[Numpy-discussion] Should I use pip install numpy in linux?

[Steve Waterbury]

On 01/15/2016 05:19 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Steve Waterbury
> <waterbug at pangalactic.us> wrote:
>> On 01/15/2016 05:07 PM, Matthew Brett wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I attribute
>>>> some of the conda-ignoring to "NIH" and, to some extent,
>>>> possibly defensiveness (I would be defensive too if I had been
>>>> working on pip as long as they had when conda came along ;).
>>>
>>>
>>> I must say, I don't personally recognize those reasons.  For example,
>>> I hadn't worked on pip at all before conda came along.
>>
>>
>> By "working on pip", I was referring to *developers* of pip,
>> not those who *use* pip for packaging things.  Are you
>> contributing to the development of pip, or merely using it
>> for creating packages?
>
> Sorry - I assumed you were taking about us here on the list planning
> to build Linux and Windows wheels.

No, I was definitely *not* talking about those on the list
planning to build Linux and Windows wheels when I referred to
the folks "working on pip".  However, that said, I *completely*
agree with Travis's remark:

"The other very real downside is that these efforts to promote
numpy as wheels further encourages people to not use the
better solution that already exists in conda."

 > It certainly doesn't seem surprising to me that the pip developers
 > would continue to develop pip rather than switch to conda.  Has there
 > been any attempt to persuade the pip developers to do this?

Not that I know of, but as I said, I have asked pip developers and
core python developers for their opinions on conda, and my
impression has always been one of, shall we say, a circling of the
wagons.  Yes, even the nice guys in the python community (and I've
know some of them a *long* time) sometimes do that ... ;)

Cheers,
Steve