Information from Sound" at pycon this year:
> http://pyvideo.org/video/878/extracting-musical-information-from-sound
> and I hear he has something to do with Django.)
>
> If you have project ideas already though, you must have made them
> connect somehow.
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>
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From keturn at keturn.net  Thu Aug 30 01:06:01 2012
From: keturn at keturn.net (Kevin Turner)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:06:01 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
In-Reply-To: <CAE7UraMwfbPa+A7jmSQnyFK1BdoVgqk74ppEwhzr9iUw3DW9XA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAE7UraOAD+LeRBLSWNmJ2L7hLtRHjE9sRp2YWSZJjYM4FaXJfQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1346280335.28237.140661121273441.589D10E8@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<CAE7UraMwfbPa+A7jmSQnyFK1BdoVgqk74ppEwhzr9iUw3DW9XA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1346281561.32007.140661121281877.7D6C0AB6@webmail.messagingengine.com>

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 03:53 PM, Michelle Rowley wrote:
> Django makes it easy to have a real, functional website 

Websites are not interfaces for producing or consuming music.

From michelle at pdxpython.org  Thu Aug 30 01:09:39 2012
From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:09:39 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
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Rdio and Spotify are both websites for consuming music. The Hack Day event
is intended to help people hack on projects that use the APIs for these
music-related services. I had chosen this idea of a website that is a
mashup using these services because I think websites are interesting to new
programmers.


On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Kevin Turner <keturn at keturn.net> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 03:53 PM, Michelle Rowley wrote:
> > Django makes it easy to have a real, functional website
>
> Websites are not interfaces for producing or consuming music.
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From ethan at stoneleaf.us  Thu Aug 30 01:28:00 2012
From: ethan at stoneleaf.us (Ethan Furman)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:28:00 -0700
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Kevin Turner wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 03:53 PM, Michelle Rowley wrote:
>> Django makes it easy to have a real, functional website 
> 
> Websites are not interfaces for producing or consuming music.

You're kidding, right?  Just today I was listening to a new album on 
NPR's website, and I find it hard to believe they are the only ones 
providing such a feature.

~Ethan~

From fractalid at gmail.com  Thu Aug 30 01:41:35 2012
From: fractalid at gmail.com (Nathan Miller)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:41:35 -0700
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> Kevin Turner wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 03:53 PM, Michelle Rowley wrote:
>>>
>>> Django makes it easy to have a real, functional website
>>
>>
>> Websites are not interfaces for producing or consuming music.

There are also a great number of web-based synthesizers, sequencers, editors,
algorithmic composition tools, etc...

-n

From fractalid at gmail.com  Thu Aug 30 01:44:03 2012
From: fractalid at gmail.com (Nathan Miller)
Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 16:44:03 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Michelle Rowley
<michelle at pdxpython.org> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I'm putting together a coup for newbie Django developers at the MusicFestNW
> Music Hack Day <snip>
> Let me know if you're interested/available. Thank you!
> Michelle

I'm certainly interested, and will come by if I think I have the energy
to be useful :)

-n

From michelle at pdxpython.org  Thu Aug 30 19:08:11 2012
From: michelle at pdxpython.org (Michelle Rowley)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 10:08:11 -0700
Subject: [portland] This Friday night, 8/31,
	7:00pm: hacking for good at PIE
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Hey guys,

I'm going to postpone this project for now, but I really appreciate all the
offers of help. Friday night is not the best night for a hack like this,
for obvious reasons that escaped me when I planned it. :)

I would like to plan a hackathon to make small projects for new
Pythonistas, so look for details on that in the next couple months if
you're interested!

Michelle

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Nathan Miller <fractalid at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Michelle Rowley
> <michelle at pdxpython.org> wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I'm putting together a coup for newbie Django developers at the
> MusicFestNW
> > Music Hack Day <snip>
> > Let me know if you're interested/available. Thank you!
> > Michelle
>
> I'm certainly interested, and will come by if I think I have the energy
> to be useful :)
>
> -n
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From selena at chesnok.com  Thu Aug 30 01:57:20 2012
From: selena at chesnok.com (Selena Deckelmann)
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:57:20 +0200
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:28 AM, Ethan Furman <ethan at stoneleaf.us> wrote:
> Kevin Turner wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2012, at 03:53 PM, Michelle Rowley wrote:
>>>
>>> Django makes it easy to have a real, functional website
>>
>>
>> Websites are not interfaces for producing or consuming music.
>
>
> You're kidding, right?  Just today I was listening to a new album on NPR's
> website, and I find it hard to believe they are the only ones providing such
> a feature.

OpenTape (http://opentape.fm/) and This is my Jam
(http://www.thisismyjam.com/selenamarie) are two of my favorite
examples of web-based music sharing.

-selena


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