From wes.turner at gmail.com  Thu Jun  1 00:42:16 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Wed, 31 May 2017 23:42:16 -0500
Subject: [omaha] 2017 TIOBE index
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On Wednesday, May 31, 2017, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
wrote:

> A good question. Since the article breaks it out by location, an
> inquisitive soul could sample job listings for those areas and tally them
> up by attributes like educational requirements (undergrad, grad, doc),
> discipline(comp sci, data sci, etc) and years of experience.
>
> ?


C: http://schema.org/JobPosting lists a number of properties P: such as:

- P: http://schema.org/baseSalary
- P: http://schema.org/educationRequirements

IDK about sampling bias due to parseability and unstructuredness

The modeling knowledge from the kaggle house prices competition could be
useful:
http://markmail.org/thread/dhpowx7klupvb5n5#query:+page:1+mid:uyetzlhvcm23guhm+state:results


>
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Travis Smith <travis42 at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > This is exciting--but the greater question I have is this:  about how
> good
> > at making stuff with Python does one need to be in order to get a decent
> > job?  Are the numbers for Python inflated because everyone wants a data
> > scientist who has a doctorate in statistics (example)?
> >
> > Travis
> >
> > GPG Key: BFEB 7E65 04EB 184B A150 2E2C CC11 933F EE27 D86E
> >
> > On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T via Omaha <
> > omaha at python.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> Python listed as one of the 3 most in demand languages.
> >>
> >> http://www.techrepublic.com/article/here-are-the-3-most-in-
> >> demand-coding-languages-and-where-you-can-find-a-developer
> >> -job/?ftag=TRE684d531&bhid=12191677
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Naomi via Omaha <omaha at python.org
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Oh this is great! Thank you for sharing!
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my iPad
> >> >
> >> > > On May 19, 2017, at 10:57 PM, Wes Turner via Omaha <
> omaha at python.org <javascript:;>>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Re: Python jobs:
> >> > >
> >> > > - http://www.python.org/community/jobs/
> >> > > - https://jobs.github.com/positions?description=python
> >> > > - http://careers.joelonsoftware.com/jobs?searchTerm=python
> >> > > - http://www.linkedin.com/jsearch?keywords=python
> >> > > - http://www.indeed.com/q-Python-jobs.html
> >> > > - http://www.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-python
> >> > > - http://seeker.dice.com/jobsearch/servlet/JobSearch?
> >> > op=300&FREE_TEXT=python
> >> > > - http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/tag/python
> >> > > - http://www.pythonjobs.com/
> >> > > - http://www.djangojobs.org/
> >> > > - http://careerlink.com/search?keywords=python
> >> > > -
> >> > > https://www.glassdoor.com/Job/omaha-python-jobs-SRCH_IL.0,5_
> >> > IC1136440_KO6,12.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > Also useful:
> >> > >
> >> > > - https://github.com/lukasz-madon/awesome-remote-job#job-boards
> >> > > - https://github.com/wfhio/awesome-job-boards#python
> >> > >
> >> > > We could create a wordpress web page or a github wiki page:
> >> > >
> >> > > - https://github.com/omahapython
> >> > >
> >> > >  - https://github.com/omahapython/wiki/wiki
> >> > >  - OR
> >> > >  - https://github.com/omahapython/OmahaPython.github.io/wiki
> >> > >
> >> > > A thing listing (contributing?) area companies would be great.
> >> > >
> >> > > I like how these are done, but how do we find someone to find
> logos?:
> >> > >
> >> > > - https://www.openstack.org/foundation/companies/
> >> > >  - https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/Foundation/Funding
> >> > > - https://k12cs.org/statements-of-support/
> >> > >
> >> > > If somebody wants to send a request to the list with the URL to
> >> update,
> >> > > that'd probably also be a good time to point out our growing need
> for
> >> > state
> >> > > support of #K12CS education. #CSForAll
> >> > >
> >> > > - https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Acodeorg+bill
> >> > >  - IA is winning.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > "The Most Popular Language For Machine Learning and Data Science Is
> ?"
> >> > > http://www.kdnuggets.com/2017/01/most-popular-language-
> >> > machine-learning-data-science.html
> >> > >
> >> > >> On Friday, May 19, 2017, Matt Payne via Omaha <omaha at python.org
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> That's fantastic!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> IMHO OmahaPython.org should consider having a page listing Omaha
> >> > companies
> >> > >> who have full-time python programmers.  IIRC West and Raytheon have
> >> some
> >> > >> full-time python projects.  Who else does?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks! --Matt Payne
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Bob Haffner via Omaha <
> >> > omaha at python.org <javascript:;>
> >> > >> <javascript:;>>
> >> > >> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Python jumped ahead of C# in the TIOBE index.   Its 4th now.  I
> >> believe
> >> > >> it
> >> > >>> was 8th two years ago
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/
> >> > >>> _______________________________________________
> >> > >>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > >>> Omaha at python.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> > >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > >>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> --Matt Payne
> >> > >> _______________________________________________
> >> > >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > >> Omaha at python.org <javascript:;> <javascript:;>
> >> > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > >>
> >> > > _______________________________________________
> >> > > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > > Omaha at python.org <javascript:;>
> >> > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> > Omaha at python.org <javascript:;>
> >> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Jeff Hinrichs
> >> 402.218.1473
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >> Omaha at python.org <javascript:;>
> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
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> Omaha at python.org <javascript:;>
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From wes.turner at gmail.com  Fri Jun  9 12:22:49 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 11:22:49 -0500
Subject: [omaha] TPOT AutoML competition
Message-ID: <CACfEFw_TjjJnNq6GeOwusxqPU_9ROxjpwBpiiNtbM6x67sh6mA@mail.gmail.com>

> TPOT AutoML competition announced. $850 in prizes. Can AutoML beat humans
on @kaggle? #MachineLearning #DataScience

- https://twitter.com/randal_olson/status/870996230985437184

-
http://www.randalolson.com/2017/06/02/tpot-automated-machine-learning-competition/

```
TPOT Automated Machine Learning Competition
Posted on June 2, 2017
<http://www.randalolson.com/2017/06/02/tpot-automated-machine-learning-competition/>
 by Randy Olson <http://www.randalolson.com/author/rhiever/> ? 0 Comments
<http://www.randalolson.com/2017/06/02/tpot-automated-machine-learning-competition/#disqus_thread>
Can AutoML beat humans on Kaggle?

Automated Machine Learning (AutoML)
<http://www.kdnuggets.com/2017/01/current-state-automated-machine-learning.html>
is
poised to make a transformative impact on data science in 2017. At the
University of Pennsylvania, we?ve been working hard to develop TPOT
<https://github.com/rhiever/tpot>, a state-of-the-art open source AutoML
tool that optimizes machine learning pipelines for supervised learning
problems.

Now we?d like to see what you can do with TPOT.

Over the next couple months, we?re going to challenge you to apply TPOT to
any data science problem you find interesting on Kaggle
<https://www.kaggle.com/>. If your entry ranks in the top 25% of the
leaderboard on a Kaggle problem, we want to see how TPOT helped you
accomplish that.

At the end of the competition, the TPOT team will review all entries, rank
them, and award (monetary!) prizes to the top 3 entries: $500, $250, $100.
We?ll also post a write-up highlighting the best entries after the
competition.

Entries will be judged based on their rank achieved on the Kaggle problem
as well as the technical write-up provided with the entry.

Email your entries to olsonran at upenn.edu
```

From bob.haffner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 15 12:27:36 2017
From: bob.haffner at gmail.com (Bob Haffner)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 11:27:36 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Monthly Meeting Reminder : 6/21 @ 6:30
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Bill Koslosky will be presenting *Bayesian statistics for healthcare.  *This
will be a 20-30 minute presentation followed by a discussion (Bill is
looking for feedback)
DoSpace - Meeting Room 1

http://www.omahapython.org/blog/archives/event/monthly-meeting-3?instance_id=41



Still looking for a July speaker.  Let me know if you have any ideas  :-)

From Becky_Brusky at unigroup.com  Thu Jun 15 14:17:20 2017
From: Becky_Brusky at unigroup.com (Brusky, Becky)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 18:17:20 +0000
Subject: [omaha] Monthly Meeting Reminder : 6/21 @ 6:30
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If anyone is interested in doing another kaggle competition.  I could lead the discussion during the July Meeting if there is interest.

https://www.kaggle.com/c/zillow-prize-1

Becky Brusky

On 6/15/17, 11:27 AM, "Omaha on behalf of Bob Haffner via Omaha" <omaha-bounces+tbjb6=unigroupinc.com at python.org on behalf of omaha at python.org> wrote:

    Bill Koslosky will be presenting *Bayesian statistics for healthcare.  *This
    will be a 20-30 minute presentation followed by a discussion (Bill is
    looking for feedback)
    DoSpace - Meeting Room 1

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    Still looking for a July speaker.  Let me know if you have any ideas  :-)
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From bob.haffner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 15 16:55:23 2017
From: bob.haffner at gmail.com (Bob Haffner)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:55:23 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Monthly Meeting Reminder : 6/21 @ 6:30
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Sounds fun!

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Brusky, Becky <Becky_Brusky at unigroup.com>
wrote:

> If anyone is interested in doing another kaggle competition.  I could lead
> the discussion during the July Meeting if there is interest.
>
> https://www.kaggle.com/c/zillow-prize-1
>
> Becky Brusky
>
> On 6/15/17, 11:27 AM, "Omaha on behalf of Bob Haffner via Omaha"
> <omaha-bounces+tbjb6=unigroupinc.com at python.org on behalf of
> omaha at python.org> wrote:
>
>     Bill Koslosky will be presenting *Bayesian statistics for healthcare.
> *This
>     will be a 20-30 minute presentation followed by a discussion (Bill is
>     looking for feedback)
>     DoSpace - Meeting Room 1
>
>     https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omahapython.org%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fevent%
> 2Fmonthly-meeting-3%3Finstance_id%3D41&data=01%7C01%7CBecky_Brusky%
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>
>
>     Still looking for a July speaker.  Let me know if you have any ideas
> :-)
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From wes.turner at gmail.com  Thu Jun 15 20:16:42 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 19:16:42 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Monthly Meeting Reminder : 6/21 @ 6:30
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We could try to implement our best submissions from the house_prices
competition; and maybe enter the TPOT Kaggle competition:

- "[omaha] TPOT AutoML competition"
http://markmail.org/thread/qwfyw3d6ygg56gsf

  - /search "Org.python.omaha tpot"
 http://markmail.org/search/?q=Org.python.omaha+tpot+order%3Adate-backward

- "TPOT Automated Machine Learning Competition: Can AutoML beat humans on
Kaggle?"
http://www.kdnuggets.com/2017/06/tpot-automated-machine-learning-competition.html

For the Zillow house prices competition:

-
https://github.com/westurner/house_prices/blob/develop/house_prices/analysis.py
  - TPOT AutoML
  - Unfinished,

For OmahaPython/DataScience, we still have:

-
- https://github.com/omahapython/datascience
  - https://github.com/omahapython/datascience/issues

... "Re: [omaha] github.com/omahapython and @omahapython/datascience REQ:
for usernames"
http://markmail.org/thread/osrsfpv5ufzdclhc



On Thursday, June 15, 2017, Bob Haffner via Omaha <omaha at python.org> wrote:

> Sounds fun!
>
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Brusky, Becky <Becky_Brusky at unigroup.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > If anyone is interested in doing another kaggle competition.  I could
> lead
> > the discussion during the July Meeting if there is interest.
> >
> > https://www.kaggle.com/c/zillow-prize-1
> >
> > Becky Brusky
> >
> > On 6/15/17, 11:27 AM, "Omaha on behalf of Bob Haffner via Omaha"
> > <omaha-bounces+tbjb6=unigroupinc.com at python.org <javascript:;> on
> behalf of
> > omaha at python.org <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >     Bill Koslosky will be presenting *Bayesian statistics for healthcare.
> > *This
> >     will be a 20-30 minute presentation followed by a discussion (Bill is
> >     looking for feedback)
> >     DoSpace - Meeting Room 1
> >
> >     https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
> > http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omahapython.org%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fevent%
> > 2Fmonthly-meeting-3%3Finstance_id%3D41&data=01%7C01%7CBecky_Brusky%
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> >
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> > :-)
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From naomi.see at seenaomi.net  Sun Jun 18 18:52:56 2017
From: naomi.see at seenaomi.net (Naomi See)
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:52:56 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
Message-ID: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found especially
helpful with TDD best practices.

I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in this
aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well development.

Thank you,

Naomi-

From kevin.ortman at gmail.com  Mon Jun 19 09:03:03 2017
From: kevin.ortman at gmail.com (Kevin Ortman)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:03:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
In-Reply-To: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
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		Naomi, have you read two scoops??
https://www.twoscoopspress.com/products/two-scoops-of-django-1-8?
		
I like a lot of the best practices presented in the book. ?Testing is sprinkled throughout but Chapter 22 focuses on testing.
	





On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:25 AM -0500, "Naomi See via Omaha" <omaha at python.org> wrote:










Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found especially
helpful with TDD best practices.

I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in this
aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well development.

Thank you,

Naomi-
_______________________________________________
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Omaha at python.org
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
http://www.OmahaPython.org






From Payne at mattpayne.org  Mon Jun 19 10:02:07 2017
From: Payne at mattpayne.org (Matt Payne)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 14:02:07 +0000
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
In-Reply-To: <53BD8CB4EA83A274.D85B96FE-91C3-41B0-AB17-E2AA79E7ED4B@mail.outlook.com>
References: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <53BD8CB4EA83A274.D85B96FE-91C3-41B0-AB17-E2AA79E7ED4B@mail.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <CAOQmnQGbacsKHkgNOopGBszEPHRtS8yugXeGzfm7tLd7JF=JLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Naomi for bringing up this topic! I want to learn more about it.
Thanks Kevin, I had not heard about two scoops.

http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000000754 is older & free online.
A second edition is in early release. I have not read it... sigh.


On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:31 AM Kevin Ortman via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                 Naomi, have you read two scoops?
> https://www.twoscoopspress.com/products/two-scoops-of-django-1-8
>
> I like a lot of the best practices presented in the book.  Testing is
> sprinkled throughout but Chapter 22 focuses on testing.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:25 AM -0500, "Naomi See via Omaha" <
> omaha at python.org> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found especially
> helpful with TDD best practices.
>
> I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in this
> aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well
> development.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Naomi-
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From naomi.see at seenaomi.net  Mon Jun 19 13:18:05 2017
From: naomi.see at seenaomi.net (Naomi See)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:18:05 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
In-Reply-To: <CAOQmnQGbacsKHkgNOopGBszEPHRtS8yugXeGzfm7tLd7JF=JLQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <53BD8CB4EA83A274.D85B96FE-91C3-41B0-AB17-E2AA79E7ED4B@mail.outlook.com>
 <CAOQmnQGbacsKHkgNOopGBszEPHRtS8yugXeGzfm7tLd7JF=JLQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANWeTQXr04yS3dEni49fCu-o0s2z9Cjj=am_RR6OUZHOCp9A0w@mail.gmail.com>

These are great suggestions, thank you to you both Kevin and Matt!

Naomi-

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 9:02 AM, Matt Payne via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
wrote:

> Thanks Naomi for bringing up this topic! I want to learn more about it.
> Thanks Kevin, I had not heard about two scoops.
>
> http://chimera.labs.oreilly.com/books/1234000000754 is older & free
> online.
> A second edition is in early release. I have not read it... sigh.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:31 AM Kevin Ortman via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                 Naomi, have you read two scoops?
> > https://www.twoscoopspress.com/products/two-scoops-of-django-1-8
> >
> > I like a lot of the best practices presented in the book.  Testing is
> > sprinkled throughout but Chapter 22 focuses on testing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 7:25 AM -0500, "Naomi See via Omaha" <
> > omaha at python.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found
> especially
> > helpful with TDD best practices.
> >
> > I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in this
> > aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well
> > development.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Naomi-
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Mon Jun 19 14:11:14 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:11:14 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
In-Reply-To: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw-WY6_CNCFsbwhksALfXv-zbgTEESXNxeYNtfn7xt64vA@mail.gmail.com>

>From https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#django :

Django?
> Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(web_framework)
> Homepage: https://www.djangoproject.com/
> Src: git https://github.com/django/django
> PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django
> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/
> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/settings/
> Awesome: https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django


https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django#testing

- http://pyvideo.org/tag/django/
- https://www.google.com/search?q=site:pyvideo.org+django+test

pytest
- https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#py-test

pytest-django
- https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-django
  -
https://pytest-django.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#why-would-i-use-this-instead-of-django-s-manage-py-test-command

- https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar
>

Q: Is django-debug-toolbar really an antipattern?
A: Those really could be assertions in the tests.


> - https://www.djangopackages.com/
>   - https://www.djangopackages.com/grids/g/cms/


- https://westurner.github.io/tools/#cookiecutter
  -
https://cookiecutter.readthedocs.org/en/latest/readme.html#available-cookiecutters
    - [...]
    - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django (Two Scoops of Django
1.11)
      - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django#features
        - https://12factor.net/
        - [...]

    - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-djangopackage

      - .gitignore, setup.py, Makefile, Travis.yml, Codecov, Tox.ini,
Sphinx (./docs/{conf.py, index.rst}; ReadTheDocs)
      - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/intro/reusable-apps/

Fixtures:

-
https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/howto/initial-data/#where-django-finds-fixture-files

- https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/fixtures.html

- https://djangopackages.org/grids/g/fixtures/

  - https://github.com/FactoryBoy/factory_boy/
    - https://factoryboy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/orms.html#django


-
https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/tree/develop/djangotestapp/testapp
  -
https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/blob/develop/djangotestapp/testapp/tests.py


- The TOC for these looks great:
  https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/


On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Naomi See via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
wrote:

> Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found especially
> helpful with TDD best practices.
>
> I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in this
> aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well
> development.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Naomi-
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Mon Jun 19 14:34:24 2017
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:34:24 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
In-Reply-To: <CANWeTQVdAoOZ2kDRMnuCPO1sd=u5owU9_eeMF=Ht_XgNZdLqMw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACfEFw-WY6_CNCFsbwhksALfXv-zbgTEESXNxeYNtfn7xt64vA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANWeTQVdAoOZ2kDRMnuCPO1sd=u5owU9_eeMF=Ht_XgNZdLqMw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw88LMfdFYvi4vW7M6MezPPvJKaHSmkjrkNiWFjVMgOLPQ@mail.gmail.com>

yw!

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Naomi See <naomi.see at seenaomi.net> wrote:

> This is glorious, thank you kindly! :)
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#django :
>>
>> Django?
>>> Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(web_framework)
>>> Homepage: https://www.djangoproject.com/
>>> Src: git https://github.com/django/django
>>> PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django
>>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/
>>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
>>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/settings/
>>> Awesome: https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django#testing
>>
>> - http://pyvideo.org/tag/django/
>> - https://www.google.com/search?q=site:pyvideo.org+django+test
>>
>> pytest
>> - https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#py-test
>>
>> pytest-django
>> - https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-django
>>   - https://pytest-django.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#why-would-
>> i-use-this-instead-of-django-s-manage-py-test-command
>>
>> - https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar
>>>
>>
>> Q: Is django-debug-toolbar really an antipattern?
>> A: Those really could be assertions in the tests.
>>
>>
>>> - https://www.djangopackages.com/
>>>   - https://www.djangopackages.com/grids/g/cms/
>>
>>
>> - https://westurner.github.io/tools/#cookiecutter
>>   - https://cookiecutter.readthedocs.org/en/latest/readme.
>> html#available-cookiecutters
>>     - [...]
>>     - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django (Two Scoops of
>> Django 1.11)
>>       - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django#features
>>         - https://12factor.net/
>>         - [...]
>>
>>     - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-djangopackage
>>
>>       - .gitignore, setup.py, Makefile, Travis.yml, Codecov, Tox.ini,
>> Sphinx (./docs/{conf.py, index.rst}; ReadTheDocs)
>>       - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/intro/reusable-apps/
>>
>> Fixtures:
>>
>> - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/howto/initial-data/#
>> where-django-finds-fixture-files
>>
>> - https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/fixtures.html
>>
>> - https://djangopackages.org/grids/g/fixtures/
>>
>>   - https://github.com/FactoryBoy/factory_boy/
>>     - https://factoryboy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/orms.html#django
>>
>>
>> - https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/tree/develop/
>> djangotestapp/testapp
>>   - https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/blob/develop/djan
>> gotestapp/testapp/tests.py
>>
>> - The TOC for these looks great:
>>   https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Naomi See via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found
>>> especially
>>> helpful with TDD best practices.
>>>
>>> I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in this
>>> aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well
>>> development.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Naomi-
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>>> Omaha at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>>
>>
>>
>

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Mon Jun 19 14:37:17 2017
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:37:17 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
In-Reply-To: <CACfEFw88LMfdFYvi4vW7M6MezPPvJKaHSmkjrkNiWFjVMgOLPQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACfEFw-WY6_CNCFsbwhksALfXv-zbgTEESXNxeYNtfn7xt64vA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANWeTQVdAoOZ2kDRMnuCPO1sd=u5owU9_eeMF=Ht_XgNZdLqMw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACfEFw88LMfdFYvi4vW7M6MezPPvJKaHSmkjrkNiWFjVMgOLPQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzziGKKQKDgkPuOEWj2opYibiZOJFyDpJPK8Ju4LXUZmbeA@mail.gmail.com>

I have read the book Matt suggested and highly recommend it.

https://www.obeythetestinggoat.com/


On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:34 PM, Wes Turner via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
wrote:

> yw!
>
> On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Naomi See <naomi.see at seenaomi.net> wrote:
>
> > This is glorious, thank you kindly! :)
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> From https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#django :
> >>
> >> Django?
> >>> Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(web_framework)
> >>> Homepage: https://www.djangoproject.com/
> >>> Src: git https://github.com/django/django
> >>> PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django
> >>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/
> >>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
> >>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/settings/
> >>> Awesome: https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django
> >>
> >>
> >> https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django#testing
> >>
> >> - http://pyvideo.org/tag/django/
> >> - https://www.google.com/search?q=site:pyvideo.org+django+test
> >>
> >> pytest
> >> - https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#py-test
> >>
> >> pytest-django
> >> - https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-django
> >>   - https://pytest-django.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#why-would-
> >> i-use-this-instead-of-django-s-manage-py-test-command
> >>
> >> - https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar
> >>>
> >>
> >> Q: Is django-debug-toolbar really an antipattern?
> >> A: Those really could be assertions in the tests.
> >>
> >>
> >>> - https://www.djangopackages.com/
> >>>   - https://www.djangopackages.com/grids/g/cms/
> >>
> >>
> >> - https://westurner.github.io/tools/#cookiecutter
> >>   - https://cookiecutter.readthedocs.org/en/latest/readme.
> >> html#available-cookiecutters
> >>     - [...]
> >>     - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django (Two Scoops of
> >> Django 1.11)
> >>       - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django#features
> >>         - https://12factor.net/
> >>         - [...]
> >>
> >>     - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-djangopackage
> >>
> >>       - .gitignore, setup.py, Makefile, Travis.yml, Codecov, Tox.ini,
> >> Sphinx (./docs/{conf.py, index.rst}; ReadTheDocs)
> >>       - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/intro/reusable-apps/
> >>
> >> Fixtures:
> >>
> >> - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/howto/initial-data/#
> >> where-django-finds-fixture-files
> >>
> >> - https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/fixtures.html
> >>
> >> - https://djangopackages.org/grids/g/fixtures/
> >>
> >>   - https://github.com/FactoryBoy/factory_boy/
> >>     - https://factoryboy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/orms.html#django
> >>
> >>
> >> - https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/tree/develop/
> >> djangotestapp/testapp
> >>   - https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/blob/develop/djan
> >> gotestapp/testapp/tests.py
> >>
> >> - The TOC for these looks great:
> >>   https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Naomi See via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found
> >>> especially
> >>> helpful with TDD best practices.
> >>>
> >>> I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in
> this
> >>> aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well
> >>> development.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>>
> >>> Naomi-
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> >>> Omaha at python.org
> >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> >>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From naomi.see at seenaomi.net  Mon Jun 19 14:27:58 2017
From: naomi.see at seenaomi.net (Naomi See)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 13:27:58 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Test Driven Development
In-Reply-To: <CACfEFw-WY6_CNCFsbwhksALfXv-zbgTEESXNxeYNtfn7xt64vA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANWeTQVDjyW0Ko00UNtHj=2Hh-_+1ctGnXHozwjCkkJ8fNbiVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACfEFw-WY6_CNCFsbwhksALfXv-zbgTEESXNxeYNtfn7xt64vA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANWeTQVdAoOZ2kDRMnuCPO1sd=u5owU9_eeMF=Ht_XgNZdLqMw@mail.gmail.com>

This is glorious, thank you kindly! :)

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:

> From https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#django :
>
> Django?
>> Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Django_(web_framework)
>> Homepage: https://www.djangoproject.com/
>> Src: git https://github.com/django/django
>> PyPI: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django
>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/
>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/testing/
>> Docs: https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/settings/
>> Awesome: https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django
>
>
> https://github.com/rosarior/awesome-django#testing
>
> - http://pyvideo.org/tag/django/
> - https://www.google.com/search?q=site:pyvideo.org+django+test
>
> pytest
> - https://westurner.github.io/wiki/awesome-python-testing#py-test
>
> pytest-django
> - https://github.com/pytest-dev/pytest-django
>   - https://pytest-django.readthedocs.io/en/latest/#why-
> would-i-use-this-instead-of-django-s-manage-py-test-command
>
> - https://github.com/django-debug-toolbar/django-debug-toolbar
>>
>
> Q: Is django-debug-toolbar really an antipattern?
> A: Those really could be assertions in the tests.
>
>
>> - https://www.djangopackages.com/
>>   - https://www.djangopackages.com/grids/g/cms/
>
>
> - https://westurner.github.io/tools/#cookiecutter
>   - https://cookiecutter.readthedocs.org/en/latest/readme.html#available-
> cookiecutters
>     - [...]
>     - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django (Two Scoops of
> Django 1.11)
>       - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-django#features
>         - https://12factor.net/
>         - [...]
>
>     - https://github.com/pydanny/cookiecutter-djangopackage
>
>       - .gitignore, setup.py, Makefile, Travis.yml, Codecov, Tox.ini,
> Sphinx (./docs/{conf.py, index.rst}; ReadTheDocs)
>       - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/intro/reusable-apps/
>
> Fixtures:
>
> - https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.11/howto/initial-
> data/#where-django-finds-fixture-files
>
> - https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/fixtures.html
>
> - https://djangopackages.org/grids/g/fixtures/
>
>   - https://github.com/FactoryBoy/factory_boy/
>     - https://factoryboy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/orms.html#django
>
>
> - https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/tree/
> develop/djangotestapp/testapp
>   - https://github.com/westurner/djangotestapp/blob/develop/
> djangotestapp/testapp/tests.py
>
> - The TOC for these looks great:
>   https://django-testing-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:52 PM, Naomi See via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all I was hoping perhaps you could share resources you found
>> especially
>> helpful with TDD best practices.
>>
>> I currently work with Django/Python and I really want to improve in this
>> aspect because it's incredible important for my sanity and well
>> development.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Naomi-
>> _______________________________________________
>> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
>> Omaha at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
>> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>>
>
>

From bob.haffner at gmail.com  Tue Jun 20 21:59:38 2017
From: bob.haffner at gmail.com (Bob Haffner)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:59:38 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Monthly Meeting Reminder : 6/21 @ 6:30
In-Reply-To: <CAPC5U_mthQEAOXG34g8tLNjsWAkx_s7Eo5C5Fi-ZffT5nkFofQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPC5U_mthQEAOXG34g8tLNjsWAkx_s7Eo5C5Fi-ZffT5nkFofQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPC5U_nUh=Qa8jbM2ROqvP-YYg1MPidQFAS=F4sOm-MOCd6MQg@mail.gmail.com>

The day before reminder :-)

***************************************************

Bill Koslosky will be presenting *Bayesian statistics for healthcare.  *This
will be a 20-30 minute presentation followed by a discussion (Bill is
looking for feedback)
DoSpace - Meeting Room 1

http://www.omahapython.org/blog/archives/event/monthly-
meeting-3?instance_id=41

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Bob Haffner <bob.haffner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Bill Koslosky will be presenting *Bayesian statistics for healthcare.  *This
> will be a 20-30 minute presentation followed by a discussion (Bill is
> looking for feedback)
> DoSpace - Meeting Room 1
>
> http://www.omahapython.org/blog/archives/event/monthly-
> meeting-3?instance_id=41
>
>
>
> Still looking for a July speaker.  Let me know if you have any ideas  :-)
>

From travis42 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 27 10:58:35 2017
From: travis42 at gmail.com (Travis Smith)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 15:58:35 +0100
Subject: [omaha] ThinkSeries
Message-ID: <CAOKi2=OR6c57ws3bV0z429YAPm60LswrU8D7ihtfRXHvRnMo=g@mail.gmail.com>

Pythonistas,

Race me to the finish:
ThinkComplexity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHWhy3PWhes
ThinkBayes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpgiFIGXcT4
ThinkDSP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOIllEyajGs

These serve as 3 hour overviews of the books by the same name.  I've done
the workshop for DSP, and am now starting on Complexity.  Fascinating stuff.

Travis

GPG Key: BFEB 7E65 04EB 184B A150 2E2C CC11 933F EE27 D86E

From Payne at mattpayne.org  Tue Jun 27 14:58:07 2017
From: Payne at mattpayne.org (Matt Payne)
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 18:58:07 +0000
Subject: [omaha] ThinkSeries
In-Reply-To: <CAOKi2=OR6c57ws3bV0z429YAPm60LswrU8D7ihtfRXHvRnMo=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOKi2=OR6c57ws3bV0z429YAPm60LswrU8D7ihtfRXHvRnMo=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOQmnQE+dQe_odxyfTLO2sVV-4SkO4X2zAPkP9zVKCVs744+4Q@mail.gmail.com>

Awesome!   Thanks Travis!!!

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 1:54 PM Travis Smith via Omaha <omaha at python.org>
wrote:

> Pythonistas,
>
> Race me to the finish:
> ThinkComplexity
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHWhy3PWhes
> ThinkBayes
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpgiFIGXcT4
> ThinkDSP
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOIllEyajGs
>
> These serve as 3 hour overviews of the books by the same name.  I've done
> the workshop for DSP, and am now starting on Complexity.  Fascinating
> stuff.
>
> Travis
>
> GPG Key: BFEB 7E65 04EB 184B A150 2E2C CC11 933F EE27 D86E
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From bob.haffner at gmail.com  Fri Jun 30 22:29:21 2017
From: bob.haffner at gmail.com (Bob Haffner)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2017 21:29:21 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Quick survey
Message-ID: <CAPC5U_k-LcJQ-u5ukMXZY=YvX_pT892NizrGS+O_ywnac8AhFA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Steve and I compiled this quick survey aimed at people who don't regularly
attend meetings and/or haven't spoken at one yet.

Please take a couple of minutes to fill it out.  Thanks in advance!

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/MNBJP7K

ps we'll share the responses in a week or two

Bob