[Neuroimaging] Site Discussion

Wed Aug 26 21:20:43 CEST 2015

Eleftherios, it's good that you express concern because that means that you
care about nipy, and we can work together to ensure that the vision is
properly reflected in this site. It's typically not a straight path to
converge on the right solution, and I think that it's ok we are needing to
try different things. If it isn't too troubling to you, please let me
implement what I have in mind, and then we can move forward with discussion
on the points of content.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:09 PM, vanessa sochat <vsochat at stanford.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Eleftherios,
>
> A framework like Django is too heavy for a simple portal and blog, and we
> want to stay away from making something substantial that requires regular
> maintenance and care, and an actual server. We can achieve all the
> functionality of comments / social media, etc by integrating a blogging
> platform into a site that works on Github pages. Question b (sites
> included) and c (organization vision) needs discussion from everyone, and
> for the rest, here are my thoughts:
>
> a) What the portal is about? We need to reach consensus. This is currently
>> vague.
>>
>> A simple portal that gives nipy a brand, links to its products, and
> integrates some platform for us to easily write about it. If something more
> substantial than that is desired, then we first need to resolve where it
> will be hosted and who takes responsibility for its life.
>
>
>> c) How the website and e-mail lists/forums will benefit and promote the
>> work and the vision of this organization.
>>
>> For the work - the website blog will afford all the things that blogs
> afford: sharing ideas, examples, links, social media integration, etc.
>
>
>> d) Make some decisions on the technologies that we can use to support a,
>> b, c.
>>
>> Again, this is more about hosting and responsibility.
>
>
>> (b) is critical because for example I saw that you added in the website
>> projects which are not currently under our
>> github organization https://github.com/nipy. I think we need consensus
>> to take such a decisions.
>>
>> You should consider all current content on the site as Lorem Ipsum etc. I
> simply reproduced what is on the current site and did not make any
> "decisions." As I said earlier, content and template come *after* getting
> the site functioning.
>
>
>> (c) is also much related to Matthew's e-mail for supporting or not
>> Neurostars for answering questions about the NIPY
>> projects. This information and whatever we decide must be highlighted
>> clearly in the portal.
>>
>> Lorem,.. ipsum...
>
> :)
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:54 PM, vanessa sochat <vsochat at stanford.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> exactly :)
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwzg7SYZKF0
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Ariel Rokem <arokem at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry - didn't see that one for some reason.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Vanessa Villamia Sochat <
>>>> vsochat at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought more about this on my walk - here is a reasonable game plan!
>>>>> I will do the work to put together a solution that integrates Ariel's
>>>>> original vision with ghpages, the parts of Jekyll that do work, and a more
>>>>> non developer friendly integrated blog. I think this could meet all of our
>>>>> goals and be a solution that better integrates social aspects of our
>>>>> community - github just doesn't specialize in blogging but many services
>>>>> do. If that does not work, then we can go to Sphinx. Boum!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Bada-boum!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I will send out an update likely during weekend time when I've tested
>>>>> some things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best,
>>>>>
>>>>> Vanessa
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Aug 26, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Matthew Brett <matthew.brett at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:10 PM, vanessa sochat <
>>>>> vsochat at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>>> >> Hi Group,
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Ben and I are having some discussion on the higher level goals of
>>>>> the site,
>>>>> >> and want to bring everyone in. In summary, we want something that
>>>>> is easy to
>>>>> >> contribute content to, and has continuous integration for previewing
>>>>> >> updates. I am wondering, what was wrong with the initial look of
>>>>> the site?
>>>>> >> Was it that sphinx is hard to update?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Actually, I think that sphinx is a very good option, and most other
>>>>> > scientific Python sites use sphinx for their main pages.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The particular template that we were using was a little dated and
>>>>> > ugly, but I bet that could be improved.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Most if not all developers are perfectly capable of building the
>>>>> > sphinx documentation locally to preview it, but we can also do what
>>>>> > other projects are doing, and build / publish the docs in some
>>>>> > temporary place for each commit, using an entry in the travis-ci
>>>>> > matrix of jobs.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I think Ariel was particularly attracted to Jekyll / github pages,
>>>>> > because it is very easy to get a rendered version to look at with a
>>>>> > git push, and although that is generally desirable, I think building
>>>>> /
>>>>> > reviewing locally is at least as important.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > So - if it were entirely up to me - I would prefer we go back to
>>>>> > sphinx, on the basis that it is a very familiar workflow to most
>>>>> > Python developers.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Thanks very much for doing all this work by the way - it's very
>>>>> > helpful, and I'm sorry that we are going round and round.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > See you,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Matthew
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