From jek at discorporate.us Mon Dec 1 17:30:34 2008 From: jek at discorporate.us (jason kirtland) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:30:34 -0800 Subject: [portland] Next Meeting: Winter Coders Social 2008! Message-ID: <4934112A.6060502@discorporate.us> Join your fellow Pythonistas and hackers of other persuasions for the 2nd Annual Winter Coders Social! Instead of our regular meeting, user groups from all over Portland are coming together for a winter social with food, games and good times for all. When and Where: Our usual meeting time and place! Tuesday, December 9th, 7-10PM at CubeSpace Maps: http://python.meetup.com/183/ Food: Some beverages will be provided. Potluck signup: http://tinyurl.com/coders-social-potluck-form Current potluck list: http://tinyurl.com/coders-social-potluck-list Fun: We'll be playing games, like last year, so bring 'em! There will be a programming competition! Any language welcome, no particular toolkits or api skills necessary. These'll be problems that just require thought. If enough of you are interested and bring a language that you're only vaguely familiar with, we'll have a separate league for language newbies. Prizes? Bragging rights! Plus a surprise or two. Hope to see you there! PS: We will need a cleanup crew immediately following the party; if you don't have to split right away, we'd appreciate your help. From jek at discorporate.us Tue Dec 9 23:00:24 2008 From: jek at discorporate.us (jason kirtland) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:00:24 -0800 Subject: [portland] Tonight: Winter Coders Social 2008! In-Reply-To: <4934112A.6060502@discorporate.us> References: <4934112A.6060502@discorporate.us> Message-ID: <493EEA78.2030201@discorporate.us> Tonight is the Winter Coders Social! It will be at our usual time and place (CubeSpace, 7pm) except with no presentations, LOTS more folks from other user groups, fun, games, and Beverage provided. Food is pot luck this time around: bring a dish to share. More info in the message below. Hope to see everyone there! Cheers, Jason jason kirtland wrote: > Join your fellow Pythonistas and hackers of other persuasions for the > 2nd Annual Winter Coders Social! Instead of our regular meeting, user > groups from all over Portland are coming together for a winter social > with food, games and good times for all. > > When and Where: > > Our usual meeting time and place! > Tuesday, December 9th, 7-10PM at CubeSpace > Maps: http://python.meetup.com/183/ > > Food: > > Some beverages will be provided. > Potluck signup: http://tinyurl.com/coders-social-potluck-form > Current potluck list: http://tinyurl.com/coders-social-potluck-list > > Fun: > > We'll be playing games, like last year, so bring 'em! > > There will be a programming competition! Any language welcome, no > particular toolkits or api skills necessary. These'll be problems that > just require thought. If enough of you are interested and bring a > language that you're only vaguely familiar with, we'll have a separate > league for language newbies. Prizes? Bragging rights! Plus a surprise > or two. > > Hope to see you there! > > PS: We will need a cleanup crew immediately following the party; if > you don't have to split right away, we'd appreciate your help. > > _______________________________________________ > Portland mailing list > Portland at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland > From kirby.urner at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 23:32:58 2008 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2008 14:32:58 -0800 Subject: [portland] Tonight: Winter Coders Social 2008! In-Reply-To: <493EEA78.2030201@discorporate.us> References: <4934112A.6060502@discorporate.us> <493EEA78.2030201@discorporate.us> Message-ID: Just wanted to say this sounds lovely. My mom, a superstar in some activist circles, is doing a farewell human rights talk at the Linus Pauling House tonight. I'm committed to blogging about it, so I've had to sent my regrets. Lest I waste this opportunity (a post to PPUG), I'll give some updates, stuff I might've mentioned at the party tonight, had I been there. I'll try to be brief (lots going on for me). I'm active on edu-sig per usual in Python community, Guido also weighing in just recently. There's some buzz around my approved workshop for Chicago, which is spun as 'Python for Teachers' but I'm very loose in my interpretation of "teacher" -- basically anyone who needs to teach skills, could be in a corporate, private sector setting, such as mine. More at the Math Forum: http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=1863073&tstart=0 Also, I've been pushing ahead with a project I announced at PPUG a few back, a transparent bookkeeping system for coffee shops, by which I mean you see a lot of the charitable giving right on the LCD screen, fundraising thermometers and so on (lots of coffee shops have LCDs these days). Customers steer with their ethics (and their bellies), one might say, in choosing Red Bull (for example) because .30 goes to Greenpeace (say), or however the managers wire it (lots of consulting action, lots of NGOs coming around with ideas, adding to the buzz (what you want in a coffee shop: buzz)). More here: http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2008/11/wanderers-20081119.html Not saying there's a lot of source code on tap. These days it's all about HR (human resources). We'll get to coding when we've got the right team. Ya'll have a great party now! Kirby On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:00 PM, jason kirtland wrote: > Tonight is the Winter Coders Social! It will be at our usual time and place > (CubeSpace, 7pm) except with no presentations, LOTS more folks from other > user groups, fun, games, and Beverage provided. Food is pot luck this time > around: bring a dish to share. More info in the message below. > > Hope to see everyone there! > > Cheers, > Jason > From kirby.urner at gmail.com Tue Dec 16 20:38:46 2008 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:38:46 -0800 Subject: [portland] Open Source Project (CSN 2012) Message-ID: Just posting a quick update re the paragraph below, where I say it's all about HR, not so much about coding. I think we're on the verge of thinking more about coding, as the voluntary association Coffee Shops Network (CSN) is starting to take form, with positions CTO (csn.cto) and CFO (csn.cfo) likely already filled (offers made to top candidates). I'm thinking the best way to control the ordering screens might be with JQuery and Django, possibly touch sensitive. The idea is you order from your table or back office (like Cubespace) and make charitable giving decisions as a part of your ordering -- which get recorded and served with identity info i.e. it's like a "rewards card" in the sense that market researchers have access to your demographics, if not your street address (might stop at zipcode, a few other data points -- you'll see what gets sent (transaction packets open to scrutiny by the customer in question)). If you want more of your identity revealed to the public, that'll be up to you, some are proud of their track records, want to flaunt 'em, plus helps with recruiting (head hunting), know what you've been up to as a "coffee shop investor" ... "Charitable giving" really just means "desgressionary donating" i.e. a shop owner might configure a menu with pre-selected options, part of that shop's look and feel (Laughing Horse, Fine Grind, Urban Legend...). We'll have to check the law books re donating to political campaigns, but I see no obvious reason we can't do that as well. Basically you get so many "tokens" in exchange for purchases of goods and services through the shop, to be used in the games of your choice, including simple gambling if that's what your into (same as today, minus tokenage). When not ordering, the same screen has a "juke box" front end, meaning access to programming, some of it special to CSN, i.e. you won't see this stuff anywhere else. There's a lot more to it, obviously not appropriate to blather on about here on PPUG, but I would like to think in terms of giving a presentation pretty soon. I'll hold off until I have a working demo of a point of sale device, so we have something to play with. Feel free to contact me off list with any queries or comments. Stay tuned, Kirby > Also, I've been pushing ahead with a project I announced at PPUG a few > back, a transparent bookkeeping system for coffee shops, by which I > mean you see a lot of the charitable giving right on the LCD screen, > fundraising thermometers and so on (lots of coffee shops have LCDs > these days). Customers steer with their ethics (and their bellies), > one might say, in choosing Red Bull (for example) because .30 goes to > Greenpeace (say), or however the managers wire it (lots of consulting > action, lots of NGOs coming around with ideas, adding to the buzz > (what you want in a coffee shop: buzz)). > > More here: > > http://worldgame.blogspot.com/2008/11/wanderers-20081119.html > > Not saying there's a lot of source code on tap. These days it's all > about HR (human resources). We'll get to coding when we've got the > right team. > > Ya'll have a great party now! > > Kirby From tim.j.welch at gmail.com Wed Dec 17 00:21:44 2008 From: tim.j.welch at gmail.com (Tim Welch) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:21:44 -0800 Subject: [portland] FoodHub Marketplace Development Message-ID: <3996251a0812161521p5d357e57p6b59696dc004fe7@mail.gmail.com> Proposals are now being accepted for the development of FoodHub. As a Python/Django developer here at Ecotrust I'd love to see some Django or other proposals come in. What is FoodHub? FoodHub is an online directory and marketplace that makes it easy and efficient for buyers and sellers of regional food to find one another and conduct business. Background Recently, a new category of buyers has become interested in purchasing locally or regionally grown food. These larger-volume and institutional purchasers such as public schools, hospitals, food service providers on college and corporate campuses, and retail stores are increasingly assigning geographic preference as well as other 'authenticity requirements' to their key purchase criterion along with long-standing cost, quality, quantity, and delivery requirements. In response to this interest on the part of both food buyers and food producers to find one another and do business, Ecotrust is in the process of creating a web-based wholesale-direct trading platform, FoodHub. The full Request For Proposal (RFP) is available at: http://www.ecotrust.org/foodhub/ Proposals are due January 5, 2008 Tim Welch Applications Developer Ecotrust -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rshepard at appl-ecosys.com Mon Dec 29 18:58:38 2008 From: rshepard at appl-ecosys.com (Rich Shepard) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:58:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [portland] Upgrading from Python-2.4 to -2.5 Message-ID: I hope all of you are enjoying the holidays and the disappearance of the snow. I'll make time this week to complete the transition from 2.4 to 2.5 as initiated by my upgrade to Slackware-12.x. As I make changes so that my applications continue to run, I have two questions for you python gurus here: 1) How do I migrate packages from 2.4-site-packages to 2.5-site-packages? 2) What, if anything, should I do about this console message I see now and then when I kill X prior to logging off? /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py:45: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module dbus_bindings: This Python has API version 1013, module dbus_bindings has version 1012. import dbus_bindings /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py:45: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module dbus_bindings: This Python has API version 1013, module dbus_bindings has version 1012. import dbus_bindings warning: python-dbus not installed. warning: python-dbus not installed. error: dbus failed to load (python-dbus ver. 0.80+ required). Exiting... Haven't seen this the past few times, but I think it's something that should be addressed before I remove all traces of 2.4 from my systems. TIA, Rich -- Richard B. Shepard, Ph.D. | Integrity Credibility Applied Ecosystem Services, Inc. | Innovation Voice: 503-667-4517 Fax: 503-667-8863 From robin at alldunn.com Mon Dec 29 19:50:24 2008 From: robin at alldunn.com (Robin Dunn) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 10:50:24 -0800 Subject: [portland] Upgrading from Python-2.4 to -2.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49591BF0.3080606@alldunn.com> Rich Shepard wrote: > I hope all of you are enjoying the holidays and the disappearance of the > snow. > > I'll make time this week to complete the transition from 2.4 to 2.5 as > initiated by my upgrade to Slackware-12.x. As I make changes so that my > applications continue to run, I have two questions for you python gurus > here: > > 1) How do I migrate packages from 2.4-site-packages to 2.5-site-packages? > Install new Python 2.5 versions of the packages, or build install them from source using Python 2.5. > 2) What, if anything, should I do about this console message I see now > and > then when I kill X prior to logging off? > > /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py:45: RuntimeWarning: Python C > API version mismatch for module dbus_bindings: This > Python has API version 1013, module dbus_bindings has version 1012. > import dbus_bindings > /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/dbus/_dbus.py:45: RuntimeWarning: Python C > API version mismatch for module dbus_bindings: This > Python has API version 1013, module dbus_bindings has version 1012. > import dbus_bindings > warning: python-dbus not installed. > warning: python-dbus not installed. > error: dbus failed to load (python-dbus ver. 0.80+ required). Exiting... The same thing. The message means that Python 2.5 is using a binary extension module (dbus_bindings) that was built with Python 2.4. -- Robin Dunn Software Craftsman http://wxPython.org Java give you jitters? Relax with wxPython! From kirby.urner at gmail.com Mon Dec 29 20:01:14 2008 From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 11:01:14 -0800 Subject: [portland] Upgrading from Python-2.4 to -2.5 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Rich Shepard wrote: > I hope all of you are enjoying the holidays and the disappearance of the > snow. > Why not go all the way to 2.6, now ready for prime time, and your leap off to 3.0? Probably because of your libraries, I'm facing similar issues. I keep several Pythons on most computers but mostly use 2.5. I'm pretty up to speed on Django by now, not really much to it, which is the whole point. Leaves it to the developer to create an elegant site, or not, kinda like Python itself (so few restrictions). However, even as I stuff my head with knowledge, older knowledge leaks away, so I'm no longer so great in the saddle with httpd (Apache) damn it to hell (not Apache, my leaking). Speaking of leaking, I'm pumping my colleagues to get more involved with Immersive Media, one of the coolest and most prestigious of Portland's high tech bevy. Google uses their cameras for Google Streets. Here's where my lesson planning might go (connects to edu-sig work, where I use SQL to teach about polyhedra): http://mathforum.org/kb/thread.jspa?threadID=1876104&tstart=0 Kirby