[Numpy-discussion] Remove bento from numpy

Ralf Gommers ralf.gommers at gmail.com
Sat Jul 5 18:42:41 EDT 2014


On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Nathaniel Smith <njs at pobox.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 5 Jul 2014 09:23, "Ralf Gommers" <ralf.gommers at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Perhaps a compromise would be to declare it officially unsupported and
> >> remove it from Travis CI, while leaving the files in place to be used
> on an
> >> at-your-own-risk basis? As long as it's in Travis, the default is that
> >> anyone who breaks it has to fix it. If it's not in Travis, then the
> default
> >> is that the people (person?) who use bento are responsible for keeping
> it
> >> working for their needs.
> >
> > -1 that just means that simple changes like adding a new extension will
> not
> > get made before PRs get merged, and bento support will be in a broken
> state
> > much more often.
>
> Yes, and then the handful of people who care about this would fix it
> or not.


What next, we give Alan Isaac commit rights and then it's OK to break
numpy.matrix when that's convenient?


> Your -1 is attempting to veto other people's *not* paying
> attention to this build system. I... don't think -1's work that way
> :-(
>

You're proposing it'll be OK for others to break stuff that the people
before them put quite some effort into implementing. I damn well have the
right to give that a -1.

David is fixing the few existing problems now, so there should be zero
issues here. You're deliberately mischaracterizing the situation
(pre-alpha, lot of effort, etc.), so I'm not going to bother responding to
the rest, I'm annoyed enough as is.

Ralf

P.S. if anyone wants to spend some productive energy on the build
situation, MSVC 2010 support for Python 3.x would be nice:
https://github.com/numpy/numpy/issues/4245
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