[Numpy-discussion] Getting non-normalized eigenvectors from generalized eigenvalue solution?

Fahreddın Basegmez mangabasi at gmail.com
Tue Dec 20 22:05:06 EST 2011


I don't think I can do that.  I can go to the normalized results but not
the other way.


On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Olivier Delalleau <shish at keba.be> wrote:

> Hmm, sorry, I don't see any obvious logic that would explain how Octave
> obtains this result, although of course there is probably some logic...
>
> Anyway, since you seem to know what you want, can't you obtain the same
> result by doing whatever un-normalizing operation you are after?
>
>
> -=- Olivier
>
> 2011/12/20 Fahreddın Basegmez <mangabasi at gmail.com>
>
>> I should include the scipy response too I guess.
>>
>>
>> scipy.linalg.eig(STIFM, MASSM)
>> (array([ 3937.15984097+0.j,  3937.15984097+0.j,  3937.15984097+0.j,
>>         3923.07692308+0.j,  3923.07692308+0.j,  7846.15384615+0.j]),
>> array([[ 1.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.],
>>         [ 0.,  1.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.],
>>        [ 0.,  0.,  1.,  0.,  0.,  0.],
>>        [ 0.,  0.,  0.,  1.,  0.,  0.],
>>        [ 0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  1.,  0.],
>>        [ 0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  1.]]))
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Fahreddın Basegmez <mangabasi at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> If I can get the same response as Matlab I would be all set.
>>>
>>>
>>> Octave results
>>>
>>> >> STIFM
>>> STIFM =
>>>
>>> Diagonal Matrix
>>>
>>>      1020        0        0        0        0        0
>>>         0     1020        0        0        0        0
>>>         0        0     1020        0        0        0
>>>         0        0        0   102000        0        0
>>>         0        0        0        0   102000        0
>>>         0        0        0        0        0   204000
>>>
>>> >> MASSM
>>> MASSM =
>>>
>>> Diagonal Matrix
>>>
>>>     0.25907          0          0          0          0          0
>>>           0    0.25907          0          0          0          0
>>>           0          0    0.25907          0          0          0
>>>           0          0          0   26.00000          0          0
>>>           0          0          0          0   26.00000          0
>>>           0          0          0          0          0   26.00000
>>>
>>> >> [a, b] = eig(STIFM, MASSM)
>>> a =
>>>
>>>    0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   1.96468   0.00000   0.00000
>>>    0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   1.96468   0.00000
>>>    0.00000   0.00000   1.96468   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
>>>    0.19612   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
>>>    0.00000   0.19612   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000
>>>    0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.00000   0.19612
>>>
>>> b =
>>>
>>> Diagonal Matrix
>>>
>>>    3923.1        0        0        0        0        0
>>>         0   3923.1        0        0        0        0
>>>         0        0   3937.2        0        0        0
>>>         0        0        0   3937.2        0        0
>>>         0        0        0        0   3937.2        0
>>>         0        0        0        0        0   7846.2
>>>
>>>
>>> Numpy Results
>>>
>>> >>> STIFM
>>> array([[   1020.,       0.,       0.,       0.,       0.,       0.],
>>>        [      0.,    1020.,       0.,       0.,       0.,       0.],
>>>        [      0.,       0.,    1020.,       0.,       0.,       0.],
>>>        [      0.,       0.,       0.,  102000.,       0.,       0.],
>>>        [      0.,       0.,       0.,       0.,  102000.,       0.],
>>>        [      0.,       0.,       0.,       0.,       0.,  204000.]])
>>>
>>> >>> MASSM
>>>
>>> array([[  0.25907,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.
>>> ],
>>>        [  0.     ,   0.25907,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.
>>> ],
>>>        [  0.     ,   0.     ,   0.25907,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.
>>> ],
>>>        [  0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,  26.     ,   0.     ,   0.
>>> ],
>>>        [  0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,  26.     ,   0.
>>> ],
>>>        [  0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,   0.     ,  26.
>>> ]])
>>>
>>> >>> a, b = linalg.eig(dot( linalg.pinv(MASSM), STIFM))
>>>
>>> >>> a
>>>
>>> array([ 3937.15984097,  3937.15984097,  3937.15984097,  3923.07692308,
>>>         3923.07692308,  7846.15384615])
>>>
>>> >>> b
>>>
>>> array([[ 1.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.],
>>>        [ 0.,  1.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.],
>>>        [ 0.,  0.,  1.,  0.,  0.,  0.],
>>>        [ 0.,  0.,  0.,  1.,  0.,  0.],
>>>        [ 0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  1.,  0.],
>>>        [ 0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  0.,  1.]])
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Olivier Delalleau <shish at keba.be>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hmm... ok ;) (sorry, I can't follow you there)
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, what kind of non-normalization are you after? I looked at the
>>>> doc for Matlab and it just says eigenvectors are not normalized, without
>>>> additional details... so it looks like it could be anything.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -=- Olivier
>>>>
>>>> 2011/12/20 Fahreddın Basegmez <mangabasi at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> I am computing normal-mode frequency response of a mass-spring system.
>>>>>  The algorithm I am using requires it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Olivier Delalleau <shish at keba.be>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm probably missing something, but... Why would you want
>>>>>> non-normalized eigenvectors?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -=- Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011/12/20 Fahreddın Basegmez <mangabasi at gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it possible to get non-normalized eigenvectors from
>>>>>>> scipy.linalg.eig(a, b)?  Preferably just by using  numpy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW, Matlab/Octave provides this with its eig(a, b) function but I
>>>>>>> would like to use numpy for obvious reasons.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fahri
>>>>>>>
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