[Pandas-dev] New website infrastructure

[Marc Garcia]

I don't know much about discourse, but why do we want to self-host it?
Seems like Discourse does it for free for open source projects:
https://free.discourse.group/ And I don't think we want another system to
maintain. Am I missing something?

I applied for https://pandas.discourse.group, so we can give it a try. We
should have it approved and working in couple of days.

For what I saw, Discourse has one level of categories, so I guess we want
one per project, so we can have categories for "Users", "Contributors",
"Ecosystem"... or something similar. I guess if we have a single Discourse
for NumFOCUS, every project will be a category, and it'll be difficult to
group conversations.

If anyone already has experience with Discourse and disagrees with my
guesses, please let me know.

On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 4:32 PM Andy Terrel <andy at numfocus.org> wrote:

> Sounds great to me. Just let me know where everything goes.
>
> NumPy wants me to help host a discourse for them, maybe OVH would be a
> good place to do that as well, (although I would be more inclinded if it
> was pydata and we had pandas, scipy, and numpy on it).
>
> -- Andy
>
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:51 AM Tom Augspurger <tom.augspurger88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sounds good w.r.t crediting OVH on those pages.
>>
>> For the ASV results at pandas.pydata.org/speed (which I now notice is
>> currently broken for pandas), the only thing on the webserver is a
>> cron job doing a `git pull` from
>> https://github.com/asv-runner/asv-collection, from within
>> `/usr/share/nginx`.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 8:18 AM Marc Garcia <garcia.marc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> An update on the new website infrastructure. We need to finish
>>> discussing the details, but OVH is happy to provide the hosting for the
>>> pandas infrastructure we need.
>>>
>>> My initial idea is to credit them in the page with the rest of the
>>> sponsors in the new website:
>>> https://datapythonista.github.io/pandas-web/community/team.html#institutional-partners and
>>> also in the top right corner of the runnable code widgets (see for example
>>> where Binder is credited here: https://spacy.io/).
>>>
>>> What I'd like to ask is:
>>>
>>> 1. For the production website and docs (static content only, for the
>>> traffic we need):
>>> https://us.ovhcloud.com/products/public-cloud/object-storage
>>> 2. For our tools and processes, like the benchmarks, builds, CI stuff
>>> (temporary publish the docs for every PR,...):
>>> https://www.ovh.co.uk/vps/vps-ssd.xml (VPS SSD 3)
>>> 3. For BinderHub (runnable code in our docs, launch tutorials on
>>> Binder...): https://www.ovh.co.uk/public-cloud/kubernetes/
>>>
>>> For the BinderHub, QuantStack offered help with the set up (which is
>>> great, because I don't know much about Binder myself, and I'm not sure if
>>> anyone else does or wants to take care of this). I don't think it'll be
>>> easy to estimate how big is the cluster we need beforehand, but I guess we
>>> can add things to Binder iteratively, and have more info as we grow.
>>>
>>> OVH gave us a 200 euros voucher to experiment with the different
>>> services. Let me know how all this sounds, and if there are no objections,
>>> I'll create an account and buy those services with the voucher, and I'll
>>> start to prototype and see how everything works.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 11:06 PM Marc Garcia <garcia.marc at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Somehow related to the work on the new website (
>>>> https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas/pull/28014), I've been discussing
>>>> with the Binder team, and looks like should be quite easy soon (with a
>>>> Sphinx extension) to make all the documentation pages runnable with Binder,
>>>> directly from the website (without opening the page as a Jupyter in
>>>> mybinder).
>>>>
>>>> While they are very happy with the idea of having this is pandas, it's
>>>> uncertain if the current infrastructure Binder has got, is able to handle
>>>> all the traffic we would send. And scikit-learn is working on it too (today
>>>> they added to the dev docs a link to mybinder to run the examples).
>>>>
>>>> I'm discussing with OVH (their infrastructure provider) on whether
>>>> they'd be happy to provide a dedicated BinderHub specific to pandas (or may
>>>> be we can have one for all NumFOCUS projects). We'll see how it goes, but
>>>> wanted to let you know, so you're updated, and in case anyone is interested
>>>> in participating in the discussions. Of course before any decision is made
>>>> I'll open a discussion here or on GitHub.
>>>>
>>>> As part of the discussion I'm also trying to get a server for the
>>>> website, and one for development stuff. Specfically for the dev docs
>>>> (including rendered docs of every PR) and the GitHub app that will generate
>>>> them. I guess it should be very easy to find a sponsor for these two
>>>> servers (in exchange of a small note in the footer of the website, or
>>>> something like that).
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any comment, want to be involved or whatever.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
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>>
>
> --
> Andy R. Terrel, PhD
> President
> NumFOCUS
> andy at numfocus.org
>
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