From scofield at calvin.edu  Sun Aug  1 08:03:57 2010
From: scofield at calvin.edu (Thomas Scofield)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 08:03:57 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
Message-ID: <E9AD8CE8-AFA8-447C-98B1-4B6B852FE0F0@calvin.edu>


I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup".  It seemed  
to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would provide me  
with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and was only a  
couple of tweaks away from being complete.

What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty  
simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite  
baffled.

  - Where do I put the superuser line?
	There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems to
	be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py.  I added it there
	anyway, but don't see how to give a password.

This is supposed to be simple, right?  I can't get this done to find  
out what comes next (language setup).


Thomas L. Scofield
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Associate Professor
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Calvin College
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From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  1 10:55:51 2010
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 07:55:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <E9AD8CE8-AFA8-447C-98B1-4B6B852FE0F0@calvin.edu>
Message-ID: <128504.4316.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, it is supposed to be simple.? Part of the problem is you have to leave the page to complete the steps.

>From the languageSetup page, click the Login link.? From the Login page, click the "you can create one now" link to create a new login ID.

Once you have a login id, then you can use that ID in the superuser line.? For a personal desktop edition wiki, you add the superuser line to the ./wikiconfig.py file (as you have already done).

Restart the server and return to the LanguageSetup page.? Login with your superuser ID and proceed with the language setup.

I think the "desktop edition" is intended for a single wiki rather than a farm.? Maybe someone else can correct me or provide additional help.

Roger Haase 



--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:

From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 5:03 AM


I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup". ?It seemed to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would provide me with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and was only a couple of tweaks away from being complete.
What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite baffled.
?- Where do I put the superuser line?	There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems to	be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py. ?I added it there	anyway, but don't see how to give a password.
This is supposed to be simple, right? ?I can't get this done to find out what comes next (language setup).

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From scofield at calvin.edu  Sun Aug  1 13:33:09 2010
From: scofield at calvin.edu (Thomas Scofield)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 13:33:09 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <128504.4316.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <128504.4316.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <18AD917A-593B-4C14-8A70-5CDA5FA8AC8A@calvin.edu>


Thanks.  That got me where I wanted to go for initial setup.   
Depending on how adept I become with this, I may want to setup wikis  
for my college students, and in that instance I'll want to go the  
route of a multi-wiki setup.  I don't yet know if I'll prefer  
developing my contribution to those pages locally on my machine and  
transferring them to a server, but probably not initially.  When it  
comes to course pages, I think I'll have to set up a multi-wiki  
MoinMoin on a server without having root privileges.

That brings me to my other as-yet unanswered question.  I presume  
others have asked questions about such a setup that will be relevant  
to me.  How does one search the moin-user archives using keywords?

Thomas Scofield



On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Roger Haase wrote:

> Yes, it is supposed to be simple.  Part of the problem is you have  
> to leave the page to complete the steps.
>
> >From the languageSetup page, click the Login link.  From the Login  
> page, click the "you can create one now" link to create a new login  
> ID.
>
> Once you have a login id, then you can use that ID in the superuser  
> line.  For a personal desktop edition wiki, you add the superuser  
> line to the ./wikiconfig.py file (as you have already done).
>
> Restart the server and return to the LanguageSetup page.  Login with  
> your superuser ID and proceed with the language setup.
>
> I think the "desktop edition" is intended for a single wiki rather  
> than a farm.  Maybe someone else can correct me or provide  
> additional help.
>
> Roger Haase
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 5:03 AM
>
>
> I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup".  It  
> seemed to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would  
> provide me with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and  
> was only a couple of tweaks away from being complete.
>
> What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty  
> simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite  
> baffled.
>
>  - Where do I put the superuser line?
> 	There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems  
> to
> 	be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py.  I added it there
> 	anyway, but don't see how to give a password.
>
> This is supposed to be simple, right?  I can't get this done to find  
> out what comes next (language setup).
>
>
> Thomas L. Scofield
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Associate Professor
> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
> Calvin College
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
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> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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Calvin College
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From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  1 16:14:44 2010
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 13:14:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <18AD917A-593B-4C14-8A70-5CDA5FA8AC8A@calvin.edu>
Message-ID: <794995.37334.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Assuming you are here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=moin-user

Well,
 you would think you could just enter a search term and click the big 
green button... But no, you must first mouse over the "Mailing Lists" 
thingy and click on Search in the dropdown.

The form that comes 
up has its own problems -- it looks like you can select one of the two 
mailing lists to limit the search.? But if you do you will get 0 hits.

Roger Haase

--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:

From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 10:33 AM


Thanks. ?That got me where I wanted to go for initial setup. ?Depending on how adept I become with this, I may want to setup wikis for my college students, and in that instance I'll want to go the route of a multi-wiki setup. ?I don't yet know if I'll prefer developing my contribution to those pages locally on my machine and transferring them to a server, but probably not initially. ?When it comes to course pages, I think I'll have to set up a multi-wiki MoinMoin on a server without having root privileges.
That brings me to my other as-yet unanswered question. ?I presume others have asked questions about such a setup that will be relevant to me. ?How does one search the moin-user archives using keywords?
Thomas Scofield


On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Roger Haase wrote:
Yes, it is supposed to be simple.? Part of the problem is you have to leave the page to complete the steps.

>From the languageSetup page, click the Login link.? From the Login page, click the "you can create one now" link to create a new login ID.

Once you have a login id, then you can use that ID in the superuser line.? For a personal desktop edition wiki, you add the superuser line to the ./wikiconfig.py file (as you have already done).

Restart the server and return to the LanguageSetup page.? Login with your superuser ID and proceed with the language setup.

I think the "desktop edition" is intended for a single wiki rather than a farm.? Maybe someone else can correct me or provide additional help.

Roger Haase 



--- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:

From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 5:03 AM


I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup". ?It seemed to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would provide me with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and was only a couple of tweaks away from being complete.
What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite baffled.
?- Where do I put the superuser line?	There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems to	be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py. ?I added it there	anyway, but don't see how to give a password.
This is supposed to be simple, right? ?I can't get this done to find out what comes next (language setup).

 Thomas L. Scofield--------------------------------------------------------Associate ProfessorDepartment of Mathematics and StatisticsCalvin College-------------------------------------------------------- 

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From kai at aplteam.com  Tue Aug  3 02:41:11 2010
From: kai at aplteam.com (Kai Jaeger)
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2010 07:41:11 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <794995.37334.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <18AD917A-593B-4C14-8A70-5CDA5FA8AC8A@calvin.edu>
	<794995.37334.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikgMoCsWne2rSUODrqgJKz8hVRPB5dav_OvzhRJ@mail.gmail.com>

This is unbelievable! I tried this four or five times and never
succeeded in finding anything, and because I was under time pressure
then (I had a problem at hand!) I decided to write to the mailing list
instead which in 99% of the cases provided a solution to my problem.

Why is that not improved?

Anyway, thanks a lot Roger
Kai


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 21:14, Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Assuming you are here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=moin-user
>
> Well, you would think you could just enter a search term and click the big green button... But no, you must first mouse over the "Mailing Lists" thingy and click on Search in the dropdown.
>
> The form that comes up has its own problems -- it looks like you can select one of the two mailing lists to limit the search.? But if you do you will get 0 hits.
>
> Roger Haase
>
> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 10:33 AM
>
>
> Thanks. ?That got me where I wanted to go for initial setup. ?Depending on how adept I become with this, I may want to setup wikis for my college students, and in that instance I'll want to go the route of a multi-wiki setup. ?I don't yet know if I'll prefer developing my contribution to those pages locally on my machine and transferring them to a server, but probably not initially. ?When it comes to course pages, I think I'll have to set up a multi-wiki MoinMoin on a server without having root privileges.
> That brings me to my other as-yet unanswered question. ?I presume others have asked questions about such a setup that will be relevant to me. ?How does one search the moin-user archives using keywords?
> Thomas Scofield
>
>
> On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Roger Haase wrote:
>
> Yes, it is supposed to be simple.? Part of the problem is you have to leave the page to complete the steps.
>
> >From the languageSetup page, click the Login link.? From the Login page, click the "you can create one now" link to create a new login ID.
>
> Once you have a login id, then you can use that ID in the superuser line.? For a personal desktop edition wiki, you add the superuser line to the ./wikiconfig.py file (as you have already done).
>
> Restart the server and return to the LanguageSetup page.? Login with your superuser ID and proceed with the language setup.
>
> I think the "desktop edition" is intended for a single wiki rather than a farm.? Maybe someone else can correct me or provide additional help.
>
> Roger Haase
>
>
>
> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 5:03 AM
>
>
> I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup". ?It seemed to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would provide me with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and was only a couple of tweaks away from being complete.
> What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite baffled.
> ?- Where do I put the superuser line?
> There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems to
> be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py. ?I added it there
> anyway, but don't see how to give a password.
> This is supposed to be simple, right? ?I can't get this done to find out what comes next (language setup).
>
> Thomas L. Scofield
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Associate Professor
> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
> Calvin College
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>
>
> Thomas L. Scofield
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Associate Professor
> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
> Calvin College
> --------------------------------------------------------
>
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>



From r.bauer at fz-juelich.de  Wed Aug  4 05:24:52 2010
From: r.bauer at fz-juelich.de (ReimarBauer)
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:24:52 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikgMoCsWne2rSUODrqgJKz8hVRPB5dav_OvzhRJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18AD917A-593B-4C14-8A70-5CDA5FA8AC8A@calvin.edu>	<794995.37334.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikgMoCsWne2rSUODrqgJKz8hVRPB5dav_OvzhRJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <i3bbkv$c4j$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 03.08.2010 08:41, Kai Jaeger wrote:
> This is unbelievable! I tried this four or five times and never
> succeeded in finding anything, and because I was under time pressure
> then (I had a problem at hand!) I decided to write to the mailing list
> instead which in 99% of the cases provided a solution to my problem.
> 
> Why is that not improved?
> 
> Anyway, thanks a lot Roger
> Kai
> 

I often use news.gmane.org for news in thunderbird. Instead of writing
to the mailing list for urgent questions it is may be easier to ask on
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat and wait until one answers.

cheers
Reimar




> 
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 21:14, Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Assuming you are here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=moin-user
>>
>> Well, you would think you could just enter a search term and click the big green button... But no, you must first mouse over the "Mailing Lists" thingy and click on Search in the dropdown.
>>
>> The form that comes up has its own problems -- it looks like you can select one of the two mailing lists to limit the search.  But if you do you will get 0 hits.
>>
>> Roger Haase
>>
>> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>>
>> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
>> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 10:33 AM
>>
>>
>> Thanks.  That got me where I wanted to go for initial setup.  Depending on how adept I become with this, I may want to setup wikis for my college students, and in that instance I'll want to go the route of a multi-wiki setup.  I don't yet know if I'll prefer developing my contribution to those pages locally on my machine and transferring them to a server, but probably not initially.  When it comes to course pages, I think I'll have to set up a multi-wiki MoinMoin on a server without having root privileges.
>> That brings me to my other as-yet unanswered question.  I presume others have asked questions about such a setup that will be relevant to me.  How does one search the moin-user archives using keywords?
>> Thomas Scofield
>>
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Roger Haase wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it is supposed to be simple.  Part of the problem is you have to leave the page to complete the steps.
>>
>> >From the languageSetup page, click the Login link.  From the Login page, click the "you can create one now" link to create a new login ID.
>>
>> Once you have a login id, then you can use that ID in the superuser line.  For a personal desktop edition wiki, you add the superuser line to the ./wikiconfig.py file (as you have already done).
>>
>> Restart the server and return to the LanguageSetup page.  Login with your superuser ID and proceed with the language setup.
>>
>> I think the "desktop edition" is intended for a single wiki rather than a farm.  Maybe someone else can correct me or provide additional help.
>>
>> Roger Haase
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>>
>> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
>> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 5:03 AM
>>
>>
>> I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup".  It seemed to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would provide me with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and was only a couple of tweaks away from being complete.
>> What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite baffled.
>>  - Where do I put the superuser line?
>> There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems to
>> be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py.  I added it there
>> anyway, but don't see how to give a password.
>> This is supposed to be simple, right?  I can't get this done to find out what comes next (language setup).
>>
>> Thomas L. Scofield
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>> Calvin College
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moin-user mailing list
>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
>>
>> Thomas L. Scofield
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>> Calvin College
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moin-user mailing list
>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moin-user mailing list
>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user





From rb.proj at googlemail.com  Wed Aug  4 05:20:36 2010
From: rb.proj at googlemail.com (ReimarBauer)
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 11:20:36 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikgMoCsWne2rSUODrqgJKz8hVRPB5dav_OvzhRJ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <18AD917A-593B-4C14-8A70-5CDA5FA8AC8A@calvin.edu>	<794995.37334.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTikgMoCsWne2rSUODrqgJKz8hVRPB5dav_OvzhRJ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C5930E4.10000@googlemail.com>

On 03.08.2010 08:41, Kai Jaeger wrote:
> This is unbelievable! I tried this four or five times and never
> succeeded in finding anything, and because I was under time pressure
> then (I had a problem at hand!) I decided to write to the mailing list
> instead which in 99% of the cases provided a solution to my problem.
> 
> Why is that not improved?
> 
> Anyway, thanks a lot Roger
> Kai

me uses the news reader of thunderbird
(news.gmane.org)

cheers
Reimar



> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 21:14, Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Assuming you are here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=moin-user
>>
>> Well, you would think you could just enter a search term and click the big green button... But no, you must first mouse over the "Mailing Lists" thingy and click on Search in the dropdown.
>>
>> The form that comes up has its own problems -- it looks like you can select one of the two mailing lists to limit the search.  But if you do you will get 0 hits.
>>
>> Roger Haase
>>
>> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>>
>> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
>> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 10:33 AM
>>
>>
>> Thanks.  That got me where I wanted to go for initial setup.  Depending on how adept I become with this, I may want to setup wikis for my college students, and in that instance I'll want to go the route of a multi-wiki setup.  I don't yet know if I'll prefer developing my contribution to those pages locally on my machine and transferring them to a server, but probably not initially.  When it comes to course pages, I think I'll have to set up a multi-wiki MoinMoin on a server without having root privileges.
>> That brings me to my other as-yet unanswered question.  I presume others have asked questions about such a setup that will be relevant to me.  How does one search the moin-user archives using keywords?
>> Thomas Scofield
>>
>>
>> On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Roger Haase wrote:
>>
>> Yes, it is supposed to be simple.  Part of the problem is you have to leave the page to complete the steps.
>>
>> >From the languageSetup page, click the Login link.  From the Login page, click the "you can create one now" link to create a new login ID.
>>
>> Once you have a login id, then you can use that ID in the superuser line.  For a personal desktop edition wiki, you add the superuser line to the ./wikiconfig.py file (as you have already done).
>>
>> Restart the server and return to the LanguageSetup page.  Login with your superuser ID and proceed with the language setup.
>>
>> I think the "desktop edition" is intended for a single wiki rather than a farm.  Maybe someone else can correct me or provide additional help.
>>
>> Roger Haase
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>>
>> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
>> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 5:03 AM
>>
>>
>> I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup".  It seemed to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would provide me with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and was only a couple of tweaks away from being complete.
>> What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite baffled.
>>  - Where do I put the superuser line?
>> There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems to
>> be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py.  I added it there
>> anyway, but don't see how to give a password.
>> This is supposed to be simple, right?  I can't get this done to find out what comes next (language setup).
>>
>> Thomas L. Scofield
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>> Calvin College
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moin-user mailing list
>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
>>
>> Thomas L. Scofield
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>> Associate Professor
>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>> Calvin College
>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moin-user mailing list
>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moin-user mailing list
>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user





From bleketux at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 05:34:08 2010
From: bleketux at gmail.com (MSulchan Darmawan)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 16:34:08 +0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Unable to delete attachment
In-Reply-To: <i2rop4$2tp$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <20100729181624.46dd6101@mc19>
	<i2rop4$2tp$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20100804163408.2e50fbcd@mc19>

On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 13:30:44 +0200
"R.Bauer" <rb.proj at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I use Ubuntu 8.04.4 and a very old moin version 1.5.8 :D  
> 
> read http://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes and update.

After patching the security fixes, now the problem's dissapear.
Thanks again.

-- 
Cheers,
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From kai at aplteam.com  Wed Aug  4 07:05:08 2010
From: kai at aplteam.com (Kai Jaeger)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:05:08 +0100
Subject: [Moin-user] beginner questions
In-Reply-To: <4C5930E4.10000@googlemail.com>
References: <18AD917A-593B-4C14-8A70-5CDA5FA8AC8A@calvin.edu>
	<794995.37334.qm@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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Very useful - thanks

Kai

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:20, ReimarBauer <rb.proj at googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 03.08.2010 08:41, Kai Jaeger wrote:
>> This is unbelievable! I tried this four or five times and never
>> succeeded in finding anything, and because I was under time pressure
>> then (I had a problem at hand!) I decided to write to the mailing list
>> instead which in 99% of the cases provided a solution to my problem.
>>
>> Why is that not improved?
>>
>> Anyway, thanks a lot Roger
>> Kai
>
> me uses the news reader of thunderbird
> (news.gmane.org)
>
> cheers
> Reimar
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 21:14, Roger Haase <crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Assuming you are here: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=moin-user
>>>
>>> Well, you would think you could just enter a search term and click the big green button... But no, you must first mouse over the "Mailing Lists" thingy and click on Search in the dropdown.
>>>
>>> The form that comes up has its own problems -- it looks like you can select one of the two mailing lists to limit the search. ?But if you do you will get 0 hits.
>>>
>>> Roger Haase
>>>
>>> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
>>> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 10:33 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. ?That got me where I wanted to go for initial setup. ?Depending on how adept I become with this, I may want to setup wikis for my college students, and in that instance I'll want to go the route of a multi-wiki setup. ?I don't yet know if I'll prefer developing my contribution to those pages locally on my machine and transferring them to a server, but probably not initially. ?When it comes to course pages, I think I'll have to set up a multi-wiki MoinMoin on a server without having root privileges.
>>> That brings me to my other as-yet unanswered question. ?I presume others have asked questions about such a setup that will be relevant to me. ?How does one search the moin-user archives using keywords?
>>> Thomas Scofield
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 1, 2010, at 10:55 AM, Roger Haase wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, it is supposed to be simple. ?Part of the problem is you have to leave the page to complete the steps.
>>>
>>> >From the languageSetup page, click the Login link. ?From the Login page, click the "you can create one now" link to create a new login ID.
>>>
>>> Once you have a login id, then you can use that ID in the superuser line. ?For a personal desktop edition wiki, you add the superuser line to the ./wikiconfig.py file (as you have already done).
>>>
>>> Restart the server and return to the LanguageSetup page. ?Login with your superuser ID and proceed with the language setup.
>>>
>>> I think the "desktop edition" is intended for a single wiki rather than a farm. ?Maybe someone else can correct me or provide additional help.
>>>
>>> Roger Haase
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Sun, 8/1/10, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> From: Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] beginner questions
>>> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 5:03 AM
>>>
>>>
>>> I guess we have a different perspective of "complex setup". ?It seemed to me that the route I was going was pretty simple, would provide me with the ability to do multiple wikis like I wanted, and was only a couple of tweaks away from being complete.
>>> What I had done following the "Quickstart" instructions was pretty simple as far as it went, but the Languagesetup page has me quite baffled.
>>> ?- Where do I put the superuser line?
>>> There's a line like this in wiki/config/wikiconfig.py, but it seems to
>>> be purposefully absent from ./wikiconfig.py. ?I added it there
>>> anyway, but don't see how to give a password.
>>> This is supposed to be simple, right? ?I can't get this done to find out what comes next (language setup).
>>>
>>> Thomas L. Scofield
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> Associate Professor
>>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>>> Calvin College
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moin-user mailing list
>>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas L. Scofield
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>> Associate Professor
>>> Department of Mathematics and Statistics
>>> Calvin College
>>> --------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>>> -----Inline Attachment Follows-----
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moin-user mailing list
>>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Moin-user mailing list
>>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
>> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
>> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
>> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
>> _______________________________________________
>> Moin-user mailing list
>> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> The Palm PDK Hot Apps Program offers developers who use the
> Plug-In Development Kit to bring their C/C++ apps to Palm for a share
> of $1 Million in cash or HP Products. Visit us here for more details:
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/dev2dev-palm
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>



From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Aug  4 08:55:33 2010
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:55:33 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] RST & Pygments & CodeMirror
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTintjyr3-qiSZ95oNe9hVxBnwCUUD-sk0dF=1KKO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinvqGyN3fPVabFwp4914BEU_XPocH8z+xZHX-kK@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100729135700.GA30358@ubuntu>
	<AANLkTintjyr3-qiSZ95oNe9hVxBnwCUUD-sk0dF=1KKO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1280926533.31191.7.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

Hi Nic,

I don't know if Dmitry Andreev already contacted you (he is the
developer doing ReST converters for moin2 as a Summer of Code project)
or if you had a look into moin2 on your own.

It would be quite interesting to have some advanced stuff like you did
in moin2 also, so feel invited in case you're interested.

moin2 is very different from moin 1.x, so it isn't just about applying a
patch.

Maybe you want to join us on IRC?

Some links:

http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0

http://moinmo.in/GoogleSoc2010

http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat

Cheers,

Thomas




From lsmoke at hrcsb.org  Wed Aug  4 10:37:31 2010
From: lsmoke at hrcsb.org (LeVon Smoker)
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:37:31 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] Indexing macro-generated pages
Message-ID: <4C597B2B.9060006@hrcsb.org>

Is there a way to get moin to index (through Xapian) the output
generated by a macro? Currently, it appears to index only the actual
text of the macro.

In particular, I'd like to index the output generated by the DataBase macro.

Thanks.
-- 
LeVon S.



From EKotlyarov at vivonet.com  Wed Aug  4 11:48:56 2010
From: EKotlyarov at vivonet.com (Eugene Kotlyarov)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 08:48:56 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] Html5 video
Message-ID: <57B9FD15790FA0438DB4357BD9449AD80438B0D8@Autoexchange.vivonet.com>

Hi everyone

 

Is it possible to embed video in MoinMoin using Html5 video tag?

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From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Aug  5 08:36:15 2010
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 14:36:15 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Html5 video
In-Reply-To: <57B9FD15790FA0438DB4357BD9449AD80438B0D8@Autoexchange.vivonet.com>
References: <57B9FD15790FA0438DB4357BD9449AD80438B0D8@Autoexchange.vivonet.com>
Message-ID: <1281011775.4256.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>



> Is it possible to embed video in MoinMoin using Html5 video tag?

moin 1.x is emitting html4 (and there is no way to easy make it emit
x(ht)ml(5)).

moin 2 (pre-alpha and in heavy development currently) is emitting html5
and a few days ago I added a converter for video/audio -> dom -> html5
video/audio tag. It works. :)

It already uses this to show video/audio items of these types: ogg,
webm, mp4 / ogg, mp3, wav (we can easily add more if there is good
browser support for other formats).

Embedding these items into another item does not work yet, but it'll
work soon (after I have worked on the "include" converter that will do a
target dom-tree into current dom-tree inclusion for that).






From ivan at ffii.org  Thu Aug  5 12:15:15 2010
From: ivan at ffii.org (Ivan F. Villanueva B.)
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 18:15:15 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] expected time for moin 2; donations to the project
In-Reply-To: <1281011775.4256.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>
References: <57B9FD15790FA0438DB4357BD9449AD80438B0D8@Autoexchange.vivonet.com>
	<1281011775.4256.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>
Message-ID: <20100805161515.GD2718@heliosgridmind>

* Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> [2010-08-05 14:37]:

> moin 2 (pre-alpha and in heavy development currently) is emitting html5
> and a few days ago I added a converter for video/audio -> dom -> html5
> video/audio tag. It works. :)

Sounds terrific. When is moin 2 expected to be production ready?

I was wondering how can one help without coding or investing time at the moment, and have seen

    http://moinmo.in/Donations

As I'm allocated in Germany, it is a pity you don't have a public benefit association (in German:
gemeinn?tzig) to accept tax deducted donations. I you had, you would get much more (>30%) for
the very same donated money.

-- 
Ivan Villanueva
Initiator: http://StopSoftwarePatents.eu



From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Aug  6 06:54:07 2010
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 12:54:07 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] expected time for moin 2; donations to the project
In-Reply-To: <20100805161515.GD2718@heliosgridmind>
References: <57B9FD15790FA0438DB4357BD9449AD80438B0D8@Autoexchange.vivonet.com>
	<1281011775.4256.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>
	<20100805161515.GD2718@heliosgridmind>
Message-ID: <1281092047.11589.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>

Hi Ivan,

> > moin 2 (pre-alpha and in heavy development currently) is emitting html5
> > and a few days ago I added a converter for video/audio -> dom -> html5
> > video/audio tag. It works. :)
> 
> Sounds terrific. When is moin 2 expected to be production ready?

That depends on the amount of developers helping with it.
Currently some more developers are helping within Google Summer of Code,
but that is soon over and we'll have to see how it is afterwards.

There is still lots to do with refactoring code to make good use of the
framework and libraries we use now. Also user interface needs much more
work.

So, don't hold your breath for it. It likely won't happen this year,
maybe next year. 

> I was wondering how can one help without coding or investing time at the moment, and have seen
> 
>     http://moinmo.in/Donations
> 
> As I'm allocated in Germany, it is a pity you don't have a public benefit association (in German:
> gemeinn?tzig) to accept tax deducted donations. I you had, you would get much more (>30%) for
> the very same donated money.

Well, doing such stuff needs time and as you might have seen there are
not that many people involved in moin development currently (and likely
none of them has experience or time to deal with bureaucracy related to
what you suggest).

Cheers,

Thomas





From tw-public at gmx.de  Fri Aug  6 08:15:02 2010
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:15:02 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] moin2 minefield / sandbox
Message-ID: <1281096902.11589.11.camel@x300.fritz.box>

Please read what's written on the front page there:

http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2





From ivan at ffii.org  Sat Aug  7 07:27:11 2010
From: ivan at ffii.org (Ivan F. Villanueva B.)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 13:27:11 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] moin2 minefield / sandbox
In-Reply-To: <1281096902.11589.11.camel@x300.fritz.box>
References: <1281096902.11589.11.camel@x300.fritz.box>
Message-ID: <20100807112711.GE1935@heliosgridmind>

* Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> [2010-08-06 14:16]:
> Please read what's written on the front page there:
> 
> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2

the explanations of the features are difficult to understand.

(@Thomas I tried to send you a private message but it was rejected by your server)

-- 
Ivan Villanueva



From ivan at ffii.org  Sat Aug  7 08:16:54 2010
From: ivan at ffii.org (Ivan F. Villanueva B.)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 14:16:54 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] expected time for moin 2; donations to the project
In-Reply-To: <1281092047.11589.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>
References: <57B9FD15790FA0438DB4357BD9449AD80438B0D8@Autoexchange.vivonet.com>
	<1281011775.4256.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>
	<20100805161515.GD2718@heliosgridmind>
	<1281092047.11589.7.camel@x300.fritz.box>
Message-ID: <20100807121654.GH1935@heliosgridmind>

Hi Thomas,

* Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> [2010-08-06 12:55]:
> >     http://moinmo.in/Donations
> > 
> > As I'm allocated in Germany, it is a pity you don't have a public benefit association 

> Well, doing such stuff needs time ...
> none of them has experience or time to deal with bureaucracy related to
> what you suggest

I do and I am willing to help. I propose you contact me privately.

-- 
Ivan Villanueva
Initiator: http://StopSoftwarePatents.eu



From george at galis.org  Sun Aug  8 13:49:36 2010
From: george at galis.org (George Georgalis)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 10:49:36 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] moin2 minefield / sandbox
In-Reply-To: <1281096902.11589.11.camel@x300.fritz.box>
References: <1281096902.11589.11.camel@x300.fritz.box>
Message-ID: <20100808174936.GP27260@bonnie>

On Fri 06 Aug 2010 at 02:15:02 PM +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
>Please read what's written on the front page there:
>
>http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2

identification of specific goals or objectives would be nice.
what technology is novel, innovation, prerequisite or feature request?
interesting technology, but missing is why they are being incorporated.
while the why may be obvious, it could still be different for everyone.

is minefield really the version name? or is that just for the alpha?

-George



From rb.proj at googlemail.com  Mon Aug  9 06:08:39 2010
From: rb.proj at googlemail.com (ReimarBauer)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 12:08:39 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] moin2 minefield / sandbox
In-Reply-To: <20100808174936.GP27260@bonnie>
References: <1281096902.11589.11.camel@x300.fritz.box>
	<20100808174936.GP27260@bonnie>
Message-ID: <i3ok39$st$1@dough.gmane.org>

On 08.08.2010 19:49, George Georgalis wrote:
> On Fri 06 Aug 2010 at 02:15:02 PM +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
>> Please read what's written on the front page there:
>>
>> http://test.moinmo.in:8080/MoinMoin2
> 
> identification of specific goals or objectives would be nice.

see
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2.0

> what technology is novel, innovation, prerequisite or feature request?
> interesting technology, but missing is why they are being incorporated.
> while the why may be obvious, it could still be different for everyone.
> 
> is minefield really the version name? or is that just for the alpha?
> 

nor

it describe what we have by now - at this time. While stuff becomes
ripped out or refactored. It is unstable. If you try something which is
not on the path you run into a mine. And there are lots of mines
currently ;) But also the current minmized wiki shows the advances of
moin-2.0.

Reimar

> -George
> 
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Aug  9 07:06:56 2010
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:06:56 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] moin2 minefield / sandbox
In-Reply-To: <20100808174936.GP27260@bonnie>
References: <1281096902.11589.11.camel@x300.fritz.box>
	<20100808174936.GP27260@bonnie>
Message-ID: <1281352016.6374.5.camel@x300.fritz.box>


> is minefield really the version name? or is that just for the alpha?

No, it is called MoinMoin 2.0 or short moin2.

"minefield" just means that something might explode on the testing site
if you tap onto it (like clicking on some functionality that still has
bugs might give a traceback or worse, hang the process).

About general infos about moin2, see the wiki page reimar gave.





From rrborg at speakeasy.net  Mon Aug 16 19:52:54 2010
From: rrborg at speakeasy.net (Rocky Borg)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 16:52:54 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] escape character
Message-ID: <4C69CF56.8070307@speakeasy.net>

  Is there a way to escape a character so #! isn't parsed further and 
will simply display as regular text.

I'm trying to do

{{{
#!/bin/sh
along with further text here.
}}}

The #!/bin/sh part is what's needed at the top of shell scripts and I'm 
trying to show an example after that part. I've read over the section on 
editing and I didn't see a way to do this.






From dodecatheon at gmail.com  Mon Aug 16 21:58:24 2010
From: dodecatheon at gmail.com (Ted Stern)
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 18:58:24 -0700
Subject: [Moin-user] escape character
In-Reply-To: <4C69CF56.8070307@speakeasy.net> (Rocky Borg's message of "Mon,
	16 Aug 2010 16:52:54 -0700")
References: <4C69CF56.8070307@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <lsp39ueq9tr.fsf@saturna.ca.boeing.com>

On 16 Aug 2010 16:52:54 -0700, Rocky Borg wrote:
>
>   Is there a way to escape a character so #! isn't parsed further and 
> will simply display as regular text.
>
> I'm trying to do
>
> {{{
> #!/bin/sh
> along with further text here.
> }}}
>
> The #!/bin/sh part is what's needed at the top of shell scripts and I'm 
> trying to show an example after that part. I've read over the section on 
> editing and I didn't see a way to do this.
>

Essentially, what you need to do is provide a parser command first.
Logically you should try using the Shell parser:

          http://moinmo.in/ParserMarket/Shell

And then do

    {{{#!shell
    #!/bin/sh
    commands, etc.
    }}}

Looks redundant, but should work :-).

Ted

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From rb.proj at googlemail.com  Tue Aug 17 05:34:34 2010
From: rb.proj at googlemail.com (ReimarBuaer)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:34:34 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] escape character
In-Reply-To: <4C69CF56.8070307@speakeasy.net>
References: <4C69CF56.8070307@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <i4dl3a$n51$1@dough.gmane.org>

Rocky Borg schrieb:
>   Is there a way to escape a character so #! isn't parsed further and 
> will simply display as regular text.
> 
> I'm trying to do
> 
> {{{
> #!/bin/sh
> along with further text here.
> }}}
> 

try

{{{#!highlight sh
#!/bin/sh
along with further text here.
}}}


see http://moinmo.in/HelpOnParsers#highlight_parser

cheers
Reimar




From rb.proj at googlemail.com  Tue Aug 17 05:36:38 2010
From: rb.proj at googlemail.com (ReimarBuaer)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:36:38 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] escape character
In-Reply-To: <4C69CF56.8070307@speakeasy.net>
References: <4C69CF56.8070307@speakeasy.net>
Message-ID: <i4dl76$n51$2@dough.gmane.org>

Rocky Borg schrieb:
>   Is there a way to escape a character so #! isn't parsed further and 
> will simply display as regular text.
> 
> I'm trying to do
> 
> {{{
> #!/bin/sh
> along with further text here.
> }}}
> 

try

{{{#!highlight sh
#!/bin/sh
along with further text here.
}}}

see http://moinmo.in/HelpOnParsers#highlight_parser

cheers
Reimar

> The #!/bin/sh part is what's needed at the top of shell scripts and I'm 
> trying to show an example after that part. I've read over the section on 
> editing and I didn't see a way to do this.
> 
> 
> 
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From juriejanbotha at gmail.com  Tue Aug 17 13:28:34 2010
From: juriejanbotha at gmail.com (Jurie-Jan Botha)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 19:28:34 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Python 2.6.5 WSGI Issue
Message-ID: <AANLkTinP+SuLPG9JiyvNECBG_gnCyNvjNxeoNHkLghX1@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to run MoinMoin with the script below, but as soon as I make a
request it says 'Segmentation Fault' and closes the server.

This is only happening on Python 2.6.5. When running it with Python 2.7 it
works fine. Anything jump out at anyone? I've compiled both these versions f
python with the same libraries, and both have everything required installed.
Thanks


# -*- coding: iso-8859-1 -*-
import sys, os

script_path = os.path.abspath(os.path.dirname(__file__))
sys.path.insert(0, os.path.join(script_path, 'config'))

from MoinMoin.web.serving import make_application

application = make_application(shared=True)

if __name__ == '__main__':
    try:
        from wsgiref import simple_server
        httpd = simple_server.WSGIServer(('', 8000),
simple_server.WSGIRequestHandler)
        httpd.set_app(application)
        httpd.serve_forever()
    except ImportError:
        for content in application({}, lambda status, headers: None):
            print content
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From tavasti at tavastisolutions.com  Wed Aug 18 07:15:21 2010
From: tavasti at tavastisolutions.com (Markku Tavasti)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 14:15:21 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] ACL Groups don't work in MoinMoin 1.7.1-3+lenny5
Message-ID: <4C6BC0C9.9040008@tavastisolutions.com>

Hi everybody!

Some friendly person with admin rights had upgraded old virtual server 
running older debian for MoinMoin farm. After this, all wikis were down.

Now my problem is I cannot get groups working with acl. Have tried this:

     acl_rights_default = u'MarkkuTavasti:read,write,delete,revert,admin 
TestiGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin All: '
     acl_rights_before = u'MarkkuTavasti:read,write,delete,revert,admin 
TestiGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin '

I get rights as one would expect, but members of TestiGroup cannot 
access anything on wiki. Even created one new wiki, but not even there.

Any ideas where and how track this problem?

One option is to install more recent MoinMoin, but apparently GUI editor 
doesn't work with python 2.5.2, so I need to upgrade even python?

System Info:

Python Version
     2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jan 24 2010, 14:53:14) [GCC 4.3.2]
MoinMoin Version
     Release 1.7.1 [Revision release]
Global extension macros
     AbandonedPages, Action, AdvancedSearch, AttachInfo, AttachList, BR, 
EditTemplates, EditedSystemPages, EmbedObject, FootNote, FullSearch, 
FullSearchCached, GetText, GetText2, Hits, Include, InterWiki, 
LikePages, MonthCalendar, Navigation, NewPage, OrphanedPages, PageCount, 
PageHits, PageList, PageSize, RSSReader, RandomPage, RandomQuote, 
RecentChanges, ShowSmileys, StatsChart, SystemAdmin, SystemInfo, 
TableOfContents, TeudView, Verbatim, WantedPages
Local extension macros
     NONE
Global extension actions
     AttachFile, DeletePage, Despam, LikePages, Load, LocalSiteMap, 
PackagePages, RenamePage, RenderAsDocbook, Save, SpellCheck, 
SubscribeUser, SyncPages, backup, bookmark, cache, chart, diff, 
dumpform, edit, fckdialog, fullsearch, info, links, login, logout, 
newaccount, newpage, pollsistersites, quicklink, quickunlink, 
recoverpass, refresh, revert, rss_rc, serveopenid, showtags, 
sisterpages, sitemap, subscribe, supplementation, thread_monitor, 
titleindex, unsubscribe, userprefs, userprofile
Local extension actions
     NONE
Global parsers
     text, text_cplusplus, text_creole, text_csv, text_diff, 
text_docbook, text_html, text_irssi, text_java, text_moin_wiki, 
text_pascal, text_python, text_rst, text_xslt
Local extension parsers
     NONE
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From rb.proj at googlemail.com  Wed Aug 18 09:38:50 2010
From: rb.proj at googlemail.com (ReimarBauer)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 15:38:50 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] ACL Groups don't work in MoinMoin 1.7.1-3+lenny5
In-Reply-To: <4C6BC0C9.9040008@tavastisolutions.com>
References: <4C6BC0C9.9040008@tavastisolutions.com>
Message-ID: <i4gnpa$34a$1@dough.gmane.org>

Markku Tavasti schrieb:
> Hi everybody!
> 
Hi

> Some friendly person with admin rights had upgraded old virtual server 
> running older debian for MoinMoin farm. After this, all wikis were down.
> 

>From which older version?

> Now my problem is I cannot get groups working with acl. Have tried this:
> 
>      acl_rights_default = u'MarkkuTavasti:read,write,delete,revert,admin 
> TestiGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin All: '
>      acl_rights_before = u'MarkkuTavasti:read,write,delete,revert,admin 
> TestiGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin '

likly upgrade process is not completed. You can help us debugging your
problem if you
a) join #moin on chat.freenode.net see http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinChat
b) provide more than these two lines. e.g. how does your
page_group_regex looks like (the syntax has changed see
http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/file/f8871116c6b3/docs/CHANGES#l267)
c) by more details how you have migrated your wiki data? Did you removed
cache files afterwards etc.

> 
> I get rights as one would expect, but members of TestiGroup cannot 
> access anything on wiki. Even created one new wiki, but not even there.
> 
> Any ideas where and how track this problem?
> 
> One option is to install more recent MoinMoin, but apparently GUI editor 
> doesn't work with python 2.5.2, so I need to upgrade even python?

gui editor was removed by debian. It usually runs with python 2.5.2.

> 
> System Info:
> 
> Python Version
>      2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jan 24 2010, 14:53:14) [GCC 4.3.2]
> MoinMoin Version
>      Release 1.7.1 [Revision release]

This is extremly old, if you want a reason to upgrade again see
http://moinmo.in/SecurityFixes
A newer debian moin version is in testing.

cheers
Reimar




From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Aug 18 11:20:57 2010
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:20:57 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Python 2.6.5 WSGI Issue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinP+SuLPG9JiyvNECBG_gnCyNvjNxeoNHkLghX1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinP+SuLPG9JiyvNECBG_gnCyNvjNxeoNHkLghX1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1282144857.20390.9.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

Hi,

> I'm trying to run MoinMoin with the script below, but as soon as I
> make a request it says 'Segmentation Fault' and closes the server.

OOPS. :)

Well, what you see is likely a problem in some code written in C/C++
(like the Python interpreter, C extensions, ...), not in MoinMoin.

Python code (like MoinMoin) usually can't contain bugs that trigger
segfaults. Maybe indirectly somehow, but still, the bug is in the C code
then.

So:
* try if you can reproduce on another system
* check if your python packages are damaged somehow
* check Python C extensions you use
* check if Python is built correctly

>         from wsgiref import simple_server
>         httpd = simple_server.WSGIServer(('', 8000),
> simple_server.WSGIRequestHandler)

BTW, you maybe rather want to use the wsgi server from werkzeug.
wsgiref is a rather simple thing and (iirc) has some issues.

Cheers,

Thomas






From juriejanbotha at gmail.com  Wed Aug 18 13:40:07 2010
From: juriejanbotha at gmail.com (Jurie-Jan Botha)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:40:07 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Python 2.6.5 WSGI Issue
In-Reply-To: <1282144857.20390.9.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
References: <AANLkTinP+SuLPG9JiyvNECBG_gnCyNvjNxeoNHkLghX1@mail.gmail.com>
	<1282144857.20390.9.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <AANLkTik9nUdMDsyMDGx+xBXO-XK1yU2e5yS7Q=us_ZCd@mail.gmail.com>

I compiled all my python versions again and tried with each one.

2.5.5 and 2.6.5 both give me the 'Segmentation Fault'.

2.7 works fine.

I also tried using werkzeug as the WSGI server and it gives me the
same behavior.

I'll give it a go on another system when I get a chance. It's odd to me that
no one else has
this problem, as I believe my setup to be fairly common. Perhaps someone
else can also try
compiling 2.6.5 from source and running moin via the sample WSGI server.
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Aug 19 11:09:33 2010
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:09:33 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Python 2.6.5 WSGI Issue
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik9nUdMDsyMDGx+xBXO-XK1yU2e5yS7Q=us_ZCd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinP+SuLPG9JiyvNECBG_gnCyNvjNxeoNHkLghX1@mail.gmail.com>
	<1282144857.20390.9.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>
	<AANLkTik9nUdMDsyMDGx+xBXO-XK1yU2e5yS7Q=us_ZCd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1282230573.433.32.camel@server.firma.waldmann-edv.de>

On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 19:40 +0200, Jurie-Jan Botha wrote:
> I compiled all my python versions again and tried with each one.
> 2.5.5 and 2.6.5 both give me the 'Segmentation Fault'.
> I also tried using werkzeug as the WSGI server and it gives me the
> same behavior.
> 
> 
> I'll give it a go on another system when I get a chance. It's odd to
> me that no one else has
> this problem, as I believe my setup to be fairly common.

I use the default python provided by Ubuntu (10.04), works fine:

$ python
Python 2.6.5 (r265:79063, Apr 16 2010, 13:57:41) 
[GCC 4.4.3] on linux2
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.

> Perhaps someone else can also try
> compiling 2.6.5 from source and running moin via the sample WSGI
> server.

BTW, one of the usual pitfalls when compiling your own python is not
having all xxx-dev packages installed at configure/compile time. The
configure will then detect it is not there and drop the respective xxx
feature.

I don't remember all -dev stuff I had to install last time I compiled my
own Python, but e.g. zlib-dev and some (open)ssl stuff come to mind (and
for moin2, also sqlite-dev or so).

BTW, I (and also likely some other moin devs) usually
use ./wikiserver.py (as contained in the moin download / repo) to test /
debug moin. And I use 2.6.5 on Ubuntu all the time without problems.

When I recently tried some PyPy build, I also had segfaults, but this
was likely due to bugs in PyPy or my PyPy build.

Maybe you could also ask some Python developers about this. In case you
found some bug in Python, they should be quite interested.




From scofield at calvin.edu  Thu Aug 19 21:07:22 2010
From: scofield at calvin.edu (Thomas Scofield)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:07:22 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] help with tables
Message-ID: <40A23ED2-6742-4A10-BBAB-2908F4C38F6C@calvin.edu>


I must be doing something really stupid.  I am relatively new to using MoinMoin, and have tried this both with version 1.8.? and 1.9.3.  The information on tables makes it appear to be quite simple to produce them.  Here is code I have used, intending to get a bulleted list with a table under each bullet.  Instead, the second bullet and table appear to the right of the first.  I cannot figure out what to do to change this.  Any help would be appreciated.

'''Course A''' <<BR>>
 *'''Homeworks''' <<BR>>
 ||<tablestyle="float: left;" tablewidth="60%;" style="border:none;" width="5%"> [[attachment:hw1.pdf|HW 1|&do=get]] ||<style="border:none;" width="14%">  [[attachment:hw2.pdf|HW 2|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;" width="5%"> [[attachment:hw3.pdf|HW 3|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;" width="5%"> [[attachment:hw4.pdf|HW 4|&do=get]]||
 ||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw5.pdf|HW 5|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw6.pdf|HW 6|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw7.pdf|HW 7|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw8.pdf|HW 8|&do=get]]||
 ||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw9.pdf|HW 9|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw9-comment-on-back.pdf|HW 9 with comment on back|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw10.pdf|HW 10|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw11.pdf|HW 11|&do=get]]||
 ||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw12.pdf|HW 12|&do=get]] ||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw13.pdf|HW 13|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw14.pdf|HW 14|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"> [[attachment:hw15.pdf|HW 15|&do=get]]||

 *'''Handouts'''
 ||<tablestyle="float: left;" tablewidth="30%;" style="border:none;" width="5%">[[attachment:handout1.pdf|Handout 1|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;" width="5%">[[attachment:handout2.pdf|Handout 2|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;" width="5%">[[attachment:handout3.pdf|Handout 3|&do=get]]||
 ||<style="border:none;" width="5%">[[attachment:handout4.pdf|Handout 4|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;" width="5%">[[attachment:handout5.pdf|Handout 5|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;" width="5%">[[attachment:handout6.pdf|Handout 6|&do=get]]||


'''Course B'''

Thomas L. Scofield
--------------------------------------------------------
Associate Professor
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Calvin College
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From m.decker at fz-juelich.de  Fri Aug 20 02:18:01 2010
From: m.decker at fz-juelich.de (Michael Decker)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:18:01 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] help with tables
In-Reply-To: <40A23ED2-6742-4A10-BBAB-2908F4C38F6C@calvin.edu>
References: <40A23ED2-6742-4A10-BBAB-2908F4C38F6C@calvin.edu>
Message-ID: <4C6E1E19.8070602@fz-juelich.de>

Hi Thomas,

> I must be doing something really stupid. I am relatively new to using
> MoinMoin, and have tried this both with version 1.8.? and 1.9.3. The
> information on tables makes it appear to be quite simple to produce
> them. Here is code I have used, intending to get a bulleted list with a
> table under each bullet. Instead, the second bullet and table appear to
> the right of the first.
I have tried your example and I see your problem.

>
> '''Course A''' <<BR>>
> *'''Homeworks''' <<BR>>
> ||<tablestyle="float: left;" tablewidth="60%;" style="border:none;"
> width="5%"> [[attachment:hw1.pdf|HW 1|&do=get]] ||<style="border:none;"
> width="14%"> [[attachment:hw2.pdf|HW 2|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"
> width="5%"> [[attachment:hw3.pdf|HW 3|&do=get]]||<style="border:none;"
> width="5%"> [[attachment:hw4.pdf|HW 4|&do=get]]||
Did you try leaving away the tablestyle option? If I understand your 
description correctly, then this gives me exactly what you wanted.

Michael
-- 
Michael Decker
Forschungszentrum J?lich
ICG-2: Troposph?re

E-Mail: m.decker at fz-juelich.de

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From scofield at calvin.edu  Fri Aug 20 08:53:23 2010
From: scofield at calvin.edu (Thomas Scofield)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:53:23 -0400
Subject: [Moin-user] help with tables
Message-ID: <8E4A25AA-FDA1-4FFA-BBE8-7385469F2DE3@calvin.edu>


I did not originally have all those css-type statements included in my table.  The wiki was setup by someone else, and I am taking over as administrator for most issues.  Apparently all tables are being centered automatically, which I did not like the look of.  That's the reason for the <tablestyle = "float: left;">.  The theme being used in the wiki is basically Mandarin (available at the MoinMoin Theme Market), and I found these lines in its style.css file

    /*  margin: 0.5em auto;  */
    margin: 0.5em;    /*  if you don't like centered tables */

(originally the top one was active, and the 2nd one commented) which I hoped would make left-justification of tables the default.  Truth is, I'm not sure if it should or not, as I'm not sure I'm doing the right steps to enact such a change:

  > moin maint cleancache /packages/share/moin/wikis/mywiki/wikiconfig.py
  > sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart

But, if these steps are the right ones, I'm not seeing a difference.

Nevertheless, whatever the default placement of tables, it seems there should be commands to override it for a specific table without such drastic effect on the rest of the page.  Do such commands exist, and my <tablestyle = ...> is just the wrong one?

Thanks for the help.

Thomas


Thomas L. Scofield
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Associate Professor
Department of Mathematics and Statistics
Calvin College
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From moinmoin at sheep.art.pl  Fri Aug 20 10:55:29 2010
From: moinmoin at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 16:55:29 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] help with tables
In-Reply-To: <8E4A25AA-FDA1-4FFA-BBE8-7385469F2DE3@calvin.edu>
References: <8E4A25AA-FDA1-4FFA-BBE8-7385469F2DE3@calvin.edu>
Message-ID: <AANLkTiksQU7BR0wFHmPSHZGEhzamgi83uv03hyR7nF9H@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Thomas Scofield <scofield at calvin.edu> wrote:
>
> I did not originally have all those css-type statements included in my
> table. ?The wiki was setup by someone else, and I am taking over as
> administrator for most issues. ?Apparently all tables are being centered
> automatically, which I did not like the look of. ?That's the reason for the
> <tablestyle = "float: left;">. ?The theme being used in the wiki is
> basically Mandarin (available at the MoinMoin Theme Market), and I found
> these lines in its style.css file
> ?? ?/* ?margin: 0.5em auto; ?*/
> ?? ?margin: 0.5em; ? ?/* ?if you don't like centered tables */
> (originally the top one was active, and the 2nd one commented) which I hoped
> would make left-justification of tables the default. ?Truth is, I'm not sure
> if it should or not, as I'm not sure I'm doing the right steps to enact such
> a change:
> ??>?moin maint cleancache /packages/share/moin/wikis/mywiki/wikiconfig.py
> ??>?sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart

All you need is shift+f5 in your browser -- provided that you modified the file
that is actually being used, not some copy lying around.

> But, if these steps are the right ones, I'm not seeing a difference.
> Nevertheless, whatever the default placement of tables, it seems there
> should be commands to override it for a specific table without such drastic
> effect on the rest of the page. ?Do such commands exist, and my <tablestyle
> = ...> is just the wrong one?

You can put in that tablestyle parameter anything that you would normally put
in the css, so tablestyle="margin: 0.5em" would work too.

-- 
Radomir Dopieralski, http://sheep.art.pl



From tavasti at tavastisolutions.com  Mon Aug 23 02:01:04 2010
From: tavasti at tavastisolutions.com (Markku Tavasti)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:01:04 +0300
Subject: [Moin-user] ACL Groups don't work in MoinMoin 1.7.1-3+lenny5
In-Reply-To: <i4gnpa$34a$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <4C6BC0C9.9040008@tavastisolutions.com>
	<i4gnpa$34a$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4C720EA0.4000202@tavastisolutions.com>

On 08/18/2010 04:38 PM, ReimarBauer wrote:

>> From which older version?

Originally system was debian sarge. At least moin version 1.5.3 was 
installed on some stage, but no clear evidence if it was working, or was 
everyhting broken with that version also.

> b) provide more than these two lines. e.g. how does your
> page_group_regex looks like (the syntax has changed see
> http://hg.moinmo.in/moin/1.7/file/f8871116c6b3/docs/CHANGES#l267)

That might been the case:
page_group_regex = u'[a-z]Group$'

Before reading your response I upgraded to 1.9.3 moin and created new 
farmconfig & wikiconfig. Everything works now.

Thanks for your help!



From rb.proj at gmail.com  Mon Aug 23 03:36:57 2010
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:36:57 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Indexing macro-generated pages
In-Reply-To: <4C597B2B.9060006@hrcsb.org>
References: <4C597B2B.9060006@hrcsb.org>
Message-ID: <i4t8ep$dah$1@dough.gmane.org>

LeVon Smoker schrieb:
> Is there a way to get moin to index (through Xapian) the output
> generated by a macro? Currently, it appears to index only the actual
> text of the macro.
> 
> In particular, I'd like to index the output generated by the DataBase macro.
> 
> Thanks.

You could write a filter plugin which is used to collect text of a page
after it was send. You can use for example
http://moinmo.in/MoinAPI/Beispiele#Page.send_page.28.29
to get the html content of the rendered page.
Afterwards you have to remove all the html tags, see
filter/text_html.py, filter/text_xml.py

cheers
Reimar




From waqas805 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 23 05:06:45 2010
From: waqas805 at hotmail.com (Tinku Badshah)
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:06:45 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] UnboundLocalError with Xapian
Message-ID: <BAY155-w594DAC8A7392C89C5FE4CB87820@phx.gbl>


Hallo, 

 

i am using moin_193 with "Apache/2.2.16 (Win32) mod_wsgi/3.3 Python/2.7 mod_auth_sspi/1.0.4"

I am trying to configure the Xapian on my TestSystem(before i configured on ProductiveSystem) and i am getting following error. I dont know where is the problem.

 

I have installed the "xapian-python-bindings for Python 2.6.4 -1.2.2.win32.exe" from this site " http://www.flax.co.uk/xapian_binaries " and then i added in my wikiconfig.py file this line  xapian_search = True.

 

I think that i am not using correct bindings (But i am not sure). I searched a lot for Xapian bindings for python2.7 but i didn't find, therefore i used above mentioned bindings.

 

Thanks for help in advance, 

Tinku

 

here is my error message.

 

[Mon Aug 23 10:37:52 2010] [error] 2010-08-23 10:37:52,829 WARNING MoinMoin.log:139 using logging configuration read from built-in fallback in MoinMoin.log module!
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] 2010-08-23 10:37:53,200 ERROR MoinMoin.wsgiapp:293 An exception has occurred [http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki].
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] Traceback (most recent call last):
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\wsgiapp.py", line 281, in __call__
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     context = init(request)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\wsgiapp.py", line 51, in init
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     context.lang = setup_i18n_preauth(context)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\wsgiapp.py", line 233, in setup_i18n_preauth
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     i18n.i18n_init(context)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\i18n\\__init__.py", line 72, in i18n_init
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     meta_cache = caching.CacheEntry(request, 'i18n', 'meta', scope='wiki', use_pickle=True)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\caching.py", line 71, in __init__
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     self.arena_dir = get_arena_dir(request, arena, scope)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\caching.py", line 32, in get_arena_dir
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     return os.path.join(request.cfg.cache_dir, request.cfg.siteid, arena)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\web\\contexts.py", line 56, in get
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     res = obj.environ.setdefault(self.name, factory(obj))
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\web\\contexts.py", line 128, in cfg
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     cfg = multiconfig.getConfig(self.request.url)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\config\\multiconfig.py", line 193, in getConfig
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     cfg = _makeConfig(cfgName)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\config\\multiconfig.py", line 125, in _makeConfig
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     cfg = configClass(name)
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\config\\multiconfig.py", line 371, in __init__
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     import xapian
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\xapian\\__init__.py", line 28, in <module>
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     _xapian = swig_import_helper()
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\xapian\\__init__.py", line 27, in swig_import_helper
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error]     return _mod
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] UnboundLocalError: local variable '_mod' referenced before assignment
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] mod_wsgi (pid=5972): Exception occurred processing WSGI script 'D:/ProgramFiles/Software/Moin/supwiki/moin.wsgi'., referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] Traceback (most recent call last):, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\support\\werkzeug\\utils.py", line 248, in __call__, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     return self.app(environ, start_response), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\wsgiapp.py", line 281, in __call__, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     context = init(request), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\wsgiapp.py", line 51, in init, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     context.lang = setup_i18n_preauth(context), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\wsgiapp.py", line 233, in setup_i18n_preauth, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     i18n.i18n_init(context), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\i18n\\__init__.py", line 72, in i18n_init, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     meta_cache = caching.CacheEntry(request, 'i18n', 'meta', scope='wiki', use_pickle=True), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\caching.py", line 71, in __init__, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     self.arena_dir = get_arena_dir(request, arena, scope), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\caching.py", line 32, in get_arena_dir, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     return os.path.join(request.cfg.cache_dir, request.cfg.siteid, arena), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\web\\contexts.py", line 56, in get, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     res = obj.environ.setdefault(self.name, factory(obj)), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\web\\contexts.py", line 128, in cfg, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     cfg = multiconfig.getConfig(self.request.url), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\config\\multiconfig.py", line 193, in getConfig, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     cfg = _makeConfig(cfgName), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\config\\multiconfig.py", line 125, in _makeConfig, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     cfg = configClass(name), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\MoinMoin\\config\\multiconfig.py", line 371, in __init__, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     import xapian, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\xapian\\__init__.py", line 28, in <module>, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     _xapian = swig_import_helper(), referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]   File "D:\\ProgramFiles\\Software\\Python27\\lib\\site-packages\\xapian\\__init__.py", line 27, in swig_import_helper, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1]     return _mod, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki
[Mon Aug 23 10:37:53 2010] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] UnboundLocalError: local variable '_mod' referenced before assignment, referer: http://localhost:8080/supwiki/Welcome%20To%20Info%20Wiki



 

 

 		 	   		  
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From jakub.kruszona at gemius.pl  Thu Aug 26 07:10:04 2010
From: jakub.kruszona at gemius.pl (Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:10:04 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Help needed with attachments
Message-ID: <15F8C3F2-3916-4CC4-AD95-2B82D7A51DB7@gemius.pl>

Hi.

I'm using MoinMoin version 1.9.3.

I have some problems with text attachments. I want to include content of my attachment into page. My attachments are simple text files (most of them written in javascript)

I'd like to have my files attached with color syntax, and without line numbers.

When file is a part of a page it could be done easy as:

{{{#!highlight js numbers=disable
.....
}}}

But when I try to attach file with .js extension - like: {{attachment:file.js}} it turns on the page into funny small box with scrollbars (not usual gray box) - Moin doesn't detect it as a text file and places it as an 'object'. When I've added .txt ( like this: {{attachment:file.js.txt}} ) - it works, but there is no color syntax of course, and I have no idea how to disable line numbers (how to add display parameters such as 'numbers=disable' to attachments).

Is there any way to do that?
Are there options to turn off this line numbering thing globally?

-- 
Regards,
Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki
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From rb.proj at gmail.com  Thu Aug 26 11:11:40 2010
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 17:11:40 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Help needed with attachments
In-Reply-To: <15F8C3F2-3916-4CC4-AD95-2B82D7A51DB7@gemius.pl>
References: <15F8C3F2-3916-4CC4-AD95-2B82D7A51DB7@gemius.pl>
Message-ID: <i5607c$v39$1@dough.gmane.org>

Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki schrieb:
> Hi.
> 
> I'm using MoinMoin version 1.9.3.
> 
> I have some problems with text attachments. I want to include content of my attachment into page. My attachments are simple text files (most of them written in javascript)
> 
> I'd like to have my files attached with color syntax, and without line numbers.

ok

> 
> When file is a part of a page it could be done easy as:
> 
> {{{#!highlight js numbers=disable
> .....
> }}}
> 
> But when I try to attach file with .js extension - like: {{attachment:file.js}} it turns on the page into funny small box with scrollbars (not usual gray box) - Moin doesn't detect it as a text file and places it as an 'object'. When I've added .txt ( like this: {{attachment:file.js.txt}} ) - it works, but there is no color syntax of course, and I have no idea how to disable line numbers (how to add display parameters such as 'numbers=disable' to attachments).

hmm, I don't want to tell about features of fututre moin-2.0 so lets see
what we can do in moin-1.9

> 
> Is there any way to do that?

the mimetype is application/x-javascript so it can't be detected as text
file.

Also this means that you found a bug, because MIMETYPES_sanitize_mapping
is not working as it should.
It looks like we sanitize the wrong mimetype for javascript.

see
http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/JS_Not_highlighted for a patch.


> Are there options to turn off this line numbering thing globally?


Please add a feature request for such a feature if there is no simple
way to archieve it.

Thanks for reporting

cheers

Reimar




From jakub.kruszona at gemius.pl  Fri Aug 27 02:02:54 2010
From: jakub.kruszona at gemius.pl (Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:02:54 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Help needed with attachments
In-Reply-To: <i5607c$v39$1@dough.gmane.org>
References: <15F8C3F2-3916-4CC4-AD95-2B82D7A51DB7@gemius.pl>
	<i5607c$v39$1@dough.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <004E72A9-3FED-4EE5-B295-C0581A66A008@gemius.pl>


On 26 Aug, 2010, at 17:11, R.Bauer wrote:

> Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki schrieb:
>> Hi.
>> 
>> I'm using MoinMoin version 1.9.3.
>> 
>> I have some problems with text attachments. I want to include content of my attachment into page. My attachments are simple text files (most of them written in javascript)
>> 
>> I'd like to have my files attached with color syntax, and without line numbers.
> 
> ok
> 
>> 
>> When file is a part of a page it could be done easy as:
>> 
>> {{{#!highlight js numbers=disable
>> .....
>> }}}
>> 
>> But when I try to attach file with .js extension - like: {{attachment:file.js}} it turns on the page into funny small box with scrollbars (not usual gray box) - Moin doesn't detect it as a text file and places it as an 'object'. When I've added .txt ( like this: {{attachment:file.js.txt}} ) - it works, but there is no color syntax of course, and I have no idea how to disable line numbers (how to add display parameters such as 'numbers=disable' to attachments).
> 
> hmm, I don't want to tell about features of fututre moin-2.0 so lets see
> what we can do in moin-1.9
> 
>> 
>> Is there any way to do that?
> 
> the mimetype is application/x-javascript so it can't be detected as text
> file.
> 
> Also this means that you found a bug, because MIMETYPES_sanitize_mapping
> is not working as it should.
> It looks like we sanitize the wrong mimetype for javascript.
> 
> see
> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/JS_Not_highlighted for a patch.
> 

Thanks. It helped.

The same problem is with actionscript. '.as' files are detected as 'application/x-actionscript', so another mapping should be added to MIMETYPES_sanitize_mapping:

    ('application', 'x-actionscript'): ('text', 'actionscript'),

Probably there are more mime types to sanitize (things as "application/x-sh","application/x-dos-batch" etc.).

On the HelpOnParsers page (http://moinmo.in/HelpOnParsers) there is nice table on the bottom. In column "Mimetypes" there are a lot of mimetypes like "application/*". May be it would be better to ask highlighter (Pygments) if it can 'colorize' given file and only if answer is 'no' then check if major mime type is 'text'?

> 
>> Are there options to turn off this line numbering thing globally?
> 
> 
> Please add a feature request for such a feature if there is no simple
> way to archieve it.
> 
> Thanks for reporting
> 
> cheers
> 
> Reimar
> 
> 
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From rb.proj at gmail.com  Fri Aug 27 04:32:38 2010
From: rb.proj at gmail.com (R.Bauer)
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:32:38 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Help needed with attachments
In-Reply-To: <004E72A9-3FED-4EE5-B295-C0581A66A008@gemius.pl>
References: <15F8C3F2-3916-4CC4-AD95-2B82D7A51DB7@gemius.pl>	<i5607c$v39$1@dough.gmane.org>
	<004E72A9-3FED-4EE5-B295-C0581A66A008@gemius.pl>
Message-ID: <i57t76$p1g$1@dough.gmane.org>

Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki schrieb:
> On 26 Aug, 2010, at 17:11, R.Bauer wrote:
> 
>> Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki schrieb:
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> I'm using MoinMoin version 1.9.3.
>>>
>>> I have some problems with text attachments. I want to include content of my attachment into page. My attachments are simple text files (most of them written in javascript)
>>>
>>> I'd like to have my files attached with color syntax, and without line numbers.
>> ok
>>
>>> When file is a part of a page it could be done easy as:
>>>
>>> {{{#!highlight js numbers=disable
>>> .....
>>> }}}
>>>
>>> But when I try to attach file with .js extension - like: {{attachment:file.js}} it turns on the page into funny small box with scrollbars (not usual gray box) - Moin doesn't detect it as a text file and places it as an 'object'. When I've added .txt ( like this: {{attachment:file.js.txt}} ) - it works, but there is no color syntax of course, and I have no idea how to disable line numbers (how to add display parameters such as 'numbers=disable' to attachments).
>> hmm, I don't want to tell about features of fututre moin-2.0 so lets see
>> what we can do in moin-1.9
>>
>>> Is there any way to do that?
>> the mimetype is application/x-javascript so it can't be detected as text
>> file.
>>
>> Also this means that you found a bug, because MIMETYPES_sanitize_mapping
>> is not working as it should.
>> It looks like we sanitize the wrong mimetype for javascript.
>>
>> see
>> http://moinmo.in/MoinMoinBugs/JS_Not_highlighted for a patch.
>>
> 
> Thanks. It helped.
> 
> The same problem is with actionscript. '.as' files are detected as 'application/x-actionscript', so another mapping should be added to MIMETYPES_sanitize_mapping:
> 
>     ('application', 'x-actionscript'): ('text', 'actionscript'),
> 
> Probably there are more mime types to sanitize (things as "application/x-sh","application/x-dos-batch" etc.).
> 
> On the HelpOnParsers page (http://moinmo.in/HelpOnParsers) there is nice table on the bottom. In column "Mimetypes" there are a lot of mimetypes like "application/*". May be it would be better to ask highlighter (Pygments) if it can 'colorize' given file and only if answer is 'no' then check if major mime type is 'text'?


Good point, we have to check if that can be done without API changes in
1.9.

Reimar

> 
>>> Are there options to turn off this line numbering thing globally?
>>
>> Please add a feature request for such a feature if there is no simple
>> way to archieve it.
>>
>> Thanks for reporting
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Reimar
>>
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From juriejanbotha at gmail.com  Tue Aug 31 15:57:18 2010
From: juriejanbotha at gmail.com (Jurie-Jan Botha)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 21:57:18 +0200
Subject: [Moin-user] Python 2.6.5 WSGI Issue
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>
> I use the default python provided by Ubuntu (10.04), works fine:
>
> $ python
> Python 2.6.5 (r265:79063, Apr 16 2010, 13:57:41)
> [GCC 4.4.3] on linux2
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>

I also tried running the standard 'wikiserver.py' file with my standard
python and it still gives me a segmentation fault:

Here's version. Seems to be the same.
Python 2.6.5 (r265:79063, Apr 16 2010, 13:09:56)
[GCC 4.4.3] on linux2


>
> > Perhaps someone else can also try
> > compiling 2.6.5 from source and running moin via the sample WSGI
> > server.
>
> BTW, one of the usual pitfalls when compiling your own python is not
> having all xxx-dev packages installed at configure/compile time. The
> configure will then detect it is not there and drop the respective xxx
> feature.


> I don't remember all -dev stuff I had to install last time I compiled my
> own Python, but e.g. zlib-dev and some (open)ssl stuff come to mind (and
> for moin2, also sqlite-dev or so).
>
> BTW, I (and also likely some other moin devs) usually
> use ./wikiserver.py (as contained in the moin download / repo) to test /
> debug moin. And I use 2.6.5 on Ubuntu all the time without problems.
>
> When I recently tried some PyPy build, I also had segfaults, but this
> was likely due to bugs in PyPy or my PyPy build.
>
> Maybe you could also ask some Python developers about this. In case you
> found some bug in Python, they should be quite interested.
>
>
I've compiled python quite a few times before and I am quite familiar with
getting all the necessary xxx-dev packages together. I assumed that it
all compile fine since there where no warnings or errors and 2.7 compile
fine and ran the 'wikiserver.py' file fine.

I also tried running the 'wikiserver.py' file on another machine with 2.6.5
and it worked fine. I can only assume that I somehow broke something
in 2.6.5 across my entire system.

I don't really know how to approach reporting this to the python devs, so
if anyone would like to direct me, I would gladly accept the help and report
this problem. Otherwise, I'll just use 2.7 for now.
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