From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 23:25:50 2010
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:25:50 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django and bigtables
Message-ID: <AANLkTik-vSRe98esthLsZtQm5b07cyfMA0RPO5Gwi5v+@mail.gmail.com>

I just read a post about Google App Engine and
Django<http://www.franciscosouza.net/2010/08/flying-with-django-in-google-app-engine.html>.
The part I found most interesting was a project which aims to bring the
power of the Django model layer to non-relational databases (i.e. Bigtable)
called django-nonrel
project<http://www.allbuttonspressed.com/projects/django-nonrel>.
It helped me to see the difference between relational and non-relational
databases, and a way to work around trying to use Django with GAE.

-- 
--Steve Young

From newz at bearfruit.org  Tue Aug  3 01:09:55 2010
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:09:55 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django and bigtables
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik-vSRe98esthLsZtQm5b07cyfMA0RPO5Gwi5v+@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik-vSRe98esthLsZtQm5b07cyfMA0RPO5Gwi5v+@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikt2PFjtaMNCJMjck5UL8G6ePqH=wp=2EeRA=w_@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> I just read a post about Google App Engine and
> Django<
> http://www.franciscosouza.net/2010/08/flying-with-django-in-google-app-engine.html
> >.
> The part I found most interesting was a project which aims to bring the
> power of the Django model layer to non-relational databases (i.e. Bigtable)
> called django-nonrel
> project<http://www.allbuttonspressed.com/projects/django-nonrel>.
> It helped me to see the difference between relational and non-relational
> databases, and a way to work around trying to use Django with GAE.
>

I did a project with the predecessor to this project, the app-engine patch.
It worked well except for two problems:

Because of the number of files involved it's deployed as a zip file. The
first time the site is accessed there's a 6-7 second start-up delay.
Unfortunately, the site is unloaded from memory after 1-2 min of inactivity,
so unless your site is very busy, lots of people experience this long
start-up delay.

The second problem is that a few days before I deployed my site the authors
abandoned the project to start the django-nonrel project. That was kind
of disappointing.

Since then the GAE stuff I've done has used the built in web framework that
works fine for simple tasks.

I've experimented with App Engine Oil and Web2Py, both of these support GAE
out of the box. Web2Py works well on other platforms than GAE so you could
use it as a tool and if you decide you dont like GAE you can switch w/
little effort.

-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter

"Never stop learning" ?Robert Nuzum (My dad)

From cybersean3000 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 20:34:59 2010
From: cybersean3000 at gmail.com (Sean Edwards)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 13:34:59 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Next Meeting
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=OS1XSSC2k5oP=EBmjM-OMNpajFM4i3vy=0oMi@mail.gmail.com>

When and where is the next meeting?

-=Sean Edwards=-

From choman at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 22:48:40 2010
From: choman at gmail.com (Chad Homan)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 15:48:40 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Next Meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=OS1XSSC2k5oP=EBmjM-OMNpajFM4i3vy=0oMi@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=OS1XSSC2k5oP=EBmjM-OMNpajFM4i3vy=0oMi@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikwLHjGo_YxYbbJekQuUDq1JPFcv18hHN+kAji1@mail.gmail.com>

Monday 16th 7pm @ Lansky's on 50th & L


Chad, CISSP


On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sean Edwards <cybersean3000 at gmail.com>wrote:

> When and where is the next meeting?
>
> -=Sean Edwards=-
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>

From jeffh at delasco.com  Fri Aug  6 23:52:58 2010
From: jeffh at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:52:58 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Next Meeting
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikwLHjGo_YxYbbJekQuUDq1JPFcv18hHN+kAji1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=OS1XSSC2k5oP=EBmjM-OMNpajFM4i3vy=0oMi@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikwLHjGo_YxYbbJekQuUDq1JPFcv18hHN+kAji1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSpjKAL2f-03BErs8eVdc-KRPyBapPT17T92-S@mail.gmail.com>

Chad or Steve,  would you mind posting the next meeting info to the site?

Thanks!

-Jeff



On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Chad Homan <choman at gmail.com> wrote:

> Monday 16th 7pm @ Lansky's on 50th & L
>
>
> Chad, CISSP
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Sean Edwards <cybersean3000 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > When and where is the next meeting?
> >
> > -=Sean Edwards=-
> > _______________________________________________
> > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> > Omaha at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> > http://www.OmahaPython.org
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From jmoseman01 at gmail.com  Mon Aug 16 02:20:54 2010
From: jmoseman01 at gmail.com (jesse)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 19:20:54 -0500
Subject: [omaha] pygtk question
Message-ID: <1281918054.2687.3.camel@jesse-laptop>

I want to make an application using pygtk using 2 listboxes side by side
deliminated by a space inbetween with 2 arrow keys.  the 1st listbox
will have a series of entries and to add to the other side and the
second will have items moved over that you can remove by selecting it
and pressing the <- arrow.

My question is does pygtk even have listboxes XD i know they have combo
boxes but do they have listboxes?

please send me a link if you know where the documentation on a listbox
is.


From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Mon Aug 16 17:54:25 2010
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 10:54:25 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Tonight's meeting
Message-ID: <AANLkTikGis8sgC9HaJr=HWdbLp1xYwv_gNj5jGENubYx@mail.gmail.com>

I am planning to be there, anyone else coming?

-- 
--Steve Young

From wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com  Mon Aug 16 22:12:28 2010
From: wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com (Steve Young)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:12:28 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django and bigtables
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikt2PFjtaMNCJMjck5UL8G6ePqH=wp=2EeRA=w_@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik-vSRe98esthLsZtQm5b07cyfMA0RPO5Gwi5v+@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikt2PFjtaMNCJMjck5UL8G6ePqH=wp=2EeRA=w_@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikgcj8HMacvbHY6n=GC+Y0MVEDr9JORRSFAvmim@mail.gmail.com>

I was very tempted to try Web2Py, but ended up with Django because of the
abundance of resources for learning and addons.  Once I get some more
experience I will most likely give Web2Py a go.  Thanks.

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Matthew Nuzum <newz at bearfruit.org> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 4:25 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I just read a post about Google App Engine and
> > Django<
> >
> http://www.franciscosouza.net/2010/08/flying-with-django-in-google-app-engine.html
> > >.
> > The part I found most interesting was a project which aims to bring the
> > power of the Django model layer to non-relational databases (i.e.
> Bigtable)
> > called django-nonrel
> > project<http://www.allbuttonspressed.com/projects/django-nonrel>.
> > It helped me to see the difference between relational and non-relational
> > databases, and a way to work around trying to use Django with GAE.
> >
>
> I did a project with the predecessor to this project, the app-engine patch.
> It worked well except for two problems:
>
> Because of the number of files involved it's deployed as a zip file. The
> first time the site is accessed there's a 6-7 second start-up delay.
> Unfortunately, the site is unloaded from memory after 1-2 min of
> inactivity,
> so unless your site is very busy, lots of people experience this long
> start-up delay.
>
> The second problem is that a few days before I deployed my site the authors
> abandoned the project to start the django-nonrel project. That was kind
> of disappointing.
>
> Since then the GAE stuff I've done has used the built in web framework that
> works fine for simple tasks.
>
> I've experimented with App Engine Oil and Web2Py, both of these support GAE
> out of the box. Web2Py works well on other platforms than GAE so you could
> use it as a tool and if you decide you dont like GAE you can switch w/
> little effort.
>
> --
> Matthew Nuzum
> newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter
>
> "Never stop learning" ?Robert Nuzum (My dad)
> _______________________________________________
> Omaha Python Users Group mailing list
> Omaha at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha
> http://www.OmahaPython.org
>



-- 
--Steve Young

From newz at bearfruit.org  Mon Aug 16 22:20:15 2010
From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:20:15 -0500
Subject: [omaha] Django and bigtables
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikgcj8HMacvbHY6n=GC+Y0MVEDr9JORRSFAvmim@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTik-vSRe98esthLsZtQm5b07cyfMA0RPO5Gwi5v+@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikt2PFjtaMNCJMjck5UL8G6ePqH=wp=2EeRA=w_@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikgcj8HMacvbHY6n=GC+Y0MVEDr9JORRSFAvmim@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=Pr+Est7j+U+Tt1FrWLQ+t0HVgF9d+vS2ypz0s@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Steve Young <wereapwhatwesow at gmail.com>wrote:

> I was very tempted to try Web2Py, but ended up with Django because of the
> abundance of resources for learning and addons.  Once I get some more
> experience I will most likely give Web2Py a go.  Thanks.
>
>
I'd be interested in hearing how it goes. Since I've written this email I've
kind of given up on web2py, though I've not actually deployed a project with
it.

I would be excited to hear that the performance problems I found with GAE
and Django are now resolved.

-- 
Matthew Nuzum
newz2000 on freenode, skype, linkedin, identi.ca and twitter

"Never stop learning" ?Robert Nuzum (My dad)

From dwblas at gmail.com  Mon Aug 16 23:09:24 2010
From: dwblas at gmail.com (David Blaschke)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 14:09:24 -0700
Subject: [omaha] Omaha Digest, Vol 42, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1281952805.4291.omaha@python.org>
References: <mailman.25.1281952805.4291.omaha@python.org>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimM_Zi3Cw0exH_7X-0MDRAvUMVwvPYdLnoTAHo_@mail.gmail.com>

You can use a single column table.  As I don't use pygtk that much, I
have never tried to dig deeper
http://www.pygtk.org/pygtk2tutorial/sec-TablePackingExample.html

David

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> I want to make an application using pygtk using 2 listboxes side by side
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> will have a series of entries and to add to the other side and the
> second will have items moved over that you can remove by selecting it
> and pressing the <- arrow.
>
> My question is does pygtk even have listboxes XD i know they have combo
> boxes but do they have listboxes?
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> please send me a link if you know where the documentation on a listbox
> is.
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