From jrguliz at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 16 15:40:08 2014
From: jrguliz at yahoo.com (Joe Gulizia)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 06:40:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [omaha] Python Meeting Tonight?
Message-ID: <1397655608.4478.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

Python Meeting Tonight?

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Wed Apr 16 20:22:21 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:22:21 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Python Meeting Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <1397655608.4478.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <1397655608.4478.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzh+W4aaKJdfbLSre2ZLadpsNQqojkLPEGRr_tZxz6fEpA@mail.gmail.com>

Why not?!  How does Buffalo Wild Wings at 78th and Cass sound?  I think
they have Wifi.

Or reply if you have a better suggestion.

7-9 pm. and let us know if you can make it.

Steve


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Joe Gulizia <
jrguliz at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote:

> Python Meeting Tonight?
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at delasco.com  Wed Apr 16 21:46:34 2014
From: jeffh at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 14:46:34 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Python Meeting Tonight?
In-Reply-To: <CAFGSzzh+W4aaKJdfbLSre2ZLadpsNQqojkLPEGRr_tZxz6fEpA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1397655608.4478.YahooMailNeo@web126206.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
 <CAFGSzzh+W4aaKJdfbLSre2ZLadpsNQqojkLPEGRr_tZxz6fEpA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAHoq1-rUOCFWZKZXOJ8VRNtm7dd+4NhWxovtKs=xuwGfcf254w@mail.gmail.com>

7-9, BWW @ 78th and Cass - gotcha.

See ya there.


-Jeff


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> Why not?!  How does Buffalo Wild Wings at 78th and Cass sound?  I think
> they have Wifi.
>
> Or reply if you have a better suggestion.
>
> 7-9 pm. and let us know if you can make it.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Joe Gulizia <
> jrguliz at yahoo.com.dmarc.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Python Meeting Tonight?
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Apr 17 06:02:08 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 23:02:08 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Multiple python installs or How do I get python 2.4?
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_udziwLW_t7V_=pwJ2ZjUuLeCELOO0eTdx=ksv1=f=+w@mail.gmail.com>

https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pythonbrew/

pythonbrew was what I was trying to remember.

-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From rob.townley at gmail.com  Thu Apr 17 20:31:37 2014
From: rob.townley at gmail.com (Rob Townley)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 13:31:37 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Multiple python installs or How do I get python 2.4?
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_udziwLW_t7V_=pwJ2ZjUuLeCELOO0eTdx=ksv1=f=+w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_udziwLW_t7V_=pwJ2ZjUuLeCELOO0eTdx=ksv1=f=+w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CA+VdTb_mM+HNOpquirqn5iSM6EKxfYnNfcY-cn-zn33hPgV6YQ@mail.gmail.com>

i followed your link which recommended pyenv which offers 110 different
versions of python:

$ ./.pyenv/bin/pyenv install --list | wc
    110     111    1390


$ ./.pyenv/bin/pyenv install --list
Available versions:
  2.4
  2.4.1
  2.4.2
  2.4.3
  2.4.4
  2.4.5
  2.4.6
  2.5
  2.5.1
  2.5.2
  2.5.3
  2.5.4
  2.5.5
  2.5.6
  2.6.6
  2.6.7
  2.6.8
  2.6.9
  2.7
  2.7.1
  2.7.2
  2.7.3
  2.7.4
  2.7.5
  2.7.6
  2.7-dev
  3.0.1
  3.1.3
  3.1.4
  3.1.5
  3.1-dev
  3.2
  3.2.1
  3.2.2
  3.2.3
  3.2.4
  3.2.5
  3.2-dev
  3.3.0
  3.3.1
  3.3.2
  3.3.3
  3.3.4
  3.3.5
  3.3-dev
  3.4.0
  3.4-dev
  anaconda-1.4.0
  anaconda-1.5.0
  anaconda-1.5.1
  anaconda-1.6.0
  anaconda-1.6.1
  anaconda-1.7.0
  anaconda-1.8.0
  anaconda-1.9.0
  anaconda-1.9.1
  anaconda-1.9.2
  ironpython-2.7.4
  ironpython-dev
  jython-2.5.0
  jython-2.5.1
  jython-2.5.2
  jython-2.5.3
  jython-2.5.4-rc1
  jython-2.5-dev
  jython-2.7-beta1
  jython-dev
  miniconda-2.2.2
  miniconda-3.0.0
  miniconda-3.0.4
  miniconda-3.0.5
  miniconda3-2.2.2
  miniconda-3.3.0
  miniconda3-3.0.0
  miniconda3-3.0.4
  miniconda3-3.0.5
  miniconda3-3.3.0
  pypy-1.5
  pypy-1.5-src
  pypy-1.6
  pypy-1.7
  pypy-1.7-dev
  pypy-1.8
  pypy-1.8-dev
  pypy-1.9
  pypy-1.9-dev
  pypy-2.0
  pypy-2.0.1
  pypy-2.0.1-src
  pypy-2.0.2
  pypy-2.0.2-src
  pypy-2.0-dev
  pypy-2.0-src
  pypy-2.1
  pypy-2.1-src
  pypy-2.2
  pypy-2.2.1
  pypy-2.2.1-src
  pypy-2.2-src
  pypy3-2.1-beta1
  pypy3-2.1-beta1-src
  pypy3-dev
  pypy-dev
  stackless-2.7.2
  stackless-2.7-dev
  stackless-3.2.2
  stackless-3.2-dev
  stackless-3.3-dev
  stackless-dev





On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pythonbrew/
>
> pythonbrew was what I was trying to remember.
>
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Thu Apr 17 23:20:21 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 16:20:21 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Multiple python installs or How do I get python 2.4?
In-Reply-To: <CA+VdTb_mM+HNOpquirqn5iSM6EKxfYnNfcY-cn-zn33hPgV6YQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_udziwLW_t7V_=pwJ2ZjUuLeCELOO0eTdx=ksv1=f=+w@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+VdTb_mM+HNOpquirqn5iSM6EKxfYnNfcY-cn-zn33hPgV6YQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO9=QVpbtbDz=jja3k24X5DV47eWSEeNeRUmbuUSBWkMDA@mail.gmail.com>

Well, that ought to keep a person busy! :)

I noticed that python brew was inactive but only since July of last year.
 However, I was sure that something had to take over because Tox
https://pypi.python.org/pypi/tox would not be helpful.  Tox automates
testing/installs against multiple versions of python.  It doesn't install
them it just knows how to switch between them and run installs and tests.
 Holger Krekel, the author of Tox is also the author of py.test.

-j


On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Rob Townley <rob.townley at gmail.com> wrote:

> i followed your link which recommended pyenv which offers 110 different
> versions of python:
>
> $ ./.pyenv/bin/pyenv install --list | wc
>     110     111    1390
>
>
> $ ./.pyenv/bin/pyenv install --list
> Available versions:
>   2.4
>   2.4.1
>   2.4.2
>   2.4.3
>   2.4.4
>   2.4.5
>   2.4.6
>   2.5
>   2.5.1
>   2.5.2
>   2.5.3
>   2.5.4
>   2.5.5
>   2.5.6
>   2.6.6
>   2.6.7
>   2.6.8
>   2.6.9
>   2.7
>   2.7.1
>   2.7.2
>   2.7.3
>   2.7.4
>   2.7.5
>   2.7.6
>   2.7-dev
>   3.0.1
>   3.1.3
>   3.1.4
>   3.1.5
>   3.1-dev
>   3.2
>   3.2.1
>   3.2.2
>   3.2.3
>   3.2.4
>   3.2.5
>   3.2-dev
>   3.3.0
>   3.3.1
>   3.3.2
>   3.3.3
>   3.3.4
>   3.3.5
>   3.3-dev
>   3.4.0
>   3.4-dev
>   anaconda-1.4.0
>   anaconda-1.5.0
>   anaconda-1.5.1
>   anaconda-1.6.0
>   anaconda-1.6.1
>   anaconda-1.7.0
>   anaconda-1.8.0
>   anaconda-1.9.0
>   anaconda-1.9.1
>   anaconda-1.9.2
>   ironpython-2.7.4
>   ironpython-dev
>   jython-2.5.0
>   jython-2.5.1
>   jython-2.5.2
>   jython-2.5.3
>   jython-2.5.4-rc1
>   jython-2.5-dev
>   jython-2.7-beta1
>   jython-dev
>   miniconda-2.2.2
>   miniconda-3.0.0
>   miniconda-3.0.4
>   miniconda-3.0.5
>   miniconda3-2.2.2
>   miniconda-3.3.0
>   miniconda3-3.0.0
>   miniconda3-3.0.4
>   miniconda3-3.0.5
>   miniconda3-3.3.0
>   pypy-1.5
>   pypy-1.5-src
>   pypy-1.6
>   pypy-1.7
>   pypy-1.7-dev
>   pypy-1.8
>   pypy-1.8-dev
>   pypy-1.9
>   pypy-1.9-dev
>   pypy-2.0
>   pypy-2.0.1
>   pypy-2.0.1-src
>   pypy-2.0.2
>   pypy-2.0.2-src
>   pypy-2.0-dev
>   pypy-2.0-src
>   pypy-2.1
>   pypy-2.1-src
>   pypy-2.2
>   pypy-2.2.1
>   pypy-2.2.1-src
>   pypy-2.2-src
>   pypy3-2.1-beta1
>   pypy3-2.1-beta1-src
>   pypy3-dev
>   pypy-dev
>   stackless-2.7.2
>   stackless-2.7-dev
>   stackless-3.2.2
>   stackless-3.2-dev
>   stackless-3.3-dev
>   stackless-dev
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
> <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:
>
> > https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pythonbrew/
> >
> > pythonbrew was what I was trying to remember.
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Mon Apr 28 07:34:24 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 00:34:24 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Announce: YamJam v0.1.6 released
Message-ID: <CALHZEO_T_XAJdQyABHBnJ6E_QeGLfNJ1Zisrr+_3CZDA_DvG5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, so after the last meeting I promised to straighten out yamjam so that
pip would be happy once again.   https://pypi.python.org/pypi/yamjam/

I went and set up CI on drone.io, documents on readthedocs and did battle
with the dragon that is the pypi submission and the long_description of
silently failing RST.

If you are looking to get sensitive data out of your Django settings.py
file or looking to apply DRY principles for your resource config
information you should give yamjam a go.

If you are looking for a good CI service -- I have nice things to say about
drone.io -- Travis, on the other hand, not so much.

apologies for any typos in this message -- I am weary of documenting and
editng ;)  (actually it was the number of bug reports that I filed had me
dismayed)

However, to make this exercise complete, I have to blog about my
experiences.  You can check out my blog later this week or just keep an eye
on Planet Python.

I'd rather be coding ;)

-j
-- 
Best,

Jeff Hinrichs
402.218.1473

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 03:41:30 2014
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 20:41:30 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Announce: YamJam v0.1.6 released
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_T_XAJdQyABHBnJ6E_QeGLfNJ1Zisrr+_3CZDA_DvG5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_T_XAJdQyABHBnJ6E_QeGLfNJ1Zisrr+_3CZDA_DvG5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFGSzzj8z-4tBxRCrjLcU4Sm016xv0d+XQn_9XGra-eEgpAEPQ@mail.gmail.com>

Jeff: Great job so far - I will have some time later this week to write
some tests/docs/whatever.  Although I just looked at the docs and you have
done a lot of work already!

Everyone else - especially Django users juggling dev/staging/production
sites - check out this page in the docs to see how it can help -
http://yamjam.readthedocs.org/en/latest/django-usage.html.  I installed
yamjam before he added the Django docs and it took awhile for me to figure
out how to use it - it is much easier now.

Steve


On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T
<jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Ok, so after the last meeting I promised to straighten out yamjam so that
> pip would be happy once again.   https://pypi.python.org/pypi/yamjam/
>
> I went and set up CI on drone.io, documents on readthedocs and did battle
> with the dragon that is the pypi submission and the long_description of
> silently failing RST.
>
> If you are looking to get sensitive data out of your Django settings.py
> file or looking to apply DRY principles for your resource config
> information you should give yamjam a go.
>
> If you are looking for a good CI service -- I have nice things to say about
> drone.io -- Travis, on the other hand, not so much.
>
> apologies for any typos in this message -- I am weary of documenting and
> editng ;)  (actually it was the number of bug reports that I filed had me
> dismayed)
>
> However, to make this exercise complete, I have to blog about my
> experiences.  You can check out my blog later this week or just keep an eye
> on Planet Python.
>
> I'd rather be coding ;)
>
> -j
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From wes.turner at gmail.com  Tue Apr 29 09:20:56 2014
From: wes.turner at gmail.com (Wes Turner)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 02:20:56 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Announce: YamJam v0.1.6 released
In-Reply-To: <CALHZEO_T_XAJdQyABHBnJ6E_QeGLfNJ1Zisrr+_3CZDA_DvG5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_T_XAJdQyABHBnJ6E_QeGLfNJ1Zisrr+_3CZDA_DvG5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACfEFw-_R42KtH5EodPskzw+1NWmnEZbCQxKxZWSiN4t4BHWgw@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a similar approach: https://github.com/bretth/djset

Note that https://pypi.python.org/pypi/keyring defaults to plaintext
storage:
https://bitbucket.org/kang/python-keyring-lib/issue/117/default-keyring-is-insecure

Wes Turner
On Apr 28, 2014 12:34 AM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com> wrote:

> Ok, so after the last meeting I promised to straighten out yamjam so that
> pip would be happy once again.   https://pypi.python.org/pypi/yamjam/
>
> I went and set up CI on drone.io, documents on readthedocs and did battle
> with the dragon that is the pypi submission and the long_description of
> silently failing RST.
>
> If you are looking to get sensitive data out of your Django settings.py
> file or looking to apply DRY principles for your resource config
> information you should give yamjam a go.
>
> If you are looking for a good CI service -- I have nice things to say about
> drone.io -- Travis, on the other hand, not so much.
>
> apologies for any typos in this message -- I am weary of documenting and
> editng ;)  (actually it was the number of bug reports that I filed had me
> dismayed)
>
> However, to make this exercise complete, I have to blog about my
> experiences.  You can check out my blog later this week or just keep an eye
> on Planet Python.
>
> I'd rather be coding ;)
>
> -j
> --
> Best,
>
> Jeff Hinrichs
> 402.218.1473
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue Apr 29 15:17:59 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:17:59 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Announce: YamJam v0.1.6 released
In-Reply-To: <CACfEFw-_R42KtH5EodPskzw+1NWmnEZbCQxKxZWSiN4t4BHWgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CALHZEO_T_XAJdQyABHBnJ6E_QeGLfNJ1Zisrr+_3CZDA_DvG5Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACfEFw-_R42KtH5EodPskzw+1NWmnEZbCQxKxZWSiN4t4BHWgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALHZEO8p3TjxE_9tLqLRsJ3LRc=d5Rx6p-OgHxBoC+xv3ReqHw@mail.gmail.com>

Similar idea, but YamJam is  python 3.x compatible and runs on 2.6+ (CI
only supports 2.7+)

Encryption is always suspect do to implementation.  plaintext would be more
surprise than I would care to encounter.  No mention of key management --
another problem.   Plus, if a bad actor has access to your file system,
your data is sitting unencrypted in memory and fairly easy to access.
 YamJam doesn't write to disk, so we don't encrypt.  Access is based on
system privilege similar to .ssh (chmod 700) .

Appears to be focused strongly on Django only (models.py and management/)
and a riff on configparser.  YamJam is app agnostic and works well with
Django or your framework of choice.  Simplicity is a great thing.  To use
YamJam you only have to be comfortable with a python dictionary.    I've
used configparser before but don't any more because of the reasons that I
am outlining here.

Default values, as used in djset/configparser encourage single environment
deployment mindset which will cause you grief.  Not to mention forsaking
the ability to  factor out sensitive information.

I believe, if you are dealing with mult-environment deployment (dev / stage
/ production) you will end up liking YamJam more.

Also, I didn't see support for multiple config files (quick scan of code).
 There are edge cases, found in real life, that can be solved simply with
this technique.

YamJam is more than reading settings in from a file, it is a framework that
solves the two most common config file issues -- sensitive config data
leaking into your repos and deployment to dev / staging or testing /
production environments.  If you see code in your app that involves trying
to determine where you are running so it can set configuration data based
on the environment, you have this problem.

I appreciate the feedback and links.  You should give yamjam a try.

Best,

Jeff



On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's a similar approach: https://github.com/bretth/djset
>
> Note that https://pypi.python.org/pypi/keyring defaults to plaintext
> storage:
>
> https://bitbucket.org/kang/python-keyring-lib/issue/117/default-keyring-is-insecure
>
> Wes Turner
> On Apr 28, 2014 12:34 AM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ok, so after the last meeting I promised to straighten out yamjam so that
> > pip would be happy once again.   https://pypi.python.org/pypi/yamjam/
> >
> > I went and set up CI on drone.io, documents on readthedocs and did
> battle
> > with the dragon that is the pypi submission and the long_description of
> > silently failing RST.
> >
> > If you are looking to get sensitive data out of your Django settings.py
> > file or looking to apply DRY principles for your resource config
> > information you should give yamjam a go.
> >
> > If you are looking for a good CI service -- I have nice things to say
> about
> > drone.io -- Travis, on the other hand, not so much.
> >
> > apologies for any typos in this message -- I am weary of documenting and
> > editng ;)  (actually it was the number of bug reports that I filed had me
> > dismayed)
> >
> > However, to make this exercise complete, I have to blog about my
> > experiences.  You can check out my blog later this week or just keep an
> eye
> > on Planet Python.
> >
> > I'd rather be coding ;)
> >
> > -j
> > --
> > Best,
> >
> > Jeff Hinrichs
> > 402.218.1473
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
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From jeffh at dundeemt.com  Tue Apr 29 16:20:01 2014
From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T)
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 09:20:01 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Announce: YamJam v0.1.6 released
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I've been thinking about my response and the unsaid part was that YamJam is
biased towards server apps.  Where as configparser and derivatives are
biased to desktop apps.  In those scenarios, a default for a missing value
makes complete sense and would be a better fit than YamJam.

But the opposite is true too.  YamJam is a better fit for server based
apps, imo.

Best,
Jeff


On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T <jeffh at dundeemt.com>wrote:

> Similar idea, but YamJam is  python 3.x compatible and runs on 2.6+ (CI
> only supports 2.7+)
>
> Encryption is always suspect do to implementation.  plaintext would be
> more surprise than I would care to encounter.  No mention of key management
> -- another problem.   Plus, if a bad actor has access to your file system,
> your data is sitting unencrypted in memory and fairly easy to access.
>  YamJam doesn't write to disk, so we don't encrypt.  Access is based on
> system privilege similar to .ssh (chmod 700) .
>
> Appears to be focused strongly on Django only (models.py and management/)
> and a riff on configparser.  YamJam is app agnostic and works well with
> Django or your framework of choice.  Simplicity is a great thing.  To use
> YamJam you only have to be comfortable with a python dictionary.    I've
> used configparser before but don't any more because of the reasons that I
> am outlining here.
>
> Default values, as used in djset/configparser encourage single environment
> deployment mindset which will cause you grief.  Not to mention forsaking
> the ability to  factor out sensitive information.
>
> I believe, if you are dealing with mult-environment deployment (dev /
> stage / production) you will end up liking YamJam more.
>
> Also, I didn't see support for multiple config files (quick scan of code).
>  There are edge cases, found in real life, that can be solved simply with
> this technique.
>
> YamJam is more than reading settings in from a file, it is a framework
> that solves the two most common config file issues -- sensitive config data
> leaking into your repos and deployment to dev / staging or testing /
> production environments.  If you see code in your app that involves trying
> to determine where you are running so it can set configuration data based
> on the environment, you have this problem.
>
> I appreciate the feedback and links.  You should give yamjam a try.
>
> Best,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 2:20 AM, Wes Turner <wes.turner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here's a similar approach: https://github.com/bretth/djset
>>
>> Note that https://pypi.python.org/pypi/keyring defaults to plaintext
>> storage:
>>
>> https://bitbucket.org/kang/python-keyring-lib/issue/117/default-keyring-is-insecure
>>
>> Wes Turner
>> On Apr 28, 2014 12:34 AM, "Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T" <jeffh at dundeemt.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Ok, so after the last meeting I promised to straighten out yamjam so
>> that
>> > pip would be happy once again.   https://pypi.python.org/pypi/yamjam/
>> >
>> > I went and set up CI on drone.io, documents on readthedocs and did
>> battle
>> > with the dragon that is the pypi submission and the long_description of
>> > silently failing RST.
>> >
>> > If you are looking to get sensitive data out of your Django settings.py
>> > file or looking to apply DRY principles for your resource config
>> > information you should give yamjam a go.
>> >
>> > If you are looking for a good CI service -- I have nice things to say
>> about
>> > drone.io -- Travis, on the other hand, not so much.
>> >
>> > apologies for any typos in this message -- I am weary of documenting and
>> > editng ;)  (actually it was the number of bug reports that I filed had
>> me
>> > dismayed)
>> >
>> > However, to make this exercise complete, I have to blog about my
>> > experiences.  You can check out my blog later this week or just keep an
>> eye
>> > on Planet Python.
>> >
>> > I'd rather be coding ;)
>> >
>> > -j
>> > --
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Jeff Hinrichs
>> > 402.218.1473
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>
> Jeff Hinrichs
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>


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Jeff Hinrichs
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