From riel at surriel.com Sat Sep 1 19:36:54 2007 From: riel at surriel.com (Rik van Riel) Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:36:54 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] Compression between moin and browser? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46D9F796.3080401@surriel.com> Sergiusz Pawlowicz wrote: > Hello, I am looking for someone who successfully enabled > compression between moinmoin and browser, using fcgi > (preferred) or cgi. > > I am also glad to hear any ideas and hints related to compression. You can just enable apache's mod_deflate. -- Politics is the struggle between those who want to make their country the best in the world, and those who believe it already is. Each group calls the other unpatriotic. From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Sat Sep 1 22:46:50 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:46:50 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Expand WikiWords globally? Message-ID: <3130eec50709011946l35b56630xf377f34947387f73@mail.gmail.com> Is there a way to add spaces to WikiWords for all users registered or not? I realize you can set the preferencers to be checked automatically, but I want the words always expanded. -- Gnarlie From tw-public at gmx.de Sun Sep 2 07:21:46 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 13:21:46 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Expand WikiWords globally? In-Reply-To: <3130eec50709011946l35b56630xf377f34947387f73@mail.gmail.com> References: <3130eec50709011946l35b56630xf377f34947387f73@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <46DA9CCA.6020501@gmx.de> > Is there a way to add spaces to WikiWords for all users registered or > not? I realize you can set the preferencers to be checked > automatically, but I want the words always expanded. If you want pagenames with blanks, you better really do the pagenames with blanks (note: in the URL, blanks are %20). If you want pagenames with underscore, you better really do the pagenames with underscores (note: in the URL, underscores are _). I consider all that "format WikiWords nicely by putting blanks at word boundaries" to be rather evil magic. For English, you are lucky that this magic rather often might give you what you want, but this is not the case in general. Also - even for English - if it does not give you what you want in some cases, you can't do anything against it. BTW, the 1.6 converter will have some means to do a global one-time rename for pages by using a rename.txt file that has a mapping from old names to wanted names - maybe you can use this (later this year) if you decide against evil magic. :) BTW, in 1.6 links to pages with blanks will likely be a bit easier: [[a page with blanks in the name]] or [[a page with blanks in the name|displayed text]] From barkman at ams.com Sun Sep 2 20:55:26 2007 From: barkman at ams.com (=?Windows-1251?B?SVNPIDkwMDEtMjAwMA==?=) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 03:55:26 +0300 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?UODncODh7vLq4CDoIOLtZeTwZe3o5SDx6GPy?= =?windows-1251?b?5ez7IPPv8ODi62Xt6P8g6mH35fHy4u7s?= Message-ID: <489705803.20070830148379@190-51-19-16.speedy.com.ar> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is this at all possible with moinmoin? -- kazaam From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 4 13:42:00 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:42:00 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] quoteWikiNameURL defeats anchor usage in NewWindow macro Message-ID: <18141.39144.461435.832627@montanaro.dyndns.org> One of our users began using the NewWindow macro last week and discovered he couldn't use anchors in wiki page names. For example, this fails: [[NewWindow(FrontPage#anchor)]] Instead of generating a URL like http://www/wiki/FrontPage#anchor it generates http://www/wiki/FrontPage%23anchor The culprit seems to be quoteWikiNameURL which calls urllib.quote like this: urllib.quote(pagename) instead of urllib.quote(pagename, "/#") We're still using 1.3.5, but the code is the same in 1.5.8. Is there some specific reason that "#" is not considered "safe"? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 4 13:53:21 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:53:21 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] quoteWikiNameURL defeats anchor usage in NewWindow macro In-Reply-To: <18141.39144.461435.832627@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <18141.39144.461435.832627@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <18141.39825.258487.55825@montanaro.dyndns.org> skip> Instead of generating a URL like skip> http://www/wiki/FrontPage#anchor skip> it generates skip> http://www/wiki/FrontPage%23anchor skip> The culprit seems to be quoteWikiNameURL which calls urllib.quote like this: skip> urllib.quote(pagename) skip> instead of skip> urllib.quote(pagename, "/#") I worked around this by changing NewWindow.py to compute the href then replace the last occurrence of "%23" in the URL that's not followed by a "/": # wiki link href = (macro.request.getScriptname() + '/' + wikiutil.quoteWikinameURL(href)) href = re.sub("%23([^/]*)", r"#\1", href) html = '%(text)s' % { 'href': href, 'attribs': attribs, 'text': text, } so there's no need to change quoteWikinameURL. Still, I wonder if it would be better in the long run if it didn't quote "#". Skip From holzum1 at netcologne.de Thu Sep 6 13:26:26 2007 From: holzum1 at netcologne.de (Bernd Holzum) Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:26:26 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Too many clients? Message-ID: <2rp5r4-7o9.ln1@holzum.myfqdn.de> Hi, while using the MoinMoin Wiki at a classroom, a colleague of mine encountered a problem. In a computer classroom he asked the students to look at a certain group of pages (but not yet to edit them!). He said that a warning message appeared which said that no human individual could read so many pages in such little time; and that there would be a long lasting blockade if that would not stop. And so it happened. Of course, all the computers will have ip-addresses from the same range. Did that activate a kind of dos attack defense in the wiki? Who knows about that? Where can this functionality be triggered? Bernd Holzum From barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk Thu Sep 6 14:07:03 2007 From: barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Barry Cornelius) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 19:07:03 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Moin-user] Too many clients? In-Reply-To: <2rp5r4-7o9.ln1@holzum.myfqdn.de> References: <2rp5r4-7o9.ln1@holzum.myfqdn.de> Message-ID: On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Bernd Holzum wrote: > Of course, all the computers will have ip-addresses from the same range. Did > that activate a kind of dos attack defense in the wiki? Who knows about > that? Where can this functionality be triggered? To me, this sounds like the Surge Protection facility that was added to MoinMoin in version 1.5.2. There's more in the wiki page: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/SurgeProtection -- Barry Cornelius Computing Services, University of Oxford 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk Reception:273200 Fax:273275 http://www.barrycornelius.com 01865 273267 or +441865 273267 From vincefn at users.sourceforge.net Thu Sep 6 14:23:43 2007 From: vincefn at users.sourceforge.net (Vincent Favre-Nicolin) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:23:43 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Too many clients? In-Reply-To: <529E0C005F46104BA9DB3CB93F397975ED9017@TOKYO.intra.cea.fr> References: <529E0C005F46104BA9DB3CB93F397975ED9017@TOKYO.intra.cea.fr> Message-ID: <200709062023.43519.vincefn@users.sourceforge.net> Hi, > while using the MoinMoin Wiki at a classroom, a colleague of mine > encountered a problem. In a computer classroom he asked the students to > look at a certain group of pages (but not yet to edit them!). He said that > a warning message appeared which said that no human individual could read > so many pages in such little time; and that there would be a long lasting > blockade if that would not stop. And so it happened. > > Of course, all the computers will have ip-addresses from the same range. > Did that activate a kind of dos attack defense in the wiki? Who knows about > that? Where can this functionality be triggered? You need to change the "surge protection" feature in moinmoin. See: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/SurgeProtection or, since moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de seems to be down, on any other wiki: http://objcryst.sourceforge.net/Fox/HelpOnConfiguration/SurgeProtection Vincent -- Vincent Favre-Nicolin Universit? Joseph Fourier http://v.favrenicolin.free.fr ObjCryst & Fox : http://objcryst.sourceforge.net From rickvanderveer at yahoo.com Thu Sep 6 14:20:16 2007 From: rickvanderveer at yahoo.com (Rick VanDerveer) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 11:20:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] (no subject) Message-ID: <802140.11482.qm@web50901.mail.re2.yahoo.com> And in a twisted bit of irony, http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de is throwing a "500 - Internal Server Error" :-) -Rick -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Barry Cornelius Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 1:07 PM To: Bernd Holzum Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Too many clients? On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Bernd Holzum wrote: > Of course, all the computers will have ip-addresses from the same > range. Did that activate a kind of dos attack defense in the wiki? Who > knows about that? Where can this functionality be triggered? To me, this sounds like the Surge Protection facility that was added to MoinMoin in version 1.5.2. There's more in the wiki page: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/SurgeProtection ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From am68 at umail.umd.edu Thu Sep 6 22:03:53 2007 From: am68 at umail.umd.edu (=?Windows-1251?B?UmU6IMrg5PD7?=) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:03:53 +0300 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?UODhb/LgIOph5HDu4vv1IPHr8+bhIO1hIO9w?= =?windows-1251?b?ZeTv8Oj/8ujo?= Message-ID: <894339178.20070906387642@58.18.150.127> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Fri Sep 7 03:12:30 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 09:12:30 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Too many clients? In-Reply-To: References: <2rp5r4-7o9.ln1@holzum.myfqdn.de> Message-ID: A solution would be to ask the users (students) to log in before they make the request. My personal expirience is that this surge protection is a bit too strict in standard config. I run into it all the time and I'm not superhuman at all. I do tend to work with multiple tabs at the same time to easely reproduce things that reoccur over the wiki or check how the syntax is of something I used before already. Boris On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:07:03 +0200, Barry Cornelius wrote: > On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Bernd Holzum wrote: >> Of course, all the computers will have ip-addresses from the same >> range. Did >> that activate a kind of dos attack defense in the wiki? Who knows about >> that? Where can this functionality be triggered? > > To me, this sounds like the Surge Protection facility that was added to > MoinMoin in version 1.5.2. There's more in the wiki page: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/SurgeProtection > > -- > Barry Cornelius Computing Services, University of Oxford > 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK > barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk Reception:273200 Fax:273275 > http://www.barrycornelius.com 01865 273267 or +441865 273267 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user -- Boris Callens FedEx From rickvanderveer at yahoo.com Fri Sep 7 10:10:35 2007 From: rickvanderveer at yahoo.com (Rick VanDerveer) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Too many clients? Message-ID: <438325.94053.qm@web50902.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I agree, it is too easy to run into. Our wiki is internal, so I don't have to worry about spammers or bots surging our wiki. Therefore I decided to turn it off altogether. You can do so like this: surge_action_limits = none Hope this helps... -Rick > A solution would be to ask the users (students) to log in before they make > the request. > My personal expirience is that this surge protection is a bit too strict > in standard config. > I run into it all the time and I'm not superhuman at all. > I do tend to work with multiple tabs at the same time to easely reproduce > things that reoccur over the wiki or check how the syntax is of something > I used before already. > > Boris > > On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:07:03 +0200, Barry Cornelius > wrote: > >> On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, Bernd Holzum wrote: >>> Of course, all the computers will have ip-addresses from the same >>> range. Did >>> that activate a kind of dos attack defense in the wiki? Who knows about >>> that? Where can this functionality be triggered? >> >> To me, this sounds like the Surge Protection facility that was added to >> MoinMoin in version 1.5.2. There's more in the wiki page: >> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/SurgeProtection >> >> -- >> Barry Cornelius Computing Services, University of Oxford >> 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK >> barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk Reception:273200 Fax:273275 >> http://www.barrycornelius.com 01865 273267 or +441865 273267 ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Fri Sep 7 10:39:06 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 16:39:06 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] pruning / remove from queries Message-ID: Dear list, As I am trying to revive an old and chaotic wiki I was wondering if it is possible to move pages out of the system without deleting them. I don't want to show pages to users, as more readable and up-to-date information is provided, but I want to keep them for safety's sake. I wouldn't want to end up in a situation where I didn't recreate a part of vital information, but deleted the old (source) document. I first thought of just moving them to a 'OldPages' page, but that would still make them show up in TOC's, regexes and searches. Then I thought of backing up the whole data dir and deleting the pages in the running version, but importing pages from a backup is too much of a hassle in my current working environment. It would be handy if I could put a #!Dont_index tag or semething like that. Any suggestions? -- Boris Callens FedEx From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Fri Sep 7 19:23:22 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:23:22 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] pruning / remove from queries In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3130eec50709071623ie3e01ffl5115bc4140687150@mail.gmail.com> I also would like to disallow certain pages from search results. -- Gnarlie On 9/7/07, Boris Callens wrote: > Dear list, > > As I am trying to revive an old and chaotic wiki I was wondering if it is > possible to move pages out of the system without deleting them. > I don't want to show pages to users, as more readable and up-to-date > information is provided, but I want to keep them for safety's sake. I > wouldn't want to end up in a situation where I didn't recreate a part of > vital information, but deleted the old (source) document. > I first thought of just moving them to a 'OldPages' page, but that would > still make them show up in TOC's, regexes and searches. > Then I thought of backing up the whole data dir and deleting the pages in > the running version, but importing pages from a backup is too much of a > hassle in my current working environment. > > It would be handy if I could put a #!Dont_index tag or semething like that. > Any suggestions? > > -- > Boris Callens > FedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From mail at heavy.ch Sat Sep 8 14:23:37 2007 From: mail at heavy.ch (mail at heavy.ch) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:23:37 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] pruning / remove from queries In-Reply-To: <3130eec50709071623ie3e01ffl5115bc4140687150@mail.gmail.com> References: <3130eec50709071623ie3e01ffl5115bc4140687150@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1189275817.5809.0.camel@lestat.vampyre.home> Hi there for your problem I would also use some ACL to remove read (also even finding the page via searcH) access to everyone except to yourself (or some group of users). More about acl would be here: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAccessControlLists hope that's helps! cya Marcel Am Freitag, den 07.09.2007, 17:23 -0600 schrieb Gnarlodious: > I also would like to disallow certain pages from search results. > > -- Gnarlie > > > On 9/7/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > As I am trying to revive an old and chaotic wiki I was wondering if it is > > possible to move pages out of the system without deleting them. > > I don't want to show pages to users, as more readable and up-to-date > > information is provided, but I want to keep them for safety's sake. I > > wouldn't want to end up in a situation where I didn't recreate a part of > > vital information, but deleted the old (source) document. > > I first thought of just moving them to a 'OldPages' page, but that would > > still make them show up in TOC's, regexes and searches. > > Then I thought of backing up the whole data dir and deleting the pages in > > the running version, but importing pages from a backup is too much of a > > hassle in my current working environment. > > > > It would be handy if I could put a #!Dont_index tag or semething like that. > > Any suggestions? > > > > -- > > Boris Callens > > FedEx > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Sat Sep 8 15:05:00 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:05:00 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Slower title search than text search Message-ID: <20070908210500.70a51c3d.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Hi I get extremely slow title searches in moinmoin now. The current version is 1.5.8. Especially slow is titles that are down a hierarchy : /Programming/Python/Moinmoin for example. Searching for 'm' goes fast 'mo' slower 'moi' slower and Moinmoin is very slow (10-20 seconds) and I have only a few pages yet in my wiki. I noticed the page: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/SlowLinktoSearch but I'm not sure it is the same problem? I have deleted all cache files and it didn't help. Are anybody else seeing these problems? Thanks in advance Preben From billiejoex at gmail.com Sun Sep 9 07:25:28 2007 From: billiejoex at gmail.com (billiejoex) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 13:25:28 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] wiki --> HTML conversion with MoinDump Message-ID: <729626cc0709090425o791da336v12d6529e39355363@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, I'm using Google Code wiki service to provide documentation for a project of mine. Wiki pages used by Google Code appear like this one: http://code.google.com/p/billiejoex/wiki/FAQ ...and the following is the markup language used in it: http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/WikiSyntax I need to convert such pages into "static" HTML files and provide them along the packaged release. I noticed that MoinDump could solve my problem but I'm not practiced in using it. I was hoping in something like: >>> moin.py --input=doc.wiki --ouput=doc.html ...but it seems harder than that. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Mon Sep 10 14:08:04 2007 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:08:04 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] Slower title search than text search In-Reply-To: <20070908210500.70a51c3d.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> References: <20070908210500.70a51c3d.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Message-ID: <4459f0d30709101108y6b1c5bd1n26a63fe26a88d71b@mail.gmail.com> Hi Preben. > I get extremely slow title searches in moinmoin now. The current > version is 1.5.8. Especially slow is titles that are down a hierarchy : > /Programming/Python/Moinmoin for example. [...] > Are anybody else seeing these problems? Not me, in any of my wikifarm wikis. ?What platform do you have? Regards... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. http://simplementewiki.org http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/ From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Mon Sep 10 14:44:12 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:44:12 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Slower title search than text search In-Reply-To: <4459f0d30709101108y6b1c5bd1n26a63fe26a88d71b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070908210500.70a51c3d.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> <4459f0d30709101108y6b1c5bd1n26a63fe26a88d71b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070910204412.ddcceaa7.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:08:04 -0300 "Eduardo Mercovich" wrote: > Not me, in any of my wikifarm wikis. ?What platform do you have? Debian Unstable From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Tue Sep 11 04:09:40 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:09:40 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] tables in moinmoin In-Reply-To: <4459f0d30709101105t2f92e732g124bc76ff7a86834@mail.gmail.com> References: <4459f0d30708300941hbb15c4eja828b840779f375a@mail.gmail.com> <4459f0d30709101105t2f92e732g124bc76ff7a86834@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Eduardo, Thx for the reply. The problem is more complex actually. The table contains close to no text. Actually it's a shift shedule for the Helpdesk teams so they can see who is to be contact at what time. For example: From 0:00 till 10:00 om mondays the cells are colored green, meaning it's a Bangalore shift. So the problem is that if you export to cvs, those color codes are lost. Replacing them with a character or text is about as much work as recreating the whole table in wiki. Fedex is rather strict with their security policy, so I fear I cannot send you the table. Boris FedEx On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:05:02 +0200, Eduardo Mercovich wrote: > Hi Boris. > > Sorry the delay (lots of work). > >> I tried manually inserting some basic HTML in the html view (just a >>
test
), but it fails. >> Seems the html view is not meant for inserting, only for reading. >> Or is this not normal and is my moin screwed up? > > Since I don't use it, I can't tell. But in that case, did you tried > Excell -> CVS -> search & replace comma/||? > > This sould work for sure, and it takes just seconds in any decent text > editor... > > If it is not secret, send me your table and I'll look at it. :-) > > Regards... > -- Boris Callens FedEx From dhodgman at linkme.com.au Mon Sep 10 23:35:53 2007 From: dhodgman at linkme.com.au (Dave Hodgman) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:35:53 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Can't get the GUI editor to work Message-ID: <006901c7f424$db3ce6b0$3801a8c0@armadale.linkme.net.au> Hi all, probably just a moin/python newbie question here. I've got moinmoin mostly working on a new machine but can't get the GUI editor to run. I'm assuming that moin still needs pyxml so I've tried to install it using PyXML-0.8.4.win32-py2.4.exe but this doesn't work because I'm using python 2.5. My next stop was to try to build and install from the pyxml source but was then getting complaints about the wrong compiler. I'm getting sick of hitting one road block after another and would appreciate some advice before I waste any more time on this. Where do I go from here? Do I go back to python 2.4? Or do I try to manually install pyxml? And how? Or do I not need pyxml anyway? The diagnostics output below might help I guess. Any help you can give me would be much appreciated. MoinMoin Diagnosis ====================== Release 1.5.8 Revision release Python version 2.5.1 (r251:54863, Apr 18 2007, 08:51:08) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)] Python installed to F:\Python25 PyXML is NOT installed Python Path: F:/moin/wikime F:/moin/lib/site-packages F:\moin\wikime F:\WINDOWS\system32\python25.zip F:\Python25\DLLs F:\Python25\lib F:\Python25\lib\plat-win F:\Python25\lib\lib-tk F:\Python25 F:\Python25\lib\site-packages F:/moin/Lib/site-packages Checking directories... data directory tests OK (set to 'F:\moin\wikime\data') user directory tests OK (set to 'F:\moin\wikime\data\user') Server Environment: ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST! Unit Tests: error: access error like a dict ... ok error: create with encoded string ... ok error: create with any object ... ok error: create with unicode ... ok new locking: NoLockingForReading tests if files still work when filename is target of a rename ... ERROR ERROR testQuoting (MoinMoin._tests.test_packages.QuotingTestCase) ... ok testBasicPackageThings (MoinMoin._tests.test_packages.UnsafePackageTestcase) ... ERROR Page: page.exists() finds existing pages only ... ok PageEditor: expand @USERNAME@ CamelCase ... ok PageEditor: expand @USERNAME@ extended name - enabled ... ok PageEditor: expand @MAILTO@ ... ok PageEditor: expand user variables ... ok PageEditor: expand general variables ... ok pysupport: import existing wiki plugin ... ok pysupport: import name from existing module ... ok pysupport: import nonexistent attritbue raises AttributeError ... ok pysupport: import nonexistent module raises ImportError ... ok pysupport: import nonexistent wiki plugin fail ... ok request: normalize pagename: restrict groups to alpha numeric Unicode ... ok request: httpDate default rfc1123 ... ok request: httpDate rfc850 ... ok request: normalize pagename: normalize slashes ... ok request: normalize pagename: normalize whitespace ... ok request: normalize pagename: remove invalid unicode chars ... ok request: normalize pagename: underscore convert to spaces and normalized ... ok search: quoting bug - unquoted terms ... ok search: quoting bug - quoted terms ... ok user: encode ascii password ... ok user: encode unicode password ... ok user: isValidName: reject group names ... ok user: isValidName: reject unicode non alpha numeric characters ... ok user: isValidName: accept names in any language, with spaces ... ok user: isValidName: reject leading, trailing or multiple whitespace ... ok user: login with ascii password ... ok user: login with non-ascii password in pre 1.3 user file ... ok user: login replace old non-ascii password in pre 1.3 user file ... ok user: login with non-ascii password ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: acquire ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: acquire after timeout ... ok util.lock: os.stat().mtime consistency with time.time() ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: lock is exclusive ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: exists ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: expire ... FAIL util.lock: ExclusiveLock: isExpired ... FAIL util.lock: ExclusiveLock: isLocked ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: release ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: raise ValueError for timeout < 2.0 ... ok util.mail: encode address: 'Phrase ' ... ok util.mail: encode Uncode address: '???? ' ... ok util.mail: encode address with empty address: 'Phrase <>' ... ok util.mail: encode address with empty phrase: '' ... ok util.mail: encode invalid address 'Phrase Ltd Ground Floor, 615 Dandenong Rd Armadale VIC 3143 mobile 0412 322 847 direct 03 8508 9156 main 03 8508 9111 fax 03 8508 9191 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: attaaf3d.bmp Type: image/bmp Size: 30454 bytes Desc: not available URL: From marcoalher at yahoo.com.br Tue Sep 11 15:58:10 2007 From: marcoalher at yahoo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc=E3o?=) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:58:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Help on macro.formatter Message-ID: <636782.4307.qm@web56508.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi All. I'm new in Moin and Python and I'm facing some problems that I think is very simple. I have a list "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" that I print with this command: lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (lista)) The result is: aaa bbb ccc ddd eee But I need to print this like: aaa bbb ccc ddd eee I don't know how to print like this. Could someone help me ? Thanks Marco Flickr agora em portugu?s. Voc? clica, todo mundo v?. http://www.flickr.com.br/ From cdnac1 at ims.u-tokyo.ac.jp Wed Sep 12 04:57:22 2007 From: cdnac1 at ims.u-tokyo.ac.jp (=?Windows-1251?B?SODrb+Nv4m/lIO/r4O3ocO7i4O3oZQ==?=) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 12:57:22 +0400 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?UOVj8vDz6vLz8Ojn4Pbo/yDh6OftZfFhIOIg?= =?windows-1251?b?43Dz7+/zIOpv7O/g7ejp?= Message-ID: <863260614.20070420622015@125.110.252.48> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Sep 12 09:12:49 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 07:12:49 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Instructions on despamming Message-ID: <3130eec50709120612s361449b7p94ab57b565b3e70c@mail.gmail.com> I am starting to get a lot of spam. When I activate the "Despam" action I get a page with something like this: Editor Pages link 12-208-228-173 1 Select Author 201-3-47-57 1 Select Author Antispam subsystem 1 Select Author Gnarlodious 1 Select Author levelmyth123 1 Select Author I don't understand what to do to remove the spam page and report it to the BadContent system. Instructions, please. -- Gnarlie From marcoalher at yahoo.com.br Wed Sep 12 13:11:05 2007 From: marcoalher at yahoo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc=E3o?=) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 10:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Res: Help on macro.formatter Message-ID: <488913.57225.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Hi Ted and All The '\n' in the expression 'return macro.formatter.text("%s\n" % (lista))' does not work because the 'new line' is put only in the lista's end, not inside it. I also tried the following: lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd" lre = re.compile(' ') listafinal = lre.sub('\n',lista) return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (listafinal)) But it still does not work, although it works in the following code: lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee kkk" lre = re.compile(' ') x = lre.sub('\n',lista) print x The result of it is: aaa bbb ccc ddd kkk So i think que problem is how the Moin Engine works with '\n'. Is there a way to send a html code directly to a wiki's page ? So I could send some thing like "
aaa

bbb

ccc
" Thanks Marco ----- Mensagem original ---- De: Ted Stern Para: Marc?o Enviadas: Ter?a-feira, 11 de Setembro de 2007 19:15:46 Assunto: Re: [Moin-user] Help on macro.formatter On 11 Sep 2007 12:58:10 -0700, Marc?o wrote: > > Hi All. > > I'm new in Moin and Python and I'm facing some problems that I think is very simple. > > I have a list "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" that I print with this command: > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" > return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (lista)) What happens if you put "%s\n" instead? > > The result is: > > aaa bbb ccc ddd eee > > But I need to print this like: > > aaa > bbb > ccc > ddd > eee > > > I don't know how to print like this. > Could someone help me ? > > Thanks > > Marco > > > > > Flickr agora em portugu?s. Voc? clica, todo mundo v?. > http://www.flickr.com.br/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -- dodecatheon at gmail dot com Frango ut patefaciam -- I break so that I may reveal Flickr agora em portugu?s. Voc? clica, todo mundo v?. http://www.flickr.com.br/ From mail at heavy.ch Wed Sep 12 15:56:14 2007 From: mail at heavy.ch (mail at heavy.ch) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 21:56:14 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Res: Help on macro.formatter In-Reply-To: <488913.57225.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <488913.57225.qm@web56504.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1189626974.12387.3.camel@lestat.vampyre.home> Hi there You could use the "macro.formatter.rawHTML(string)". This will return your html-code. bye Marcel to return html. But maybe need to be aware Am Mittwoch, den 12.09.2007, 10:11 -0700 schrieb Marc?o: > Hi Ted and All > > The '\n' in the expression 'return macro.formatter.text("%s\n" % (lista))' does not work because the 'new line' is put only in the lista's end, not inside it. > > I also tried the following: > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd" > lre = re.compile(' ') > listafinal = lre.sub('\n',lista) > return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (listafinal)) > > But it still does not work, although it works in the following code: > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee kkk" > lre = re.compile(' ') > x = lre.sub('\n',lista) > print x > > The result of it is: > aaa > bbb > ccc > ddd > kkk > > So i think que problem is how the Moin Engine works with '\n'. > > Is there a way to send a html code directly to a wiki's page ? > > So I could send some thing like "
aaa

bbb

ccc
" > > Thanks > > Marco > > > > > ----- Mensagem original ---- > De: Ted Stern > Para: Marc?o > Enviadas: Ter?a-feira, 11 de Setembro de 2007 19:15:46 > Assunto: Re: [Moin-user] Help on macro.formatter > > On 11 Sep 2007 12:58:10 -0700, Marc?o wrote: > > > > Hi All. > > > > I'm new in Moin and Python and I'm facing some problems that I think is very simple. > > > > I have a list "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" that I print with this command: > > > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" > > return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (lista)) > > What happens if you put "%s\n" instead? > > > > > The result is: > > > > aaa bbb ccc ddd eee > > > > But I need to print this like: > > > > aaa > > bbb > > ccc > > ddd > > eee > > > > > > I don't know how to print like this. > > Could someone help me ? > > > > Thanks > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > > > Flickr agora em portugu?s. Voc? clica, todo mundo v?. > > http://www.flickr.com.br/ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Sep 13 02:59:24 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 08:59:24 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Instructions on despamming In-Reply-To: <3130eec50709120612s361449b7p94ab57b565b3e70c@mail.gmail.com> References: <3130eec50709120612s361449b7p94ab57b565b3e70c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1189666764.17311.3.camel@black> Am Mittwoch, den 12.09.2007, 07:12 -0600 schrieb Gnarlodious: > I am starting to get a lot of spam. When I activate the "Despam" > action I get a page with something like this: > > Editor Pages link > 12-208-228-173 1 Select Author > 201-3-47-57 1 Select Author > Antispam subsystem 1 Select Author > Gnarlodious 1 Select Author > levelmyth123 1 Select Author In that list, you need to select the spammer (I bet it was levelmyth123 in your case :). > I don't understand what to do to remove the spam page That should revert all edits done by that author (except there have been other edits afterwards to the pages). > and report it to > the BadContent system. Instructions, please. That isn't included in antispam action, you need to manually go to moinmaster wiki's BadContent page and add the patterns there. In that concrete case, I added the patterns already. From robert.seeger at orsoft.de Thu Sep 13 04:49:00 2007 From: robert.seeger at orsoft.de (Robert Seeger (OR Soft)) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 10:49:00 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Res: Help on macro.formatter In-Reply-To: <1189626974.12387.3.camel@lestat.vampyre.home> Message-ID: <001301c7f5e2$eebdab10$7202a8c0@orsxrs> This is not recommended. You should try to avoid injecting raw HTML unless it is some complicated, non-standard stuff. Use the formatter API for all output. In your case iterate over the list, use fomatter.text() and formatter.linebreak(preformatted=1). See MoinMoin\formatter\text_html.py for the formatter API Kind Regards, Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: mail at heavy.ch [mailto:mail at heavy.ch] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:56 PM > To: moin-user > Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Res: Help on macro.formatter > > > Hi there > > You could use the "macro.formatter.rawHTML(string)". This will return > your html-code. > > bye > Marcel > > > to return html. But maybe need to be aware > Am Mittwoch, den 12.09.2007, 10:11 -0700 schrieb Marc?o: > > Hi Ted and All > > > > The '\n' in the expression 'return > macro.formatter.text("%s\n" % (lista))' does not work because > the 'new line' is put only in the lista's end, not inside it. > > > > I also tried the following: > > > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd" > > lre = re.compile(' ') > > listafinal = lre.sub('\n',lista) > > return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (listafinal)) > > > > But it still does not work, although it works in the following code: > > > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee kkk" > > lre = re.compile(' ') > > x = lre.sub('\n',lista) > > print x > > > > The result of it is: > > aaa > > bbb > > ccc > > ddd > > kkk > > > > So i think que problem is how the Moin Engine works with '\n'. > > > > Is there a way to send a html code directly to a wiki's page ? > > > > So I could send some thing like > "
aaa

bbb

ccc
" > > > > Thanks > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > > > ----- Mensagem original ---- > > De: Ted Stern > > Para: Marc?o > > Enviadas: Ter?a-feira, 11 de Setembro de 2007 19:15:46 > > Assunto: Re: [Moin-user] Help on macro.formatter > > > > On 11 Sep 2007 12:58:10 -0700, Marc?o wrote: > > > > > > Hi All. > > > > > > I'm new in Moin and Python and I'm facing some problems > that I think is very simple. > > > > > > I have a list "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" that I print with > this command: > > > > > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" > > > return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (lista)) > > > > What happens if you put "%s\n" instead? > > > > > > > > The result is: > > > > > > aaa bbb ccc ddd eee > > > > > > But I need to print this like: > > > > > > aaa > > > bbb > > > ccc > > > ddd > > > eee > > > > > > > > > I don't know how to print like this. > > > Could someone help me ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Flickr agora em portugu?s. 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(?????). ???? ???????? ?? ??????????? ?????. ?????????? ?????????????? ??????????-????????(???), ??????-??????, ?????????? ????????. > ??O??O??? * 560.00 ?p?. ? ?a o??o?o ??ac????a, (?e? H?C, e????? ?a?o?). * ??? ??opo?? ? ?pe????? ???c????? c????? ? 5% ? 7% ?oo???????????. * B c?o??o??? ?x????: ?????????????-???????????????? ???????????? ?? ????????, ??????? ??????????, ????-?????, ???? ? ?????????. > P???????? * 09.30-16.30 * ??????? 13.30-14.30 * Pe??c?p???? c 9.00 ? ?o??epe??-?a?? ????? ??????????. > PE????????? * ?e?.: (044) 331-6414, 592-7564 * Ka???? ??ac???? ce?????? ?o???ae? ????a???p???? ?o???e?? ? o?????a?? ?????e??o?: ?o?o??p, a??, op????a? c?e?a, ?o??? c???e?e?????. From dhodgman at linkme.com.au Wed Sep 12 04:43:56 2007 From: dhodgman at linkme.com.au (Dave Hodgman) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 18:43:56 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] The "Add spaces to displayed wiki names" feature does not appear to be working in 1.5.8. Message-ID: <00c201c7f519$0fac3500$3801a8c0@armadale.linkme.net.au> Hi all, I have the "Add spaces to displayed wiki names" feature selected in my preferences however it appears not to be working. Should I be seeing the page names in the banner and links everywhere else with a space inserted or does this option refer to something else? Regards, Dave Hodgman LinkMe Pty Ltd Ground Floor, 615 Dandenong Rd Armadale VIC 3143 mobile 0412 322 847 direct 03 8508 9156 main 03 8508 9111 fax 03 8508 9191 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Outlook.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 120321 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The server environment is: Centos 4.x server running apache 2.0.52-32.3.ent.centos4 Moinmoin 1.5.8 connecting via SSL The workstation environment is: Fedora Core 7 Firefox 2.0.0.6 However, this problem has persisted over several releases of Moinmoin, Fedora Core and Firefox. It also predates the use of SSL. It also occurs with users of Internet Explorer, although I do most of the editing on our wiki instances. I have searched the list archives repeatedly for clues and have found nothing that has helped. The cookie_lifetime is set for 12 hours, but in my preferences, I remember login info. The edit_locking parameter is set to "lock 120". Reverse DNS lockups work fine on my system and the problem occurs regardless of the the log_reverse_dns_lookups setting. Enabling MOIN_DEBUG in moin.cgi has not produced any helpful error messages, although it's possible I'm not looking in the right places. My hunch is that this is not really a Moinmoin problem and may be an Apache or network setting issue, but I don't know where to look or what diagnostic strategy to follow. Would really appreciate some clues to look for or some suggested strategies to follow. Thanks in advance. -- BobJ ______________________________________________________ Bob Jackson Department of Sociology Duke University From marcoalher at yahoo.com.br Fri Sep 14 15:26:30 2007 From: marcoalher at yahoo.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Marc=E3o?=) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Solved : Help on macro.formatter Message-ID: <375457.38039.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Thank you Robert and Dave. I did the folowing: commandoutput = "aaa bbb ccc ddd" lista = commandoutput.split(' ') for i in lista: result.append(macro.formatter.rawHTML('

%s

' %i)) return "\n".join(result) And, then, I got the result: aaa bbb ccc ddd I read something saying we should avoid using the macro.formatter.rawHTML, but my wiki is used for few people, and none of then knows what is a macro :) Kind Regards, Marco ----- Mensagem original ---- De: Robert Seeger (OR Soft) Para: moin-user Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 13 de Setembro de 2007 5:49:00 Assunto: Re: [Moin-user] Res: Help on macro.formatter This is not recommended. You should try to avoid injecting raw HTML unless it is some complicated, non-standard stuff. Use the formatter API for all output. In your case iterate over the list, use fomatter.text() and formatter.linebreak(preformatted=1). See MoinMoin\formatter\text_html.py for the formatter API Kind Regards, Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: mail at heavy.ch [mailto:mail at heavy.ch] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 9:56 PM > To: moin-user > Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Res: Help on macro.formatter > > > Hi there > > You could use the "macro.formatter.rawHTML(string)". This will return > your html-code. > > bye > Marcel > > > to return html. But maybe need to be aware > Am Mittwoch, den 12.09.2007, 10:11 -0700 schrieb Marc?o: > > Hi Ted and All > > > > The '\n' in the expression 'return > macro.formatter.text("%s\n" % (lista))' does not work because > the 'new line' is put only in the lista's end, not inside it. > > > > I also tried the following: > > > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd" > > lre = re.compile(' ') > > listafinal = lre.sub('\n',lista) > > return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (listafinal)) > > > > But it still does not work, although it works in the following code: > > > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee kkk" > > lre = re.compile(' ') > > x = lre.sub('\n',lista) > > print x > > > > The result of it is: > > aaa > > bbb > > ccc > > ddd > > kkk > > > > So i think que problem is how the Moin Engine works with '\n'. > > > > Is there a way to send a html code directly to a wiki's page ? > > > > So I could send some thing like > "
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" > > > > Thanks > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > > > ----- Mensagem original ---- > > De: Ted Stern > > Para: Marc?o > > Enviadas: Ter?a-feira, 11 de Setembro de 2007 19:15:46 > > Assunto: Re: [Moin-user] Help on macro.formatter > > > > On 11 Sep 2007 12:58:10 -0700, Marc?o wrote: > > > > > > Hi All. > > > > > > I'm new in Moin and Python and I'm facing some problems > that I think is very simple. > > > > > > I have a list "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" that I print with > this command: > > > > > > lista = "aaa bbb ccc ddd eee" > > > return macro.formatter.text("%s" % (lista)) > > > > What happens if you put "%s\n" instead? > > > > > > > > The result is: > > > > > > aaa bbb ccc ddd eee > > > > > > But I need to print this like: > > > > > > aaa > > > bbb > > > ccc > > > ddd > > > eee > > > > > > > > > I don't know how to print like this. > > > Could someone help me ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Marco > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Flickr agora em portugu?s. Voc? clica, todo mundo v?. > > > http://www.flickr.com.br/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > > > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moin-user mailing list > > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user Flickr agora em portugu?s. Voc? clica, todo mundo v?. http://www.flickr.com.br/ From bidule7007 at yahoo.fr Fri Sep 14 16:42:52 2007 From: bidule7007 at yahoo.fr (=?Windows-1251?B?UmU6INTo7eDt8fs=?=) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:42:52 +0300 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?z3Do4utl92Xt6OUg9Ojt4O1j6PDu4uDt6P8=?= Message-ID: <499453911.20070914094975@bd04ba25.sts.virtua.com.br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gmayes at vmware.com Fri Sep 14 16:44:35 2007 From: gmayes at vmware.com (Geoff Mayes) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:44:35 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] PageList Macro rarely works for subpages In-Reply-To: <375457.38039.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <040EC1DE5CE40647A1E7BEECD85F62CB0D8599C5@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> Hi, I have 56 pages organized under mysite/Performance/Automation. I want to use the PageList macro to display these pages under /Performance/Automation on different pages scattered throughout the wiki, but I can't figure out how to do this. This is on Moin 1.5.6, fastcgi, Apache 2.2.3, RHEL5. These PageList syntaces work all the time: [[PageList(title:Performance)]] [[PageList(title:Performance Automation)]] [[PageList(title:Performance title:Automation)]] [[PageList(regex:^Performance.*)]] These rarely and randomly, and are exactly what I'm after: [[PageList(regex:^Performance/Automation/.*)]] [[PageList(regex:^Performance/Automation.*)]] These never work (I've tried escaping the backslashes too): [[PageList(title:Performance/Automation)]] [[PageList(title:Performance/Automation/)]] Anyone know why the randomly appearing ones are random (cache, fastcgi, etc?)? Anyone know where I can look to figure out what's going on? Anyone know of a better macro or a better way to list pages of a subpage? Thanks for any help, Geoff From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Fri Sep 14 16:49:08 2007 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Persistent loss of edits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <448865.80548.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I had a user with a similar problem in a thread titled "User Says Page Edits Are Not Always Saved" in June of this year. This user had reported the problem off and on over the last two years. In the most extreme case she reported having to make the same editing change 4 or 5 times before it was saved. She is using IE 6 on Windows/XP, the server is on a Fedora Core 6, was Core 4. Moin versions probably varied from 1.3.x to 1.5.8 over the timeframe. The problem was not solved. The best documentation I was able to collect was when she sent me a email stating the problem had just happened and she was able to tell me the phrase she was trying to insert into the page. Using the page info action, I found the server timestamp of the sucessful operation and was able to then review the Apache log for prior transactions. Because the user did not trust that her changes were going to be saved, she was in the habit of making a small change, saving the page, edit, save, edit, etc. By looking at the moin page info and the apache log, I was able to determine which POST entries in the Apache log related to successful updates. The increasing lengths of successive POST entries showed her editing progress. Just prior to the successful save timestamp of the incident, there was a entry where the POST response length was decreased by 21 bytes. This is the difference between the length of the messages: Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is appreciated. You did not change the page content, not saved! I think that was the log entry of the problem incident. That was as far as I got in debugging the problem. It appears Moin is saying it received no changes for the problem POST. I suspected a bug in IE6, possibly related to a cut and paste operation into the textarea -- that hunch was only based on googling and finding very obscure references. However, I could not reproduce the problem. If you can reproduce the problem at will, that would be a great start. Roger Haase --- Bob Jackson wrote: > For several months now I have been experiencing a problem with loss > of > edits while using Moinmoin. It occurs when both the "Save Changes" > and > "Preview" buttons are used and the outcome is that things go back to > the > original page before the edit was started. In the case of > previewing, > nothing is previewed. > > This is a time sensitive phenomenon. It never occurs with quick > edits, > but by my estimate becomes a risk sometime after 5-10 minutes of > editing. > Basically I now make sure that I've cut to the clipboard any > significant > edits before saving or previewing to cover against losses. > > The server environment is: > > Centos 4.x server running apache 2.0.52-32.3.ent.centos4 > Moinmoin 1.5.8 connecting via SSL > > The workstation environment is: > > Fedora Core 7 > Firefox 2.0.0.6 > > However, this problem has persisted over several releases of > Moinmoin, > Fedora Core and Firefox. It also predates the use of SSL. It also > occurs > with users of Internet Explorer, although I do most of the editing on > our > wiki instances. > > I have searched the list archives repeatedly for clues and have found > > nothing that has helped. The cookie_lifetime is set for 12 hours, > but in > my preferences, I remember login info. The edit_locking parameter is > set > to "lock 120". Reverse DNS lockups work fine on my system and the > problem occurs regardless of the the log_reverse_dns_lookups setting. > > Enabling MOIN_DEBUG in moin.cgi has not produced any helpful error > messages, although it's possible I'm not looking in the right places. > > My hunch is that this is not really a Moinmoin problem and may be an > Apache or network setting issue, but I don't know where to look or > what > diagnostic strategy to follow. Would really appreciate some clues to > look > for or some suggested strategies to follow. > > Thanks in advance. -- BobJ > > ______________________________________________________ > Bob Jackson > Department of Sociology > Duke University > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From rick.vanderveer at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 17:05:58 2007 From: rick.vanderveer at gmail.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:05:58 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Persistent loss of edits In-Reply-To: <9B15C214F0DECF4A806080BBA962CCE6074F33B56A@atl-cpp-cas1.us.niit.com> References: <9B15C214F0DECF4A806080BBA962CCE6074F33B56A@atl-cpp-cas1.us.niit.com> Message-ID: <5c39e1ca0709141405q1b1d5482gbc8df989ba431fa5@mail.gmail.com> I'm the other person who has reported this problem. I haven't gone thru all the diagnosis that Roger has, but I can say that this problem is consistent for every person who uses IE to edit the wiki. It doesn't matter if it's IE6 or IE7. Firefox is never a problem. (But it's hard to get people to remember to use Firefox, and I can't force them because we have several internal pages that only work in IE. grrrrrr). The only thing special about my setup (not really special) is that I'm using domain authentication via mod_auth_sspi, running on Windows XP, with FastCGI. I've also made some small screen.css tweaks to the 'modern' theme, but I can't imagine that would cause any problems either (I suspect it's something with the authentication, but I don't really know how to effectively diagnose it). -Rick -----Original Message----- > From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto: > moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Roger Haase > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:49 PM > To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Persistent loss of edits > > I had a user with a similar problem in a thread titled "User Says Page > Edits Are Not Always Saved" in June of this year. > > This user had reported the problem off and on over the last two years. > In the most extreme case she reported having to make the same editing > change 4 or 5 times before it was saved. She is using IE 6 on Windows/XP, > the server is on a Fedora Core 6, was Core 4. Moin versions probably varied > from 1.3.x to 1.5.8 over the timeframe. > > The problem was not solved. The best documentation I was able to collect > was when she sent me a email stating the problem had just happened and she > was able to tell me the phrase she was trying to insert into the page. > > Using the page info action, I found the server timestamp of the sucessful > operation and was able to then review the Apache log for prior > transactions. Because the user did not trust that her changes were going to > be saved, she was in the habit of making a small change, saving the page, > edit, save, edit, etc. > > By looking at the moin page info and the apache log, I was able to > determine which POST entries in the Apache log related to successful > updates. The increasing lengths of successive POST entries showed her > editing progress. > > Just prior to the successful save timestamp of the incident, there was a > entry where the POST response length was decreased by 21 bytes. This is the > difference between the length of the messages: > > Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is appreciated. > > You did not change the page content, not saved! > > I think that was the log entry of the problem incident. That was as far > as I got in debugging the problem. It appears Moin is saying it received no > changes for the problem POST. I suspected a bug in IE6, possibly related to > a cut and paste operation into the textarea -- that hunch was only based on > googling and finding very obscure references. > However, I could not reproduce the problem. > > If you can reproduce the problem at will, that would be a great start. > > Roger Haase > > > > > > --- Bob Jackson wrote: > > > For several months now I have been experiencing a problem with loss of > > edits while using Moinmoin. It occurs when both the "Save Changes" > > and > > "Preview" buttons are used and the outcome is that things go back to > > the original page before the edit was started. In the case of > > previewing, nothing is previewed. > > > > This is a time sensitive phenomenon. It never occurs with quick > > edits, but by my estimate becomes a risk sometime after 5-10 minutes > > of editing. > > Basically I now make sure that I've cut to the clipboard any > > significant edits before saving or previewing to cover against losses. > > > > The server environment is: > > > > Centos 4.x server running apache 2.0.52-32.3.ent.centos4 Moinmoin > > 1.5.8 connecting via SSL > > > > The workstation environment is: > > > > Fedora Core 7 > > Firefox 2.0.0.6 > > > > However, this problem has persisted over several releases of Moinmoin, > > Fedora Core and Firefox. It also predates the use of SSL. It also > > occurs with users of Internet Explorer, although I do most of the > > editing on our wiki instances. > > > > I have searched the list archives repeatedly for clues and have found > > > > nothing that has helped. The cookie_lifetime is set for 12 hours, but > > in my preferences, I remember login info. The edit_locking parameter > > is set to "lock 120". Reverse DNS lockups work fine on my system and > > the problem occurs regardless of the the log_reverse_dns_lookups > > setting. > > > > Enabling MOIN_DEBUG in moin.cgi has not produced any helpful error > > messages, although it's possible I'm not looking in the right places. > > > > My hunch is that this is not really a Moinmoin problem and may be an > > Apache or network setting issue, but I don't know where to look or > > what diagnostic strategy to follow. Would really appreciate some > > clues to look for or some suggested strategies to follow. > > > > Thanks in advance. -- BobJ > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Bob Jackson > > Department of Sociology > > Duke University > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. > > Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! > FareChase. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. > Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de Fri Sep 14 17:07:43 2007 From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:07:43 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] default (aka. title) search to find more results... Message-ID: Hi, what is the default (i.e. title) search looking for ? Is it finding only substrings of wiki-page names, or is it also looking at any header text (that is, text between = ... = and == ...== and so on) ? Is there a way -- maybe some pragma or so -- to add additional (maybe hidden !?) keywords to a wiki page, so that the title search would find additionally those pages ? Thanks, Sebastian Haase From gmayes at vmware.com Fri Sep 14 17:11:48 2007 From: gmayes at vmware.com (Geoff Mayes) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 14:11:48 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] PageList Macro rarely works for subpages Message-ID: <040EC1DE5CE40647A1E7BEECD85F62CB0D859A05@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> Sorry for the extra message. I figured out when the regex works and when it doesn't. This PageList: [[PageList(regex:^Performance/Automation.*)]] displays all subpages of Performance/Automation only after modifying some part of a wiki page that uses this PageList and then clicking "Preview" or "Save". The PageList no longer works on the page after navigating to other wiki pages, coming back to the original page using the PageList, and then clicking the "Article" tab and/or refreshing the page. What could be going on during the "Preview" or "Submit" that isn't during a plain, old view? > -----Original Message----- > From: Geoff Mayes > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:45 PM > To: Lista Moin-Wiki > Subject: PageList Macro rarely works for subpages > > Hi, > > I have 56 pages organized under mysite/Performance/Automation. I want to > use the PageList macro to display these pages under > /Performance/Automation on different pages scattered throughout the wiki, > but I can't figure out how to do this. This is on Moin 1.5.6, fastcgi, > Apache 2.2.3, RHEL5. > > These PageList syntaces work all the time: > > [[PageList(title:Performance)]] > [[PageList(title:Performance Automation)]] > [[PageList(title:Performance title:Automation)]] > [[PageList(regex:^Performance.*)]] > > These rarely and randomly, and are exactly what I'm after: > > [[PageList(regex:^Performance/Automation/.*)]] > [[PageList(regex:^Performance/Automation.*)]] > > These never work (I've tried escaping the backslashes too): > > [[PageList(title:Performance/Automation)]] > [[PageList(title:Performance/Automation/)]] > > > Anyone know why the randomly appearing ones are random (cache, fastcgi, > etc?)? Anyone know where I can look to figure out what's going on? > Anyone know of a better macro or a better way to list pages of a subpage? > > Thanks for any help, > > Geoff From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 18:24:19 2007 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:24:19 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] default (aka. title) search to find more results... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4459f0d30709141524l68a233d9ycec28b7e6150741@mail.gmail.com> Hi Sebastian. [...] > Is there a way -- maybe some pragma or so -- to add additional (maybe > hidden !?) keywords to a wiki page, so that the title search would > find additionally those pages ? Not that I am aware of... Regards. -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. http://simplementewiki.org http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/ From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 18:26:09 2007 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:26:09 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] default (aka. title) search to find more results... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4459f0d30709141526t16c2815cwa023c3958295e430@mail.gmail.com> Hello Sebastian. Sorry, pressed send too quickly. More follows... [...] > Is there a way -- maybe some pragma or so -- to add additional (maybe > hidden !?) keywords to a wiki page, so that the title search would > find additionally those pages ? Not that I am aware of... right now. But the work in progress about MetaData will surely yield some cool fruits in this area. Regards. -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. http://simplementewiki.org http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/ From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Fri Sep 14 21:56:56 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 19:56:56 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] PageList Macro rarely works for subpages In-Reply-To: <040EC1DE5CE40647A1E7BEECD85F62CB0D8599C5@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> References: <375457.38039.qm@web56501.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <040EC1DE5CE40647A1E7BEECD85F62CB0D8599C5@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> Message-ID: <3130eec50709141856p3073115n83c7331b4a14cee6@mail.gmail.com> On 9/14/07, Geoff Mayes wrote: > Anyone > know of a better macro or a better way to list pages of a subpage? Take a lok at this page: http://Gnarlodious.com/Computer == Page Tree == [[Navitree(selectedtree,Computer,3)]] -- Gnarlie From Sungbok664 at agw.demon.co.uk Sun Sep 16 00:32:32 2007 From: Sungbok664 at agw.demon.co.uk (Sungbok cookson) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:32:32 -1200 Subject: [Moin-user] eesolpmi Message-ID: <000a01c7f81a$9953c2b0$33ad797c@win06v3> http://ckcandis.com/ Yo yo yo moin-user The added width to your penis fills and presses her from side to side to give your partner the most exhilarating sensations Sungbok cookson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From blondie at q1.net Mon Sep 17 23:52:38 2007 From: blondie at q1.net (=?Windows-1251?B?zeDrb+Nv4u7lIO/rYe3o8O7iYe3o5Q==?=) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:52:38 +0400 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?SOVw5efo5OXt8u375SBj8nDz6vLzcPs=?= Message-ID: <092954773.20070420229244@Dynamic-IP-1908434141.cable.net.co> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Tue Sep 18 14:11:05 2007 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 11:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Persistent loss of edits In-Reply-To: <5c39e1ca0709141405q1b1d5482gbc8df989ba431fa5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <217907.85000.qm@web36202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Assuming there really is a missing edits bug, a guess is that it is a client-side problem rather than server-side. To be a server-side bug, either Moin or Apache would somehow have to maintain the state of the old text-area and substitute the old copy for the incoming new copy. Well, Moin has an old copy on disk but it is hard to believe Moin would sometimes become confused and substitute the disk copy for the incoming textarea. On the other hand, the user's browser maintains an old copy of the textarea contents. The old contents could be retrieved by clicking a Reset button (but there isn't any Reset button on the wiki edit form) or a javascript function calling the form or textarea element reset function. So a thought is the bug may be in some bit of javascript code on the client side. It intercepts the Submit button click, resets the textarea, and submits the form? The FCK Editor has some very complex javascript code and there are calls to the reset function in wordWindow.js and controlWindow.js. But where are these called from? I am going to try turning off the GUI editor to see if that eliminates the problem. The only options for turning it off that I see are to add the following to wikiconfig.py: editor_default = 'text' editor_ui = 'text' editor_force = True My only user that has reported the problem is off again and it may be a long time before she returns to edit the wiki. Roger Haase --- Rick Vanderveer wrote: > I'm the other person who has reported this problem. I haven't gone > thru all > the diagnosis that Roger has, but I can say that this problem is > consistent > for every person who uses IE to edit the wiki. It doesn't matter if > it's > IE6 or IE7. Firefox is never a problem. (But it's hard to get > people to > remember to use Firefox, and I can't force them because we have > several > internal pages that only work in IE. grrrrrr). > > The only thing special about my setup (not really special) is that > I'm using > domain authentication via mod_auth_sspi, running on Windows XP, with > FastCGI. I've also made some small screen.css tweaks to the 'modern' > theme, > but I can't imagine that would cause any problems either (I suspect > it's > something with the authentication, but I don't really know how to > effectively diagnose it). > > -Rick > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto: > > moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Roger Haase > > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 3:49 PM > > To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Persistent loss of edits > > > > I had a user with a similar problem in a thread titled "User Says > Page > > Edits Are Not Always Saved" in June of this year. > > > > This user had reported the problem off and on over the last two > years. > > In the most extreme case she reported having to make the same > editing > > change 4 or 5 times before it was saved. She is using IE 6 on > Windows/XP, > > the server is on a Fedora Core 6, was Core 4. Moin versions > probably varied > > from 1.3.x to 1.5.8 over the timeframe. > > > > The problem was not solved. The best documentation I was able to > collect > > was when she sent me a email stating the problem had just happened > and she > > was able to tell me the phrase she was trying to insert into the > page. > > > > Using the page info action, I found the server timestamp of the > sucessful > > operation and was able to then review the Apache log for prior > > transactions. Because the user did not trust that her changes were > going to > > be saved, she was in the habit of making a small change, saving the > page, > > edit, save, edit, etc. > > > > By looking at the moin page info and the apache log, I was able to > > determine which POST entries in the Apache log related to > successful > > updates. The increasing lengths of successive POST entries showed > her > > editing progress. > > > > Just prior to the successful save timestamp of the incident, there > was a > > entry where the POST response length was decreased by 21 bytes. > This is the > > difference between the length of the messages: > > > > Thank you for your changes. Your attention to detail is > appreciated. > > > > You did not change the page content, not saved! > > > > I think that was the log entry of the problem incident. That was > as far > > as I got in debugging the problem. It appears Moin is saying it > received no > > changes for the problem POST. I suspected a bug in IE6, possibly > related to > > a cut and paste operation into the textarea -- that hunch was only > based on > > googling and finding very obscure references. > > However, I could not reproduce the problem. > > > > If you can reproduce the problem at will, that would be a great > start. > > > > Roger Haase > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Bob Jackson wrote: > > > > > For several months now I have been experiencing a problem with > loss of > > > edits while using Moinmoin. It occurs when both the "Save > Changes" > > > and > > > "Preview" buttons are used and the outcome is that things go back > to > > > the original page before the edit was started. In the case of > > > previewing, nothing is previewed. > > > > > > This is a time sensitive phenomenon. It never occurs with quick > > > edits, but by my estimate becomes a risk sometime after 5-10 > minutes > > > of editing. > > > Basically I now make sure that I've cut to the clipboard any > > > significant edits before saving or previewing to cover against > losses. > > > > > > The server environment is: > > > > > > Centos 4.x server running apache 2.0.52-32.3.ent.centos4 Moinmoin > > > 1.5.8 connecting via SSL > > > > > > The workstation environment is: > > > > > > Fedora Core 7 > > > Firefox 2.0.0.6 > > > > > > However, this problem has persisted over several releases of > Moinmoin, > > > Fedora Core and Firefox. It also predates the use of SSL. It > also > > > occurs with users of Internet Explorer, although I do most of the > > > editing on our wiki instances. > > > > > > I have searched the list archives repeatedly for clues and have > found > > > > > > nothing that has helped. The cookie_lifetime is set for 12 > hours, but > > > in my preferences, I remember login info. The edit_locking > parameter > > > is set to "lock 120". Reverse DNS lockups work fine on my system > and > > > the problem occurs regardless of the the log_reverse_dns_lookups > > > setting. > > > > > > Enabling MOIN_DEBUG in moin.cgi has not produced any helpful > error > > > messages, although it's possible I'm not looking in the right > places. > > > > > > My hunch is that this is not really a Moinmoin problem and may be > an > > > Apache or network setting issue, but I don't know where to look > or > > > what diagnostic strategy to follow. Would really appreciate some > > > clues to look for or some suggested strategies to follow. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. -- BobJ > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Bob Jackson > > > Department of Sociology > > > Duke University > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. > > > Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > > > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moin-user mailing list > > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Looking for a deal? 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Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/> _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From bobj at soc.duke.edu Thu Sep 20 01:59:44 2007 From: bobj at soc.duke.edu (Bob Jackson) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 01:59:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Persistent loss of edits Message-ID: Roger Haase observed: > Assuming there really is a missing edits bug, a guess is that it is a > client-side problem rather than server-side. To be a server-side bug, > either Moin or Apache would somehow have to maintain the state of the > old text-area and substitute the old copy for the incoming new copy. > Well, Moin has an old copy on disk but it is hard to believe Moin would > sometimes become confused and substitute the disk copy for the incoming > textarea. > On the other hand, the user's browser maintains an old copy of the > textarea contents. The old contents could be retrieved by clicking a > Reset button (but there isn't any Reset button on the wiki edit form) > or a javascript function calling the form or textarea element reset > function. > So a thought is the bug may be in some bit of javascript code on the > client side. It intercepts the Submit button click, resets the > textarea, and submits the form? The FCK Editor has some very complex > javascript code and there are calls to the reset function in > wordWindow.js and controlWindow.js. But where are these called from? > I am going to try turning off the GUI editor to see if that eliminates > the problem. The only options for turning it off that I see are to add > the following to wikiconfig.py: > editor_default = 'text' > editor_ui = 'text' > editor_force = True > My only user that has reported the problem is off again and it may be a > long time before she returns to edit the wiki. > Roger Haase It is relevant to note that I do all of my editing in Moin with the text editor and the loss of edits problem has occurred consistently. I do not use the FCKeditor. The problem occurs regularly for me simply by waiting approximately 5 or more minutes between a preview or save changes operation. If I keep previewing every 3-4 minutes during a long edit, that seems to preserve the content. Clearly something times out on me otherwise. Interestingly it is noted in http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FCKeditor: "The general rule I would use is... if the problem occurs without leaving the editor, then it is an FCKeditor issue. If the problem involves entering or leaving the editor (saving, previewing, cancelling, etc.), or displays incorrectly when you first enter the GUI editor, it may be a MoinMoin issue." ______________________________________________________ Bob Jackson Department of Sociology Duke University From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 15:51:27 2007 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 12:51:27 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Persistent loss of edits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <194308.4581.qm@web36204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Bob Jackson wrote: > > It is relevant to note that I do all of my editing in Moin with the > text > editor and the loss of edits problem has occurred consistently. I do > not > use the FCKeditor. > > The problem occurs regularly for me simply by waiting approximately 5 > or > more minutes between a preview or save changes operation. If I keep > previewing every 3-4 minutes during a long edit, that seems to > preserve > the content. Clearly something times out on me otherwise. > > Interestingly it is noted in > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FCKeditor: > > "The general rule I would use is... if the problem occurs without > leaving > the editor, then it is an FCKeditor issue. If the problem involves > entering or leaving the editor (saving, previewing, cancelling, > etc.), or > displays incorrectly when you first enter the GUI editor, it may be a > > MoinMoin issue." > My user who experienced edit losses also uses the text editor. I have no idea where the bug is (I personally have never noticed the loss of edits), but a thought is it is somewhere in the Javascript -- maybe overlapping global names, event handlers that somehow interfere with each other, something else? Whatever it is, some weird event may be causing a form or element reset when the form is submitted. The original thought was that if I could prevent all of the GUI related Javascript from loading the problem might go away. However, unless I did something else wrong, forcing use of only the text editor doesn't prevent all the GUI related Javascript from loading. With the Firefox "Web Developer" addon extension installed, doing a Tools>Web Developer>Information>View Javascript shows that there are some GUI related functions loaded even when only the text editor is being used. That your frequent use of preview seems to prevent the problem may be a clue. Are you using the default value for edit_locking? The default is "warn 10" and there is a javascript timer event that changes a message on the editor page. But that code looks pretty harmless. If you leave an edit hanging for 5 minutes before a submit, about how consistent is the edit loss failure (in percent)? Roger Haase ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From bigo at gci.net Thu Sep 20 16:53:04 2007 From: bigo at gci.net (=?Windows-1251?B?Q+Vw42Xp?=) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:53:04 +0300 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?Q+jx8mXs4CDz73Dg4uvl7ffl8eru6SDu8vfl?= =?windows-1251?b?8u3u8fLo?= Message-ID: <556074283.20070920344423@190-49-61-73.speedy.com.ar> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This box includes > the > following text and links "For more help, see HelpOnEditing > or SyntaxReference > ." In my > installation, the domain for those two links is incorrect and therefore > not > working. I can't figure out how to correct this problem. Any help > appreciated. > > > Regards, > > Dave Hodgman > > > LinkMe Pty Ltd > > > > > Ground Floor, 615 Dandenong Rd > > > Armadale VIC 3143 > > > mobile > > 0412 322 847 > > > direct > > 03 8508 9156 > > > main > > 03 8508 9111 > > > fax > > 03 8508 9191 > > -- Boris Callens FedEx From Petr.Majtan at t-mobile.cz Fri Sep 21 04:15:51 2007 From: Petr.Majtan at t-mobile.cz (=?iso-8859-2?Q?=22Majt=E1=F2=2C_Petr=22?=) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:15:51 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Broken HelpOnEditing link In-Reply-To: <20070921000105.DE71D791EE@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Message-ID: <0CD3E5F0AEBA3F41B22D8FC3D86A86B50362DBAD@SRVRE01.rdm.cz> Hi Dave, I had same problem, today i found this incorrect link in data\cache\i18n\[en|cs] files. I try to remove these cache files and it seem to be working fine now. (moin regenerated it) -- Citac ________________________________ From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Dave Hodgman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:01 AM To: Moin-User Subject: [Moin-user] Broken HelpOnEditing link Hi all, As you know, when you are editing a page in text mode, a box providing some basic syntax help is shown at the bottom of the page. This box includes the following text and links "For more help, see HelpOnEditing or SyntaxReference ." In my installation, the domain for those two links is incorrect and therefore not working. I can't figure out how to correct this problem. Any help appreciated. 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URL: From fdrake at gmail.com Fri Sep 21 22:24:26 2007 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 22:24:26 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] AJAX editor preview function? Message-ID: <9cee7ab80709211924m7c6711a1v4e8d8e3b421ed3a4@mail.gmail.com> Does anyone know of an AJAX preview function for MoinMoin? I'd really like to see something like that, and thought I'd check for existing implementations. My own time availability is a little on the low side these days. :-( -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Sat Sep 22 14:58:57 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:58:57 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing the search result background Message-ID: <20070922205857.290b8015.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Hi I'm trying to find out where I can change the colour of the search result highlighting in a theme. I mean now when I search for say "bash" I get the page up with a blue background for all the words bash in the page. It doesn't fit in my theme, but I have problems finding out where to change it. Thanks in advance Preben From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Sat Sep 22 15:11:07 2007 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Changing the search result background In-Reply-To: <20070922205857.290b8015.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Message-ID: <842382.47646.qm@web36211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Preben Randhol wrote: > Hi > > I'm trying to find out where I can change the colour of the search > result highlighting in a theme. > > I mean now when I search for say "bash" I get the page up with a blue > background for all the words bash in the page. It doesn't fit in my > theme, but I have problems finding out where to change it. > > Thanks in advance > > Preben > I think you want to override this: strong.highlight { background-color: #CCE0FF; padding: 1pt; } ... which is defined in several themes within common.css. If you are a Firefox user and have the Web Developer addon installed, a ctrl-shift-Y will show the css attributes of elements as you run the mouse over them. Roger Haase ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From tw-public at gmx.de Sun Sep 23 17:56:14 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 23:56:14 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] AJAX editor preview function? In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80709211924m7c6711a1v4e8d8e3b421ed3a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cee7ab80709211924m7c6711a1v4e8d8e3b421ed3a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1190584574.11513.9.camel@black> Hi Fred, > Does anyone know of an AJAX preview function for MoinMoin? There is no such thing in the core code and AFAIK also no extension doing something with AJAX. > My own time availability is a little on the low side these days. :-( Well, our current development focus is to release 1.6 this year and after that 1.7 (with quite some new code from SOC 2007) next year. There will be lots of changes requiring lots of work, but, at least as far as I am concerned, new stuff with AJAX will be rather unlikely as I will work most of the time improving and cleaning up the core code of moin (support for mimetype items, better storage backend, bugfixes, etc.). The cleanup and refactoring work will also have to include the Page*Editor code (which depends on the merge of the storage branch, because the first step of the cleanup already happened there). Cheers, Thomas From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Sun Sep 23 18:20:11 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:20:11 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Could one use Plone's GUI editor in stead of the default Message-ID: <20070924002011.838ebf20.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Hi I find the default GUI editor very cumbersome. Personally I use text version or gvim. However, others prefer GUI, but they are always complaining about all the quirks of the current editor. So after watching some plone videos, I was thinking that Plone is Python and they *look* to have a nice editor, could this benifit moinmoin? Thanks in advance Preben From dhodgman at linkme.com.au Sun Sep 23 18:56:42 2007 From: dhodgman at linkme.com.au (Dave Hodgman) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:56:42 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Broken HelpOnEditing link In-Reply-To: <0CD3E5F0AEBA3F41B22D8FC3D86A86B50362DBAD@SRVRE01.rdm.cz> Message-ID: <20070923225641.78B6F791DA@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Bingo! You got it in one. Many thanks Petr! _____ From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of "Majt?n, Petr" Sent: Friday, 21 September 2007 6:16 PM To: Moin-User Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Broken HelpOnEditing link Hi Dave, I had same problem, today i found this incorrect link in data\cache\i18n\[en|cs] files. I try to remove these cache files and it seem to be working fine now. (moin regenerated it) -- Citac _____ From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Dave Hodgman Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 2:01 AM To: Moin-User Subject: [Moin-user] Broken HelpOnEditing link Hi all, As you know, when you are editing a page in text mode, a box providing some basic syntax help is shown at the bottom of the page. This box includes the following text and links "For more help, see HelpOnEditing or SyntaxReference ." In my installation, the domain for those two links is incorrect and therefore not working. I can't figure out how to correct this problem. Any help appreciated. Regards, Dave Hodgman LinkMe Pty Ltd Ground Floor, 615 Dandenong Rd Armadale VIC 3143 mobile 0412 322 847 direct 03 8508 9156 main 03 8508 9111 fax 03 8508 9191 _____ ---------- Disclaimer ---------- K tomuto e-mailu je p?ipojeno prohl??en?, jeho? pln? zn?n? je dostupn? na adrese http://www.t-mobile.cz/disclaimer A disclaimer is attached to this e-mail, the full version of which is available at http://www.t-mobile.cz/disclaimer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: image001.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3354 bytes Desc: not available URL: From fdrake at gmail.com Sun Sep 23 21:18:52 2007 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:18:52 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] AJAX editor preview function? In-Reply-To: <1190584574.11513.9.camel@black> References: <9cee7ab80709211924m7c6711a1v4e8d8e3b421ed3a4@mail.gmail.com> <1190584574.11513.9.camel@black> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80709231818t4b0755d5k306105bdeb579201@mail.gmail.com> On 9/23/07, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > There is no such thing in the core code and AFAIK also no extension > doing something with AJAX. The things on your current plan certainly sound more important. Perhaps I'll try my hand at adding some AJAX edit/preview support in the next few months. I'll report here if I come up with anything interesting. I presume I should use the latest version of the code from Mercurial. (Never used that one before; will have to read up on it.) -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller From Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de Mon Sep 24 05:07:09 2007 From: Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de (Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:07:09 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] LDAP authentication Message-ID: Hello, we are using MoinMoin now for many years and have a stable, well maintained 1.5.8 installation. Since some month we also have an openldap server running. Some sevices like apache, linux boxes and others are using ldap now. Next step is MoinMoin and ldap. I searched http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ for ldap and found a lot of information, but no step-by-step guide. My questions would be: * does MoinMoin has LDAP support included? Which resources do I need? * which settings has to be done? Which files has to be edited? * Can someone provide detailed information? If we succeed I would spend some time on collecting information and writing some nice doc for the community. 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URL: From p.f.moore at gmail.com Mon Sep 24 05:33:53 2007 From: p.f.moore at gmail.com (Paul Moore) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:33:53 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Could one use Plone's GUI editor in stead of the default In-Reply-To: <20070924002011.838ebf20.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> References: <20070924002011.838ebf20.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Message-ID: <79990c6b0709240233g559bdfafo5c38fa07a353a366@mail.gmail.com> On 23/09/2007, Preben Randhol wrote: > So after watching some plone videos, I was thinking that Plone is > Python and they *look* to have a nice editor, could this benifit > moinmoin? I think the biggest issue is likely to be to translate the output (presumably HTML) of the editor back into Wiki markup. I guess there will be code in MoinMoin to do this for the standard FCKeditor, I don't know what would be involved in doing the same for another editor. Regards, Paul. From sean at dague.net Mon Sep 24 07:53:55 2007 From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:53:55 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? Message-ID: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> The spam bots have gotten quite good at creating accounts for moin systems, and recently have seemed to be about a day ahead of the anti spam system. I'm curious if anyone has put together a captcha system for moin to reduce the number of bots generating accounts in the first place? Thanks, -Sean -- __________________________________________________________________ Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From skip at pobox.com Mon Sep 24 09:11:43 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> References: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> Message-ID: <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> Sean> The spam bots have gotten quite good at creating accounts for moin Sean> systems, and recently have seemed to be about a day ahead of the Sean> anti spam system. I'm curious if anyone has put together a Sean> captcha system for moin to reduce the number of bots generating Sean> accounts in the first place? I'm not aware of anything. On a related topic though, Martin v. Loewis implemented a simple scheme for Python's Roundup bug tracker where edits were rejected if the time between when the userid was created and it was used to create a page was too small (I think the threshold was four seconds or something on that order). That might be something you could implement easily for Moin. Skip From tom at Toms.NET Mon Sep 24 10:16:59 2007 From: tom at Toms.NET (Thomas Arthur Oehser) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:16:59 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20070924141659.GC14880@Toms.NET> If not a captcha, is there at least something that does an email verification, requiring entry of an email address, sending a mail with a cookie to that address, and requiring the address respond with the cookie? -Tom On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 08:11:43AM -0500, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Sean> The spam bots have gotten quite good at creating accounts for moin > Sean> systems, and recently have seemed to be about a day ahead of the > Sean> anti spam system. I'm curious if anyone has put together a > Sean> captcha system for moin to reduce the number of bots generating > Sean> accounts in the first place? > > I'm not aware of anything. On a related topic though, Martin v. Loewis > implemented a simple scheme for Python's Roundup bug tracker where edits > were rejected if the time between when the userid was created and it was > used to create a page was too small (I think the threshold was four seconds > or something on that order). That might be something you could implement > easily for Moin. > > Skip > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -- May 4, 1970: Alison Krause, Jeffrey Miller, Sandra Scheuer, William Schroeder. From gmayes at vmware.com Mon Sep 24 13:56:58 2007 From: gmayes at vmware.com (Geoff Mayes) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:56:58 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] LDAP authentication In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <164EB932135FF34898B68CFCC38179F017AD60@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> Hi Mark, We've been using LDAP auth with Moin 1.5.6 for the past year with no problems (except for a strange IE6 issue where users sometimes have to log on twice). > * does MoinMoin has LDAP support included? Which resources do I need? Yes, support is included. What you need: (1) python-ldap installed on your Moin box; (2) knowledge of your LDAP server (bind user, bind password, how to bind, base dn, etc) > * which settings has to be done? Which files has to be edited? Just edit wikiconfig.py. This link should give you all the info you need to get wikiconfig.py configured and LDAP auth working on Moin: http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAuthentication/LDAP > * Can someone provide detailed information? Here's the LDAP stuff from our wikiconfig.py: ==================================== from MoinMoin import auth auth = [auth.ldap_login, auth.moin_cookie] import ldap ldap_uri = 'ldaps://ldap.oursite.com' # ldap / active directory server URI ldap_binddn = 'bind_username_goes_here' ldap_bindpw = 'bind_password_goes_here' ldap_base = 'dc=vmware,dc=com' # base DN we use for searching ldap_scope = ldap.SCOPE_SUBTREE # scope of the search we do ldap_email_attribute = 'mail' # ldap attribute we get the email address from ldap_surname_attribute = 'sn' ldap_givenname_attribute = 'givenName' ldap_aliasname_attribute = 'displayName' ldap_coding = 'utf-8' # coding used for ldap queries and result values ldap_timeout = 10 # how long we wait for the ldap server [s] ldap_verbose = True # if True, put lots of LDAP debug info into the log cookie_lifetime = 336 # 14 days after last access ldap login is required again user_autocreate = True ==================================== I hope this is enough info to get it working for you. As you can see, there's not much to it! :) -Geoff > -----Original Message----- > From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user- > bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 2:07 AM > To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Moin-user] LDAP authentication > > > Hello, > > we are using MoinMoin now for many years and have a stable, well > maintained 1.5.8 installation. > > Since some month we also have an openldap server running. > Some sevices like apache, linux boxes and others are using ldap now. > Next step is MoinMoin and ldap. > > I searched http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ for ldap and found a lot of > information, but no step-by-step guide. > > My questions would be: > * does MoinMoin has LDAP support included? Which resources do I need? > * which settings has to be done? Which files has to be edited? > * Can someone provide detailed information? > > If we succeed I would spend some time on collecting information and > writing some nice doc for the community. > > Mit freundlichen Gr??en | Best regards, > > Mark Ziegler > > Softwareentwicklung | Software development > > MICHAEL WEINIG AG > Weinigstrasse 2/4. 97941 Tauberbischofsheim. Deutschland | Germany > Phone +49 (0) 9341 86-1726 . Fax +49 (0) 9341 86-1702 > mark.ziegler at weinig.de . http://www.weinig.com > > Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Thomas Bach > Vorstand: Rainer Hundsd?rfer (Vorsitzender), Dr. Dieter Japs, Karl Wachter > Sitz Tauberbischofsheim , Registergericht Mannheim HRB 560227 > UST / ID-Nr. DE 146587898 > From Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de Tue Sep 25 02:39:51 2007 From: Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de (Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:39:51 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Antwort: Re: LDAP authentication In-Reply-To: <164EB932135FF34898B68CFCC38179F017AD60@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> Message-ID: Hello, http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAuthentication/LDAP is not reachable. Yesterday evening it was. Can somebody confirm? What is the difference between http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/ and http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/? Mit freundlichen Gr??en | Best regards, Mark Ziegler Softwareentwicklung | Software development MICHAEL WEINIG AG Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Thomas Bach Vorstand: Rainer Hundsd?rfer (Vorsitzender), Dr. Dieter Japs, Karl Wachter Sitz Tauberbischofsheim , Registergericht Mannheim HRB 560227 UST / ID-Nr. DE 146587898 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The spam bots are getting through all the counter measures in place right now, and if there isn't a work around I'll have to dump moin for something else, as I really can't be deleting spam every morning. -Sean -- __________________________________________________________________ Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: Digital signature URL: From Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de Tue Sep 25 08:01:37 2007 From: Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de (Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:01:37 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Antwort: Re: LDAP authentication In-Reply-To: <164EB932135FF34898B68CFCC38179F017AD60@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> Message-ID: Hello, I added the following lines to my wikiconfig.py: from MoinMoin.auth import ldap_login from MoinMoin.auth import moin_cookie auth = [ldap_login, moin_cookie] import ldap ldap_uri = 'ldap://192.168.0.4' ldap_binddn = 'cn=admin,dc=eko,dc=weinig' ldap_bindpw = 'xxx' ldap_base = 'dc=eko,dc=weinig' # ldap_scope ldap_email_attribute = 'mail' ldap_surname_attribute = 'sn' ldap_givenname_attribute = 'givenName' ldap_aliasname_attribute = 'sn' ldap_config = 'utf-8' ldap_timeout = 10 ldap_verbose = True cookie_lifetime = 336 user_autocreate = True Whenever I try to login, you queries are sent to the server. I increased the loglevel to 255 which gives me really a lot of output :-) But nothing is comin' in. Our ldap server is working and some other services are using it. ldapsearch is working on the wiki server. What do I miss? Any modules? How does MoinMoin find the python-ldap code? Are there some pathes for it? OS is opensuse 10.1 openldap 2.3.19 python-ldap 2.0.11 Mit freundlichen Gr??en | Best regards, Mark Ziegler Softwareentwicklung | Software development MICHAEL WEINIG AG Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Dr. Thomas Bach Vorstand: Rainer Hundsd?rfer (Vorsitzender), Dr. Dieter Japs, Karl Wachter Sitz Tauberbischofsheim , Registergericht Mannheim HRB 560227 UST / ID-Nr. DE 146587898 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skip at pobox.com Tue Sep 25 13:00:08 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:00:08 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <20070925114455.GH4037@dague.net> References: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20070924141659.GC14880@Toms.NET> <20070925114455.GH4037@dague.net> Message-ID: <18169.16024.748398.170486@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> If not a captcha, is there at least something that does an email >> verification... Sean> Yeh, any help on this one would be great. The spam bots are Sean> getting through all the counter measures in place right now... There was a Summer of Code project in the area of spam detection. I don't know its current status. I wrote a spam filter for SpamBayes this summer as well which processes requests via XML-RPC. You could run that server (it's in the recent 1.1a4 distribution) and modify Moin's page creation code to refer submissions to that server before accepting them. Anything that scores as ham or unsure should be accepted. Spam scores should cause rejection. Skip From tom at Toms.NET Tue Sep 25 13:14:53 2007 From: tom at Toms.NET (Thomas Arthur Oehser) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:14:53 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <18169.16024.748398.170486@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20070924141659.GC14880@Toms.NET> <20070925114455.GH4037@dague.net> <18169.16024.748398.170486@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <20070925171453.GE14880@Toms.NET> > >> If not a captcha, is there at least something that does an email > >> verification... > > Sean> Yeh, any help on this one would be great. The spam bots are > Sean> getting through all the counter measures in place right now... > > There was a Summer of Code project in the area of spam detection. I don't > know its current status. I wrote a spam filter for SpamBayes this summer as I think there is some misunderstanding about what is being requesed. To me, spam prevention is trivial, as non-registered-users cannot edit. Preventing bots from registering in the first place is the goal. This problem is totally different, and not addressible by bayesian filtering or other spam-filtering approaches. There are 2 approaches I would like (I want both, but either would help...) (1) Require a process by which "registering" puts a user into "awaiting approval" status, sends them an email with some kind of GUID cookie, and upon the user answering the email, moves them into "real" status. (2) Require a user to pass some "captcha" type test, such as recognizing text within a complex distorted visual image, as part of registration. I want a registered user to (1) have a real, (and unique!) email address, and, (2) be a human being, not a computer program. If there are real human beings with unique email addresses who are willing to accept the overhead of these checks and still want to spam, for me, the existing content filter is adequate, and if it weren't, any spam reduction for those humans would be a much lower priority anyway than keeping the bots from registering, see (1) and (2)... -Thanks. From edwards at cs.vt.edu Tue Sep 25 13:31:23 2007 From: edwards at cs.vt.edu (Stephen Edwards) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:31:23 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <20070925171453.GE14880@Toms.NET> References: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20070924141659.GC14880@Toms.NET> <20070925114455.GH4037@dague.net> <18169.16024.748398.170486@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20070925171453.GE14880@Toms.NET> Message-ID: <46F945EB.4030403@cs.vt.edu> Thomas Arthur Oehser wrote: > There are 2 approaches I would like (I want both, but either would help...) > > (1) Require a process by which "registering" puts a user into "awaiting > approval" status, sends them an email with some kind of GUID cookie, > and upon the user answering the email, moves them into "real" status. [...] > I want a registered user to (1) have a real, (and unique!) email > address, and, (2) be a human being, not a computer program. I just applied the following mod to my wiki. It took a bit of fiddling to get it to work smoothly with 1.5.8, but it does what you ask: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RussellStuart/EmailActivation New accounts are flagged as "disabled" until they are activated, typically by clicking on a link in an activation e-mail message sent out when the user first creates the account. It does require a valid e-mail address if you let users self-authenticate (they can't activate themselves unless they get the e-mail message). Alternatively, it can send the e-mail messages to a "moderator" address of your choosing, who then has to decide to manually allow/disallow account enabling for every new account. It is fairly easy to set up so that you can use one approach for some accounts (say all e-mail to your domain) but a moderator for others. I just turned it on for self-authentication for all new accounts, which seems like it would eliminate most (if not all) of the spambot traffic. For a summary of what I had to tweak, see my comments at the end of the plugin's wiki page. -- Steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Virginia Tech, CS Dept. Web-CAT: Web-based Center for Software Testing 2050 Torgersen Hall (0106) Automatic grading using student-written tests Blacksburg, VA 24061 USA http://web-cat.sourceforge.net/ (540)-231-5723 http://people.cs.vt.edu/~edwards/ From chai_kennyah at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 14:50:38 2007 From: chai_kennyah at gmail.com (Seminar-ua) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:50:38 +0300 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?8ejx8uXs7eD/IPDg4e7y4CDxIOrr6OXt8u7s?= Message-ID: <724c01c7ffbe$1c328310$fcbcddea@chai_kennyah> ??????? > CRM - ????????? ?????? ? ???????? > > 3 ???????, ?. ???? > > (044) 2334669 , 2379OO5 CRM- ???, ?????? ?????, ????????? ??????????? ? ????????? ???????? ?????? ? ?????????? ????????. 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CRM. - ???????????? ?????????? ????. - ?????? ????????. - ????????? ????????. - ????????? ?????. - ??????? ???????. - ?????????? ????? - ?????????? ??????. ??????? ????????? ???????????????: - ???????? ??????-???????????? ??????????; - ?????????? ? ????????? ???????????? ?? ?????? ????????. ??????? ? ????????: 630.00 ???. - ?? ?????? ?????????. ??? ??????? ? ???????? ????????? ?????? ? 5% ? 7% ??????????????. ? ????????? ??????: ?????????????-???????????????? ????????????, ??????? ??????????, ????-?????, ???? ? ?????????, ?????????? ???????? ? ????? ???????? ? ????????. ????????? ????????: 9.30 ? 17.00. ??????? 13.00-14.00. ??????????? ? 9.00 ? ?????. ??????????? ?? ????????: (044) 233 46 69 , 237 9O O5 From dhodgman at linkme.com.au Tue Sep 25 19:04:04 2007 From: dhodgman at linkme.com.au (Dave Hodgman) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:04:04 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Properties not appearing in the Macro Properties dialog Message-ID: <20070925230404.8083C792C0@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Hi all, I've just installed Moin and everything is going pretty well however box on the right side of the Macro Properties dialog is always empty regardless of which macro I select. I notice the same is happening in the sandbox on the moin home site. What is meant to appear here? A list of properties, help, or something else? And is there some known reason why it is not appearing? TIA, Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gerald.gutierrez at gmail.com Tue Sep 25 20:33:22 2007 From: gerald.gutierrez at gmail.com (Gerald Gutierrez) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 17:33:22 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin on OSX fails w/ mod_python, works with CGI? Message-ID: <9E1BCD7D-7116-488B-884A-B8F3FF8CE431@gmail.com> Hi folks, I'm trying to get Moin working with mod_python on my OSX laptop. Already works with CGI. Configuration as follows: - OSX 1.4.10 - apache2, mod_python25 (v3.3.1), python25 (v2.5.1) (all installed via macports) - moin 1.5.8 Followed instructions on moin website and have the CGI version working. Can edit, view, etc. However, as soon as I switch over to mod_python, it fails with the following error: ------------------ UnboundLocalError local variable 'File' referenced before assignment /opt/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/MoinMoin/util/filesys.py in realPathCase (path='/var/lib/moin/redstar/underlay/pages/FrontPage') 1. 169 from Carbon import File 2. 170 return File.FSRef(path).as_pathname() 3. 171 except (ImportError, File.Error): 4. 172 return None 5. 173 * builtin ImportError = * File undefined ------------------ So, it seems File wasn't imported properly. BUT, if I try to do "from Carbon import File" from Python on the command line, it works fine. Carbon is a part of the python25 install, so I don't think there are any configuration changes needed. Also don't think that it could be a problem with it going to the default OSX's Python 2.3.5 install either since mod_python25 should reference the correct python version. But just in case, I also verified that the default python install also has Carbon and is working fine. Any ideas? Gerald. From dhodgman at linkme.com.au Tue Sep 25 21:59:51 2007 From: dhodgman at linkme.com.au (Dave Hodgman) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 11:59:51 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with the TWikiDraw edit URL Message-ID: <20070926015951.42B017A780@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Hi all, I have a problem with editing drawings in child pages. If the page has a name such as "./moin.cgi/MySection/MyPage" and it contains a drawing, when I mouse over the border of the drawing in an attempt to invoke the editor, the URL that is associated with that click is something like: http://intranet/wikime/moin.cgi/MySection/MySection/MyPage?action=AttachFile &rename=MyDrawing.png&drawing=MyDrawing Note that the "MySection" portion is doubled up thus breaking the link. Is there something simple I can do to fix this or is it a bug in Moin or the drawing tool? TIA, Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ygingras at ygingras.net Tue Sep 25 21:29:24 2007 From: ygingras at ygingras.net (Yannick Gingras) Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:29:24 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] Creating a new user on moin 1.7 Message-ID: <87odfqz023.fsf@enceladus.ygingras.net> Hi, I have a `recent hg` clone of moin that I will refer to as 1.7. I installed it with python setup.py install and created a standalone wiki with cp -Rv /user/share/moin /tmp/foo cp /tmp/foo cp config/wikiconfig.py ./ cp /path/1.7/moin.py . # edit to have docs = "./htdocs" emacs moin.py python moin.py The wiki starts fine but I can't create new users. The [[UserPreferences]] macro on http://localhost:8080/UserPreferences is rendered as a self referencing link. There is absolutly no form rendered in that page. I know the doc from the development branch might not be accurate but should I be able to create new users with 1.7? Best regards, -- Yannick Gingras From tw-public at gmx.de Wed Sep 26 02:56:37 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:56:37 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <20070925114455.GH4037@dague.net> References: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20070924141659.GC14880@Toms.NET> <20070925114455.GH4037@dague.net> Message-ID: <1190789797.29055.21.camel@black> > Yeh, any help on this one would be great. The spam bots are getting > through all the counter measures in place right now, Maybe check if the counter measures really work, e.g. if the BadContent page gets regularly its automatic updates from MoinMaster. Also, if you encounter spam, add the patterns to MoinMaster:BadContent. > and if there isn't > a work around I'll have to dump moin for something else, as I really > can't be deleting spam every morning. Well, some notes about that: * if you run a wiki that is r/w for anybody, you will have to live with some amount of spam * if you have some community of users on your wiki, the other users can help you fighting the spammers (maybe tell them to do and show how to use revert action) * for superusers, there is despam action for mass reverting * if you just run the wiki for personal use or a very small number of people, you can configure your ACLs so that only some you or some EditorGroup can write to pages on your wiki (this will immediately stop all spam, but also all contributions from all other "unknown" users) * captchas can be a real annoyance for your users, especially for users with limited vision * we have plans for improving user registration and anti-spam measures, but there is also lots of other stuff to do. From tw-public at gmx.de Wed Sep 26 03:01:54 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:01:54 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with the TWikiDraw edit URL In-Reply-To: <20070926015951.42B017A780@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> References: <20070926015951.42B017A780@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Message-ID: <1190790114.29055.24.camel@black> > I have a problem with editing drawings in child pages. If the page > has a name such as ??/moin.cgi/MySection/MyPage? and it contains a > drawing, when I mouse over the border of the drawing in an attempt to > invoke the editor, the URL that is associated with that click is > something like: > > > > http://intranet/wikime/moin.cgi/MySection/MySection/MyPage?action=AttachFile&rename=MyDrawing.png&drawing=MyDrawing > > > > Note that the ?MySection? portion is doubled up thus breaking the > link. Is there something simple I can do to fix this or is it a bug > in Moin or the drawing tool? That's a bug. Please check if we already have a bug report for it on the mm wiki and if not, file one and give all details requested. > From ludwig at fh-worms.de Mon Sep 24 11:21:45 2007 From: ludwig at fh-worms.de (Christoph Ludwig) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:21:45 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] LDAP authentication In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070924152145.GA4467@castellio.local> Hi, On Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:07:09AM +0200, Mark.Ziegler at weinig.de wrote: > we are using MoinMoin now for many years and have a stable, well > maintained 1.5.8 installation. > > Since some month we also have an openldap server running. > Some sevices like apache, linux boxes and others are using ldap now. > Next step is MoinMoin and ldap. > > I searched http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ for ldap and found a lot of > information, but no step-by-step guide. > > My questions would be: > * does MoinMoin has LDAP support included? Which resources do I need? What exactly do you mean by "LDAP support"? MoinMoincomes with code to enable authentication against an LDAP - look in MoinMoin/auth.py for ldap_login(). For some reasons I additionally needed that MoinMoin could create new accounts in the LDAP and retrieve group members from the LDAP. I therefore patched our MoinMoin installation (1.5.7) to add these features. Much of this code was written as part of a 24 hours programming session after a transatlantic flight - so it will certainly need some polishing before I can release it to the public. But if there is interest, then I will do that. > * which settings has to be done? Which files has to be edited? If the existing code in MoinMoin/auth.py meets your needs, then all you need to edit is your farmconfig.py. > * Can someone provide detailed information? You activate the LDAP login with the lines from MoinMoin.auth import moin_cookie, ldap_login auth = [ldap_login, moin_cookie] in your configuration file. Of course, ldap_login also needs to know your LDAP server's URL, TLS keys and certificates etc. 'grep cfg.ldap_ MoinMoin/auth.py' gives the following list of available options: * ldap_verbose * ldap_coding * ldap_timeout * ldap_start_tls * ldap_tls_cacertdir * ldap_tls_cacertfile * ldap_tls_certfile * ldap_tls_keyfile * ldap_tls_require_cert * ldap_uri * ldap_binddn * ldap_bindpw * ldap_filter * ldap_base * ldap_scope, * ldap_email_attribute * ldap_aliasname_attribute * ldap_surname_attribute * ldap_givenname_attribute HTH, Regards Christoph -- FH Worms - University of Applied Sciences Fachbereich Informatik / Telekommunikation Erenburgerstr. 19, 67549 Worms, Germany From Alexander.Dietz at astro.cf.ac.uk Wed Sep 26 10:23:39 2007 From: Alexander.Dietz at astro.cf.ac.uk (Alexander Dietz) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:23:39 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Greek letters Message-ID: <9cf809a00709260723i6e2501c3pc19336876c945129@mail.gmail.com> Hi, is it possible to use greek letters within the MoinMoin wiki? Cheers Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 10:29:55 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 08:29:55 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Greek letters In-Reply-To: <9cf809a00709260723i6e2501c3pc19336876c945129@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cf809a00709260723i6e2501c3pc19336876c945129@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3130eec50709260729p607ce167j946b870a35244e9b@mail.gmail.com> > is it possible to use greek letters within the MoinMoin wiki? You just type them into the editing window like normal text. How to accomplish that is dependent on your computer. See this page for a better idea, although it does not show Greek specifically: http://moinmo.in/SpecialCharacters -- Gnarlie From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 11:02:03 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:02:03 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Control Page Creation Message-ID: <3130eec50709260802i399c774ci45ec3cff009fe0be@mail.gmail.com> Due to continuous spam attacks, I would ike to disable page creation for registered users. I want to make a page called "PageCreators", which lists usernames allowed to create pages. I have looked for specific instructions on how to set this up but found nothing. Is there a way? I have to admit I don't understand ACLs real well. -- Gnarlie From ludwig at fh-worms.de Wed Sep 26 12:37:15 2007 From: ludwig at fh-worms.de (Christoph Ludwig) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 18:37:15 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Control Page Creation In-Reply-To: <3130eec50709260802i399c774ci45ec3cff009fe0be@mail.gmail.com> References: <3130eec50709260802i399c774ci45ec3cff009fe0be@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070926163715.GM5696@castellio.local> Hi, On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 09:02:03AM -0600, Gnarlodious wrote: > Due to continuous spam attacks, I would ike to disable page creation > for registered users. I want to make a page called "PageCreators", > which lists usernames allowed to create pages. I have looked for > specific instructions on how to set this up but found nothing. Is > there a way? IIRC, you have to call this page PageCreatorsGroup - all group pages are identified by the suffix "-Group". You then can set your default ACL such that only members of this group have the right to create new pages. For example: acl_rights_before = u"AdministratorGroup:read,write,delete,revert,admin" acl_rights_default = u"+PageCreatorsGroup:create,delete Known:read,write,revert All:read" This examples assumes that * every page is readable by everyone, even non-registered users (All) * every registered user may modify existing pages (Known) * the members of the PageCreatorGroup may create and delete pages, in addition to other rights they may have (+PageCreatorGroup) * there is a group of users that has full access rights even if a page specific ACL would normally prohibit access (AdministratorGroup) HTH Christoph -- FH Worms - University of Applied Sciences Fachbereich Informatik / Telekommunikation Erenburgerstr. 19, 67549 Worms, Germany From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Wed Sep 26 14:56:34 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:56:34 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Greek letters In-Reply-To: <9cf809a00709260723i6e2501c3pc19336876c945129@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cf809a00709260723i6e2501c3pc19336876c945129@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070926205634.9d7c9a44.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:23:39 +0100 "Alexander Dietz" wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to use greek letters within the MoinMoin wiki? Yes. Use UTF-8 (Unicode) Preben From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Sep 26 16:00:19 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:00:19 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Control Page Creation In-Reply-To: <20070926163715.GM5696@castellio.local> References: <3130eec50709260802i399c774ci45ec3cff009fe0be@mail.gmail.com> <20070926163715.GM5696@castellio.local> Message-ID: <3130eec50709261300k10cd6403m54bd6b8f52043592@mail.gmail.com> On 9/26/07, Christoph Ludwig wrote: > acl_rights_default = u"+PageCreatorsGroup:create,delete > Known:read,write,revert All:read" OK, but reading this page: http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists I can't find the word "create" anywhere. This has caused me to wonder if page creation is even controllable. I was able to remove "write" from my default ACL for user "All". but this made existing pages uneditable to unregistered users. I just want to disallow page creation by unregistered users. Does that make sense? -- Gnarlie From carole.nantel at sympatico.ca Wed Sep 26 07:28:15 2007 From: carole.nantel at sympatico.ca (=?Windows-1251?B?Q1JN?=) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:28:15 +0300 Subject: [Moin-user] =?windows-1251?b?Q+hj8uXs7eD/IHBh4W/y4CBjIOrr6OXt8u7s?= Message-ID: <422655571.20070926138806@190-50-111-13.speedy.com.ar> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mail at heavy.ch Wed Sep 26 17:54:03 2007 From: mail at heavy.ch (mail at heavy.ch) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:54:03 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Control Page Creation In-Reply-To: <3130eec50709261300k10cd6403m54bd6b8f52043592@mail.gmail.com> References: <3130eec50709260802i399c774ci45ec3cff009fe0be@mail.gmail.com> <20070926163715.GM5696@castellio.local> <3130eec50709261300k10cd6403m54bd6b8f52043592@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1190843643.12082.6.camel@lestat.vampyre.home> > OK, but reading this page: > http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists > > I can't find the word "create" anywhere. This has caused me to wonder > if page creation is even controllable. for creating a page you need write access. * read - who may read a page * write - who may edit an create a page * delete - who may delete a page * revert - who may revert a page pack to an old revision * admin - who may change the "#acl" line on a page. * cya Marcel From dhodgman at linkme.com.au Thu Sep 27 03:11:35 2007 From: dhodgman at linkme.com.au (Dave Hodgman) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:11:35 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Is there a way to display SVG images inline within the wiki? Message-ID: <20070927071134.9C22779629@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Hi all, I've been going bananas trying to get my SVG objects to appear inline within my wiki pages. I've been trying the EmbedObject and svg macros, I've had a go at hacking the source, I've googled it until I'm blue in the face and I just cannot get it to work. Firefox insists on popping up the viewer selection dialog. Any help would be much appreciated. Dave. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ludwig at fh-worms.de Thu Sep 27 04:37:23 2007 From: ludwig at fh-worms.de (Christoph Ludwig) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:37:23 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Control Page Creation In-Reply-To: <3130eec50709261300k10cd6403m54bd6b8f52043592@mail.gmail.com> References: <3130eec50709260802i399c774ci45ec3cff009fe0be@mail.gmail.com> <20070926163715.GM5696@castellio.local> <3130eec50709261300k10cd6403m54bd6b8f52043592@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070927083722.GB6196@castellio.local> On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 02:00:19PM -0600, Gnarlodious wrote: > On 9/26/07, Christoph Ludwig wrote: > > > acl_rights_default = u"+PageCreatorsGroup:create,delete > > Known:read,write,revert All:read" > > OK, but reading this page: > http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists > > I can't find the word "create" anywhere. This has caused me to wonder > if page creation is even controllable. oops, you are right of course - I failed to doublecheck the permissions you can control with an ACL. Unless there is already a patch or an extension on the MoinMoin wiki (I did not look for it), then you need to code it yourself. I had a short look into the code; I'd try to * add if not request.user.may.create(self.page_name): request.write("%s
" % _("You are not allowed to create this page.")) else: # ... to the method MoinMoin.Page.Page.send_page(), within the if block that starts (in 1.5.7) if not page_exists and (not content_only or (content_only and send_missing_page)): * add 'create' to acl_rights_valid in your configuration. and see if that already does the trick. But please be aware: I did not test it at all. I am not very familiar with the MoinMoin code and architecture, so I may very well have missed some crucial point or some other, obvious solution to your problem! Regards Christoph -- FH Worms - University of Applied Sciences Fachbereich Informatik / Telekommunikation Erenburgerstr. 19, 67549 Worms, Germany From m.a.navid at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 04:49:14 2007 From: m.a.navid at gmail.com (moux) Date: 27 Sep 2007 01:49:14 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Do we like the same books? Message-ID: I just joined Shelfari to connect with other book lovers. Come see the books I love and see if we have any in common. Then pick my next book so I can keep on reading. Click below to join my group of friends on Shelfari! http://www.shelfari.com/Register.aspx?ActivityId=20094549&InvitationCode=006aeba1-899b-4791-81cb-2dfb75274087 moux Shelfari is a free site that lets you share book ratings and reviews with friends and meet people who have similar tastes in books. It also lets you build an online bookshelf, join book clubs, and get good book recommendations from friends. You should check it out. -------- You have received this email because moux (m.a.navid at gmail.com) directly invited you to join his/her community on Shelfari. It is against Shelfari's policies to invite people who you don't know directly. Follow this link (http://www.shelfari.com/actions/emailoptout.aspx?email=moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net&activityid=20094549) to prevent future invitations to this address. If you believe you do not know this person, you may view (http://www.shelfari.com/moux) his/her Shelfari page or report him/her in our feedback (http://www.shelfari.com/Feedback.aspx) section. Shelfari, 616 1st Ave #300, Seattle, WA 98104 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel.metheringham at dev.intechnology.co.uk Thu Sep 27 06:24:56 2007 From: nigel.metheringham at dev.intechnology.co.uk (Nigel Metheringham) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:24:56 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This list seems to have an abnormally high level of spam for a technical list (around one russian or similar based spams per day, which means pushing 1/3 of the total content) as well as the recent idiot posting to advertise shelfari. Can the list settings be tweaked to reduce this spam level - member posting only or similar? Or should I just give it up as a bad job and leave. Nigel. From skip at pobox.com Thu Sep 27 15:09:56 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:09:56 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> Nigel> This list seems to have an abnormally high level of spam for a Nigel> technical list .... Nigel> Can the list settings be tweaked to reduce this spam level - Nigel> member posting only or similar? SourceForge uses Mailman to manage its mailing lists. In theory posting could be restricted to subscribers. Anything beyond that (say, running a spam filter in front of the list as the lists at python.org do) would be possible, but a bit more work. I never see any of this spam. My mail goes through gmail.com which seems to catch most stuff. Anything it doesn't catch SpamBayes running on my computer does. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Thu Sep 27 15:11:04 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:11:04 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Control Page Creation In-Reply-To: <20070927083722.GB6196@castellio.local> References: <3130eec50709260802i399c774ci45ec3cff009fe0be@mail.gmail.com> <20070926163715.GM5696@castellio.local> <3130eec50709261300k10cd6403m54bd6b8f52043592@mail.gmail.com> <20070927083722.GB6196@castellio.local> Message-ID: <18172.72.811052.982788@montanaro.dyndns.org> >> OK, but reading this page: >> http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnAccessControlLists >> >> I can't find the word "create" anywhere. This has caused me to wonder >> if page creation is even controllable. Christoph> oops, you are right of course - I failed to doublecheck the Christoph> permissions you can control with an ACL. Just change "create" to "write". I think you'll be good to go. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From lists at idiacomputing.com Thu Sep 27 15:41:06 2007 From: lists at idiacomputing.com (George Dinwiddie) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:41:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <16774.63.240.121.48.1190922066.squirrel@webmail.idiacomputing.com> Mailman has a setting, "By default, should new list member postings be moderated?" that can be used to fight spam. It's under "Privacy Options" | "Sender Filters". Using this, and requiring a subscription to post, can greatly reduce the spam. It does, however, increase the workload of the moderator. - George On Thu, September 27, 2007 15:09, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > Nigel> This list seems to have an abnormally high level of spam for a > Nigel> technical list .... > > Nigel> Can the list settings be tweaked to reduce this spam level - > Nigel> member posting only or similar? > > SourceForge uses Mailman to manage its mailing lists. In theory posting > could be restricted to subscribers. Anything beyond that (say, running a > spam filter in front of the list as the lists at python.org do) would be > possible, but a bit more work. > > I never see any of this spam. My mail goes through gmail.com which seems > to > catch most stuff. Anything it doesn't catch SpamBayes running on my > computer does. > > -- > Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com Software Development http://www.idiacomputing.com Consultant and Coach http://www.agilemaryland.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From fdrake at gmail.com Thu Sep 27 15:43:17 2007 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:43:17 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80709271243s7b028b1fq865a587bac2831f8@mail.gmail.com> On 9/27/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > I never see any of this spam. My mail goes through gmail.com which seems to > catch most stuff. Anything it doesn't catch SpamBayes running on my > computer does. I'm using just GMail for this, and it doesn't show that much of the Russian spam, but a couple a week get through. This is much worse than for any other list I read via GMail. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Fri Sep 28 01:24:08 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:24:08 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Is there a way to display SVG images inline within the wiki? In-Reply-To: <20070927071134.9C22779629@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> References: <20070927071134.9C22779629@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Message-ID: <20070928072408.cdb1c672.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:11:35 +1000 "Dave Hodgman" wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I've been going bananas trying to get my SVG objects to appear inline > within my wiki pages. I've been trying the EmbedObject and svg > macros, I've had a go at hacking the source, I've googled it until > I'm blue in the face and I just cannot get it to work. Firefox > insists on popping up the viewer selection dialog. Do you have an example page (html) that I could test? I don't mange to see svg in either opera or firefox and both support it. So I think I'm doing something wrong with the html code. Preben From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Fri Sep 28 13:49:33 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:49:33 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Is there a way to display SVG images inline within the wiki? In-Reply-To: <20070928052945.CFC1378CF3@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> References: <20070928072408.cdb1c672.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> <20070928052945.CFC1378CF3@mail-1.armadale.linkme.net.au> Message-ID: <20070928194933.a188f572.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:29:46 +1000 "Dave Hodgman" wrote: > Preben, > > I'm working with an intranet wiki so I can show anything to you > unfortunately. No offence but I'm guessing that if you can't get a > basic svg to display in firefox then you won't be able to get > moinmoin to display one either. For me it works fine using embed in firefox, I don't get it to work without embed for some reason. But I guess first you have to get it to work in normal (x)html, before you go poking into moinmoin. When you have it working you should have a look at the svg macro and see what code it generates compared to your html and code it accordingly. Preben From p.f.moore at gmail.com Fri Sep 28 13:58:36 2007 From: p.f.moore at gmail.com (Paul Moore) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 18:58:36 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80709271243s7b028b1fq865a587bac2831f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9cee7ab80709271243s7b028b1fq865a587bac2831f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <79990c6b0709281058p6e0d16ex43d55a93223f1152@mail.gmail.com> On 27/09/2007, Fred Drake wrote: > On 9/27/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > I never see any of this spam. My mail goes through gmail.com which seems to > > catch most stuff. Anything it doesn't catch SpamBayes running on my > > computer does. > > I'm using just GMail for this, and it doesn't show that much of the > Russian spam, but a couple a week get through. This is much worse > than for any other list I read via GMail. I'm also using gmail (web interface) and I get quite a lot of the spam. I've tried training on it ("Report as Spam") but it doesn't have much effect. Whether that's because the list address is in my gmail contacts, I don't know. As others have said, the spam level in this list is far more than any other technical list I subscribe to. Paul. From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de Fri Sep 28 14:26:43 2007 From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:26:43 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: <79990c6b0709281058p6e0d16ex43d55a93223f1152@mail.gmail.com> References: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9cee7ab80709271243s7b028b1fq865a587bac2831f8@mail.gmail.com> <79990c6b0709281058p6e0d16ex43d55a93223f1152@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I don't have to complain about any spam that gmail is not filtering out. BTW, I never even got the subject "Do we like the same books" (not even in the spam folder) .... Cheers, -Sebastian Haase On 9/28/07, Paul Moore wrote: > On 27/09/2007, Fred Drake wrote: > > On 9/27/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > > > I never see any of this spam. My mail goes through gmail.com which seems to > > > catch most stuff. Anything it doesn't catch SpamBayes running on my > > > computer does. > > > > I'm using just GMail for this, and it doesn't show that much of the > > Russian spam, but a couple a week get through. This is much worse > > than for any other list I read via GMail. > > I'm also using gmail (web interface) and I get quite a lot of the > spam. I've tried training on it ("Report as Spam") but it doesn't have > much effect. Whether that's because the list address is in my gmail > contacts, I don't know. > > As others have said, the spam level in this list is far more than any > other technical list I subscribe to. > > Paul. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Fri Sep 28 14:31:53 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:31:53 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: References: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9cee7ab80709271243s7b028b1fq865a587bac2831f8@mail.gmail.com> <79990c6b0709281058p6e0d16ex43d55a93223f1152@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070928203153.36f157cb.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Can we stop this thread now? It is getting more annoying than the few spams from US or Russia that comes to the list. From nigel.metheringham at dev.intechnology.co.uk Fri Sep 28 15:44:47 2007 From: nigel.metheringham at dev.intechnology.co.uk (Nigel Metheringham) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 20:44:47 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: <79990c6b0709281058p6e0d16ex43d55a93223f1152@mail.gmail.com> References: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9cee7ab80709271243s7b028b1fq865a587bac2831f8@mail.gmail.com> <79990c6b0709281058p6e0d16ex43d55a93223f1152@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 28 Sep 2007, at 18:58, Paul Moore wrote: > As others have said, the spam level in this list is far more than any > other technical list I subscribe to. And thats the bit that concerns me - I have reasonably good server and client side filtering (although this stuff does get through more often than it should because its effectively been trusted by the list MLM). However spam coming through the list means that the archives and the whole list reputation are polluted. Like graffiti on a house, it makes a statement (possibly incorrect, but one thats taken as a first impression) of the occupants. Nigel. -- [ Nigel Metheringham Nigel.Metheringham at InTechnology.co.uk ] [ - Comments in this message are my own and not ITO opinion/policy - ] From skip at pobox.com Fri Sep 28 17:02:11 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:02:11 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] List spamminess (was Re: Do we like the same books?) In-Reply-To: References: <18172.4.161939.412997@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9cee7ab80709271243s7b028b1fq865a587bac2831f8@mail.gmail.com> <79990c6b0709281058p6e0d16ex43d55a93223f1152@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18173.27603.118952.414544@montanaro.dyndns.org> We can chatter all we want about what we see in the list's behavior. Thomas Waldmann is the admin for the list though, so he'll have to chime in if a change is to be made. Thomas, I help administer a number of mailing lists at python.org. If you'd like some help managing the moin-user list, let me know. -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From tolgaSams at annschwab.com Sat Sep 29 09:13:40 2007 From: tolgaSams at annschwab.com (tolga Sams) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:13:40 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] nenjilji Message-ID: <748287AC.50C44200@annschwab.com> Hi To moin-user Emergency report. Check DMXC! Price up 21% in 30 minutes! 5 day price: ~$0.50 From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Sat Sep 29 12:40:14 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:40:14 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] How can one help with translations? Message-ID: <20070929184014.fedd6974.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Hi I would like to translate moinmoin to Norwegian (nb). Where can I find info on how to contribute? best wishes Preben From randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org Sun Sep 30 05:49:03 2007 From: randhol+moinmoin at pvv.org (Preben Randhol) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:49:03 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] DOS attack vunerability Message-ID: <20070930114903.a178dcf0.randhol+moinmoin@pvv.org> Hi I'm running a moinmoin with fastcgi and lighttpd. I just noticed that if I direct my web-browser to localhost:2426 (port of the moin process) and then press stop, then the moin.fcg process starts eating CPU and goes to 94-99% CPU usage. Is this a bug or feature? It would be very easy to bring a web-site down unless firewalled against this. Preben From lericqueDYKHOUSE at cvprep.co.nz Sun Sep 30 08:06:52 2007 From: lericqueDYKHOUSE at cvprep.co.nz (lericque DYKHOUSE) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 14:06:52 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] essioig Message-ID: Good day moin-user Alert to all investors! Look at D-M-X-C! 5-day price: ~$0.50 Check it at 31.09.2007 esnatsid essaname etaepylc esoyan From sean at dague.net Sun Sep 30 08:17:22 2007 From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 08:17:22 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <1190789797.29055.21.camel@black> References: <20070924115355.GF4037@dague.net> <18167.46991.197063.399947@montanaro.dyndns.org> <20070924141659.GC14880@Toms.NET> <20070925114455.GH4037@dague.net> <1190789797.29055.21.camel@black> Message-ID: <20070930121722.GG617@dague.net> On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 08:56:37AM +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > > Yeh, any help on this one would be great. The spam bots are getting > > through all the counter measures in place right now, > > Maybe check if the counter measures really work, e.g. if the BadContent > page gets regularly its automatic updates from MoinMaster. > > Also, if you encounter spam, add the patterns to > MoinMaster:BadContent. It is working, but just about a day too late. > > and if there isn't > > a work around I'll have to dump moin for something else, as I really > > can't be deleting spam every morning. > > Well, some notes about that: > * if you run a wiki that is r/w for anybody, you will have to live with > some amount of spam > * if you have some community of users on your wiki, the other users can > help you fighting the spammers (maybe tell them to do and show how to > use revert action) > * for superusers, there is despam action for mass reverting > * if you just run the wiki for personal use or a very small number of > people, you can configure your ACLs so that only some you or some > EditorGroup can write to pages on your wiki (this will immediately stop > all spam, but also all contributions from all other "unknown" users) > * captchas can be a real annoyance for your users, especially for users > with limited vision > * we have plans for improving user registration and anti-spam measures, > but there is also lots of other stuff to do. The intent is to let anyone register and work on the wiki. Putting some counter measures in registration would really be the most ideal solution. Another thing that would be nice would be user management through the wiki interface. It would be really useful to be able to easily delete the spam bot accounts. -Sean -- __________________________________________________________________ Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From tom at Toms.NET Sun Sep 30 11:40:50 2007 From: tom at Toms.NET (Thomas Arthur Oehser) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 11:40:50 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] captcha system for moin? In-Reply-To: <276445.93685.qm@web36214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070930121722.GG617@dague.net> <276445.93685.qm@web36214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070930154050.GC20409@Toms.NET> > > Another thing that would be nice would be user management through the > > wiki interface. It would be really useful to be able to easily > > delete > > the spam bot accounts. > If you add yourself to the superuser list in wikiconfig.py, then when > you go to the UserPreferences page, there is a drop down box so you can > select the ID of another user. This is available in 1.5.8, not sure > when it was added. It is usable- but not optimal. I would really like to see a tabular user management page that showed when they last logged in and had links to their last edits, as well as a button to delete and a check box to disable, and which showed both their user name and email address in the table. The drop-down ability to 'su' to that user is not ideal... From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Sun Sep 30 13:06:00 2007 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 13:06:00 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] moin + asciimath Message-ID: Does this actually work for anyone? http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MathMlSupport/HelpOnMathematicalFormulas It sure doesn't work for me with firefox-2.0.0.5. Screenshot attached: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The page you referenced for me doesn't work on my Mac at home (Firefox 2.0.0.7), but the basic MathML page does. Skip From skip at pobox.com Sun Sep 30 17:57:45 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:57:45 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] moin + asciimath In-Reply-To: <3130eec50709301404g3dff8534m60d3d2866c50fd50@mail.gmail.com> References: <3130eec50709301404g3dff8534m60d3d2866c50fd50@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18176.7129.445750.474603@montanaro.dyndns.org> Gnarlie> Not sure what I should be seeing, but here is the same page in Gnarlie> the Mac browser iCab: Gnarlie> http://gnarlie.freeshell.org/HelpOnMathematicalFormulas.png Nope, you shouldn't be seeing the "$$ ... $$" stuff. I suspect that the moinmoin server has not been patched to recognize where the formulas start and end. Skip From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Sun Sep 30 19:55:32 2007 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:55:32 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] moin + asciimath In-Reply-To: <18176.7129.445750.474603@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <3130eec50709301404g3dff8534m60d3d2866c50fd50@mail.gmail.com> <18176.7129.445750.474603@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <200709301955.33274.ndbecker2@gmail.com> On Sunday 30 September 2007, skip at pobox.com wrote: > Gnarlie> Not sure what I should be seeing, but here is the same page in > Gnarlie> the Mac browser iCab: > > Gnarlie> http://gnarlie.freeshell.org/HelpOnMathematicalFormulas.png > > Nope, you shouldn't be seeing the "$$ ... $$" stuff. 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