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URL: From Shawn.Hill at soeidental.com Sun May 6 19:46:30 2007 From: Shawn.Hill at soeidental.com (Shawn Hill) Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 11:46:30 +1200 Subject: [Moin-user] Whitespace and CamelCase In-Reply-To: <1178077319.19771.10.camel@localhost> References: <1178077319.19771.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: Hi Everyone, While I wait for the results of the google summer of code on MoinMoin (YAY!) I need some help. Whitespace I have a problem with the editor (GUI and TEXT) where whitespace is removed. So a non-numbered list becomes one long sentence and a what is supposed to be two paragraphs becomes one. This happens with text I paste (using text only) or type in directly to the editor. This is a big usability issue with us at the moment. CamelCase I would like to know if it is possible to configure the camelcase rules. We often want to create a page with text like FunctionABC or ABCFunction and these are not recognized as camelcase. Does anyone have any suggestions on this? Thanks From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Sun May 6 21:16:58 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 19:16:58 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Whitespace and CamelCase In-Reply-To: References: <1178077319.19771.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <3130eec50705061816o6eb9bdc8h4fc95a8aa6aedd4@mail.gmail.com> On 5/6/07, Shawn Hill wrote: > Whitespace > I have a problem with the editor (GUI and TEXT) where whitespace is > removed. So a non-numbered list becomes one long sentence and a what is > supposed to be two paragraphs becomes one. I believe there is a feature request to convert whitespace characters into entities. I don't know what the status of the feature is. > CamelCase > I would like to know if it is possible to configure the camelcase rules. > We often want to create a page with text like FunctionABC or ABCFunction > and these are not recognized as camelcase. Take a look at the "nocamelcase.py" module, you can configure globally or pagewise to disable CamelCase linking. While we are on the subject, I seem to recall there is a way to make CamelCase words render with a space before the capital letters. Does anyone remember what that feature is? -- Gnarlie http://Gnarlodious.com/ From davidlmontgomery at gmail.com Mon May 7 01:00:47 2007 From: davidlmontgomery at gmail.com (David Montgomery) Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 22:00:47 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Whitespace and CamelCase In-Reply-To: References: <1178077319.19771.10.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <96d4cf580705062200h6695492ai3d3b6ad89727063e@mail.gmail.com> Hi Shawn, If I understand what you mean by "non-numbered lists", then the "Preserved Linebreaks" section of http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/DavidMontgomery/MyMoinMoinTweaks might be useful. But it might be simpler to just format this text with a leading , like this . line one . line two David On 5/6/07, Shawn Hill wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > While I wait for the results of the google summer of code on MoinMoin > (YAY!) I need some help. > > Whitespace > I have a problem with the editor (GUI and TEXT) where whitespace is > removed. So a non-numbered list becomes one long sentence and a what is > supposed to be two paragraphs becomes one. This happens with text I > paste (using text only) or type in directly to the editor. This is a > big usability issue with us at the moment. > > CamelCase > I would like to know if it is possible to configure the camelcase rules. > We often want to create a page with text like FunctionABC or ABCFunction > and these are not recognized as camelcase. Does anyone have any > suggestions on this? > > Thanks > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From gia at webde.de Mon May 7 08:42:48 2007 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 14:42:48 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with lupy index creation Message-ID: <463F1EC8.7030501@webde.de> When I run sudo -u wwwrun moin-build-index create --config-dir=/usr/share/moin/config --wiki-url=my.host.de/my_wiki/ it starts to build the index: [Mon May 7 14:36:20 2007] indexing all (1369) pages... After indexing some pages it comes to a JPG: [Mon May 7 14:36:21 2007] Foo/Bar/Baz/Some.jpg True Needed 5.440 secs. Then it stops with this traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/moin-build-index", line 3, in ? run() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/scripts/moin_build_index.py", line 61, in run BuildIndex().run() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/scripts/_util.py", line 78, in run self.mainloop() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/scripts/moin_build_index.py", line 53, in mainloop self.command() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/scripts/moin_build_index.py", line 57, in command Index(self.request).indexPages() File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/lupy.py", line 300, in indexPages self._index_pages(request, None, files, update) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/lupy.py", line 530, in _index_pages self._index_page(writer, p, update) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/lupy.py", line 498, in _index_page att_content = self.contentfilter(filename) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/lupy.py", line 392, in contentfilter execute = wikiutil.importPlugin(request.cfg, 'filter', _filter) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 804, in importPlugin return importWikiPlugin(cfg, kind, name, function) File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 814, in importWikiPlugin if not name in wikiPlugins(kind, cfg): File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiutil.py", line 866, in wikiPlugins return pysupport.importName(modulename, "modules") File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/MoinMoin/util/pysupport.py", line 68, in importName module = __import__(modulename, globals(), {}, [name]) ImportError: No module named filter What am I doing wrong here? Do I need to configure anything else? Any help would be highly appreciated. -Gisbert -- Gisbert Amm Softwareentwickler Infrastruktur Telefon: (0721) 91374 - 4224 Telefax: (0721) 91374 - 2740 E-Mail: gisbert.amm at 1und1.de Internet: www.1und1.de 1&1 Internet AG Elgendorfer Strasse 57 56410 Montabaur Amtsgericht Montabaur HRB 6484 Vorstand: Ralph Dommermuth, Matthias Ehrlich, Andreas Gauger (Vorsitzender), Matthias Greve, Henning Ahlert, Achim Weiss, Robert Hoffmann, Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Michael Scheeren From tw-public at gmx.de Mon May 7 11:46:39 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 17:46:39 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with lupy index creation In-Reply-To: <463F1EC8.7030501@webde.de> References: <463F1EC8.7030501@webde.de> Message-ID: <463F49DF.9060501@gmx.de> Moin Gisbert, > sudo -u wwwrun moin-build-index create > --config-dir=/usr/share/moin/config --wiki-url=my.host.de/my_wiki/ BTW, you know lupy is dead? If you need indexed search, maybe better wait for 1.6 which has Xapian search engine. We kicked lupy because it made too much trouble and was not maintained any more (and not fixable by us). It is not suggested to use that for big production wikis yet, though, except if you want to help testing. :) But lupy isn't either. > ImportError: No module named filter > What am I doing wrong here? Do I need to configure anything else? Check if you have a "filter" module in data/plugin (content see the template in the release archive). BTW, will some of you guys be at the GPN? Cheers, Thomas From gia at webde.de Tue May 8 10:43:09 2007 From: gia at webde.de (Gisbert Amm) Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 16:43:09 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with lupy index creation In-Reply-To: <463F49DF.9060501@gmx.de> References: <463F1EC8.7030501@webde.de> <463F49DF.9060501@gmx.de> Message-ID: <46408C7D.8030406@webde.de> Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > BTW, you know lupy is dead? Yes, I've read it. There should possibly a hint be placed on the page HelpOnSearching/LupySearch, warning people that it'll disappear (ATM one can still read there: " To be moved into HelpOnSearching when we ship Lupy"). > If you need indexed search, maybe better wait for 1.6 which has Xapian > search engine. We kicked lupy because it made too much trouble and was > not maintained any more (and not fixable by us). > > It is not suggested to use that for big production wikis yet, though, > except if you want to help testing. :) But lupy isn't either. For the moment I only needed an index file to see if it could possibly be merged into the overall search of our companiy which is also Lucene based. Is Xapian able to produce Lucene compatible index files? > >>ImportError: No module named filter >>What am I doing wrong here? Do I need to configure anything else? > > > Check if you have a "filter" module in data/plugin (content see the > template in the release archive). Simply symlinked the template and now it works. Thank you. > BTW, will some of you guys be at the GPN? Me unfortunately not. -Gisbert -- Gisbert Amm Softwareentwickler Infrastruktur Telefon: (0721) 91374 - 4224 Telefax: (0721) 91374 - 2740 E-Mail: gisbert.amm at 1und1.de Internet: www.1und1.de 1&1 Internet AG Elgendorfer Strasse 57 56410 Montabaur Amtsgericht Montabaur HRB 6484 Vorstand: Ralph Dommermuth, Matthias Ehrlich, Andreas Gauger (Vorsitzender), Matthias Greve, Henning Ahlert, Norbert Lang, Achim Weiss, Robert Hoffmann, Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Michael Scheeren From jon at epcc.ed.ac.uk Tue May 8 10:48:04 2007 From: jon at epcc.ed.ac.uk (Jon Hill) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 15:48:04 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages Message-ID: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> Hi, I've had a vague description on timeouts occurring when a user is editing a page. He clicks edit, starts typing away and then clicks preview or save only for the webserver to timeout. Just to eliminate possibilities, is there *anything* in MoinMoin that could be causing this behaviour? I find this very unlikely, but I have to ask anyway :) Many thanks in advance for any insights, Cheers, Jon --------------------------- Jon Hill EPCC, University of Edinburgh, Kings Buildings, West Mains Road, Edinburgh, EH3 3JZ 0131 6513396 http://www.geologyrocks.co.uk From kauer at biplane.com.au Tue May 8 11:04:57 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 01:04:57 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages In-Reply-To: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> References: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1178636697.8196.27.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:48 +0100, Jon Hill wrote: > I've had a vague description on timeouts occurring when a user is editing a > page. He clicks edit, starts typing away and then clicks preview or save > only for the webserver to timeout. Just to eliminate possibilities, is there > *anything* in MoinMoin that could be causing this behaviour? I find this > very unlikely, but I have to ask anyway :) What exactly is timing out? Does he get a server message (i.e., a message from MoinMoin) of any sort, or does he get a looong wait followed by a browser error message? Is it possible that this user is running afoul of the surge protection stuff and perceiving it as a "time-out" rather than "time out"? :-) Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From jon at epcc.ed.ac.uk Tue May 8 11:45:18 2007 From: jon at epcc.ed.ac.uk (Jon Hill) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 16:45:18 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <024d01c79187$e4108990$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:48 +0100, Jon Hill wrote: > > I've had a vague description on timeouts occurring when a user is > > editing a page. He clicks edit, starts typing away and then clicks > > preview or save only for the webserver to timeout. Just to > eliminate > > possibilities, is there > > *anything* in MoinMoin that could be causing this behaviour? I find > > this very unlikely, but I have to ask anyway :) > > What exactly is timing out? Does he get a server message > (i.e., a message from MoinMoin) of any sort, or does he get a > looong wait followed by a browser error message? > > Is it possible that this user is running afoul of the surge > protection stuff and perceiving it as a "time-out" rather > than "time out"? :-) > > Regards, K. > I've established that this is a broswer timeout with the "server not available" message. Unlikely to be MoinMoin then.... Thanks for the suggestions though. --------------------------- Jon Hill EPCC, University of Edinburgh, Kings Buildings, West Mains Road, Edinburgh, EH3 3JZ 0131 6513396 http://www.geologyrocks.co.uk From kauer at biplane.com.au Tue May 8 11:49:08 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 01:49:08 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages In-Reply-To: <024d01c79187$e4108990$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> References: <024d01c79187$e4108990$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1178639348.8196.34.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 16:45 +0100, Jon Hill wrote: > I've established that this is a broswer timeout with the "server not > available" message. Unlikely to be MoinMoin then.... Unless something in MoinMoin is going into an infinite loop and never responding. Any special mods in the code you are running? It is odd though. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From newz at bearfruit.org Tue May 8 12:12:10 2007 From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 11:12:10 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages In-Reply-To: <024d01c79187$e4108990$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> References: <024d01c79187$e4108990$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 5/8/07, Jon Hill wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-05-08 at 15:48 +0100, Jon Hill wrote: > > > I've had a vague description on timeouts occurring when a user is > > > editing a page. He clicks edit, starts typing away and then clicks > > > preview or save only for the webserver to timeout. Just to > > eliminate > > > possibilities, is there > > > *anything* in MoinMoin that could be causing this behaviour? I find > > > this very unlikely, but I have to ask anyway :) > > I've established that this is a broswer timeout with the "server not > available" message. Unlikely to be MoinMoin then.... We used to get this problem when pages where saved and when they updated their UserPreferences. It was related to performance problems because there were a *ton* of users and moin was spending a lot of time scanning to see who had subscribed to the page. We upgraded the server and switched from cgi to mod_python. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org newz2000 on freenode From kauer at biplane.com.au Tue May 8 13:34:03 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 03:34:03 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] Session timeout configurable? Message-ID: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hi there. We use MoinMoin on our very small intranet. We basically leave it open all the time, ready to put stuff into. So that changes are trackable to the person that made them, stuff is not editable except for logged in users. Problem: The sessions time out after a while. I'm not sure how long, but it's way too short for us - once a day at most would be better So how and where do I set the session timeout for MoinMoin? That is, the time before MoinMoin will log a user out? Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From robert.torkuhl at uni-dortmund.de Tue May 8 13:48:37 2007 From: robert.torkuhl at uni-dortmund.de (Robert Torkuhl) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 19:48:37 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Moin-user] Session timeout configurable? In-Reply-To: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <36667.83.129.12.252.1178646517.squirrel@unimail.uni-dortmund.de> Just take a look: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration cookie_lifetime is the key Greets, r > Hi there. > > We use MoinMoin on our very small intranet. We basically leave it open > all the time, ready to put stuff into. So that changes are trackable to > the person that made them, stuff is not editable except for logged in > users. > > Problem: The sessions time out after a while. I'm not sure how long, but > it's way too short for us - once a day at most would be better > > So how and where do I set the session timeout for MoinMoin? That is, the > time before MoinMoin will log a user out? > > Regards, K. > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) > http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From Shawn.Hill at soeidental.com Wed May 9 00:14:33 2007 From: Shawn.Hill at soeidental.com (Shawn Hill) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:14:33 +1200 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi All, The usability of the GUI editor MoinMoin is a big issue for my users, so much so that I am being pressured daily on it. I know the google summer of code is working on it, but is there a way I can get more visibility on this? Are they going to upgrade the version of the FCK editor (have a look at the FCK editor in TestLink http://www.teamst.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 I have configured it in house and it is lovely to use) Thanks Shawn. From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed May 9 00:36:22 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 22:36:22 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages In-Reply-To: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> References: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3130eec50705082136i614331fco1ef2f17667acb6fe@mail.gmail.com> On 5/8/07, Jon Hill wrote: > I've had a vague description on timeouts occurring when a user is editing a > page. He clicks edit, starts typing away and then clicks preview or save > only for the webserver to timeout. That happens to me too, but apparently only when editing a page on the localnet. I get logged out spontaneously, and if it happens while editing a page it just quits loading. -- Gnarlie From tw-public at gmx.de Wed May 9 09:22:31 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:22:31 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Problem with lupy index creation In-Reply-To: <46408C7D.8030406@webde.de> References: <463F1EC8.7030501@webde.de> <463F49DF.9060501@gmx.de> <46408C7D.8030406@webde.de> Message-ID: <4641CB17.5070902@gmx.de> > Yes, I've read it. There should possibly a hint be placed on the page > HelpOnSearching/LupySearch, warning people that it'll disappear (ATM one > can still read there: " To be moved into HelpOnSearching when we ship > Lupy"). The problem is we can't update the 1.5 help pages any more (moinmaster is already at 1.6). > For the moment I only needed an index file to see if it could possibly > be merged into the overall search of our companiy which is also Lucene > based. Is Xapian able to produce Lucene compatible index files? I don't know, but I doubt it. >> BTW, will some of you guys be at the GPN? > Me unfortunately not. Pity. From tw at waldmann-edv.de Wed May 9 09:27:57 2007 From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:27:57 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages In-Reply-To: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> References: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <4641CC5D.7000901@waldmann-edv.de> > I've had a vague description on timeouts occurring when a user is editing a > page. He clicks edit, starts typing away and then clicks preview or save > only for the webserver to timeout. Just to eliminate possibilities, is there > *anything* in MoinMoin that could be causing this behaviour? I find this > very unlikely, but I have to ask anyway :) Hmm, maybe broken reverse dns lookup? I have seen bug reports about long delays related to that (although NOT timeouts). Maybe just check if the IP of the client having the timeout resolves to a dns name on the wiki server. server: $ host 1.2.3.4 # <- IP of client Recent moin versions are configurable to not do reverse dns lookups on save (if you can't fix your dns). And a even more recent version even fixed it for standalone server. From fdrake at gmail.com Wed May 9 09:36:38 2007 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:36:38 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] Timeouts on editing pages In-Reply-To: <4641CC5D.7000901@waldmann-edv.de> References: <022d01c7917f$e5427380$3d30d781@epcc.ed.ac.uk> <4641CC5D.7000901@waldmann-edv.de> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80705090636u6adcd33etee317862d1bea027@mail.gmail.com> On 5/9/07, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > Hmm, maybe broken reverse dns lookup? I have seen bug reports about long > delays related to that (although NOT timeouts). I've had exactly this problem in the past, and fixing the DNS issues made things happy again. For a publicly accessible server on a NATted home LAN, accessing from clients on the LAN via the external IP triggered this behavior using MoinMoin 1.5.2. I ended up running "dnsmasq" on the same machine as MoinMoin and told my router to hand that out as the DNS server via DHCP, and configured dnsmasq to hand out the internal addresses for all the publicly accessible names. MoinMoin has worked like a charm since. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller From skip at pobox.com Wed May 9 09:26:53 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 13:26:53 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Moin-user] Security vulnerability - what versions are affected? Message-ID: Saw this Ubuntu advisory today: http://www.net-security.org/advisory.php?id=7485 It mentions 1.5.2 and 1.5.3. A quick search of the MoinMoin wiki didn't turn up any menation of this problem. Are older or newer versions similarly at risk? Thx, Skip Montanaro From tw-public at gmx.de Wed May 9 09:53:00 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:53:00 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4641D23C.2050100@gmx.de> > The usability of the GUI editor MoinMoin is a big issue for my users, so > much so that I am being pressured daily on it. We know it is far from perfect. > I know the google summer of code is working on it, Huh? Where did you get that info? We have 4 SOC projects, but none of them works on gui editor. > Are they going to upgrade the version of the FCK editor (have > a look at the FCK editor in TestLink > http://www.teamst.org/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1 I have > configured it in house and it is lovely to use) Well, we would love to see the FCKeditor part of moin upgraded to a more recent version. One problem is that I personally don't have time for it, I am trying to get 1.6 out ASAP (but it takes longer than expected), so I rather will not invest time in FCKeditor upgrade. And no other of our developers is working on that either AFAIK. For current development (including SOC work starting soon), we forked of some moin-1.7 branches, so it doesn't destabilize the 1.6 stuff. I will try to work on the release of it while caring for SOC (and especially the student working on the storage backend, I am mentoring him). BTW, I tried to upgrade FCKeditor some months ago, but our moin specific plugins stopped working. So it is not just about copying some new FCKeditor release into some directory, the upgrade involves finding out why the plugins do not work any more and needs someone who has time and knowledge to fix that (I guess some javascript debugging and a bit of python). Some of the problems the GUI editor/converter has are dependant on the input. It usually has no big problem processing input generated by moin or by someone typing in some stuff. But if people copy & paste from Microsoft applications, it is likely that it falls over the tag soup they call HTML. So the current advice on that is just "don't do that". There is some "paste from word" function in FCKeditor which is maybe filtering the worst stuff out, but I guess that also can't do wonders. Copy&Paste is in general a big problem. Even if the src html and the target html is valid before c&p, they can get invalid after c&p (because not every piece of html is valid in every context). From tw-public at gmx.de Wed May 9 09:56:54 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:56:54 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Security vulnerability - what versions are affected? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4641D326.9070302@gmx.de> > Saw this Ubuntu advisory today: > > http://www.net-security.org/advisory.php?id=7485 > > It mentions 1.5.2 and 1.5.3. A quick search of the MoinMoin wiki didn't turn up > any menation of this problem. Are older or newer versions similarly at risk? The best place to look such stuff up is in the CHANGES file in the repo (see hg.thinkmo.de). There will be a 1.5.8 release soon addressing such problems. From ujaroe at googlemail.com Wed May 9 10:25:55 2007 From: ujaroe at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulf_Jaenicke-R=F6=DFler?=) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 16:25:55 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] German pages - where to download? Message-ID: Hi, I can't find the german pages ("HilfeZumEditieren" a.s.o.) download. Where can I get it? Thanks, Ulf From newz at bearfruit.org Wed May 9 10:57:11 2007 From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 09:57:11 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: On 5/8/07, Shawn Hill wrote: > Hi All, > > The usability of the GUI editor MoinMoin is a big issue for my users, so > much so that I am being pressured daily on it. I know the google summer > of code is working on it, but is there a way I can get more visibility > on this? This may not be a satisfactory answer, but here's what I suggest doing: Train your users not to use the wysiwyg. Wikis are about content, and when it comes to writing content, there is *nothing* faster than the wiki syntax[1]. From an aesthetic perspective, users should not be styling their text. Instead, they should leave that to your css and style guide. In my opinion, the wysiwyg in Moin has just two useful features: It makes creating and updating tables simpler and it has that nice tool for inserting macros. Baring tables, with the wysiwyg disabled, you can easily copy and paste from your favorite office program and get pretty much just what you wanted. Especially if you give your users a little training. In the end, they will be much happier and more productive if they just embrace Wiki markup. The problem with WYSIWYG editors and wikis is that wiki != html, so you can represent stuff in the wysiwyg editor that is not realistic in the wiki. So in reality, it should be called wysi NOT wyg. I wonder if it would be a better fit to do something like wordpress, where you have the bold, italics, link and etc buttons above the editor window, but instead of wysiwyg, it just wraps the appropriate markup around your highlighted text when you hit the B for bold. http://people.ubuntu.com/~mnuzum/tmp/wordpress-editor.png [1] Stephen King wrote a book once where a character created a direct interface from her brain to the typewriter to transcribe her dreams while sleeping, which in theory is more efficient than wiki syntax, but still a few years away -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org newz2000 on freenode From jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org Wed May 9 15:47:18 2007 From: jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org (Jean-Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=E9rard?=) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 21:47:18 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin used for porn spam publication Message-ID: <20070509194718.GA10086@tigreraye.nulle.part> Hi Everybody, I got a complaint yesterday from someone receiving porn spam with images hosted on my MoinMoin wiki. Indeed, some images had been attached to one of my pages. Interestingly enough, the complaint was sent to two different web site (mine and another one), both of them MoinMoin wiki, both of them with porn attachments (from the same user StepStep). This is quite an issue. - I'm subscribed to all pages of my wiki, but I don't get notification of added attachments. - As far as I know, it is not possible to limit attachments to a specific group of users or to filter them. The only choice that was left to me is to disable attachments altogether. I think this is an important issue that should be dealt with. - Is there any way to deal with this better than I did? - Is there any upcoming security evolution to fix this? Thanks. -- Jean-Philippe Gu?rard http://tigreraye.org From yahoo at jimpop.com Wed May 9 15:59:56 2007 From: yahoo at jimpop.com (Jim Popovitch) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:59:56 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin used for porn spam publication In-Reply-To: <20070509194718.GA10086@tigreraye.nulle.part> References: <20070509194718.GA10086@tigreraye.nulle.part> Message-ID: <1178740796.28852.31.camel@localhost> On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:47 +0200, Jean-Philippe Gu?rard wrote: > I think this is an important issue that should be dealt with. > > - Is there any way to deal with this better than I did? Would you run a public facing upload'able FTP site? I doubt it. Why do you run a wiki that allows anyone to post anything at will? > - Is there any upcoming security evolution to fix this? There already is, look at using ACLs to limit who does what on your wiki. Moin is not responsible for securing your site, you are. ;-) -Jim P. From jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org Wed May 9 16:39:49 2007 From: jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org (Jean-Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=E9rard?=) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 22:39:49 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin used for porn spam publication In-Reply-To: <1178740796.28852.31.camel@localhost> References: <20070509194718.GA10086@tigreraye.nulle.part> <1178740796.28852.31.camel@localhost> Message-ID: <20070509203949.GD20791@tigreraye.nulle.part> Le 2007-05-09 15:59:56 -0400, Jim Popovitch ?crivait : > On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 21:47 +0200, Jean-Philippe Gu?rard wrote: > > I think this is an important issue that should be dealt with. > > > > - Is there any way to deal with this better than I did? > > Would you run a public facing upload'able FTP site? I doubt it. Why > do you run a wiki that allows anyone to post anything at will? That's a good point. This was a closed site (write access limited to a specific group of users) that was opened (write access limited to known users) later on, without taking this aspect into account. > > - Is there any upcoming security evolution to fix this? > > There already is, look at using ACLs to limit who does what on your > wiki. Moin is not responsible for securing your site, you are. ;-) We are already using ACLs. But: - There is no ACL defined to limit adding attachments. Write access gives you both the right to add attachments (if attachments are enabled) and to write text. Either you forbid attachment to everybody, either you enable attachment to all users with write access. - The subscription feature act as an audit tool for the text being written. If somebody writes something that's not acceptable, I'm notified (as I'm subscribed to the whole wiki), and I can revert the page. There is no such audit tool for attachments. Thanks. -- Jean-Philippe Gu?rard http://tigreraye.org From jh at web.de Thu May 10 03:09:37 2007 From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 09:09:37 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin used for porn spam publication In-Reply-To: <20070509203949.GD20791@tigreraye.nulle.part> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 May 2007 22:39:49 +0200, Jean-Philippe Gu?rard wrote: > - The subscription feature act as an audit tool for the text being > written. If somebody writes something that's not acceptable, I'm > notified (as I'm subscribed to the whole wiki), and I can revert the > page. There is no such audit tool for attachments. subscribing to recentchanges rss might do the trick. Ciao, J?rgen From tp at pfennigsolutions.de Thu May 10 04:52:36 2007 From: tp at pfennigsolutions.de (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:52:36 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <4642DD54.2080409@pfennigsolutions.de> Matthew Nuzum schrieb: > This may not be a satisfactory answer, but here's what I suggest doing: > Train your users not to use the wysiwyg. Wikis are about content, and > when it comes to writing content, there is *nothing* faster than the > wiki syntax[1]. From an aesthetic perspective, users should not be > styling their text. Instead, they should leave that to your css and > style guide. > I would not agree on this position. Sure Wiki-Syntax is easy - but as you also say Wiki is about content and not about Syntax. The core principle is to make it very easy to contribute. The wiki syntax is not a core principle. What I often do is to mix both editors. What you can do for instances is: 1. Write a CamelCaseLink 2. Switch to GUI 3. Insert spaces for a nicer view of a page link. This is far more easy as to type in [:LinkCamelCasePageName:Long Camel Case Page Name] The shere number of keys you have to press or the actions yoou have to take (48 vs. 26). So to say nothing is quicker than wiki syntax is simply false. At the end I always use the text editor for making small changes, true - and also the many errors the gui editor still has makes it necessary to run after some edits. It simply that if the GUI editor would work more or less perfect there would be often no reason not to use it. And that whole thing is not about HTML but about structure. Thats not a WYSIWIG editor that we use - it has nothing to make sure that WYSIWYG - it just helps to insert markup. Thilo From jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org Thu May 10 11:30:24 2007 From: jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org (Jean-Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=E9rard?=) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 15:30:24 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin used for porn spam publication In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34033.140.94.2.33.1178811024.squirrel@tigreraye.org> > On Wed, 9 May 2007 22:39:49 +0200, Jean-Philippe Gu?rard wrote: > >> - The subscription feature act as an audit tool for the text being >> written. If somebody writes something that's not acceptable, I'm >> notified (as I'm subscribed to the whole wiki), and I can revert the >> page. There is no such audit tool for attachments. > > subscribing to recentchanges rss might do the trick. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, the RSS feed does not list the attachments-related changes. Thanks. -- Jean-Philippe Gu?rard http://tigreraye.org From newz at bearfruit.org Thu May 10 11:50:35 2007 From: newz at bearfruit.org (Matthew Nuzum) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:50:35 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: <4642DD54.2080409@pfennigsolutions.de> References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4642DD54.2080409@pfennigsolutions.de> Message-ID: On 5/10/07, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > Matthew Nuzum schrieb: > > This may not be a satisfactory answer, but here's what I suggest doing: > > Train your users not to use the wysiwyg. Wikis are about content, and > > when it comes to writing content, there is *nothing* faster than the > > wiki syntax[1]. From an aesthetic perspective, users should not be > > styling their text. Instead, they should leave that to your css and > > style guide. > > > I would not agree on this position. Sure Wiki-Syntax is easy - but as > you also say Wiki is about content and not about Syntax. The core > principle is to make it very easy to contribute. The wiki syntax is not > a core principle. > It simply that if the GUI editor would work more or less perfect there > would be often no reason not to use it. And that whole thing is not > about HTML but about structure. Thats not a WYSIWIG editor that we use - > it has nothing to make sure that WYSIWYG - it just helps to insert markup. > All very good points Thilo, and by all means, everyone should take my previous comments with a grain of salt, since we all have different users. Just a suggestion, but this editor popped up on Ajaxian and looks promising - I think *my* users would enjoy something like this more than FCK. http://livepipe.net/projects/control_textarea/ Looks remarkably easy to customize and integrate too. textarea_toolbar.addButton('Bold',function(){ this.wrapSelection('**','**'); } I'm going to do some playing with it after I finish my current project I think. -- Matthew Nuzum www.bearfruit.org newz2000 on freenode From email at pfennigsolutions.de Thu May 10 12:00:05 2007 From: email at pfennigsolutions.de (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 18:00:05 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4642DD54.2080409@pfennigsolutions.de> Message-ID: <46434185.4090100@pfennigsolutions.de> Matthew Nuzum wrote: > http://livepipe.net/projects/control_textarea/ > > *shrugg* - I cant say if its easy to integrate. I also did not look how current fck is integrated. Maybe it would be cool to have editors as extensions to make it possible to use different editors. Drupal uses that technique: You download a original source of TinyMCE and then a Drupal package that binds that editor in. The problem with that is that the interface will be different on many installations. But one could install one editor on default. What I could do is to collect some data of what works and what not based on what we already have - and then make or refactor a page where it is made clear what must be done to fix. Personally I feel that the nix of two editors is ok if people are not depending on a GUI editor. From Shawn.Hill at soeidental.com Thu May 10 16:46:59 2007 From: Shawn.Hill at soeidental.com (Shawn Hill) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:46:59 +1200 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4642DD54.2080409@pfennigsolutions.de> <46434185.4090100@pfennigsolutions.de> Message-ID: For what it's worth, the GUI editor as far as I am concerned does not have to be some massively fancy WYSIWYG editor. It should just be an easy way for non-technical users to contribute. Fair enough the CSS should handle the markup, however, creating simple things like headings, paragraphs, lists, tables and inserting images should be the aim, hell it's not supposed to be a word processor. I am happy to help gather data and set priorities if it will help, I can go to the level of list a bug with reporduction steps. IMHO there is not that much that needs to be looked at to make the GUI editor usable, there are just some key areas which affect users. Since I am no developer, how else can I help this process? -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net on behalf of Thilo Pfennig Sent: Fri 5/11/2007 4:00 AM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Moin-user] FCK Editor Matthew Nuzum wrote: > http://livepipe.net/projects/control_textarea/ > > *shrugg* - I cant say if its easy to integrate. I also did not look how current fck is integrated. Maybe it would be cool to have editors as extensions to make it possible to use different editors. Drupal uses that technique: You download a original source of TinyMCE and then a Drupal package that binds that editor in. The problem with that is that the interface will be different on many installations. But one could install one editor on default. What I could do is to collect some data of what works and what not based on what we already have - and then make or refactor a page where it is made clear what must be done to fix. Personally I feel that the nix of two editors is ok if people are not depending on a GUI editor. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From hpaavola at vmware.com Thu May 10 17:29:16 2007 From: hpaavola at vmware.com (Harri Paavola (Intern)) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:29:16 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Templates with attributes Message-ID: Hi, I'm a total newbie when it comes to MoinMoin, but I've used and maintained MediaWiki sites quite much. I'm now trying to create templates that would use attributes and the Help on Templates page ( http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnTemplates ) isn't too helpful. Is that possible at all, if it is, how? What I'm trying to do, is to create a certain template that would contain a table. I'd like to change some of the content of that table by just giving some attributes when I'm calling the template. Thanks, Harri From tim.bird at am.sony.com Thu May 10 17:53:51 2007 From: tim.bird at am.sony.com (Tim Bird) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:53:51 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Templates with attributes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4643946F.8020507@am.sony.com> Harri Paavola (Intern) wrote: > Hi, > > I'm a total newbie when it comes to MoinMoin, but I've used and maintained > MediaWiki sites quite much. > > I'm now trying to create templates that would use attributes and the Help on > Templates page ( http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnTemplates ) isn't too > helpful. Is that possible at all, if it is, how? > > What I'm trying to do, is to create a certain template that would contain a > table. I'd like to change some of the content of that table by just giving > some attributes when I'm calling the template. I'm not sure I'm following your request. A template in MoinMoin is really just a page that ends with the word "Template". All it does is provide starting content (instead of a blank page), when you do a page creation (and the user selects it from the list of templates on the page creation dialog. You don't really "call" a template. It is only copied once, when the page is created. Attributes, in wiki terminology, are those things you put in a table to control formatting. I'm not sure if you want to change these on page creation? A variable is something that will expand into another bit of text when a page is saved. See http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnVariables You can put variables on a template, and they will expand when the template is saved (the first time) as a page. You can create your own variables, so that a user (maybe only yourself, I haven't played with variables very much) could choose from a bunch of different variables when they are presented with the first edit of the page. This would allow them to insert lots of longer phrases or items onto the page, without having to type everything. E.g. '@red@' could expand to '', if you wanted to make it easier to have people set the table attributes on page creation. I think. As I say, I haven't played with variables myself. -- Tim ============================= Tim Bird Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Electronics ============================= From jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org Thu May 10 18:47:51 2007 From: jean-philippe.guerard at tigreraye.org (Jean-Philippe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=E9rard?=) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 00:47:51 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin used for porn spam publication In-Reply-To: <1178758640.17964.117.camel@tango.gfvhome.org> References: <20070509194718.GA10086@tigreraye.nulle.part> <1178740796.28852.31.camel@localhost> <20070509203949.GD20791@tigreraye.nulle.part> <1178758640.17964.117.camel@tango.gfvhome.org> Message-ID: <20070510224751.GA3192@tigreraye.nulle.part> Le 2007-05-10 00:57:20 +0000, George (Skip) VerDuin ?crivait : > > - There is no ACL defined to limit adding attachments. Write access > > gives you both the right to add attachments (if attachments are > > enabled) and to write text. Either you forbid attachment to > > everybody, either you enable attachment to all users with write > > access. > Your suggestion is worthy of *developer* analysis, but I suggest you > might not really "like" your modified access rule as much as you might > like a revert functionality added to attachments? A revert functionnality for attachment would be nice, but you would also need to be able to completely remove the image from the revision history. Otherwise, it would still be possible to access the image, which was the aim of the spammer. > > - The subscription feature act as an audit tool for the text being > > written. If somebody writes something that's not acceptable, I'm > > notified (as I'm subscribed to the whole wiki), and I can revert the > > page. There is no such audit tool for attachments. > This contains an idea that might be applicable to my site, perhaps your > site, if it were available (per developer priority). The ACL feature > might have a graded access rule - "publish" & "review". It is *NOT* my > role here to suggest moinmoin features, but to suggest how I might apply > the above idea to help me sleep... I can see two ACL entries that would de nice?: - An "attach" ACL entry, for trusted people. - An "offer" ACL entry, to enable people without attach access to submit an attachment for approval. > If I can jump to a conclusion, your present problem and my worry is over > material quality added to our wiki sites. In your case the material was > graphic contained in attachment, in my case it was text placed on a > reflector. In both cases there seems to be (almost) no automated > solution to content review *prior* to publishing the new material. Our > present tools require human intervention either always or never... > > Consider the user group as having a variety of permissions, some of > which would trigger the audit tool you suggest. Certainly you have > users who have developed trust and there is little reason to audit the > contributions from them - the "recent changes" might be adequate to > follow their work. Others like StepStep need to be culled from the > flock *before* they ruin your reputation. We have the lock-out tool > already... > > I'd like to suggest an administrator attribute on the user (ACL?) list > that would not in fact permit immediate publishing of the material > submitted but would create an email alert that there is material in a > "hold queue" for review prior to authorization to publish. You might > consider this a forward looking revert type feature? The original > remains as the published page, and the administrator has the option of > permitting the new page (and/or attachment) to be made visible to all. > YES - I have not thought thru all the implications for moinmoin, but > with all tools there is a give-and-take when dealing with authority > given to individuals. I like the openness and responsiveness of moin to > a trusted group of contributors and I would not like to detract from > that capability... > > So Jean-Philippe and Jim, does this approach seem sane and has the > concept been evaluated in the past? I think that would be very nice. I fact, I would need two additionnal features: - An ACL management of attachments (as described above - with an hold queue if possible). - Notification via e-mail subscriptions of attachments updates (if you're subscribed to a page, you get notification of attachments changes in addition to content changes). The minimal safe option would be: - An ACL entry "attach" to enable attachment used (that would therefore be distinct from write permission). - Notification of attachement update. That is, without the hold queue feature. That would be less open, but as safe as the first option. Thanks. -- Jean-Philippe Gu?rard http://tigreraye.org From tp at pfennigsolutions.de Thu May 10 19:26:52 2007 From: tp at pfennigsolutions.de (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 01:26:52 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4642DD54.2080409@pfennigsolutions.de> <46434185.4090100@pfennigsolutions.de> Message-ID: <4643AA3C.1080303@pfennigsolutions.de> Shawn Hill schrieb: > I am happy to help gather data and set priorities if it will help, I can go to the level of list a bug with reporduction steps. > This is a good start: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/GuiEditor From tom at Toms.NET Thu May 10 21:05:20 2007 From: tom at Toms.NET (Thomas Arthur Oehser) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:05:20 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] How a Theme.py could render WikiMarkup in page_footer2 ? Message-ID: <20070511010520.GB9877@Toms.NET> Hi, I'm working on a Theme, I need to achieve the effect of putting [[Include(SomePage)]] into page_footer2... really I want to be able to have _any_ WikiMarkup, including macros like Include(), in there... HTML isn't going to do. I guess I need to "Parser" and "Formatter" it? I've looked at MoinDev/CodeStructure, but still don't understand, really, and did not find examples of other Themes.py doing this... I'm starting with something like: html = [ ... self.emit_custom_html(self.cfg.page_footer_2) ... ] which works (for HTML in the config file... But I'm not really clear what to do next... Any help appreciated... -Thanks, -Tom -- May 4, 1970: Alison Krause, Jeffrey Miller, Sandra Scheuer, William Schroeder. From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Thu May 10 23:29:40 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 21:29:40 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Escaping characters in a URL Message-ID: <3130eec50705102029l720ccabfv71e4e86ba1bc4fd7@mail.gmail.com> Is there a way to escape characters in an internal URL? For example, an internal URL like Events?highlight=((YvonneSedillo)) gets turned into Events%3Fhighlight%3D%2528%2528YvonneSedillo%2529%2529 As a result, I get the "No Such Page" page. I can get the right URL by using the external URL, but don't want to do that. -- Gnarlie From jh at web.de Fri May 11 02:47:47 2007 From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:47:47 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] How a Theme.py could render WikiMarkup in page_footer2 ? In-Reply-To: <20070511010520.GB9877@Toms.NET> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 May 2007 21:05:20 -0400, Thomas Arthur Oehser wrote: >I guess I need to "Parser" and "Formatter" it? I've looked at >MoinDev/CodeStructure, but still don't understand, really, and >did not find examples of other Themes.py doing this... Look at the code of a macro that does this instead. I think FootNote is, and Include certainly is. Ciao, J?rgen From jh at web.de Fri May 11 02:49:45 2007 From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 08:49:45 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Escaping characters in a URL In-Reply-To: <3130eec50705102029l720ccabfv71e4e86ba1bc4fd7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 10 May 2007 21:29:40 -0600, Gnarlodious wrote: >Is there a way to escape characters in an internal URL? For example, >an internal URL like >Events?highlight=((YvonneSedillo)) >gets turned into >Events%3Fhighlight%3D%2528%2528YvonneSedillo%2529%2529 [:pageuri:text] or wiki:Self:... might work. Ciao, J?rgen From hpaavola at vmware.com Fri May 11 12:55:32 2007 From: hpaavola at vmware.com (Harri Paavola (Intern)) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 09:55:32 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Templates with attributes In-Reply-To: <4643946F.8020507@am.sony.com> References: <4643946F.8020507@am.sony.com> Message-ID: Tim Bird wrote: > All it does is provide starting content (instead of a blank page), > when you do a page creation (and the user selects it from the list > of templates on the page creation dialog. OK. I've misunderstood the meaning of templates in MoinMoin. Seems like I have to find another way to do this. Thanks for clearing that out, Tim. Harri From johan.kohler at gmail.com Mon May 14 03:12:24 2007 From: johan.kohler at gmail.com (Johan Kohler) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:12:24 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] PIM - recurring events Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to use Moin-Moin as a PIM. I have the Desktop Edition installed. Does anyone know whether it is possible to make recurring MonthCalendar entries, for example, every Thursday? Thanks, Johan -- http://voyager42.livejournal.com From Vicky at northwestern.edu Thu May 17 08:47:32 2007 From: Vicky at northwestern.edu (Roderick) Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 16:47:32 +0400 Subject: [Moin-user] Meds online - the most comfortable way to buy Message-ID: <001601c798a3$10326da0$041f8a9c@office> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: sovza_3.gif Type: image/gif Size: 4827 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jpw at creare.com Fri May 18 14:41:52 2007 From: jpw at creare.com (John P. Wilson) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:41:52 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] Setup MoinMoin under Tomcat Message-ID: <2226B8C50B866D45AA0F359B2A59056F57F30B@athena.creare.com> I have setup MoinMoin under a Tomcat server and was wondering if anyone else uses MoinMoin under Tomcat? I have searched for info/links on doing this but got absolutely nothing. For people familiar with this configuration, one thing I'd like to know about: how can MoinMoin share account info with Tomcat? For instance, if user "joe_blow" logs into Tomcat, how can MoinMoin know what permissions "joe_blow" has (read, edit, etc.). Many thanks, John P. Wilson Creare Inc. P.O. Box 71 Hanover, NH 03755 603-640-2474 Fax 603-643-4657 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tw-public at gmx.de Mon May 21 05:59:12 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 11:59:12 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Setup MoinMoin under Tomcat In-Reply-To: <2226B8C50B866D45AA0F359B2A59056F57F30B@athena.creare.com> References: <2226B8C50B866D45AA0F359B2A59056F57F30B@athena.creare.com> Message-ID: <46516D70.2090207@gmx.de> > I have setup MoinMoin under a Tomcat server and was wondering if anyone > else uses MoinMoin under Tomcat? I have searched for info/links on > doing this but got absolutely nothing. Never used this setup - maybe create a page on the MoinMoin wiki site to share with other people. > For people familiar with this configuration, one thing I?d like to know > about: how can MoinMoin share account info with Tomcat? For instance, > if user ?joe_blow? logs into Tomcat, how can MoinMoin know what > permissions ?joe_blow? has (read, edit, etc.). Is this standard http basic auth or what does it mean to "log into tomcat"? MoinMoin has a configurable auth function (e.g. for http basic auth) and you can even write your own auth function if you don't find anything matching. From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Tue May 22 05:15:13 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 11:15:13 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] wiki farming and mod_python for multi lingual sites Message-ID: Hi, i am going to setup several wiki's to share info on programs we use. This needs to be done in 2 languages. First, it tested Apache + mod_python + virtual hosts and i got that to work. I had a site like programname.mydomain.com. To go multilingual, i could use something like lang1.programname.mydomain.com and lang2.programname.mydomain.com. Then i read something on farming and it seemed like this is better suited for multilingual sites. I can get farming to work with ScriptAlias but i would want to be able to use mod_python and urls like before lang1.programname.mydomain.com. Is it possible to have wiki farming and still use mod_python (and the urls as specified above)? Thanks Benedict From rickvanderveer at yahoo.com Tue May 22 09:36:42 2007 From: rickvanderveer at yahoo.com (Rick VanDerveer) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 06:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Free James Brown (not valid with any other offer) Message-ID: <809865.53215.qm@web50904.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Yes, this is absolutely possible. I don't think there is a really clear set of instructions for doing this yet, but I was able to get it working using the examples on this page (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FarmQuestions). As someone commented at the top of that page, someone should take a moment to refactor that page a little bit-- It's something I'd like to do, but haven't found the time yet. -Rick On May 22, 2007, at 4:15 AM, Benedict Verheyen wrote: Hi, i am going to setup several wiki's to share info on programs we use. This needs to be done in 2 languages. First, it tested Apache + mod_python + virtual hosts and i got that to work. I had a site like programname.mydomain.com. To go multilingual, i could use something like lang1.programname.mydomain.com and lang2.programname.mydomain.com. Then i read something on farming and it seemed like this is better suited for multilingual sites. I can get farming to work with ScriptAlias but i would want to be able to use mod_python and urls like before lang1.programname.mydomain.com. Is it possible to have wiki farming and still use mod_python (and the urls as specified above)? Thanks Benedict ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From rickvanderveer at yahoo.com Tue May 22 09:46:37 2007 From: rickvanderveer at yahoo.com (Rick VanDerveer) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 06:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] wiki farming and mod_python for multi lingual sites Message-ID: <626269.63419.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> LOL! Ok, I was toying with Yahoo's "Random Subject Generator" and I guess I forgot to change it! Sorry about that, probably looked like spam to most of you. I got a chuckle out of it, tho... :-) -Rick ----- Original Message ---- From: Rick VanDerveer To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:36:42 AM Subject: Free James Brown (not valid with any other offer) Yes, this is absolutely possible. I don't think there is a really clear set of instructions for doing this yet, but I was able to get it working using the examples on this page (http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FarmQuestions). As someone commented at the top of that page, someone should take a moment to refactor that page a little bit-- It's something I'd like to do, but haven't found the time yet. -Rick On May 22, 2007, at 4:15 AM, Benedict Verheyen wrote: Hi, i am going to setup several wiki's to share info on programs we use. This needs to be done in 2 languages. First, it tested Apache + mod_python + virtual hosts and i got that to work. I had a site like programname.mydomain.com. To go multilingual, i could use something like lang1.programname.mydomain.com and lang2.programname.mydomain.com. Then i read something on farming and it seemed like this is better suited for multilingual sites. I can get farming to work with ScriptAlias but i would want to be able to use mod_python and urls like before lang1.programname.mydomain.com. Is it possible to have wiki farming and still use mod_python (and the urls as specified above)? Thanks Benedict ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php ____________________________________________________________________________________Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From jh at web.de Tue May 22 14:54:16 2007 From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 20:54:16 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] wiki farming and mod_python for multi lingual sites In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 22 May 2007 11:15:13 +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: >Is it possible to have wiki farming and still use mod_python (and the >urls as specified above)? Just use mod_rewrite to grab the instance id from the domain and beam it into the uri. Then you have the current scheme on the inside and the old scheme on the outside. Ciao, J?rgen From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Wed May 23 03:46:36 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 09:46:36 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] wiki farming and mod_python for multi lingual sites (SOLVED) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Benedict Verheyen schreef: Hi, i'm still testing but i think this setup works concerning farming with mod_python. I installed moin moin with the prefix C:\moin Sites located in E:/Sites/wikifarm. Versions: * Python 2.5.1 * MoinMoin 1.5.8 * mod_python 3.3.1 * Apache 2.2.4 Layout: E:/Sites/wikifarm |_ bin |_ config |_ farmconfig.py |_ wiki1.py |_ wiki2.py |_ underlay \_pages |_ wikis \_ wiki1 \_ data \_ wiki2 \_ data In httpd.conf: # Enable mod_python LoadModule python_module modules/mod_python.so DocumentRoot "E:/Sites/wikifarm" Alias /wikifarm "C:/moin/share/moin/htdocs" SetHandler python-program # Add the path of your wiki directory PythonPath "[ 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/config','C:/moin/lib/site-packages'] + sys.path" PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run PythonDebug On SetHandler python-program # Add the path of your wiki directory PythonPath "[ 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/config','C:/moin/lib/site-packages'] + sys.path" PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run PythonDebug On farmconfig.py wikis = [ ("wiki1", r"^wikis.intranet.local/wiki1.*$"), ("wiki2", r"^wikis.intranet.local/wiki2.*$"), ] data_dir = './data/' data_underlay_dir = 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/underlay/' url_prefix = '/wikifarm' wiki1.py from farmconfig import FarmConfig class Config(FarmConfig): sitename = u'Wiki 1' # [Unicode] interwikiname = 'WikiOne' page_front_page = u"FrontPage" data_dir = 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/wikis/wiki1/data' wiki2.py from farmconfig import FarmConfig class Config(FarmConfig): sitename = u'Wiki 2' # [Unicode] interwikiname = 'WikiTwo' page_front_page = u"FrontPage" data_dir = 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/wikis/wiki2/data' Regards, Benedict From tspradhan at gmail.com Wed May 23 11:56:39 2007 From: tspradhan at gmail.com (Tushar Pradhan) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 10:56:39 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Installation Message-ID: <5ce9c220705230856t36cfac35mf57296ff6b87c65c@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am trying to install MoinMoinWiki on a server, I went thru the installation steps mentioned on the installation help. I trying to setup MoinMoinWiki on Apache and Python. I guess the installation is done but when I try to run the site it gives me the following message Forbidden You don't have permission to access /MyWiki on this server. Please let me know how to fix this problem.. Thanks in advance TP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Thu May 24 10:37:15 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:37:15 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] wiki farming and mod_python for multi lingual sites (SOLVED) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Benedict Verheyen schreef: > Benedict Verheyen schreef: > > > Hi, > > > i'm still testing but i think this setup works concerning > farming with mod_python. > > I installed moin moin with the prefix C:\moin > Sites located in E:/Sites/wikifarm. > Versions: > * Python 2.5.1 > * MoinMoin 1.5.8 > * mod_python 3.3.1 > * Apache 2.2.4 > > Layout: > E:/Sites/wikifarm > |_ bin > |_ config > |_ farmconfig.py > |_ wiki1.py > |_ wiki2.py > |_ underlay > \_pages > |_ wikis > \_ wiki1 > \_ data > \_ wiki2 > \_ data > > In httpd.conf: > # Enable mod_python > LoadModule python_module modules/mod_python.so > > DocumentRoot "E:/Sites/wikifarm" > Alias /wikifarm "C:/moin/share/moin/htdocs" > > > SetHandler python-program > # Add the path of your wiki directory > PythonPath "[ > 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/config','C:/moin/lib/site-packages'] + sys.path" > PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run > PythonDebug On > > > > SetHandler python-program > # Add the path of your wiki directory > PythonPath "[ > 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/config','C:/moin/lib/site-packages'] + sys.path" > PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run > PythonDebug On > > > > farmconfig.py > wikis = [ > ("wiki1", r"^wikis.intranet.local/wiki1.*$"), > ("wiki2", r"^wikis.intranet.local/wiki2.*$"), > ] > data_dir = './data/' > data_underlay_dir = 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/underlay/' > url_prefix = '/wikifarm' > > > wiki1.py > from farmconfig import FarmConfig > class Config(FarmConfig): > sitename = u'Wiki 1' # [Unicode] > interwikiname = 'WikiOne' > page_front_page = u"FrontPage" > data_dir = 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/wikis/wiki1/data' > > > wiki2.py > from farmconfig import FarmConfig > class Config(FarmConfig): > sitename = u'Wiki 2' # [Unicode] > interwikiname = 'WikiTwo' > page_front_page = u"FrontPage" > data_dir = 'E:/Sites/wikifarm/wikis/wiki2/data' > > Regards, > Benedict One little issue that i'm trying to find out is that if i enable virtual hosts in my Apache config, then the wiki doesn't find it's static files (jpg's, css and so on) anymore. Without the virtual host, it's fine. The only virtual host config i have is from a django site i also have on this server. Seems rather strange to me. ServerName djangoprogram SetEnv DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE djangoprogram.settings SetHandler mod_python PythonHandler django.core.handlers.modpython PythonPath "[r'E:\Sites\sitesdjango', r'E:\Sites\sitesdjango\djangoprogram'] + sys.path" PythonDebug On Alias /media "E:/Sites/sitesdjango/djangoprogram/media" SetHandler None I haven't found yet what causes this. Regards, Benedict From tw-public at gmx.de Thu May 24 12:57:29 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 18:57:29 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] moinmo.in Message-ID: <4655C3F9.1080201@gmx.de> ... is a shiny new domain pointing at the moinmoin wiki site. :) See: http://moinmo.in/ ".in" is India. Before someone asks: No, we didn't outsource development or server to india, we just liked that nice domain name. From george at galis.org Thu May 24 17:53:00 2007 From: george at galis.org (George Georgalis) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 17:53:00 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] import another wiki dump Message-ID: <20070524215300.GB18056@run.galis.org> Hi! I'm bringing over wiki content from another wiki, each page is a file of wiki source. The wiki source is close enough that I can work that out; but I'm not sure how to import the content. I don't know moin internals other than apache setup, what is the most direct way to import content? // George -- George Georgalis, information systems scientist < From tim.bird at am.sony.com Thu May 24 19:57:16 2007 From: tim.bird at am.sony.com (Tim Bird) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:57:16 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] import another wiki dump In-Reply-To: <20070524215300.GB18056@run.galis.org> References: <20070524215300.GB18056@run.galis.org> Message-ID: <4656265C.4060503@am.sony.com> George Georgalis wrote: > Hi! I'm bringing over wiki content from another > wiki, each page is a file of wiki source. > > The wiki source is close enough that I can work that > out; but I'm not sure how to import the content. > > I don't know moin internals other than apache setup, > what is the most direct way to import content? I have a pair of scripts I use for downloading all the content from one MoinMoin wiki and placing it in another. They are very simple, and allow you to slurp the content of a wiki without requiring any special privileges (they just use http access). I'll attach them here in case anyone's interested. FYI - I use this to copy a wiki onto a laptop to take on trips. It doesn't get attachments, however. The outline is as follows: * use wget to get the title index into /tmp/title_index * for each line in the title index, get the page using getpage.sh * in getpage.sh, download the raw page text directly into the tempwiki page directory * remove the temporary title_index file Undoubtedly there is a simple way to make this a single script with a for loop or something instead of xargs, but I was lazy and it worked. Note that this is for an older MoinMoin setup. Adjust the wiki URLs and output path accordingly. --------------- getwiki.sh ---------------- #!/bin/sh wget http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/TitleIndex?action=titleindex -O /tmp/title_index cat /tmp/title_index | xargs -n 1 /home/tbird/bin/getpage.sh rm /tmp/title_index --------------- getpage.sh ----------------- #!/bin/sh wget http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/$1?action=raw -O /home/tbird/tempwiki/data/text/$1 -------------------------------------------- Regards, -- Tim ============================= Tim Bird Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Electronics ============================= From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Fri May 25 05:00:04 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 03:00:04 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] moinmo.in In-Reply-To: <4655C3F9.1080201@gmx.de> References: <4655C3F9.1080201@gmx.de> Message-ID: <3130eec50705250200o11edf285k57d2a9dea3e5a54@mail.gmail.com> On 5/24/07, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > See: http://moinmo.in/ Very clever. Will that be in addition to the usual domain? Or will both be consolidated to the new one? -- Gnarlie http://Gnarlodious.com/ From george at galis.org Fri May 25 10:21:58 2007 From: george at galis.org (George Georgalis) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:21:58 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] import another wiki dump In-Reply-To: <4656265C.4060503@am.sony.com> References: <20070524215300.GB18056@run.galis.org> <4656265C.4060503@am.sony.com> Message-ID: <20070525142158.GC18056@run.galis.org> On Thu, May 24, 2007 at 04:57:16PM -0700, Tim Bird wrote: >George Georgalis wrote: >> Hi! I'm bringing over wiki content from another >> wiki, each page is a file of wiki source. >> >> The wiki source is close enough that I can work that >> out; but I'm not sure how to import the content. >> >> I don't know moin internals other than apache setup, >> what is the most direct way to import content? > >I have a pair of scripts I use for downloading all >the content from one MoinMoin wiki and placing it in >another. Weird, it looks like your moin wiki content structure is different than mine.... >--------------- getwiki.sh ---------------- >#!/bin/sh > >wget http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/TitleIndex?action=titleindex -O /tmp/title_index > >cat /tmp/title_index | xargs -n 1 /home/tbird/bin/getpage.sh > >rm /tmp/title_index > >--------------- getpage.sh ----------------- >#!/bin/sh > >wget http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/$1?action=raw -O /home/tbird/tempwiki/data/text/$1 > >-------------------------------------------- anyway, this command-line gets me there. n=00000001; for f in trac.dump/* ; do a=$(basename $f); mkdir -p pages/$a/revisions ; echo $n >pages/$a/current ; cat trac.dump/$a >pages/$a/revisions/$n ; chmod -R ug+rwX pages/$a ; chgrp -R www pages/$a ;done after copying the dump, I run this in moin data directory. Thanks, // George -- George Georgalis, information systems scientist < From soloturn at gmail.com Sat May 26 09:13:26 2007 From: soloturn at gmail.com (solo turn) Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 15:13:26 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] FCK Editor In-Reply-To: <4643AA3C.1080303@pfennigsolutions.de> References: <1178645643.8196.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4642DD54.2080409@pfennigsolutions.de> <46434185.4090100@pfennigsolutions.de> <4643AA3C.1080303@pfennigsolutions.de> Message-ID: the most important thing and a big mess in wiki syntax is entering tables. fck is such a relief in this. -solo On 5/11/07, Thilo Pfennig wrote: > Shawn Hill schrieb: > > I am happy to help gather data and set priorities if it will help, I can go to the level of list a bug with reporduction steps. > > > This is a good start: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/GuiEditor > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From george at galis.org Sun May 27 02:54:01 2007 From: george at galis.org (George Georgalis) Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 02:54:01 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] not a farm or.... Message-ID: <20070527065401.GC29266@run.galis.org> Humm, I didn't set out to make a moin farm... but in my apache VirtualHost config, I have SetHandler python-program PythonPath "['/usr/local/www/vhost/dom.org/moin/main'] + sys.path" PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run SetHandler python-program PythonPath "['/usr/local/www/vhost/dom.org/moin/board'] + sys.path" PythonHandler MoinMoin.request::RequestModPy.run and in each the respective moin install directories I have out of the box wikiconfig.py files. :-( so, I know the problem of using mod_python in this context... but I was wondering if/how I could put the the wikis list of pairs in the respective wikiconfig.py? // George -- George Georgalis, information systems scientist < From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Mon May 28 10:37:54 2007 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:37:54 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Installation In-Reply-To: <5ce9c220705230856t36cfac35mf57296ff6b87c65c@mail.gmail.com> References: <5ce9c220705230856t36cfac35mf57296ff6b87c65c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4459f0d30705280737h793d54e7nff58ebbe363a2bce@mail.gmail.com> Hello Tushar. > I am trying to install MoinMoinWiki on a server, [...] I guess the installation is done but when I try to run the site it gives me the following message > > > Forbidden > > You don't have permission to access /MyWiki on this server. Please let me > know how to fix this problem.. You should not use MyWiki as dir/name. Did you try the moin test? What is it's result? Regards... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. http://simplementewiki.org http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/ From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Tue May 29 03:03:57 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:03:57 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] form Message-ID: Hi, i made a search macro and it works. Now i need a form to provide the search word but it's not clear on how i can make a form and link that to the macro or do i need an action for that? Thanks, Benedict From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Tue May 29 03:51:42 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:51:42 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] form In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Benedict Verheyen schreef: > Hi, > > > i made a search macro and it works. Now i need a form to provide > the search word but it's not clear on how i can make a form and link > that to the macro or do i need an action for that? > > Thanks, > Benedict I found an example of a search that implemented it's own search form: def searchbox(self): """ Make a search box (taken from wikimacro.py) @rtype: unicode @return: search box html fragment """ _ = self._ if self.form.has_key('value'): default = wikiutil.escape(self.form["value"][0], quote=1) else: default = '' button = _("Search Text") html = [ u'', ] html = u'\n'.join(html) return self.formatter.rawHTML(html) I then moved most of the code in my macro to an action and it works. Regards, Benedict From seb.haase at gmx.net Tue May 29 08:56:10 2007 From: seb.haase at gmx.net (Sebastian Haase) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 14:56:10 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] search attachments - status !? Message-ID: Hi, I'm trying to install and establish a moinmoin wiki in our lab for info / documents management. It would be awesome if PDF files (and Word files [Excel !?] ) could be searched from within the wiki. I found this info page: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo/ExtendedSearch/AttachmentSearch which, however, dates back to Aug 2004 (zuletzt ge?ndert am 2004-08-31 13:43:24 durch FlorianFesti) Also the provided patch is for version 1.3 - and I'm scared to try it on 1.5. Also I found this: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/SearchAttachments This is also more than a year old (2006-03-25 ReimarBauer) The last page refers to Lupy - which (at a different place) was commented on to be "not a good choice for moinmoin since it appeared not to be supported upstream "... Could someone summarize the current status on this topic !? Would it help - is it neccessary - to upgrade to the expermental (?) 1.6 version ? Thanks, Sebastian Haase From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Tue May 29 10:13:14 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:13:14 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] search attachments - status !? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sebastian Haase schreef: > Hi, > I'm trying to install and establish a moinmoin wiki in our lab for > info / documents management. > It would be awesome if PDF files (and Word files [Excel !?] ) could be > searched from within the wiki. That would indeed be a great addition to a wiki. Although it does sound more like an extension than a core wiki feature? Regards, Benedict From seb.haase at gmx.net Tue May 29 11:26:35 2007 From: seb.haase at gmx.net (Sebastian Haase) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:26:35 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] search attachments - status !? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just for the record, there is also: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/Thomas_Renard/AttSearchTool (last change 2004-08-29 ---- 2nd to last change: 2003-07-14) Many search options are discussed here: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo/ExtendedSearch (last changed 2006-03-24) -Sebastian On 5/29/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > Hi, > I'm trying to install and establish a moinmoin wiki in our lab for > info / documents management. > It would be awesome if PDF files (and Word files [Excel !?] ) could be > searched from within the wiki. > > I found this info page: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo/ExtendedSearch/AttachmentSearch > which, however, dates back to Aug 2004 (zuletzt ge?ndert am 2004-08-31 > 13:43:24 durch FlorianFesti) > Also the provided patch is for version 1.3 - and I'm scared to try it on 1.5. > > Also I found this: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/SearchAttachments > This is also more than a year old (2006-03-25 ReimarBauer) > > The last page refers to Lupy - which (at a different place) was > commented on to be "not a good choice for moinmoin since it appeared > not to be supported upstream "... > > Could someone summarize the current status on this topic !? > Would it help - is it neccessary - to upgrade to the expermental (?) > 1.6 version ? > > Thanks, > Sebastian Haase > From xmav000 at yahoo.de Tue May 29 12:00:07 2007 From: xmav000 at yahoo.de (Matthias Berg) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:00:07 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Moin-user] applets in moinmoin wiki? Message-ID: <566307.64693.qm@web26005.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Hi, I would like to add an applet to my moinmoin wiki. I have created an applet for a message board. It does the following: you type "[xob]D3C5F6F5E6[/xob]" in the message board and it will put the following html code into the page. This will display the sequence of the game in an applet (similiar to a chess game applet). How do do that in the wiki? I tried to write the " From yzrider261 at gmail.com Tue May 29 13:28:39 2007 From: yzrider261 at gmail.com (bill ke) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 13:28:39 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] DocBook->wiki Message-ID: hi I was wondering if anyone as successfully converted a DocBook to a moimoin wiki format other then copying the html of the DocBook into moinmoin wiki. Thank you ~bill -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From franz.zieher at gmail.com Tue May 29 18:44:28 2007 From: franz.zieher at gmail.com (Franz Zieher) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 22:44:28 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Moin-user] Page cache when MonthCalendarTopList or RecentlyCreatedPages macro is used Message-ID: Dear All, I'm using the MothCalendar macro with the MonthCalendarTopList and the RecentlyCreatedPages macro (moinmoin 1.5.7). The caching of the page, where those macros are called, suppresses that the news or recently created pages are shown correctly. Is it possible to disable caching for individual pages in order to avoid that the macro output gets updated? Regards, Franz From barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk Tue May 29 19:06:31 2007 From: barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Barry Cornelius) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 00:06:31 +0100 (BST) Subject: [Moin-user] Page cache when MonthCalendarTopList or RecentlyCreatedPages macro is used In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 May 2007, Franz Zieher wrote: > I'm using the MothCalendar macro with the MonthCalendarTopList and > the RecentlyCreatedPages macro (moinmoin 1.5.7). The caching of > the page, where those macros are called, suppresses that the news or > recently created pages are shown correctly. > Is it possible to disable caching for individual pages in order to avoid > that the macro output gets updated? Does the comment about setting Dependencies at the bottom of the following page help? http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/macro/FeedParser -- Barry Cornelius Computing Services, University of Oxford 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK barry.cornelius at oucs.ox.ac.uk Reception:273200 Fax:273275 http://www.barrycornelius.com 01865 273267 or +441865 273267 From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Tue May 29 20:46:19 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 18:46:19 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Page cache when MonthCalendarTopList or RecentlyCreatedPages macro is used In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3130eec50705291746k1a2a12c8r8b938aaf3cdde7ca@mail.gmail.com> On 5/29/07, Franz Zieher wrote: > RecentlyCreatedPages macro (moinmoin 1.5.7). I don't know about your question, but that macro creates hundreds of empty folders for me to clean up: ## [[RecentlyCreatedPages(numberOfPages=7,maxDaysOld=14)]] -- Gnarlie http://Gnarlodious.com From skip at pobox.com Wed May 30 13:54:42 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 17:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Moin-user] Can I #redirect outside the wiki? Message-ID: I moved some pages from one internal wiki to another. Is it possible to automatically redirect the old pages to the new using the #redirect processing instruction? I tried something like #redirect http://www.company.com/otherwiki/page/subpage but that was treated as an internal redirect and thus redirected to http://www.company.com/thiswiki/http%3a//www.company.com/otherwiki\ /page/subpage (or something similar but equally wrong). Thx, Skip Montanaro From cl at isbd.net Wed May 30 16:13:22 2007 From: cl at isbd.net (Chris G) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:13:22 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] What version to start with? Message-ID: <20070530201322.GC57087@newred.gradwell.net> I have just installed MoinMoin 1.5.8 to use as a personal wiki on my Slackware Linux box. I'm basically going to use it a a place to keep documentation, as a sort of PIM and things like that. I found installation pretty straightforward, thank you to all the documenters for providing the information in an easily accessible format. Before I write loads of pages etc. will I gain (or lose) much by going straight to version 1.6.x? Is there anywhere that documents the changes in the 1.6.x series when compared with 1.5.8, I had a look around http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de but couldn't find anything much about versions. -- Chris Green From cl at isbd.net Wed May 30 16:38:34 2007 From: cl at isbd.net (Chris G) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:38:34 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Which server to use for MoinMoin Message-ID: <20070530203834.GD57087@newred.gradwell.net> I was going to put this as another question in my first mail but decided a separate thread would be easier. I'm aiming to use MoinMoin as a place to keep documentation, some diary type stuff, etc. on my home Slackware system. Currently I'm just using the moin.py server on port 8000 to have a play. There seems to be quite a lot of choice as to what web server to use with MoinMoin. I think my situation is likely to be as follows:- One admin/editing user (me), I will almost certainly always be the only admin user, there's a small possibility I might want to add one or two family member editing users. Most use will be local home network subnet use (behind a router), I do have apache 1.3 running on the Slackware system and accessible from the outside world and would like read access to at least some of the MoinMoin pages to the outside. Performance is not really a big issue, my Slackware box is quite fast (Core 2 Duo, 2Gb memory) but fast response to editing requests does make the wiki much more friendly when one does a lot of editing. At present I *think* I'm going to go for a few separate wikis rather than one big one, does this push towards using my apache server or is it easy to run multiple moin.py servers on different ports? Can the moin.py server do 'outside' access and/or would it be sensible? I *think* I'm persuading myself that using apache would be the sensible option but I'm willing to change my mind. If I do that will I see a noticeable improvement in the speed of editing etc. if I install mod_python or would that only make sense if my wiki became a high traffic site? -- Chris Green From tw-public at gmx.de Wed May 30 16:39:08 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:39:08 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] What version to start with? In-Reply-To: <20070530201322.GC57087@newred.gradwell.net> References: <20070530201322.GC57087@newred.gradwell.net> Message-ID: <465DE0EC.3010806@gmx.de> > Before I write loads of pages etc. will I gain (or lose) much by going > straight to version 1.6.x? If you run a single and simple notebook pim wiki, I guess it will make no big difference. Besides many smaller changes, the main features of 1.6 are xapian indexed search, wiki sync and mail import. > Is there anywhere that documents the > changes in the 1.6.x series when compared with 1.5.8, I had a look > around http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de but couldn't find anything much > about versions. See the repo: http://hg.thinkmo.de/moin/1.6/file/tip/docs/CHANGES If you want to try, see the bz2 link in the repo gui. From tw-public at gmx.de Wed May 30 16:49:22 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:49:22 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Which server to use for MoinMoin In-Reply-To: <20070530203834.GD57087@newred.gradwell.net> References: <20070530203834.GD57087@newred.gradwell.net> Message-ID: <465DE352.1030609@gmx.de> > I'm aiming to use MoinMoin as a place to keep documentation, some > diary type stuff, etc. on my home Slackware system. Currently I'm > just using the moin.py server on port 8000 to have a play. This is what moin.py aka "the standalone server" was made for. > There seems to be quite a lot of choice as to what web server to use > with MoinMoin. I think my situation is likely to be as follows:- > > One admin/editing user (me), I will almost certainly always be the > only admin user, there's a small possibility I might want to add > one or two family member editing users. This has nothing to do with the server type. Except if you want to add 1000 users, then moin.py is not the right thing. :) > Most use will be local home network subnet use (behind a router), > I do have apache 1.3 running on the Slackware system and > accessible from the outside world and would like read access to at > least some of the MoinMoin pages to the outside. If you don't want to expose port 8000 to the outside, you can run cgi, but it will be slower. Otherwise try proxying moin.py with apache. Proxying will be faster, but might have some cosmetic issues (for moin, everything comes from localhost). > At present I *think* I'm going to go for a few separate wikis rather > than one big one, does this push towards using my apache server or is > it easy to run multiple moin.py servers on different ports? Can the > moin.py server do 'outside' access and/or would it be sensible? You don't need multiple servers to run multiple wikis, just use a farmconfig.py. > I *think* I'm persuading myself that using apache would be the > sensible option but I'm willing to change my mind. If I do that will > I see a noticeable improvement in the speed of editing etc. CGI: much slower FastCGI: a bit faster maybe (not sure if you'll notice the difference with 1 or few users) > if I install mod_python Don't use mod_python if you are not searching for trouble. From tw-public at gmx.de Wed May 30 16:50:21 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:50:21 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] What version to start with? In-Reply-To: <465DE0EC.3010806@gmx.de> References: <20070530201322.GC57087@newred.gradwell.net> <465DE0EC.3010806@gmx.de> Message-ID: <465DE38D.6030408@gmx.de> BTW, we are on #moin on chat.freenode.net IRC server. From cl at isbd.net Wed May 30 17:14:23 2007 From: cl at isbd.net (Chris G) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:14:23 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] What version to start with? In-Reply-To: <465DE0EC.3010806@gmx.de> References: <20070530201322.GC57087@newred.gradwell.net> <465DE0EC.3010806@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20070530211423.GE57087@newred.gradwell.net> On Wed, May 30, 2007 at 10:39:08PM +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > Before I write loads of pages etc. will I gain (or lose) much by going > > straight to version 1.6.x? > > If you run a single and simple notebook pim wiki, I guess it will make > no big difference. > > Besides many smaller changes, the main features of 1.6 are xapian > indexed search, wiki sync and mail import. > > > Is there anywhere that documents the > > changes in the 1.6.x series when compared with 1.5.8, I had a look > > around http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de but couldn't find anything much > > about versions. > > See the repo: > > http://hg.thinkmo.de/moin/1.6/file/tip/docs/CHANGES > > If you want to try, see the bz2 link in the repo gui. > Thanks for the helpful reply, I'll stay with 1.5.8 I think, I don't want to be too adventurous! :-) -- Chris Green From cl at isbd.net Wed May 30 18:01:33 2007 From: cl at isbd.net (Chris G) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 23:01:33 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Help with farmconfig.py Message-ID: <20070530220133.GG57087@newred.gradwell.net> Hmmm, I'm trying to set up multiple MoinMoin wikis using farmconfig.py and I've got a bit lost. I got a single wiki running fine using moin.py, so what do I actually need to to to get multiple wikis? It's not quite clear from the documentation at:- http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnInstalling how to set up the directories. At the moment I have set up a directory (called moinmoin) that has the following in it:- -rw-r--r-- 1 chris users 7016 2007-05-30 22:54 farmconfig.py -rw-rw---- 1 chris users 1616 2007-05-30 22:54 farmconfig.pyc drwxr-xr-x 3 chris users 4096 2007-05-30 22:41 jobs -rwxr-xr-x 1 chris users 3243 2007-05-30 20:13 moin.py drwxr-xr-x 2 chris users 4096 2007-05-30 22:41 mointest drwxrwx--- 3 chris web 4096 2007-05-30 19:27 underlay -rw-rw---- 1 chris web 5857 2007-05-30 20:18 wikiconfig.py -rw-rw---- 1 chris users 1721 2007-05-30 20:18 wikiconfig.pyc In farmconfig.py I have:- wikis = [ ("jobs", r"^localhost:8000/jobs/.*$"), ("mointest", r"^localhost:8000/mointest/.*$"), ] The jobs directory and the mointest directory have my original working single MoinMoin installation (i.e. data and underlay directories). Running moin.py works as before but trying to go to either of the above URLs just get the response "No wiki configuration matching the URL found!". I suspect I just have the layout wrong but I'm not at all clear where. -- Chris Green From franz.zieher at gmail.com Wed May 30 17:41:44 2007 From: franz.zieher at gmail.com (Franz Zieher) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Moin-user] Page cache when MonthCalendarTopList or RecentlyCreatedPages macro is used References: Message-ID: Barry Cornelius oucs.ox.ac.uk> writes: > > On Tue, 29 May 2007, Franz Zieher wrote: > > I'm using the MothCalendar macro with the MonthCalendarTopList and > > the RecentlyCreatedPages macro (moinmoin 1.5.7). The caching of > > the page, where those macros are called, suppresses that the news or > > recently created pages are shown correctly. > > Is it possible to disable caching for individual pages in order to avoid > > that the macro output gets updated? > > Does the comment about setting Dependencies at the bottom of the following > page help? > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/macro/FeedParser > > -- > Barry Cornelius Computing Services, University of Oxford > 13 Banbury Road, Oxford, OX2 6NN, UK > barry.cornelius oucs.ox.ac.uk Reception:273200 Fax:273275 > http://www.barrycornelius.com 01865 273267 or +441865 273267 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > Both macros have Dependencies = ['namespace'] defined, which should avoid caching(?). I didn't mention, that I'm using it together with the Frame parser and this creates the problem. When putting for example the recently created pages in a Frame section like the following {{{#!Frame align=float:right == News == [[MonthCalendarTopList(10)]] == Recently created pages == [[RecentlyCreatedPages(5)]] }}} on a page, then the output from the macros don't get updated. Actually, when I was looking up the documentation on ParserMarket/Frame it says at the end of the page: it does not solve Dependencies of an macro call e.g. time for Hits -- Could someone give an example of this? -- SteveDavison 2007-01-23 02:05:07 For Hits or dependencies not solved if cache is enabeld? -- ReimarBauer 2007-01-23 10:38:00 It was obviously not fixed yet :( Franz From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed May 30 23:26:59 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 21:26:59 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Can I #redirect outside the wiki? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3130eec50705302026m730396e2j1c6af0da63b2facd@mail.gmail.com> You would need to use an Apache rewrite to do that. For example, I would put this in my .htaccess page in the Scripts folder: Options +FollowSymLinks RewriteEngine On RewriteRule ^(\.*)$ http://Gnarlodious\.com/$1 [R=301] This would rewrite the requested URL to another domain while preserving the rest of the URL. -- Gnarlie On 5/30/07, Skip Montanaro wrote: > I moved some pages from one internal wiki to another. Is it possible > to automatically redirect the old pages to the new using the > #redirect processing instruction? I tried something like > > #redirect http://www.company.com/otherwiki/page/subpage > > but that was treated as an internal redirect and thus redirected to > > http://www.company.com/thiswiki/http%3a//www.company.com/otherwiki\ > /page/subpage > > (or something similar but equally wrong). > > Thx, > > Skip Montanaro > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Thu May 31 02:55:00 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:55:00 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Help with farmconfig.py In-Reply-To: <20070530220133.GG57087@newred.gradwell.net> References: <20070530220133.GG57087@newred.gradwell.net> Message-ID: Chris G schreef: You might want to have a look at http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FarmQuestions I used it to setup my wiki farm. Regards, Benedict From benedict.verheyen at gmail.com Thu May 31 03:12:52 2007 From: benedict.verheyen at gmail.com (Benedict Verheyen) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 09:12:52 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] sharing groups Message-ID: Hi, it's pretty easy to share users in a wiki farm. Is it also possible for groups or do you have to make the group pages on every wiki in the farm? Thanks, Benedict From cl at isbd.net Thu May 31 06:40:45 2007 From: cl at isbd.net (Chris G) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 11:40:45 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Help with farmconfig.py In-Reply-To: References: <20070530220133.GG57087@newred.gradwell.net> Message-ID: <20070531104045.GI57087@newred.gradwell.net> On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 08:55:00AM +0200, Benedict Verheyen wrote: > Chris G schreef: > > > You might want to have a look at > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FarmQuestions > I used it to setup my wiki farm. > Thanks, that looks like what I need, the directory structure isn't clear at all from the other bits of documentation. -- Chris Green From skip at pobox.com Thu May 31 09:38:56 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Moin-user] Can I #redirect outside the wiki? References: <3130eec50705302026m730396e2j1c6af0da63b2facd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >> I moved some pages from one internal wiki to another. Is it >> possible to automatically redirect the old pages to the new >> using the #redirect processing instruction? Gnarlie> You would need to use an Apache rewrite to do that. For Gnarlie> example, I would put this in my .htaccess page in the Gnarlie> Scripts folder: ... Thanks, I'm aware of how to do this in Apache. I would like to allow users to do this from within MoinMoin on a page-by-page basis though. Most of them don't know how to sling Apache config directives. If they need to migrate a page from one wiki to another I think it would be easier if they could just add the #redirect to the old location. (Yes, I'm aware of the security implications. Both these wikis are internal to our company and not visible to the outside world. I would be happy if there was an allow_general_redirects which defaulted to False and required me to explicitly enable it.) Skip From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Thu May 31 21:47:45 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:47:45 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Intercept nonexistent page requests... Message-ID: <3130eec50705311847y58daaae3id4c0aa267bb1058c@mail.gmail.com> Is it possible to serve up a "nonexistent page" error for non-logged users rather than the "create a page" page? Or else redirect the request to an existing page? This way only logged in users could create a page, which is already the case. -- Gnarlie