[Pandas-dev] [pydata] Is there a place for general discussion of pandas?

[Joris Van den Bossche]

I would say we still want it "development-related" (in the broad sense, but
to make a clear distinction with pure usage / support questions), so
dropping the "dev" suffix might not reflect that anymore.
There are also quite some other lists that use a similar pattern
(scipy-dev, matplotlib-devel, python-dev, dev at arrow.apache.org, ...), and
have the scope that we intent (as far as I am aware of those lists). So I
would think it is somewhat an established pattern?

Joris

Op ma 7 jan. 2019 om 15:40 schreef Matthew Brett <matthew.brett at gmail.com>:

> Hi,
>
> How about renaming the "pandas-dev" mailing list to "pandas"?  It
> sounds as if the "-dev" is discouraging the kind of discussion the OP
> is hoping for.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matthew
>
> On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 2:26 PM Tom Augspurger
> <tom.augspurger88 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Agreed with Joris here.
> >
> > IMO, your "(2) There isn't really any place for users to interact with
> developers to discuss longer term plans (e.g. version 0.25, version 2.0)"
> > is a perfect topic for the pandas-dev mailing list.
> >
> > I opened https://github.com/pandas-dev/pandas-website/pull/69 to update
> our community page, and tried to summarize some of the sentiments
> > from this thread. Please share your thoughts if you have any, and maybe
> subscribe to the discussion there.
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Joris Van den Bossche <
> jorisvandenbossche at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Op ma 7 jan. 2019 om 01:05 schreef John E <eiler13 at gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> On this I think I disagree: there are actually 3 "places":
> >>>> - the bug tracker ("discussion issues" are not uncommon)
> >>>> - the pandas-dev mailing list (probably a better choice for more
> >>>> articulated discussions on pandas development)
> >>>> - the occasional pandas development hangouts
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I didn't even know about the mailing list but that is obviously dev
> only.  I only found it by googling and have not seen it generally
> publicized and to be clear I certainly think there should be dev only
> channels that avoid the riff raff like me.  ;-)
> >>>
> >> We indeed could do a better job communicating about those different
> channels.
> >> But, about pandas-dev mailing list: it is indeed for
> development-related questions, but that does not mean it only to be used by
> "developers" (in the sense of developing pandas). For me, what you mention
> about users that want to interact with developers about eg the roadmap,
> that is something perfectly fitting to discuss on the pandas-dev mailing
> list.
> >>
> >> In general, it would be nice to see more interaction between interested
> users and direct developers on roadmap and API discussions, and of the
> current channels, I think pandas-dev is the most appropriate for that at
> this time (if it is something not specific enough to be discussed on a
> github issue).
> >>
> >> That doesn't mean we can't think about other / better channels, though.
> There is currently some exploration of discourse in a couple of python
> communities (eg core python devs, jupyter)
> >>
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