[Numpy-discussion] NumPy SVN broken

Charles R Harris charlesr.harris at gmail.com
Thu Oct 8 00:01:05 EDT 2009


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Travis Oliphant <oliphant at enthought.com>wrote:

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> On Oct 7, 2009, at 3:06 AM, David Cournapeau wrote:
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> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:31 AM, Charles R Harris
> <charlesr.harris at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Looks like a clue ;)
>
>
> Ok, I fixed it here:
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> http://github.com/cournape/numpy/tree/fix_abi
>
> But that's an ugly hack. I think we should consider rewriting how we
> generate the API: instead of automatically growing the API array of
> fptr, we should explicitly mark which function name has which index,
> and hardcode it. It would help quite a bit to avoid changing the ABI
> unvoluntary.
>
>
> I apologize for the mis communication that has occurred here.   I did not
> understand that there was a desire to keep ABI compatibility with NumPy 1.3
> when NumPy 1.4 was released.    The datetime merge was made under that
> presumption.
>
> I had assumed that people would be fine with recompilation of extension
> modules that depend on the NumPy C-API.    There are several things that
> needed to be done to merge in new fundamental data-types.
>
> Why don't we call the next release NumPy 2.0 if that helps things?
>  Personally, I'd prefer that over hacks to keep ABI compatibility.   It
> feels like we are working very hard to track ABI issues that can also be
> handled with dependency checking and good package management.
>
>
I was that the code generator shifted the API order because it was inserting
the new types after the old types but before the other API functions. It's a
code generator problem and doesn't call for a jump in major version. We hope
;) I think David's hack, which looks to have been committed by Stefan,
should fix things up.

Chuck
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