From jeffh at dundeemt.com Tue May 1 04:46:44 2007 From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:46:44 -0500 Subject: [omaha] Door Prize for the May 10 meeting Message-ID: <5aaed53f0704301946h8860c07s6a4b57ddd23b98e0@mail.gmail.com> Good News! Thanks to O'Reilly, door prizes for the next couple of meetings arrived today! * Python in a Nutshell, 2nd ed. * Programming Python, 3rd ed. I'll randomly select one of the two for the May meeting and then the remaining for the June. So now we are lined up for food/soda's and a prize for the May meeting. Looks to be a good meeting from that angle. -- Jeff Hinrichs From jeffh at dundeemt.com Wed May 2 02:55:26 2007 From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:55:26 -0500 Subject: [omaha] Pyjamas - GWT ala Python Message-ID: <5aaed53f0705011755yde83348n80534112cd4a6e48@mail.gmail.com> I'm sitting in on the Dynamic Users Group tonight and there is a talk about Google Web Toolkit -- which reminded me of pyjamas. http://pyjamas.pyworks.org/ The basic idea of GWT is to use java to produce ajaxian web 2.0 pages instead of directly writing javascript. Pyjamas started almost immediately after the launch of GWT. Same idea, just scratch Java and insert Python. In fact Pyjamas "stole" the idea from GWT. Hello World app: http://pyjamas.pyworks.org/examples/helloworld/output/Hello.html http://pyjamas.googlecode.com/svn/releases/0.1/examples/helloworld/Hello.py Kitchen Sinks: http://pyjamas.pyworks.org/examples/kitchensink/output/KitchenSink.html Has anyone done more than play with either? -- Jeff Hinrichs From jeffh at dundeemt.com Wed May 2 04:46:30 2007 From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 21:46:30 -0500 Subject: [omaha] Python in the Browser - brought to you by Microsoft? Message-ID: <5aaed53f0705011946k1f0ea85cje9eacc653c16525e@mail.gmail.com> Who would have guessed that MS would be the first to really put python in the browser? I know you can jump through hoops to make a browser support python but it was not something you could do for a public website. There have been a bunch of announcements in the past couple of days about IronPython and SilverLight -- will they beat firefox? Personally, I'm giddy about the prospect of using Python instead of javascript. John Udell's blog entry tonight specifically mentions that exact combination. http://blog.jonudell.net/2007/05/01/watching-anders-hejlsberg-reinvent-the-relationship-between-programs-and-data/ Finally, things are starting to get exciting again. -- Jeff Hinrichs From jeffh at dundeemt.com Tue May 8 05:20:42 2007 From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 22:20:42 -0500 Subject: [omaha] ANN: Omaha Python Users Group Meeting, May 10 Message-ID: <5aaed53f0705072020l201f8beeg68ce26f3aa9a74b8@mail.gmail.com> It's time for another get together! May 10, 2007 - 7pm Door Prize: + There will be a door prize for this meeting! Topics: + Testing in Python: Nosetest + Lightning Talks (subprocess, cheetah) Discuss possible additional monthly lunch meeting Location: Reboot The User [[WWW] map] 13416 A Street Omaha, NE 68144 Refreshments: + Pizza and Pop sponsored by DM&T. Please make sure and mail the list with toppings and flavor requests for the meeting. -- Jeff Hinrichs http://www.OmahaPython.org From jeffh at dundeemt.com Fri May 11 06:47:43 2007 From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 23:47:43 -0500 Subject: [omaha] May 10 -- User Group Meeting Notes Message-ID: <5aaed53f0705102147y5bcac8dfvf6557cf8da8dc65e@mail.gmail.com> May 10, 2007 Well now, that was quite a meeting. We ended up not talking about any of the announced subjects so it was a very good meeting. (I like spontaneous talks) Eli made an appearance tonight (http://eli.criffield.net/ ) and for a sysadmin who doesn't "program", Eli has produced some pretty interesting python projects. sipie ( http://freshmeat.net/projects/sipie/ ), Pronounced SY PIE, like "sirius python", sipie is a command line player for Sirius online Internet streaming We also talked about using private certs and CA's, the different python based packages and use them with the twisted framework[WWW] http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/. Eli hammered out the details and did something with twisted that not many knew was possible. Thanks for sharing -- Very Cool. As with previous meetings, kudos to Jay and Reboot The User for graciously donating the space for the gathering. The new executive conference room is nearing completion -- we will be stylin' then. Also, props to Todd for covering the pizza guy before I got there. Pizza and Pop sponsored by DM&T. And finally, thanks to O'Reilly (Marsee) for the great door prize. Eli, even won the door prize, "Programming Python" by Mark Lutz. Mark your calendars early, June 14, and don't miss out on the fun. Here is gCal link so you can add it to your calendar. http://www.google.com/calendar/render?cid=epouplrdducr6atraggiflnfeg%40group.calendar.google.com We'll be giving away a copy of "Python in a Nutshell", 3rd Edition for a door prize. There will be food and drink and hopefully many more "lightning" talks about projects by local python developers. There is a rumor that we might get a sneak peek (and play) with a beta unit mame based gaming console (think arcade size console). -Jeff www.OmahaPython.org From jeff at taupro.com Fri May 11 13:54:32 2007 From: jeff at taupro.com (Jeff Rush) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 06:54:32 -0500 Subject: [omaha] Hello from Dallas Message-ID: <46445978.9040402@taupro.com> Greetings! Although I'm in Dallas rather than Omaha, as advocacy coordinator for Python and organizer of the Dallas usergroup, I thought I'd look in on you folks. We're looking to collect ideas on solutions and problems that usergroups have, and share them with others. If there is anything others can do to promote your group, please let me know. I'm in the process of setting up a group blog so that groups can broadcast status updates of their activities, and we're brainstorming on eventually funding a traveling roadshow of Python speakers, to visit usergroups. -Jeff From eli at criffield.net Mon May 14 21:20:21 2007 From: eli at criffield.net (Eli Criffield) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 14:20:21 -0500 Subject: [omaha] May 10 -- User Group Meeting Notes In-Reply-To: <5aaed53f0705102147y5bcac8dfvf6557cf8da8dc65e@mail.gmail.com> References: <5aaed53f0705102147y5bcac8dfvf6557cf8da8dc65e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18e3f33d0705141220q78ab3a8axeedf07287880fed4@mail.gmail.com> It was close but i managed to win the door prize. I'm tell ya you guys are missing out. Its hard to beat free pizza, soda, an oreilly book and intelligent conversation. Maybe we should invite the perl users group to join us, and try to convert them... I got the SSL Cert Verification stuff we talked about ironed out and emailed twisted-python with a short howto: http://twistedmatrix.com/pipermail/twisted-python/2007-May/015357.html Unfortunately thats only relevant if your using twisted, but if your building server stuff why aren't you using twisted? Jeff talked about his "Super Cron" like application, which has lots of similarity to my yet to be named project of building a report management protocal using xmlrpc. We defiantly need to work together and see where we can share some code on that. Thanks again for organizing the meeting and hope to see more of you there next time. Eli Criffield On 5/10/07, Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T wrote: > May 10, 2007 > Well now, that was quite a meeting. We ended up not talking about any > of the announced subjects so it was a very good meeting. (I like > spontaneous talks) Eli made an appearance tonight > (http://eli.criffield.net/ ) and for a sysadmin who doesn't "program", > Eli has produced some pretty interesting python projects. sipie ( > http://freshmeat.net/projects/sipie/ ), Pronounced SY PIE, like > "sirius python", sipie is a command line player for Sirius online > Internet streaming > > We also talked about using private certs and CA's, the different > python based packages and use them with the twisted framework[WWW] > http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/. Eli hammered out the details and did > something with twisted that not many knew was possible. Thanks for > sharing -- Very Cool. > > As with previous meetings, kudos to Jay and Reboot The User for > graciously donating the space for the gathering. The new executive > conference room is nearing completion -- we will be stylin' then. > Also, props to Todd for covering the pizza guy before I got there. > Pizza and Pop sponsored by DM&T. > > And finally, thanks to O'Reilly (Marsee) for the great door prize. > Eli, even won the door prize, "Programming Python" by Mark Lutz. > > Mark your calendars early, June 14, and don't miss out on the fun. > Here is gCal link so you can add it to your calendar. > http://www.google.com/calendar/render?cid=epouplrdducr6atraggiflnfeg%40group.calendar.google.com > > We'll be giving away a copy of "Python in a Nutshell", 3rd Edition for > a door prize. There will be food and drink and hopefully many more > "lightning" talks about projects by local python developers. There is > a rumor that we might get a sneak peek (and play) with a beta unit > mame based gaming console (think arcade size console). > > -Jeff > www.OmahaPython.org > _______________________________________________ > Omaha Python Users Group mailing list > Omaha at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/omaha > http://www.OmahaPython.org > From jay at jays.net Tue May 15 05:29:27 2007 From: jay at jays.net (Jay Hannah) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:29:27 -0500 Subject: [omaha] May 10 -- User Group Meeting Notes In-Reply-To: <18e3f33d0705141220q78ab3a8axeedf07287880fed4@mail.gmail.com> References: <5aaed53f0705102147y5bcac8dfvf6557cf8da8dc65e@mail.gmail.com> <18e3f33d0705141220q78ab3a8axeedf07287880fed4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <37285874-4CB0-4439-B86C-A3D7BE8A1AF0@jays.net> On May 14, 2007, at 2:20 PM, Eli Criffield wrote: > Maybe we should invite the perl users group to join us, and try to > convert them... Feel free to drop by and convert us. :) I'm in Australia in June. I'll try to make it to the July meeting. j Omaha Perl Mongers: http://omaha.pm.org/ From jeffh at dundeemt.com Wed May 16 05:36:46 2007 From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:36:46 -0500 Subject: [omaha] Hello from Dallas In-Reply-To: <46445978.9040402@taupro.com> References: <46445978.9040402@taupro.com> Message-ID: <5aaed53f0705152036x65815888h754da68cbdc8103f@mail.gmail.com> On 5/11/07, Jeff Rush wrote: > Greetings! > > Although I'm in Dallas rather than Omaha, as advocacy coordinator for Python > and organizer of the Dallas usergroup, I thought I'd look in on you folks. > We're looking to collect ideas on solutions and problems that usergroups have, > and share them with others. > > If there is anything others can do to promote your group, please let me know. > I'm in the process of setting up a group blog so that groups can broadcast > status updates of their activities, and we're brainstorming on eventually > funding a traveling roadshow of Python speakers, to visit usergroups. > > -Jeff I think that the group blog is a good idea -- do you know if it will end up as a feed on planet python? -Jeff From jeff at taupro.com Wed May 16 12:21:24 2007 From: jeff at taupro.com (Jeff Rush) Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 05:21:24 -0500 Subject: [omaha] Hello from Dallas In-Reply-To: <5aaed53f0705152036x65815888h754da68cbdc8103f@mail.gmail.com> References: <46445978.9040402@taupro.com> <5aaed53f0705152036x65815888h754da68cbdc8103f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <464ADB24.4010606@taupro.com> Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T wrote: > On 5/11/07, Jeff Rush wrote: >> >> If there is anything others can do to promote your group, please let me know. >> I'm in the process of setting up a group blog so that groups can broadcast >> status updates of their activities, and we're brainstorming on eventually >> funding a traveling roadshow of Python speakers, to visit usergroups. > I think that the group blog is a good idea -- do you know if it will > end up as a feed on planet python? Yes, I had Andrew Kuchling add it to planet.python.org last night. I haven't yet added it to planetpython.org, the unofficial aggregator. It will interesting what to write to the blog -- something that relates to those in the local group but also that is relevant or interesting to the community at large. I'll be writing up a meeting summary of our recent coding session, with links to the example source, for those who didn't attend or wonder whether it is worth going. -Jeff From jeffh at dundeemt.com Sat May 19 17:06:33 2007 From: jeffh at dundeemt.com (Jeff Hinrichs - DM&T) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 10:06:33 -0500 Subject: [omaha] [python-advocacy] virtual servers for Python user groups In-Reply-To: References: <372338.33466.qm@web54504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <43c8685c0705182255m1de73009j8a81456d036b73ed@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5aaed53f0705190806y1d84bcfbg2d91cd592c895c4@mail.gmail.com> On 5/19/07, Brad Allen wrote: > At 3:55 PM +1000 5/19/07, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > >+1 from me. > > > >Also would recommend a "meta" user group to monitor and keep in > >touch with groups making use of this service. A simple system like a > >Google Group should be plenty. There is a lack of 'play areas' for > >putting Python web apps. > > It appears that such a mailing list on python.org has already been > created by Jeff Rush: > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/group-organizers > > It's a new list, with no postings; hopefully we can attract user > group organizers to join and compare notes, to learn what other > groups are doing, and to provide mutual support. > _______________________________________________ > Advocacy mailing list > Advocacy at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/advocacy > +1 from me. To date, we've been using the wiki as web space, it has been a good starting point, but it would be nice to have a virtual server for each users group for the afore mentioned activities. Not that I'm against google/yahoo type resources, but for Users Groups I prefer not requiring membership in a given email system to use the resources. It leads to an unnecessary and unwanted proliferation of email accounts, diminishing the value of each. Also, some members have strong feelings about the use of these types of email services and their privacy -- I'm not arguing the pro or con of this, it's that I respect their opinions and I want to use services that don't require one to have a google/yahoo/et al email account to take advantage of them. To that end, I've taken advantage of the email list hosted by python.org and the wiki space. A virtual server for the group would be a valuable resource, especially if it is grouped with other UG servers -- who knows what kinds of wonderful resources might bloom because of it? -- Jeff Hinrichs www.OmahaPython.org From JeffH at delasco.com Thu May 31 17:16:58 2007 From: JeffH at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 10:16:58 -0500 Subject: [omaha] Python Design Patterns @ Google Developer Days Message-ID: <94BC3D204A17734681830A69CBF99993DF7A68@lilo.delasco.pri> Alex Martelli will be speaking @ Google Developer Days http://code.google.com/events/developerday/mv-sessions.html#python_desig n_patterns You can view it live on-line @ 5:30pm tonight. http://code.google.com/events/developerday/webcast-schedule.html From JeffH at delasco.com Thu May 31 20:49:03 2007 From: JeffH at delasco.com (Jeff Hinrichs) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:49:03 -0500 Subject: [omaha] ANN: Paid Internship w/ Python Message-ID: <94BC3D204A17734681830A69CBF99993DF7A70@lilo.delasco.pri> If anyone is interested in a paid internship - we've got an opening where I work and we are python fans. Contact me off list for details. -Jeff