From brad at allendev.com  Fri May 18 06:51:45 2007
From: brad at allendev.com (Brad Allen)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 23:51:45 -0500
Subject: [portland] farewell Portland Pythoneers
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Hello Portland Pythoneers:

On Friday I am returning to my home in Dallas after nearly six weeks 
here in Portland; however I will still be available via email or 
chat, and may occasionally show up on the mailing list.

You can reach me via Jabber using my gmail account: bolderaft

So, who wants to take the reigns on the Meetup.com site? If I don't 
hear back on this during the next week I will transfer it to Kirby, 
since he managed the old Meetup site.

P.S. Sorry I didn't get a chance to have a Python meetup this week on 
the logging module, as some of us had discussed; finishing up my work 
here has involved some long hours. Nevertheless, I would encourage 
everyone to take a look at the logging module, built into the 
Standard Library. It is well worth the learning curve and is useful 
on almost every project. It allows you to do away with sprinkling 
your modules with print statements, and then having to clean up 
later. Instead, you can manage which modules are generating debug 
messages, putting one module under a microscope while making the 
others stop chattering. Another great feature: rotating log files.

From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sat May 19 01:10:35 2007
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:10:35 -0700
Subject: [portland] farewell Portland Pythoneers
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Thanks for galvanizing our sleepy town out of somnambulance Brad.

Dallas is definitely a battery charger in this picture, with you a willing
conduit.

I'd be happy to receiving kingly meetup powers on Meetup by default,
should no one else wish that mantle, realizing:

(a) the python.org infrastructure is more official, and I'm not the
king of that (Guido is) and

(b) we want a presence in meetup space for gnubies looking for
Python meetups -- a logical place to look, no doubt about it,
and Dallas keeps a profile there as well.

However, I'm not sure how good I'll be in the long run at not
standing up lonely hearts looking for a snake charmer experience
i.e. that lone coder, just breezin' through Portland, lookin' to
hob nob about special name __rib__ syntax over a Hawthorne
Best Bitter, might find me out of town that week or whatever.

But the infrastructure is sufficiently friendly that I think it'll be
more a distributed community function to welcome newcomers,
and/or it'll be up to at least more than just me.

And I won't be control freaky about it.  If someone else would
prefer this crown, I've got lotsa crowns in my closet, wear two or
three a day some days.  I won't miss this Meetup one.

Thanks again Brad!

Kirby


On 5/17/07, Brad Allen <brad at allendev.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Portland Pythoneers:
>
> On Friday I am returning to my home in Dallas after nearly six weeks
> here in Portland; however I will still be available via email or
> chat, and may occasionally show up on the mailing list.
>
> You can reach me via Jabber using my gmail account: bolderaft
>
> So, who wants to take the reigns on the Meetup.com site? If I don't
> hear back on this during the next week I will transfer it to Kirby,
> since he managed the old Meetup site.
>
> P.S. Sorry I didn't get a chance to have a Python meetup this week on
> the logging module, as some of us had discussed; finishing up my work
> here has involved some long hours. Nevertheless, I would encourage
> everyone to take a look at the logging module, built into the
> Standard Library. It is well worth the learning curve and is useful
> on almost every project. It allows you to do away with sprinkling
> your modules with print statements, and then having to clean up
> later. Instead, you can manage which modules are generating debug
> messages, putting one module under a microscope while making the
> others stop chattering. Another great feature: rotating log files.
> _______________________________________________
> Portland mailing list
> Portland at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/portland
>
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From brad at allendev.com  Sat May 19 07:46:42 2007
From: brad at allendev.com (Brad Allen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:46:42 -0500
Subject: [portland] virtual servers for Python user groups
Message-ID: <a0623090cc273cb629eeb@[10.0.16.78]>

What do you think of the idea of PSF funding hosted virtual servers 
for user groups? A virtual server could be managed by a volunteer 
representative of the local user group, so PSF's only involvement 
would be the initial setup and paying the ongoing bill.  This would 
give user groups a place for things like secure SVN hosting, Trac for 
project management, and user group website, etc...

In the Dallas user group, we benefit from Jeff Rush donating the user 
of his colocated server, but not every user group has someone that 
can contribute a server. Making a similar resource available to any 
Python user group could enable real action and growth.

Recently I visited the newly re-forming Python user group in 
Portland, OR, which had a meeting at BarCamp, and we discussed the 
virtual server idea. One of the members said he had an interest in 
helping PSF pilot test projects to help bolster user groups, and I 
think there would be no difficulty in finding someone to take on 
sysadmin chores for a user group virtual server.

The Portland group would be a good testbed for seeing what PSF user 
group assistance can do, because the group is in the process of 
re-establishing after a period of inactivity.  I suspect Portland 
could sustain a very large and active Python user group if they could 
get the right resources assembled.

From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Sat May 19 07:55:43 2007
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 15:55:43 +1000
Subject: [portland] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user
	groups
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+1 from me.

Also would recommend a "meta" user group to monitor and keep in touch with
groups making use of this service. A simple system like a Google Group
should be plenty. There is a lack of 'play areas' for putting Python web
apps.

-T

On 5/19/07, Grig Gheorghiu <grig at gheorghiu.net> wrote:
>
> Strong +1 from me. I organize the SoCal Piggies group with Titus Brown,
> and we both donate server capacity and bandwidth to the group. A
> PSF-sponsored virtual host would be nice.
>
> Grig
>
> --- Brad Allen <brad at allendev.com> wrote:
>
> > What do you think of the idea of PSF funding hosted virtual servers
> > for user groups? A virtual server could be managed by a volunteer
> > representative of the local user group, so PSF's only involvement
> > would be the initial setup and paying the ongoing bill.  This would
> > give user groups a place for things like secure SVN hosting, Trac for
> >
> > project management, and user group website, etc...
> >
> > In the Dallas user group, we benefit from Jeff Rush donating the user
> >
> > of his colocated server, but not every user group has someone that
> > can contribute a server. Making a similar resource available to any
> > Python user group could enable real action and growth.
> >
> > Recently I visited the newly re-forming Python user group in
> > Portland, OR, which had a meeting at BarCamp, and we discussed the
> > virtual server idea. One of the members said he had an interest in
> > helping PSF pilot test projects to help bolster user groups, and I
> > think there would be no difficulty in finding someone to take on
> > sysadmin chores for a user group virtual server.
> >
> > The Portland group would be a good testbed for seeing what PSF user
> > group assistance can do, because the group is in the process of
> > re-establishing after a period of inactivity.  I suspect Portland
> > could sustain a very large and active Python user group if they could
> >
> > get the right resources assembled.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Advocacy mailing list
> > Advocacy at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Advocacy mailing list
> Advocacy at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy
>
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From grig at gheorghiu.net  Sat May 19 07:50:50 2007
From: grig at gheorghiu.net (Grig Gheorghiu)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 22:50:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [portland] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user
	groups
In-Reply-To: <a0623090cc273cb629eeb@[10.0.16.78]>
Message-ID: <372338.33466.qm@web54504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Strong +1 from me. I organize the SoCal Piggies group with Titus Brown,
and we both donate server capacity and bandwidth to the group. A
PSF-sponsored virtual host would be nice.

Grig

--- Brad Allen <brad at allendev.com> wrote:

> What do you think of the idea of PSF funding hosted virtual servers 
> for user groups? A virtual server could be managed by a volunteer 
> representative of the local user group, so PSF's only involvement 
> would be the initial setup and paying the ongoing bill.  This would 
> give user groups a place for things like secure SVN hosting, Trac for
> 
> project management, and user group website, etc...
> 
> In the Dallas user group, we benefit from Jeff Rush donating the user
> 
> of his colocated server, but not every user group has someone that 
> can contribute a server. Making a similar resource available to any 
> Python user group could enable real action and growth.
> 
> Recently I visited the newly re-forming Python user group in 
> Portland, OR, which had a meeting at BarCamp, and we discussed the 
> virtual server idea. One of the members said he had an interest in 
> helping PSF pilot test projects to help bolster user groups, and I 
> think there would be no difficulty in finding someone to take on 
> sysadmin chores for a user group virtual server.
> 
> The Portland group would be a good testbed for seeing what PSF user 
> group assistance can do, because the group is in the process of 
> re-establishing after a period of inactivity.  I suspect Portland 
> could sustain a very large and active Python user group if they could
> 
> get the right resources assembled.
> _______________________________________________
> Advocacy mailing list
> Advocacy at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy
> 


From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com  Sat May 19 09:00:34 2007
From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 17:00:34 +1000
Subject: [portland] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user
	groups
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	<372338.33466.qm@web54504.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Trying again...

On 5/19/07, Tennessee Leeuwenburg <tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> +1 from me.
>
> Also would recommend a "meta" user group to monitor and keep in touch with
> groups making use of this service. A simple system like a Google Group
> should be plenty. There is a lack of 'play areas' for putting Python web
> apps.
>
> -T
>
> On 5/19/07, Grig Gheorghiu <grig at gheorghiu.net> wrote:
> >
> > Strong +1 from me. I organize the SoCal Piggies group with Titus Brown,
> > and we both donate server capacity and bandwidth to the group. A
> > PSF-sponsored virtual host would be nice.
> >
> > Grig
> >
> > --- Brad Allen < brad at allendev.com> wrote:
> >
> > > What do you think of the idea of PSF funding hosted virtual servers
> > > for user groups? A virtual server could be managed by a volunteer
> > > representative of the local user group, so PSF's only involvement
> > > would be the initial setup and paying the ongoing bill.  This would
> > > give user groups a place for things like secure SVN hosting, Trac for
> > >
> > > project management, and user group website, etc...
> > >
> > > In the Dallas user group, we benefit from Jeff Rush donating the user
> > >
> > > of his colocated server, but not every user group has someone that
> > > can contribute a server. Making a similar resource available to any
> > > Python user group could enable real action and growth.
> > >
> > > Recently I visited the newly re-forming Python user group in
> > > Portland, OR, which had a meeting at BarCamp, and we discussed the
> > > virtual server idea. One of the members said he had an interest in
> > > helping PSF pilot test projects to help bolster user groups, and I
> > > think there would be no difficulty in finding someone to take on
> > > sysadmin chores for a user group virtual server.
> > >
> > > The Portland group would be a good testbed for seeing what PSF user
> > > group assistance can do, because the group is in the process of
> > > re-establishing after a period of inactivity.  I suspect Portland
> > > could sustain a very large and active Python user group if they could
> > >
> > > get the right resources assembled.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Advocacy mailing list
> > > Advocacy at python.org
> > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Advocacy mailing list
> > Advocacy at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy
> >
>
>
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From brad at allendev.com  Sat May 19 09:16:28 2007
From: brad at allendev.com (Brad Allen)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 02:16:28 -0500
Subject: [portland] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user
	groups
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References: <a0623090cc273cb629eeb@10.0.16.78>	
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At 3:55 PM +1000 5/19/07, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote:
>+1 from me.
>
>Also would recommend a "meta" user group to monitor and keep in 
>touch with groups making use of this service. A simple system like a 
>Google Group should be plenty. There is a lack of 'play areas' for 
>putting Python web apps.

It appears that such a mailing list on python.org has already been 
created by Jeff Rush:

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/group-organizers

It's a new list, with no postings; hopefully we can attract user 
group organizers to join and compare notes, to learn what other 
groups are doing, and to provide mutual support.

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Sat May 19 17:06:33 2007
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:06:33 -0500
Subject: [portland] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user
	groups
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On 5/19/07, Brad Allen <brad at allendev.com> wrote:
> At 3:55 PM +1000 5/19/07, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote:
> >+1 from me.
> >
> >Also would recommend a "meta" user group to monitor and keep in
> >touch with groups making use of this service. A simple system like a
> >Google Group should be plenty. There is a lack of 'play areas' for
> >putting Python web apps.
>
> It appears that such a mailing list on python.org has already been
> created by Jeff Rush:
>
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/group-organizers
>
> It's a new list, with no postings; hopefully we can attract user
> group organizers to join and compare notes, to learn what other
> groups are doing, and to provide mutual support.
> _______________________________________________
> Advocacy mailing list
> Advocacy at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy
>

+1 from me.  To date, we've been using the wiki as web space, it has
been a good starting point, but it would be nice to have a virtual
server for each users group for the afore mentioned activities.  Not
that I'm against google/yahoo type resources, but for Users Groups I
prefer not requiring membership in a given email system to use the
resources.  It leads to an unnecessary and unwanted proliferation of
email accounts, diminishing the value of each.  Also, some members
have strong feelings about the use of these types of email services
and their privacy -- I'm not arguing the pro or con of this, it's that
I respect their opinions and I want to use services that don't require
one to have a google/yahoo/et al email account to take advantage of
them.

To that end, I've taken advantage of the email list hosted by
python.org and the wiki space.  A virtual server for the group would
be a valuable resource, especially if it is grouped with other UG
servers -- who knows what kinds of wonderful resources might bloom
because of it?


-- 
Jeff Hinrichs
www.OmahaPython.org

From facundobatista at gmail.com  Mon May 21 19:08:48 2007
From: facundobatista at gmail.com (Facundo Batista)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 14:08:48 -0300
Subject: [portland] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user
	groups
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2007/5/19, Brad Allen <brad at allendev.com>:

> What do you think of the idea of PSF funding hosted virtual servers
> for user groups? A virtual server could be managed by a volunteer
> representative of the local user group, so PSF's only involvement

+1.

PythonArgentina website and everything actually runs on a loaned
server from a friendly enterprise here.

It'd be great to have a virtual server funded by PSF.

Regards,

-- 
.    Facundo

Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/
PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/

From goodger at python.org  Mon May 21 23:07:12 2007
From: goodger at python.org (David Goodger)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 17:07:12 -0400
Subject: [portland] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user
	groups
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References: <a0623090cc273cb629eeb@[10.0.16.78]>
Message-ID: <46520A00.9050808@python.org>

[Brad Allen]
> What do you think of the idea of PSF funding hosted virtual servers 
> for user groups?

If well executed, it sounds like a good idea.
This is what someone needs to do:

Write up a proposal, with full details:

* who the server/service is for (both in the abstract and concrete, e.g. names)
* what it consists of
* where & how the server/service will be physically hosted
* how will it be managed
* who will manage & maintain it (names)
* what URLs would it use (*.groups.python.org?  groups.python.org/*?  Other?)
* how much it will cost (initially and as it scales)

Submit the proposal to the PSF Board of Directors (psf-board at python.org).

> A virtual server could be managed by a volunteer
> representative of the local user group, so PSF's only involvement
> would be the initial setup and paying the ongoing bill.  This would
> give user groups a place for things like secure SVN hosting, Trac for
> project management, and user group website, etc...

Writing as a PSF director, I could see myself voting for such a proposal, but
only if it didn't add to the workload of the Board (all volunteers).  We don't
have many spare cycles, and don't want to take on more projects.  I don't think
we'd want to do more than approve a proposal, cut a check (or set up payments),
and review progress reports.

IOW, a management structure is essential.

I'm concerned that multiple virtual servers may be expensive and difficult to
manage.  Then again, maybe I'm wrong, and multiple virtual servers will have
economies of scale.  Tummy.com may be a good host.

I look forward to seeing a proposal.

David Goodger
PSF Director & Secretary

> In the Dallas user group, we benefit from Jeff Rush donating the user 
> of his colocated server, but not every user group has someone that 
> can contribute a server. Making a similar resource available to any 
> Python user group could enable real action and growth.
> 
> Recently I visited the newly re-forming Python user group in 
> Portland, OR, which had a meeting at BarCamp, and we discussed the 
> virtual server idea. One of the members said he had an interest in 
> helping PSF pilot test projects to help bolster user groups, and I 
> think there would be no difficulty in finding someone to take on 
> sysadmin chores for a user group virtual server.
> 
> The Portland group would be a good testbed for seeing what PSF user 
> group assistance can do, because the group is in the process of 
> re-establishing after a period of inactivity.  I suspect Portland 
> could sustain a very large and active Python user group if they could 
> get the right resources assembled.

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From freyley at gmail.com  Tue May 22 20:52:21 2007
From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 11:52:21 -0700
Subject: [portland] new python group
Message-ID: <8db4a1910705221152l3e006178q1bbb30a90525158b@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all,

Woot, we exist.

I told XPDX that we exist, in the hopes that some of the python geeks
there want to come back. And invited them to the June 12th Lucky Lab
to talk about the future and stuff. In addition, Eva of CubeSpace is
really excited about having user groups meet at CubeSpace, so if we
want to have a presentation or code workshop or anything, we can work
that out pretty easily.

I'm starting to work on the code sprints, but I'm aiming at starting
in September. Anybody who wants to work on that, let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff

PS: Did somebody email the meetup folks to let them know the list and
june 12th date exist?

From brad at allendev.com  Thu May 24 03:32:22 2007
From: brad at allendev.com (Brad Allen)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 20:32:22 -0500
Subject: [portland] Join the Python Announce list if you haven't already
Message-ID: <a06230911c27a9a28569c@[192.168.1.155]>

Hello Portland Pythoneers:

If you haven't gotten around to joining the Python Announce list, 
here's a reminder.  I just now signed up for the first time, having 
relied on Daily Python and Planet Python to get my news, but this 
list is important because it's how the PSF gets the word out to the 
community.

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-announce-list

I joined today and took a look at the May 2007 archives; it contains 
various interesting things including a call for Python newbies to get 
involved in the PEP documentation process and receive mentoring from 
more experienced Pythonistas:

http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-announce-list/2007-May.txt






From freyley at gmail.com  Thu May 24 07:52:04 2007
From: freyley at gmail.com (Jeff Schwaber)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 22:52:04 -0700
Subject: [portland] we exist!
Message-ID: <8db4a1910705232252o6365eadfse6ad6c4787a526d@mail.gmail.com>

attempt #2 to send this message. attempt #1 still in void.

Hey all,

Woot, we exist.

I told XPDX that we exist, in the hopes that some of the python geeks
there want to come back. And invited them to the June 12th Lucky Lab
to talk about the future and stuff. In addition, Eva of CubeSpace is
really excited about having user groups meet at CubeSpace, so if we
want to have a presentation or code workshop or anything, we can work
that out pretty easily.

I'm starting to work on the code sprints, but I'm aiming at starting
in September. Anybody who wants to work on that, let me know.

Thanks,

Jeff

PS: Did somebody email the meetup folks to let them know the list and
june 12th date exist?

From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Thu May 24 17:13:05 2007
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 08:13:05 -0700
Subject: [portland] we exist!
In-Reply-To: <8db4a1910705232252o6365eadfse6ad6c4787a526d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8db4a1910705232252o6365eadfse6ad6c4787a526d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f604188c0705240813u2a22c68dk6220ec9a71108a7e@mail.gmail.com>

> PS: Did somebody email the meetup folks to let them know the list and
> june 12th date exist?

Hi Jeff --

Per: http://python.meetup.com/183/

Python Meetup has the info (June 12, 7 PM) and location (Lucky Lab),
but the description of the meeting is from an earlier meetup.

We have like 12 subscribers on Meetup, with 5 yeses and 3 maybes
RSVPing for June 12.

Also:

Organizer:
Brad Allen
Asst. Organizers:
Jason

Kirby

PS:   I got your first one too.

From brad at allendev.com  Wed May 30 01:42:53 2007
From: brad at allendev.com (Brad Allen)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:42:53 -0500
Subject: [portland] Ubuntu Live Conference July 22-24 in Portland
Message-ID: <a06230902c2826a29492a@[192.168.1.155]>

You guys probably already know about this, but it's worth mentioning 
since Ubuntu is a very pro-Python distro:

http://www.ubuntulive.com/