[Numpy-discussion] Should I use pip install numpy in linux?

[Ralf Gommers]

On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal <
chris.barker at noaa.gov> wrote:

>
> > 2) continue to support those users fairly poorly, and at substantial
> > ongoing cost
>
> I'm curious what the cost is for this poor support -- throw the source
> up on PyPi, and we're done. The cost comes in when trying to build
> binaries...
>

I'm sure Nathaniel means the cost to users of failed installs and of numpy
losing users because of that, not the cost of building binaries.

> Option 1 would require overwhelming consensus of the community, which
> > for better or worse is presumably not going to happen while
> > substantial portions of that community are still using pip/PyPI.
>
> Are they? Which community are we talking about? The community I'd like
> to target are web developers that aren't doing what they think of as
> "scientific" applications, but could use a little of the SciPy stack.
> These folks are committed to pip, and are very reluctant to introduce
> a difficult dependency.  Binary wheels would help these folks, but
> that is not a community that exists yet ( or it's small, anyway)
>
> All that being said, I'd be happy to see binary wheels for the core
> SciPy stack on PyPi. It would be nice for people to be able to do a
> bit with Numpy or pandas, it MPL, without having to jump ship to a
> whole new way of doing things.
>

This is indeed exactly why we need binary wheels. Efforts to provide those
will not change our strong recommendation to our users that they're better
off using a scientific Python distribution.

Ralf
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