[moin-user] Moin no longer in debian stable?

[Lukasz Szybalski]

Hello,
We need to pick a lane.

a) Either convert moin1.9 to python 3, and re-release stable as is.
(knowing we have to release 1.9.py3-bugfixes if any later.
or
b) Release moin 2.0 if its stable enough as new stable.

Otherwise we risk total loss of confidence in the moin project and eventual
death.

As it is right now, my own site is down and soon google will forget all my
ranking and bye bye 10 years of content work.

So which shall it be?

Who can or assist in doing a or b?

Thanks
Lucas


On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 8:37 PM Keith Lofstrom <keithl at kl-ic.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 07:28:28PM -0500, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
>
> >    I use moinmoin in lucasmanual.com
> >    I see the package is not in debian stable anymore?
> >
> >    Can someone tell me why not, and what needs to get done to bring it
> back?
>
> There is no debian stable moin.moin package anymore,
> but with the sage advice of gentleman and scholar Paul
> Boddie, there are two workarounds.
>
> Moin 2.0 is somewhere over the rainbow, not available
> for practical purposes.  Existing Moin 1.x deployments
> will probably need a lot of tweaking to be compatible
> with Moin 2.0 (eventually), a process I dread.
>
> Moin 1.x depends on Python 2, which is no longer being
> updated - all the Kool Kids are using Python 3.
>
> However - python2 is still available for LTS versions of
> Debian, such as the Ubuntu 20.04 LTS distro I am deploying
> on my Rimuhosting virtual server.
>
> To make moin 1,x use python2, perhaps all I need to do
> is change the first line of  /usr/local/bin/moin
>
> from #! /usr/bin/python
> to   #! /usr/bin/python2
>
> Moin will not install as a debian package, but it can still
> be built from "source".  Perhaps we can write simplified
> install procedures for our own flavors of Debian.  Perhaps
> some clever person can create a .deb package, which we can
> share privately.
>
> Gentleman Paul also works on moinlight, a python script
> that creates static html web pages out of a deployed
> moin instance.
>
> Though I use moin as my virtual web notebook, I can set
> up a moinlight based script to create a separate set of
> URLs on my server that serve up static "release" versions
> of my work, directing the web searchbots to those.  I also
> hope to create archival DVDs with static content on them.
>
> And if Moin 1.x/python 2 develops a critical security flaw,
> I can edit on a private server and deploy only static html.
>
> That's all hypothetical for now - I haven't finished
> setting up my new server.  However, if we struggle
> through this transition together, we can learn from
> each other's successes and failures.  I will contribute
> plenty of failures ... :-)
>
> Keith
>
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