[Numpy-discussion] grant proposal for core scientific Python projects (rejected)

[Stephen Waterbury]

P.S.  If anyone wants to continue this discussion at SciPy 2019,
I will be there (on my own nickel!  ;) ...

Steve

On 5/2/19 9:45 PM, Stephen Waterbury wrote:

> I am a NASA pythonista (for 20+ years ;), but you can now say you know
> yet another person at NASA who has no idea this even exists ... :)
> Not only do I not know of that, but I know of NASA policies that make
> it very difficult for NASA civil servants to contribute to open source
> projects -- quite hypocritical, given the amount of open source
> code that NASA (like all other large organizations) depends critically
> on, but it's a fact.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve Waterbury
>
> (CLEARLY **NOT** SPEAKING IN ANY OFFICIAL CAPACITY FOR NASA OR
> THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AS A WHOLE!  Hence the personal email
> address. :)
>
> On 5/2/19 9:31 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal wrote:
>
>> Sounds like this is a NASA specific thing, in which case, I guess 
>> someone at NASA would need to step up.
>>
>> I’m afraid I know no pythonistas at NASA.
>>
>> But I’ll poke around NOAA to see if there’s anything similar.
>>
>> -CHB
>>
>> On Apr 25, 2019, at 1:04 PM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:ralf.gommers at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 12:41 PM Ralf Gommers 
>>> <ralf.gommers at gmail.com <mailto:ralf.gommers at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 10:03 PM Joe Harrington
>>>     <jh at physics.ucf.edu <mailto:jh at physics.ucf.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         3. There's such a thing as a share-in-savings contract at
>>>         NASA, in which
>>>         you calculate a savings, such as from avoided costs of
>>>         licensing IDL or
>>>         Matlab, and say you'll develop a replacement for that
>>>         product that costs
>>>         less, in exchange for a portion of the savings.  These are
>>>         rare and few
>>>         people know about them, but one presenter to the committee
>>>         did discuss
>>>         them and thought they'd be appropriate. I've always felt
>>>         that we could
>>>         get a chunk of change this way, and was surprised to find
>>>         that the
>>>         approach exists and has a name.  About 3 of 4 people I talk
>>>         to at NASA
>>>         have no idea this even exists, though, and I haven't pursued
>>>         it to its
>>>         logical end to see if it's viable.
>>>
>>>
>>>     I've heard of these. Definitely worth looking into.
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems to be hard to find any information about these 
>>> share-in-savings contracts. The closest thing I found is this: 
>>> https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/06/22/2018-13463/nasa-federal-acquisition-regulation-supplement-removal-of-reference-to-the-shared-savings-policy-and
>>>
>>> It is called "Shared Savings" there, and was replaced last year by 
>>> something called "Value Engineering Change Proposal". If anyone can 
>>> comment on whether that's the same thing as Joe meant and whether 
>>> this is worth following up on, that would be very helpful.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ralf
>>>
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