From pavel.laskov at first.fraunhofer.de Mon Jul 2 11:20:56 2007 From: pavel.laskov at first.fraunhofer.de (Pavel Laskov) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:20:56 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing a default action on a page Message-ID: <468917D8.60302@first.fraunhofer.de> Hi, Is there a way to change a default action on a page? For example, I would like to require a login action on a front page. Unfortunately setting page_front_page = 'MyPage?action=login' in a configudation file does not bring the desired result. Is there a clean way to achieve this? With best regards, -- +------------------------------------------------------+ Pavel Laskov, Ph.D. _/ _ _/__ Fraunhofer Institut FIRST IDA /~\ / / Kekulestr. 7, 12489 Berlin ~\_/<_/ |\ / email: laskov at first.fhg.de \ \/| tel: +49 30 6392 1870 |\_\/ fax: +49 30 6392 1805 \/ / http://ida.first.fhg.de/~laskov/ \/ +------------------------------------------------------+ From darver at vmware.com Mon Jul 2 14:15:12 2007 From: darver at vmware.com (Dexter Arver) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:15:12 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing a default action on a page In-Reply-To: <468917D8.60302@first.fraunhofer.de> References: <468917D8.60302@first.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <9FB613FEE8910A40AAF74D00E11DA46E581AB0@PA-EXCH01.vmware.com> I did what you were trying to do by modifying MoinMoin/Page.py. Basically, just inject an html form like this (around line 1248) : " loginform = '''
Name
Password
''' request.write(loginform) " Hope that helps! -Dexter -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Pavel Laskov Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 8:21 AM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Changing a default action on a page Hi, Is there a way to change a default action on a page? For example, I would like to require a login action on a front page. Unfortunately setting page_front_page = 'MyPage?action=login' in a configudation file does not bring the desired result. Is there a clean way to achieve this? With best regards, -- +------------------------------------------------------+ Pavel Laskov, Ph.D. _/ _ _/__ Fraunhofer Institut FIRST IDA /~\ / / Kekulestr. 7, 12489 Berlin ~\_/<_/ |\ / email: laskov at first.fhg.de \ \/| tel: +49 30 6392 1870 |\_\/ fax: +49 30 6392 1805 \/ / http://ida.first.fhg.de/~laskov/ \/ +------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From rvandolson at esri.com Mon Jul 2 14:46:46 2007 From: rvandolson at esri.com (Ray Van Dolson) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 11:46:46 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Populating groups from external source? Message-ID: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> Hi all, I'd like to use an external source (LDAP-based) for defining membership in groups vs creating and updating a Group page separately. Are there any plugins out there or an existing configuration that can be made to do this? Any solutions on the horizon? Thanks, Ray From tw-public at gmx.de Tue Jul 3 03:13:27 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:13:27 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing a default action on a page In-Reply-To: <468917D8.60302@first.fraunhofer.de> References: <468917D8.60302@first.fraunhofer.de> Message-ID: <1183446808.6702.1.camel@black> > page_front_page = 'MyPage?action=login' This does not work. > in a configudation file does not bring the desired result. Is there a > clean way to achieve this? Maybe you can just use the [[Login]] macro on you front page. It is included in 1.5.8. From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Tue Jul 3 03:18:05 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:18:05 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Populating groups from external source? In-Reply-To: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> References: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> Message-ID: Well, a quick google shows me this: http://ruby-ldap.sourceforge.net/ Title sounds promising, not? ;) Boris On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:46:46 +0200, Ray Van Dolson wrote: > Hi all, I'd like to use an external source (LDAP-based) for defining > membership in groups vs creating and updating a Group page > separately. > > Are there any plugins out there or an existing configuration that can > be made to do this? Any solutions on the horizon? > > Thanks, > Ray From tw-public at gmx.de Tue Jul 3 03:18:14 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:18:14 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Populating groups from external source? In-Reply-To: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> References: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> Message-ID: <1183447094.6702.6.camel@black> > Hi all, I'd like to use an external source (LDAP-based) for defining > membership in groups vs creating and updating a Group page > separately. There is no direct ldap access by the group code. But you can automate the generation of the group page, see moin-1.5.8/MoinMoin/script/old/xmlrpc-tools/UpdateGroupTest.py. From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Tue Jul 3 03:20:34 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:20:34 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Populating groups from external source? In-Reply-To: References: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> Message-ID: Oh, sorry. Mixed up two mailinglists. Any way, LDAP is built standard into MoinMoin. Check here: http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAuthentication/LDAP Boris On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 09:18:05 +0200, Boris Callens wrote: > Well, a quick google shows me this: > > http://ruby-ldap.sourceforge.net/ > > Title sounds promising, not? ;) > > Boris > > On Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:46:46 +0200, Ray Van Dolson > wrote: > >> Hi all, I'd like to use an external source (LDAP-based) for defining >> membership in groups vs creating and updating a Group page >> separately. >> >> Are there any plugins out there or an existing configuration that can >> be made to do this? Any solutions on the horizon? >> >> Thanks, >> Ray From ujaroe at googlemail.com Tue Jul 3 05:41:35 2007 From: ujaroe at googlemail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulf_Jaenicke-R=F6=DFler?=) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:41:35 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] German pages - where to download? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: R.Bauer wrote: > all Help pages are included below the underlay directory. You have them > already. If you like to use them change your preferences of your account > to german or change the default_language var in wikiconfig.py. Hi Reimar, thank you for your answer. I did change the language preference of my account. That's why I noticed that clicking on "HilfeZumEditieren" while editing a page cannot be be found: I always get the "Create new page" page :-( Also, SyntaxReferenz does not work. Hence, I thought, I have to install those pages. What could be wrong? What information is required to solve the mystery? Thanks Ulf From rvandolson at esri.com Tue Jul 3 11:22:16 2007 From: rvandolson at esri.com (Ray Van Dolson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:22:16 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Populating groups from external source? In-Reply-To: References: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> Message-ID: <20070703152215.GA15761@esri.com> On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:20:34AM +0200, Boris Callens wrote: > Oh, sorry. > Mixed up two mailinglists. > > Any way, LDAP is built standard into MoinMoin. > Check here: http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAuthentication/LDAP Thanks for the reply Boris -- that is for Authentication which works quite well. I'm trying to generate Group lists from LDAP (for use with the Moin ACL's). Ray From rvandolson at esri.com Tue Jul 3 11:22:38 2007 From: rvandolson at esri.com (Ray Van Dolson) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 08:22:38 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Populating groups from external source? In-Reply-To: <1183447094.6702.6.camel@black> References: <20070702184646.GA9284@esri.com> <1183447094.6702.6.camel@black> Message-ID: <20070703152238.GB15761@esri.com> On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:18:14AM +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > Hi all, I'd like to use an external source (LDAP-based) for defining > > membership in groups vs creating and updating a Group page > > separately. > > There is no direct ldap access by the group code. > > But you can automate the generation of the group page, see > moin-1.5.8/MoinMoin/script/old/xmlrpc-tools/UpdateGroupTest.py. > Thanks, sounds like that might "do the trick"! Ray From aiIFU4v at worldcourier.com Tue Jul 3 14:13:30 2007 From: aiIFU4v at worldcourier.com (Frederic Camacho) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 00:13:30 +0600 Subject: [Moin-user] although intern watt__ Message-ID: Start improving your life! Bachelors, Masters, MBA and/or Doctorate (PhD) NO ONE is turned down. 7 days a week. Give us a ring.. 12068882083 You Need a Better Degree, and we can Help! Obtain degrees from prestigious non ac Universities based on you life experience. NO ONE is turned down. 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Do it now.. 12068882083 Regards, Professor. Silas Barron He banged the carriage-return lever four or five times, centered the carriage, and typed CHAPTER I. Poor buggers down there never stopped busting their cute, and -he didnt envy them one little bit. From kauer at biplane.com.au Wed Jul 4 00:25:19 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 14:25:19 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout Message-ID: <1183523119.2346.472.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hullo there. I have read the help pages. I have set my user prefs to "remember me". I have gone into farmconfig.py and set cookie_lifetime to 48. There are no other occurrences where cookie_lifetime is written in either of /usr/share/moin/*.py or /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/MoinMoin. But still I am logged out far too frequently. I'm guessing after about an hour. How do I stop this? This is an internal network with two users, we basically don't *ever* want to be logged out, but setting the timeout to 24 or 48 hours would be an acceptable compromise. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 21:31:02 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 19:31:02 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout In-Reply-To: <1183523119.2346.472.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1183523119.2346.472.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3130eec50707041831v7301eb61y4a094eb35bbd5f97@mail.gmail.com> On 7/3/07, Karl Auer wrote: > But still I am logged out far too frequently. I'm guessing after about > an hour. > > How do I stop this? This is an internal network with two users, It happens to me too while accessing the site from the localnet. The same site from internet has well-behaved cookies. -- Gnarlie http://Gnarlodious.com/ From antonio.a.barbosa at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 06:10:02 2007 From: antonio.a.barbosa at gmail.com (Antonio Barbosa) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 11:10:02 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Link to Html file Message-ID: Hi (this is my first post to this list) I have been playing with MoinMoin DesktopEdition, and so far I like it, but lately I found a difficulty: I can not link a page to a local html file. My main purpose of the wiki is to display python documentation generated by Epydoc. Epydoc generates several html files, and I would like to have a link to eg. attachments/index.html, and when a user hits this link it should display the html code in the same window as a normal wiki page. This is possible to do with another wikis (eg. Mediawiki). I know that it is possible to convert Html to Wiki code, but this solution is far from perfect. Any help would be appreciated. PS : Before posting, I have been reading the docs and googling a lot, but with no luck! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kauer at biplane.com.au Fri Jul 6 09:49:09 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:49:09 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) Message-ID: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> Hullo there. I posed this question a few days ago and have seen no answer yet. Is the problem so intractable? -------- original message --------- I have read the help pages. I have set my user prefs to "remember me". I have gone into farmconfig.py and set cookie_lifetime to 48. There are no other occurrences where cookie_lifetime is written in either of /usr/share/moin/*.py or /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/MoinMoin. But still I am logged out far too frequently. I'm guessing after about an hour. How do I stop this? This is an internal network with two users, we basically don't *ever* want to be logged out, but setting the timeout to 24 or 48 hours would be an acceptable compromise. -------------- end ---------------- Yours in continued hope, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Jul 6 13:19:11 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:19:11 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Link to Html file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <468E798F.1030100@gmx.de> > I have been playing with MoinMoin DesktopEdition, and so far I like it, > but lately I found a difficulty: > > I can not link a page to a local html file. http://moinmo.in/FileLinks in case you search for file: links. As you can read there, they have problems (and this is not moin's fault), so it is suggested to use http: whenever possible. To access your files via http, you have to run a web server that serves the html files produced by epydoc, of course. From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Jul 6 13:23:43 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 19:23:43 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <468E7A9F.9020809@gmx.de> > I posed this question a few days ago and have seen no answer yet. Is the > problem so intractable? I didn't have that problem yet. Sometimes, I had problems with having different cookies (from different moin versions / setups) and just deleting all the cookies of that site in my browser helped. I this does not help you, I suggest filing a bug report on the moinmoin wiki (and give much more details about version, configuration, browsers, etc.). From antonio.a.barbosa at gmail.com Fri Jul 6 17:22:30 2007 From: antonio.a.barbosa at gmail.com (Antonio Barbosa) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 22:22:30 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] MoinMoin Link to Html file In-Reply-To: <468E798F.1030100@gmx.de> References: <468E798F.1030100@gmx.de> Message-ID: Hi Thomas, Thanks for your quick reply. The web server is not a option, at least for the time being: I like the simplicity of Desktop version:) So I will try 2 other options: - look for another doc generator, instead of Epydoc - look for a good translator Html->Wiki. Cheers AB On 7/6/07, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > > I have been playing with MoinMoin DesktopEdition, and so far I like it, > > but lately I found a difficulty: > > > > I can not link a page to a local html file. > > http://moinmo.in/FileLinks in case you search for file: links. > > As you can read there, they have problems (and this is not moin's > fault), so it is suggested to use http: whenever possible. > > To access your files via http, you have to run a web server that serves > the html files produced by epydoc, of course. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. 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URL: From kauer at biplane.com.au Fri Jul 6 19:16:14 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 09:16:14 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <468E7A9F.9020809@gmx.de> References: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468E7A9F.9020809@gmx.de> Message-ID: <1183763774.5803.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 19:23 +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > I didn't have that problem yet. > > Sometimes, I had problems with having different cookies (from different > moin versions / setups) and just deleting all the cookies of that site > in my browser helped. > > I this does not help you, I suggest filing a bug report on the moinmoin > wiki (and give much more details about version, configuration, browsers, > etc.). What would help (before I do that) would be specific information about where the cookies are (not the browser cookies, the cookies MoinMoin stores). Or are they always dynamically generated? If so, what is cookie_path for? Anyway, I can't find 'em because I don't know what they look like and I don't know where they are supposed to be. cookie_path is set to None, is that a problem? Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Jul 6 19:39:13 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 01:39:13 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183763774.5803.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468E7A9F.9020809@gmx.de> <1183763774.5803.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1183765153.15661.4.camel@black> > > Sometimes, I had problems with having different cookies (from different > > moin versions / setups) and just deleting all the cookies of that site > > in my browser helped. > > > > I this does not help you, I suggest filing a bug report on the moinmoin > > wiki (and give much more details about version, configuration, browsers, > > etc.). > > What would help (before I do that) would be specific information about > where the cookies are (not the browser cookies, the cookies MoinMoin > stores). MoinMoin uses browser cookies. Your browser has some managment function to see / delete them. > Or are they always dynamically generated? They are set after you log in, to keep the session. > If so, what is cookie_path for? You need this if the default path moin uses is not correct for the way you use moin, e.g. if you run a wiki farm with common users / shared login. > Anyway, I can't find 'em because I don't know what they look like and I > don't know where they are supposed to be. cookie_path is set to None, is > that a problem? Look in your browser's menues / settings. You'll find the moin cookie under the site (server name) your wiki is located. From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Fri Jul 6 21:59:16 2007 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:59:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183763774.5803.124.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <994548.49049.qm@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- Karl Auer wrote: > On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 19:23 +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > I didn't have that problem yet. > > > > Sometimes, I had problems with having different cookies (from > different > > moin versions / setups) and just deleting all the cookies of that > site > > in my browser helped. > > > > I this does not help you, I suggest filing a bug report on the > moinmoin > > wiki (and give much more details about version, configuration, > browsers, > > etc.). > > What would help (before I do that) would be specific information > about > where the cookies are (not the browser cookies, the cookies MoinMoin > stores). Or are they always dynamically generated? If so, what is > cookie_path for? > > Anyway, I can't find 'em because I don't know what they look like and > I > don't know where they are supposed to be. cookie_path is set to None, > is > that a problem? > > Regards, K. I have not had the problem you describe either. If you are not familiar with cookies, a good place to start looking at them is to download and install the current version of Firefox. Once you get it running, click on Tools > Add ons > get extensions (lower right). Then choose Web And Developer Tools and do a search for Web Developer. Install Web Developer, restart Firefox. To have a look at the cookies for the current web page, click on Tools > Web Developer > Cookies > View Cookie Information. Your Moin cookie will have the ID Moin_ID. Make a note of what it looks like when you are logged on to Moin (expiration time?), and look again when you get logged off. Other browsers may have their own ways of looking at cookies. There are several other Firefox add-ons that you may find useful. Roger Haase ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From kauer at biplane.com.au Sat Jul 7 05:20:02 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 19:20:02 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <994548.49049.qm@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <994548.49049.qm@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1183800002.5803.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 18:59 -0700, Roger Haase wrote: > If you are not familiar with cookies, a good place to start looking at > them is to download and install the current version of Firefox. > [...etc...] I know about my browser (I use firefox), and I am quite knowledgeable about cookies. Thanks for all the info, but I am looking for help on MoinMoin, not my browser. The reason I asked "where are my cookies" was because there is a variable called cookie_path in MoinMoin. It seems reasonable to me to think that this points to a location where MoinMoin (not my browser) will store information about cookies. A recent response from Thomas Waldmann implied that too. He said "You need [cookie_path] if the default path moin uses is not correct for the way you use moin, e.g. if you run a wiki farm with common users / shared login. On my system, cookie_path is set to None - what effect, if any, does this have on cookie handling? What exactly is supposed to be in the location pointed to by cookie_path? What permissions should this location have? Here is my problem: To the best of my ability I have done what the various help pages say in order to set my cookie_lifetime to something very large - 48 hours. However, I am still logged out after a much shorter time. Other people have sent me-too messages, so I am not the only one with this issue. My question is - why am I logged out? And what can I do to not, ever, be logged out? I would be happy if someone could suggest a hack to brute-force a permanent login, but I would prefer to use the proper method. At present, the proper method does not appear to be working. > To have a look at the cookies for the current web page, click on Tools > > Web Developer > Cookies > View Cookie Information. Your Moin cookie > will have the ID Moin_ID. Make a note of what it looks like when you > are logged on to Moin (expiration time?), and look again when you get > logged off. When logged in, the expiration is given as "at end of session". When not logged in, there is no cookie. Note that I am NOT closing my browser window (so the session has not ended). After some hours of inactivity I refresh the Wiki page or click on a Wiki link to some other page in the Wiki, the page is displayed as immutable, and I have to log in again. Is there a difference between how inactivity is handled and how cookie_lifetime is handled? Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From tw-public at gmx.de Sat Jul 7 16:49:19 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:49:19 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183800002.5803.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <994548.49049.qm@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1183800002.5803.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1183841359.19308.13.camel@black> > I know about my browser (I use firefox), and I am quite knowledgeable > about cookies. Then you know everything you need. moin cookies are normal cookies and they are stored by your browser on your local hard disk somewhere. > The reason I asked "where are my cookies" was because there is a > variable called cookie_path in MoinMoin. It seems reasonable to me to > think that this points to a location where MoinMoin (not my browser) > will store information about cookies. No, the "path" refers to a url path information stored in the cookie. See the cookie standard for more infos. > On my system, cookie_path is set to None This is correct as long as you just run a normal wiki, without farming or other magic. > I would be happy if someone could suggest a hack to brute-force a > permanent login, There is some "remember me forever" in your UserPreferences. > When logged in, the expiration is given as "at end of session". This is strange. Do you maybe have some browser setting or extension forcing this behaviour? From kauer at biplane.com.au Sat Jul 7 22:07:12 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:07:12 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183841359.19308.13.camel@black> References: <994548.49049.qm@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1183800002.5803.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1183841359.19308.13.camel@black> Message-ID: <1183860432.5803.169.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 22:49 +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > No, the "path" refers to a url path information stored in the cookie. > See the cookie standard for more infos. Thanks, that's what I needed to know. > [cookie_path=None] > This is correct as long as you just run a normal wiki, without farming > or other magic. I run a two-wiki farm, but at present never log in to the other wiki. I wouldn't want the logins in the two wikis to be shared though. Given I have a farm, albeit a very small one :-) what if anything should I be doing with the cookie_path variable? > There is some "remember me forever" in your UserPreferences. Turned on, doesn't change anything. > > When logged in, the expiration is given as "at end of session". > > This is strange. Do you maybe have some browser setting or extension > forcing this behaviour? Yes, my browser is set to forget everything when I exit. That's why I mentioned the fact that I do not exit the browser. However, if MoinMoin doesn't understand that value, perhaps it reacts badly to it. I'll try changing that setting and see if it makes a difference. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From kauer at biplane.com.au Sat Jul 7 22:38:05 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:38:05 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <468FE3F1.6070400@iDIAcomputing.com> References: <994548.49049.qm@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1183800002.5803.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468FE3F1.6070400@iDIAcomputing.com> Message-ID: <1183862286.5803.190.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Sat, 2007-07-07 at 15:05 -0400, George Dinwiddie wrote: > Hmmm... You say you're quite knowledgeable about cookies. Have you read > http://www.w3.org/Protocols/rfc2109/rfc2109 ? Thank you, yes I have. > Hope this helps, The fact that MoinMoin stores no actual cookie data and no info related to the cookies (except the cookie_lifetime and cookie_path themselves), is useful info. The cookie expiry time of "at end of session" might be confusing MoinMoin. I don't know why that would be, because "at end of session" is actually the standards-mandated default expiry time. With that setting changed to allow cookies to expire "naturally", I now see a MoinMoin cookie expiry time (having logged in at at 12:17 and some seconds on 8 July 2007) of "05/07/17 12:17:51" - which I frankly don't understand . Is that the 5th of July 2017? If so it's quite a bit longer than the 48 hours I asked for :-) Now I wait... Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From kauer at biplane.com.au Sun Jul 8 00:55:42 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:55:42 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183862286.5803.190.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <994548.49049.qm@web36210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1183800002.5803.151.camel@localhost.localdomain> <468FE3F1.6070400@iDIAcomputing.com> <1183862286.5803.190.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1183870543.5803.197.camel@localhost.localdomain> More info: On Sun, 2007-07-08 at 12:38 +1000, Karl Auer wrote: > With that setting changed to allow cookies to expire "naturally", I now > see a MoinMoin cookie expiry time (having logged in at at 12:17 and some > seconds on 8 July 2007) of "05/07/17 12:17:51" - which I frankly don't > understand . Is that the 5th of July 2017? If so it's quite a bit longer > than the 48 hours I asked for :-) Well, I waited two hours or so and then hit refresh - and the page refreshed, but was immutable, where it had been editable before. I.e., I was no longer logged in. Hum. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From kauer at biplane.com.au Sun Jul 8 19:59:44 2007 From: kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 09:59:44 +1000 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <1183939184.5803.259.camel@localhost.localdomain> On Fri, 2007-07-06 at 23:49 +1000, Karl Auer wrote: > I have read the help pages. I have set my user prefs to "remember me". [etc] > But still I am logged out far too frequently. I'm guessing after about > an hour. Well, I've figured it out. The answer is completely embarrassing, but who knows? Maybe it will help the others who sent me "me too" messages. If one person can be this dumb, I'm sure two can :-) (drum roll please) If you use Firefox' "clear private data" tool manually (Tools->Clear Private Data, or Ctrl-Shift-Del) , make sure that cookies are excepted! There's a checkbox just for that. Edit -> Preferences -> Privacy -> Settings -> Cookies. My habit of clearing all private data (which I do manually because I leave so many Firefox windows open around the clock) was so automatic I barely realised I was doing it. Since I *want* those cookies cleared, I can't use this setting, but at least now I know why Moin Moin wants me to log in all the time. So my sincere apologies to you all for wasting your time, especially Thomas Waldmann, Roger Haase and George Dinwiddie. Regards, K. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Karl Auer (kauer at biplane.com.au) +61-2-64957160 (h) http://www.biplane.com.au/~kauer/ +61-428-957160 (mob) From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Tue Jul 10 06:30:04 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 04:30:04 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] cookie timeout (repeat) In-Reply-To: <1183939184.5803.259.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1183729749.5803.114.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1183939184.5803.259.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <3130eec50707100330t4e5b9a3cpfd24e59e445d16c8@mail.gmail.com> On 7/8/07, Karl Auer wrote: > If you use Firefox' "clear private data" tool manually ~ make sure that cookies are excepted! I don't use Firefox and I never clear my browser. So why I get logged out of the loclnet wiki is still a mystery. No big deal though. -- Gnarlie From Steven.H.Rogers at seagate.com Tue Jul 10 17:08:01 2007 From: Steven.H.Rogers at seagate.com (Steven.H.Rogers at seagate.com) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:08:01 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Facets Message-ID: What is the status of facets for MoinMoin? There are several wiki pages related to them, but it isn't obvious that anyone is working on this. # Steve From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Wed Jul 11 12:34:09 2007 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:34:09 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] Facets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4459f0d30707110934k1a7e4619xdc8cc3bb1fb0302d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Steven. > What is the status of facets for MoinMoin? There are several wiki pages > related to them, but it isn't obvious that anyone is working on this. AFAIK, there is no integrated work going on now, but a few efforts are underway, and some will eventually give a good base to work with facets. From already built (now) to "in construction" (tomorrow): * GraphinWiki is working: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/GraphingWiki * There is a theme that shows categories as a tree: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket#head-2e793d1e866ba0d35daee52c042c254cf340db78 * There is a lot of effort regarding StorageRefactoring to better use MetaData: * http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/StorageRefactoring/SOC2007 * http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo/Release_2.0 * http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/StorageRefactoring/StorageAbstractionLayer Regards... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. http://simplementewiki.org http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/ From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Fri Jul 13 03:57:49 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:57:49 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Edit the Edit view? Message-ID: Hi list, I was wondering if it is possible to easely alter the edit view. It would be great if I could make the textbox bigger so my whole window is used, and I would gladly trade the little helpOnEditing box at the bottom of the screen for some more actuall editing space. Thanks in advance Boris Callens fedEx From darver at vmware.com Fri Jul 13 11:00:02 2007 From: darver at vmware.com (Dexter Arver) Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 08:00:02 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Edit the Edit view? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9FB613FEE8910A40AAF74D00E11DA46E581AE5@PA-EXCH01.vmware.com> Hi Boris, The editor textbox size is a user preference setting. :) -Dexter -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Boris Callens Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 12:58 AM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Edit the Edit view? Hi list, I was wondering if it is possible to easely alter the edit view. 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URL: From tw-public at gmx.de Sun Jul 15 10:07:42 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:07:42 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] spam protection comparison In-Reply-To: <6af4270707132001u2a5230c0s5d50fc200d53c8bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <6af4270707132001u2a5230c0s5d50fc200d53c8bd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1184508462.29921.5.camel@black> Currently moin can block spam (or abuse) by: * checking saved page content against a distributed regex list * checking ip against a hosts_deny list * checking some things that only dumb spam bots do, but not a normal user with a browser * using surge protection: if some script tries to do too many edits in some time unit, it will be locked out If some spam happens, you can simply revert it (see info action). For the wiki admin, there is even a despam action that makes mass revert easy. Of course you can also use ACLs to only allow editing for registered users or even registered and verified users. From skip at pobox.com Mon Jul 16 12:35:44 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:35:44 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Hook up form inputs to macro execution? Message-ID: <18075.40544.358472.821782@montanaro.dyndns.org> I have a simple macro that searches an internal phone book for any args it's given. If no arguments are given I have it display a search form. Is there some way to connect the form's action to the macro with the input as the args parameter? I'm still running MoinMoin 1.3.x on a system with only Python 2.2 installed. I don't think I can do what I want there. Is it available in a more recent MoinMoin version or is there some extension to MoinMoin that can do what I want? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From franz.zieher at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 14:40:19 2007 From: franz.zieher at gmail.com (Franz Zieher) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Moin-user] Simple (less wiki like) themes References: <20070606131109.GA7304@newred.gradwell.net> <762609.83426.qm@web36203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20070606193157.GB28425@newred.gradwell.net> Message-ID: solo turn gmail.com> writes: > > here we have the following things which seem not to work: > * there is a horizontal scrollbar below (it is not wide enough?) > * it does not work in ie6 > * do a title search, and the title of the search is displayed below the logo > > in general i like moin a lot, also the themes. the only thing which i > find a (big) mess is the handling of titles. > > either you have "double headers" like in > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ThemeMarket/SimpleMente or the header > at the left for some things like searches (much too long for all the > "side" themes, and not clickable as normal). > > imo there would be only one option: > have the default header on top. in case there is a h1 written in the > page, take this one and make a link for "do fulltext search". > > but thomas does not seem to like that idea :) > > -solo > I'm running into the same problem that it doesn't work for the IE6 (it does very well for the IE7 and Firefox, though). Since I plan to use this theme within an environment that still is on IE6 as standard browser, is there a way to overcome the current limitations of the menu-column not being fixed in IE6. It would be a great theme if it would be usable for IE6 as well. Any hints and recommendation given the current css element structuring of the theme? Can it be adjusted to work with IE6? The horizontal bar below for wider strings in the page trail for example don't bother too much, though. -- Franz Zieher From skip at pobox.com Mon Jul 16 16:36:01 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:36:01 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Confused about upgrading from 1.3.5 to 1.5.8 Message-ID: <18075.54961.389182.835517@montanaro.dyndns.org> I downloaded 1.5.8 today and have been looking at the upgrade/migration stuff. I see scripts for migrating from 1.2 to 1.3 and from 1.5.2 to 1.5.3. What migration script(s) do I need to run to go from 1.3.x to 1.5.x? I saw no mention of this step in docs/README.migration. Am I missing something? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From skip at pobox.com Mon Jul 16 17:02:21 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:02:21 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] More post-1.5.3 confusion Message-ID: <18075.56541.482900.241522@montanaro.dyndns.org> Seeing that the 152_to_1050300.py script looked pretty innocuous I ran it against all five of my wiki data directories. Then I looked at the post-1.5.3 migration stuff. This step seems pretty straightforward: a) First switch to the user of your data directory (www-data normally): e. g. sudo -u www-data sh or su www-data but I can't tell what this means: b) Invoke the following command: moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data If my wiki's data directory and wikiconfig.py file are in /usr/share/moin/mywiki is that considered to be my "config_dir"? I run five wikis all under the same base url but with different paths, e.g.: http://www.mycompany.com/mywiki http://www.mycompany.com/theirwiki http://www.mycompany.com/wikinumberthree etc. So should the wiki-url command line flag be (for example) "www.mycompany.com/mywiki" or "www.mycompany.com/mywiki/" or something else? Why no "http://" prefix? It would be nice if the migration instructions were quite standalone and didn't assume a lot of familiarity with the structure of the Moin instance or Moin-specific terminology. I've been running Moin for quite awhile, but it's also been a very long time since I upgraded, so bit rot has set in in a big way. Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ From fdrake at gmail.com Mon Jul 16 17:29:25 2007 From: fdrake at gmail.com (Fred Drake) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:29:25 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] More post-1.5.3 confusion In-Reply-To: <18075.56541.482900.241522@montanaro.dyndns.org> References: <18075.56541.482900.241522@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <9cee7ab80707161429iec40851y5b83a6861e045e16@mail.gmail.com> On 7/16/07, skip at pobox.com wrote: > It would be nice if the migration instructions were quite standalone and > didn't assume a lot of familiarity with the structure of the Moin instance > or Moin-specific terminology. I've been running Moin for quite awhile, but > it's also been a very long time since I upgraded, so bit rot has set in in a > big way. Darn it, but the ol' wetware does age, doesn't it, Skip? --sigh-- -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr. "Chaos is the score upon which reality is written." --Henry Miller From skip at pobox.com Mon Jul 16 21:31:14 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:31:14 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] More post-1.5.3 confusion In-Reply-To: <9cee7ab80707161429iec40851y5b83a6861e045e16@mail.gmail.com> References: <18075.56541.482900.241522@montanaro.dyndns.org> <9cee7ab80707161429iec40851y5b83a6861e045e16@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18076.7138.513767.808882@montanaro.dyndns.org> Fred> Darn it, but the ol' wetware does age, doesn't it, Skip? --sigh-- It does, indeed... Skip From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Mon Jul 16 23:50:41 2007 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Confused about upgrading from 1.3.5 to 1.5.8 In-Reply-To: <18075.54961.389182.835517@montanaro.dyndns.org> Message-ID: <440900.22467.qm@web36205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- skip at pobox.com wrote: > > I downloaded 1.5.8 today and have been looking at the > upgrade/migration > stuff. I see scripts for migrating from 1.2 to 1.3 and from 1.5.2 to > 1.5.3. > What migration script(s) do I need to run to go from 1.3.x to 1.5.x? > I saw > no mention of this step in docs/README.migration. Am I missing > something? > > Thx, > > -- > Skip Montanaro - skip at pobox.com - http://www.webfast.com/~skip/ > The instructions may be confusing at first because you have to read from the bottom (or near bottom up). It has been a while since I went through the migration, so take backups! Install Moin 1.5.8, and move your old wiki data directory if it needs to be moved. Then you must convert your ../mywiki/data/ directory structure to the 1.5.8 format. The major directory structure changes took place in migrating from 1.2 to 1.3, so most of the old migration scripts do not apply. But, if you are on 1.3.2, 1.3.1, or 1.3; then you need to run the following to convert your data to 1.3.4/1.3.5 format: * 12_to_13_mig10.py * 12_to_13_mig11.py (If you are currently on 1.3.4 or 1.3.5, you should not run the above.) Once your directory structure is at the 1.3.4/1.3.5 level, you need to run the following to convert it to 1.5.3: * 152_to_1050300.py Finally, to get from 1.5.3 to 1.5.8, you run the new style migration script to convert your data to 1.5.8: * moin --config-dir=/path/to/config_dir --wiki-url=wiki.example.org/ migration data If all goes well, you should find a ../mywiki/data/meta file with the contents: data_format_revision: 1050800 In addition to converting your data, you will probably need to reinstall current versions of any contributed macros. Also, you probably want to reapply any local parameters to a fresh copy of wikiconfig.py (or the farm version if you have a farm). Good luck, Roger Haase ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Tue Jul 17 14:05:22 2007 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:05:22 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] Convert action to macro Message-ID: <4459f0d30707171105u3ba23d99k3a1500006e23b26@mail.gmail.com> Hello everybody. I would like to convert an action (VisualSiteMap) to a macro, so I can embed it in any page. I don't know Python but I can find someone who does, if anyone points me to the more Phytonic way to do it. As far as I imagine, it would be something as simple as: [[VisualMap()]] Optional parameters could be: * the page (if no value is present page, PageName allows to embed another page VisualMap), and * depth (a default depth is defined in the script). Any help for this? Thanks a lot for your kind attention. :-) Regards... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. http://simplementewiki.org http://www.flickr.com/photos/eduardo-mercovich/ From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Wed Jul 18 04:59:08 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:59:08 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Table borders Message-ID: Dear list, Is there a way to make table borders invisible? I know I'm probably not the first one to ask, but I can't find a sollution that seems to actually work. Or if that is not possible, is there a way to float an image on the left side of the page, without pushing the other elements down the page? Thx in advance Boris Callens fedEx From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 08:31:10 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:31:10 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Table borders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3130eec50707180531n4f71d7a7k3da5224d77b68ba7@mail.gmail.com> You can make any border invisible by setting its CSS color to the same as its background. A CSS file will look like this: http://Gnarlodious.com/wiki/matrix/css/screen.css The CSS element you are looking for has a label like this: border-color: #292E33; The part after the # symbol is the color code of the border. There are a few shortcuts to finding CSS elements. Use a color meter to measure the color of a pixel on your screen. In Mac OSX we have the built-in "Digital Color Meter". Set the meter output to "RGB Hex 8 Bit". When you get the hex code of the color, search fpr that string in either the common.css or screen.css files for the theme you are targeting. Another method it to examine the CSS element directly. Safari has "Page Inspector", which shows a structural tree for the selected CSS element. Firefox has a plug-in to do the same which is called "DOM Inspector". -- Gnarlie On 7/18/07, Boris Callens wrote: > Dear list, > > Is there a way to make table borders invisible? > I know I'm probably not the first one to ask, but I can't find a sollution > that seems to actually work. > > Or if that is not possible, is there a way to float an image on the left > side of the page, without pushing the other elements down the page? > > Thx in advance > Boris Callens > fedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 08:48:33 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:48:33 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Table borders In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3130eec50707180548j33f66764wc92f29b511a0ee1f@mail.gmail.com> I forgot to answer your second question. Sorry but Internet Explorer does not support floating images. If you do float an image IE will display a blank screen with all sections stacked vertically. The normal way to float an image is like this ||cell contents|| In this scheme, all well-behaved browsers wrap the text around the image. -- Gnarlie On 7/18/07, Boris Callens wrote: > is there a way to float an image on the left > side of the page, without pushing the other elements down the page? From irfanfru at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 09:19:55 2007 From: irfanfru at gmail.com (mohd irfan) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 18:49:55 +0530 Subject: [Moin-user] Including page name Message-ID: Is there a way to know The name of the page that includes the current page we are viewing. Thanks, Mohammed Irfan. From Alexander.Dietz at astro.cf.ac.uk Wed Jul 18 10:29:12 2007 From: Alexander.Dietz at astro.cf.ac.uk (Alexander Dietz) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:29:12 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Problems to insert an internal link Message-ID: <9cf809a00707180729l27ab3a68x94260fed75010320@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I am new to MoinMoin, and despite helping pages how to insert an internal link, I could not figure out how to do this within MoinMoin. I cannot link to the example I was trying (since this is password protected), but here is the part of the name of the link to this page: http://www.protecdpage.org/directory/070702093921FollowUpsFollowup_of_the_candidates_during_GRB070201_time The actual name of the wiki entry is: Followup_of_the_candidates_during_GRB070201_time This entry resides in a section called FollowUps So any idea how to put a simple internal link to such a page? Cheers Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Install the plugin, and paste the following onto your page (substituting your image name for mine): {{{ #!Frame align=float:right,thick=0px attachment:my_image.jpg }}} This way, you don't have to muck with .css or anything. :-) The download page and full instructions here: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket/Frame -Rick -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Boris Callens Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 3:59 AM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Table borders Dear list, Is there a way to make table borders invisible? I know I'm probably not the first one to ask, but I can't find a sollution that seems to actually work. Or if that is not possible, is there a way to float an image on the left side of the page, without pushing the other elements down the page? Thx in advance Boris Callens fedEx ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ From lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com Wed Jul 18 22:19:56 2007 From: lists.gnarlodious at gmail.com (Gnarlodious) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:19:56 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] Uploading files (more than one) In-Reply-To: <9cf809a00707180731k6270bd05lc2c86d52af1d78fe@mail.gmail.com> References: <9cf809a00707180731k6270bd05lc2c86d52af1d78fe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3130eec50707181919i19991d16r5c5a5c69fa8b711a@mail.gmail.com> I just login with FTP and upload them to the relevant Attachments folder. They won't show up in the history or logs but for a little-used site it dosn't matter. The files still appear in the Attachments page. -- Gnarlie On 7/18/07, Alexander Dietz wrote: > I am new to MoinMoin, and I would like to know if there is a way to upload > more than one picture at once. I can be quite cumbersome if to insert e.g. > 20 pictures in a wiki entry and you have to upload every single file by its > own. > > Thanks > Alex > From mailinglists at the-reflection.de Thu Jul 19 04:18:35 2007 From: mailinglists at the-reflection.de (Patrick Rodacker) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:18:35 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Can't create user, name does exist already Message-ID: <469F1E5B.2070008@the-reflection.de> Hi all, I am new to MoinMoin and have set up a private MoinMoin Wiki successfully. I am now dealing with some user creation problems. One of the admins of the Wiki used the User Preferences Page to "create a new account" as he told me. What I guess is that he overrode his own profile creating changing the name and email address in the form. I then wanted to recreate his account, but get the error message that the username already exists. I had a look a the data/user folder and found no entry pointing to the old admin account, though the overridden data is present. Is there any other place where the user data is stored and looked up on registration? I found a cache entry in data/cache/user, but removing or changing had no effect at all. I would be greatful for any ideas. Thanks in advance Patrick From mailinglists at the-reflection.de Thu Jul 19 04:49:44 2007 From: mailinglists at the-reflection.de (Patrick Rodacker) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:49:44 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Can't create user, name does exist already In-Reply-To: <469F1E5B.2070008@the-reflection.de> References: <469F1E5B.2070008@the-reflection.de> Message-ID: <469F25A8.20809@the-reflection.de> Patrick Rodacker wrote on 19.07.2007 10:18: > Is there any other place where the user data is stored and looked up on > registration? I found a cache entry in data/cache/user, but removing or > changing had no effect at all. renaming (moving) of the cache file name2id _and_ a a restart of the webserver did the trick. Regs Patrick From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Thu Jul 19 07:33:45 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:33:45 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] ACL Message-ID: Dear list, I'm trying to add some ACL rules to one of my pages. It says "ou can't change ACLs on this page since you have no admin rights on it!" I checked my wiki"s AdminGroup and my username is on that list. I know I'm part of the AdminGroup because I can edit the AdminGroup's page content. The target page (dubbed Credentials) is a newly created page, so there should be no old ACL's on it. I Deleted the cache of the targetpage (dubbed Credentials) through the action menu of the page, but to no avail Any Ideas? Boris Callens fedEx From root at raki.oefd.at Thu Jul 19 08:56:12 2007 From: root at raki.oefd.at (Charlie Root) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:56:12 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] ACL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070719125612.GA2757@raki.oefd.at> On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 01:33:45PM +0200, Boris Callens wrote: > Dear list, > > I'm trying to add some ACL rules to one of my pages. > It says "ou can't change ACLs on this page since you have no admin rights > on it!" See http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAccessControlLists Section 5 'Available Rights' > I checked my wiki"s AdminGroup and my username is on that list. > I know I'm part of the AdminGroup because I can edit the AdminGroup's page > content. What rights does your AdminGroup have ? Does it have the 'admin' right ? oftl > The target page (dubbed Credentials) is a newly created page, so there > should be no old ACL's on it. > I Deleted the cache of the targetpage (dubbed Credentials) through the > action menu of the page, but to no avail > > Any Ideas? > > Boris Callens > fedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From oftl at oefd.at Thu Jul 19 09:06:20 2007 From: oftl at oefd.at (oftl) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:06:20 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] ACL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070719130620.GH3805@raki.oefd.at> On Thu, Jul 19, 2007 at 01:33:45PM +0200, Boris Callens wrote: > Dear list, > > I'm trying to add some ACL rules to one of my pages. > It says "ou can't change ACLs on this page since you have no admin rights > on it!" See http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAccessControlLists Section 5 'Available Rights' > I checked my wiki"s AdminGroup and my username is on that list. > I know I'm part of the AdminGroup because I can edit the AdminGroup's page > content. What rights does your AdminGroup have ? Does it have the 'admin' right ? oftl > The target page (dubbed Credentials) is a newly created page, so there > should be no old ACL's on it. > I Deleted the cache of the targetpage (dubbed Credentials) through the > action menu of the page, but to no avail > > Any Ideas? > > Boris Callens > fedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user -- i prefer text-only mail. http://www.oefd.at | http://www.zfd.at why ? read this: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From hgerlach at gmx.de Thu Jul 19 11:02:58 2007 From: hgerlach at gmx.de (Henryk Gerlach) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:02:58 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] ACL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070719150258.77840@gmx.net> Hi Boris, > Any Ideas? can you post your wikiconfig or at least parts of it? Especially the lines containing acl_rights_before acl_rights_default Best regards, Henryk -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh?rt? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From mail at heavy.ch Thu Jul 19 12:29:52 2007 From: mail at heavy.ch (Marcel Haefner) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:29:52 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Moin-user] Mail2Wiki Gateway Message-ID: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> Hi there Just wanted to ask you, if anybody has some ongoing (working) project running or would like to contribute anything else to this topic. I put some Information on my private Homepage; you may take a look at: http://lotek.heavy.ch/Projekte/Mail2Wiki (Sorry it's in german and I added just a poor Google translator; see the link right/up) In general, it's going about adding and updating pages over e-mail. It would be for my privat Info/Blog System, but I'm not a python developer so no chance to get this kind of mail2wiki gateway running in acceptable timeframe. Welcome are any kind of comments...thx. Best Regards Marcel From skip at pobox.com Thu Jul 19 12:41:11 2007 From: skip at pobox.com (skip at pobox.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:41:11 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Mail2Wiki Gateway In-Reply-To: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> References: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> Message-ID: <18079.37927.512624.788333@montanaro.dyndns.org> Marcel> Just wanted to ask you, if anybody has some ongoing (working) Marcel> project running or would like to contribute anything else to Marcel> this topic. You might want to look at the XML-RPC interface to MoinMoin. It allows you to get and put pages. Your mail-to-wiki processor (it need not be written in Python) could use that to handle the changes. Skip From gcaminiti at eniware.it Thu Jul 19 15:44:22 2007 From: gcaminiti at eniware.it (Hazel Lowry140) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:44:22 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] Hazel, Our company is looking for representatives in your area Message-ID: <01c7ca24$0ee12ce0$e898963e@gcaminiti> EmapExchange is a leading electronic funds transfer company with core business values and a great concern for the general well being and satisfaction of our customers. The scope of our expertise enables EmapExchange to respond effectively to any challenge our clients care to set us. EmapExchange is made up of a sophisticated network of agents in six continents, having in common a blend of intelligence, talent and expertise, harnessed to bring competitive advantage to the client. We move money all over the world today and make every corner of the world accessible to EmapExchange customers! 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This makes me think that Moin is somehow throttling download speed based on file size (e.g. slowing down big files). - It doesn't look like Apache 2.2.3 is the problem because when I move one of these large files directly to webroot (/var/www/html) from the /wiki/data directory, this same file downloads at 1.5MB/s. - I've changed the extension of the filename from .wmv to .ppt, but the same download speeds are observed. - Uploading the 270MB file occurred in less than 4 minutes (~1.5MB/s). Thank you in advance for any further information about this or solutions to configure/disable throttling. Regards, Geoff From rickvanderveer at yahoo.com Thu Jul 19 23:35:53 2007 From: rickvanderveer at yahoo.com (Rick VanDerveer) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:35:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] File download throttling based on file size? Message-ID: <232090.84567.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Geoff, I've observed similar cases with our organization's internal wiki. I'm using FastCGI for our wiki. I can be COMPLETELY wrong here, but my hypothesis is that FastCGI is only a single process, and therefore isn't able to adequately juggle multiple large downloads. I have one download in particular that nearly causes the wiki to non-responsive for any other users. One silly little work-around I've been using is to set up a Apache alias to a directory outside the moin folders, where I keep large downloads. I then link to those files, Moin treats it as a link to an outside server, and Apache can handle the transfer load easily. Ultimately, it's coming from the same box, but moin isn't serving it and remains as responsive as ever. -Rick -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net on behalf of Geoff Mayes Sent: Thu 7/19/2007 9:04 PM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] File download throttling based on file size? Howdy Moin users! Anyone know if there is some sort of download speed throttling built into MoinMoin? A user just pointed out that large files (> 100MB) are very slow to download whereas small files (< 2MB) download instantaneously. Our Moin instance is only used internally on our intranet. I tested this a bit more and discovered the following: - When downloading 270MB, 140MB, and 40MB files at the same time, they download at 3, 6, and 20KB/s, respectively. This makes me think that Moin is somehow throttling download speed based on file size (e.g. slowing down big files). - It doesn't look like Apache 2.2.3 is the problem because when I move one of these large files directly to webroot (/var/www/html) from the /wiki/data directory, this same file downloads at 1.5MB/s. - I've changed the extension of the filename from .wmv to .ppt, but the same download speeds are observed. - Uploading the 270MB file occurred in less than 4 minutes (~1.5MB/s). Thank you in advance for any further information about this or solutions to configure/disable throttling. Regards, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Jul 20 03:05:28 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 09:05:28 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Mail2Wiki Gateway In-Reply-To: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> References: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> Message-ID: <1184915128.5996.1.camel@black> > Just wanted to ask you, if anybody has some ongoing (working) project > running or would like to contribute anything else to this topic. > > I put some Information on my private Homepage; you may take a look at: > > http://lotek.heavy.ch/Projekte/Mail2Wiki Something similar is already implemented (and working) for 1.6. See: http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/EmailSupport From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Fri Jul 20 05:26:04 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 11:26:04 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Colour my table Message-ID: Hi list, I try to make my wiki pages a bit less boring. I try to add colours and images where possible. One thing I do is give my tables some (alternating) colours. Untill now I have coloured them cell by cell, manually inserting the colour code in the tag. Isn't there a way to automise this and get my markup code out of my content (the colour codes make the table completely unreadable)? Even a way to colour the table row by row instead of cell by cell would be a great start. krgrds Boris Callens fedEx From j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk Fri Jul 20 07:08:11 2007 From: j.k.wight at ncl.ac.uk (Jim Wight) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:08:11 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Colour my table In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1184929691.3717.478.camel@gudea.ncl.ac.uk> On Fri, 2007-07-20 at 11:26 +0200, Boris Callens wrote: > I try to make my wiki pages a bit less boring. > I try to add colours and images where possible. > One thing I do is give my tables some (alternating) colours. > > Untill now I have coloured them cell by cell, manually inserting the > colour code in the tag. > Isn't there a way to automise this and get my markup code out of my > content (the colour codes make the table completely unreadable)? Maybe by writing some CSS. > Even a way to colour the table row by row instead of cell by cell would be > a great start. Like this: ||Hello||World|| Jim From mail at heavy.ch Fri Jul 20 07:54:49 2007 From: mail at heavy.ch (Marcel Haefner) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:54:49 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Moin-user] Mail2Wiki Gateway In-Reply-To: <1184915128.5996.1.camel@black> References: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> <1184915128.5996.1.camel@black> Message-ID: <63606.212.203.75.131.1184932489.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> Thanks! That's awesome! Now just waiting for the 1.6 release. http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo/Release_1.6.0 Do you have any idea when this nifty version 1.6. could be able to deploy for a live system (maybe a beta would do)? It would not be a problem to integrate the source or add some patches, but don't want to "kill" our little intranet in my office with an alpha version, only ?coz I?m just too curious :-) thx Marcel >> Just wanted to ask you, if anybody has some ongoing (working) project >> running or would like to contribute anything else to this topic. >> >> I put some Information on my private Homepage; you may take a look at: >> >> http://lotek.heavy.ch/Projekte/Mail2Wiki > > Something similar is already implemented (and working) for 1.6. > > See: > > http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnConfiguration/EmailSupport > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2005. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Jul 20 09:22:08 2007 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:22:08 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Mail2Wiki Gateway In-Reply-To: <63606.212.203.75.131.1184932489.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> References: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> <1184915128.5996.1.camel@black> <63606.212.203.75.131.1184932489.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> Message-ID: <1184937728.5996.9.camel@black> > Do you have any idea when this nifty version 1.6. could be able to deploy > for a live system (maybe a beta would do)? It would not be a problem to > integrate the source or add some patches, but don't want to "kill" our > little intranet in my office with an alpha version, only ?coz I?m just too > curious :-) The release will be in 2007. :) Whether you want to use current source from the repo depends a bit on the amount of experimentation and debugging you want to do. There is no automatic migration tool yet, so you might have some troubles with page names containing "_" or " ". If you don't have (m)any of those, you could just try 1.6, if you do have many of those, better wait for the release and the converter. Anyway, if you try it, make some backup first of your old stuff. :) You can also try it online first, it is at http://test.wikiwikiweb.de/ From mail at heavy.ch Fri Jul 20 09:39:12 2007 From: mail at heavy.ch (Marcel Haefner) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:39:12 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [Moin-user] Mail2Wiki Gateway In-Reply-To: <1184937728.5996.9.camel@black> References: <40612.212.203.75.131.1184862592.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> <1184915128.5996.1.camel@black> <63606.212.203.75.131.1184932489.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> <1184937728.5996.9.camel@black> Message-ID: <3455.212.203.75.131.1184938752.squirrel@mail2.webfaction.com> > The release will be in 2007. :) you know 1 year has 365 days and 31.557.600 seconds. so on witch second your release will be ready :) well I know, waiting, drinking and praying to the wiki gods helps! cya Marcel From gmayes at vmware.com Fri Jul 20 10:55:01 2007 From: gmayes at vmware.com (Geoff Mayes) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 07:55:01 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] File download throttling based on file size? References: <232090.84567.qm@web50911.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <040EC1DE5CE40647A1E7BEECD85F62CB09FB0820@PA-EXCH04.vmware.com> Thank you Rick for sharing your take on this and a nice workaround. Based on your use of fastcgi and another Moin user kindly letting me know that he is able to download large files at speeds ~500KB/s, I believe this is a fastcgi issue and not a Moin issue (we're using fastcgi), unless someone knows/believes otherwise? Another finding I forgot to mention is that while the download speeds directly correlate to file size when all are downloaded at the same time, this direct correlation between file size and download speed also occurs when files are downloaded individually as well. For example, the 270, 140, and 40MB files download at 8, 16, and 33KB/s when downloaded individually. I'm going to bark up the fastcgi tree for a while. Thanks again. Best, Geoff -----Original Message----- From: Rick VanDerveer [mailto:rickvanderveer at yahoo.com] Sent: Thu 7/19/2007 8:35 PM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net; Geoff Mayes Subject: RE: [Moin-user] File download throttling based on file size? Geoff, I've observed similar cases with our organization's internal wiki. I'm using FastCGI for our wiki. I can be COMPLETELY wrong here, but my hypothesis is that FastCGI is only a single process, and therefore isn't able to adequately juggle multiple large downloads. I have one download in particular that nearly causes the wiki to non-responsive for any other users. One silly little work-around I've been using is to set up a Apache alias to a directory outside the moin folders, where I keep large downloads. I then link to those files, Moin treats it as a link to an outside server, and Apache can handle the transfer load easily. Ultimately, it's coming from the same box, but moin isn't serving it and remains as responsive as ever. -Rick -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net on behalf of Geoff Mayes Sent: Thu 7/19/2007 9:04 PM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] File download throttling based on file size? Howdy Moin users! Anyone know if there is some sort of download speed throttling built into MoinMoin? A user just pointed out that large files (> 100MB) are very slow to download whereas small files (< 2MB) download instantaneously. Our Moin instance is only used internally on our intranet. I tested this a bit more and discovered the following: - When downloading 270MB, 140MB, and 40MB files at the same time, they download at 3, 6, and 20KB/s, respectively. This makes me think that Moin is somehow throttling download speed based on file size (e.g. slowing down big files). - It doesn't look like Apache 2.2.3 is the problem because when I move one of these large files directly to webroot (/var/www/html) from the /wiki/data directory, this same file downloads at 1.5MB/s. - I've changed the extension of the filename from .wmv to .ppt, but the same download speeds are observed. - Uploading the 270MB file occurred in less than 4 minutes (~1.5MB/s). Thank you in advance for any further information about this or solutions to configure/disable throttling. Regards, Geoff ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. 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Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From mattnuzum at gmail.com Fri Jul 20 17:39:16 2007 From: mattnuzum at gmail.com (Matthew Nuzum) Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:39:16 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Colour my table In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/20/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > Hi list, > > I try to make my wiki pages a bit less boring. > I try to add colours and images where possible. > One thing I do is give my tables some (alternating) colours. > > Untill now I have coloured them cell by cell, manually inserting the > colour code in the tag. > Isn't there a way to automise this and get my markup code out of my > content (the colour codes make the table completely unreadable)? > Even a way to colour the table row by row instead of cell by cell would be > a great start. > > Well, since your goal is just to add some visual appeal, you could consider something like this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/zebratables Just set it once in your theme and give your table's some identifier so that on page load they get styled automatically. That beats trying to style all of your table rows by hand. Imagine if you gave each row a different row style (row_odd, row_even) so that they could be styled by css rules - then you wanted to add a row somewhere near the top. You'd have to manually change all of your rules for the rows below it. :-P -- Matthew Nuzum newz2000 on freenode -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Use 'rowbgcolor="#ffffcc"' in the first cell of a row to color the whole row. -- Tim ============================= Tim Bird Architecture Group Chair, CE Linux Forum Senior Staff Engineer, Sony Corporation of America ============================= From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Mon Jul 23 03:16:40 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:16:40 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Colour my table In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thx Jim and Tim for the answers and thx Matthew for the link. In a regular HTML page I would defenatly have done so myself, but I didn't think of using this on a moinmoin page too :) Boris On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:39:16 +0200, Matthew Nuzum wrote: > On 7/20/07, Boris Callens wrote: >> >> Hi list, >> >> I try to make my wiki pages a bit less boring. >> I try to add colours and images where possible. >> One thing I do is give my tables some (alternating) colours. >> >> Untill now I have coloured them cell by cell, manually inserting the >> colour code in the tag. >> Isn't there a way to automise this and get my markup code out of my >> content (the colour codes make the table completely unreadable)? >> Even a way to colour the table row by row instead of cell by cell would >> be >> a great start. >> >> > Well, since your goal is just to add some visual appeal, you could > consider > something like this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/zebratables > > Just set it once in your theme and give your table's some identifier so > that > on page load they get styled automatically. > > That beats trying to style all of your table rows by hand. Imagine if you > gave each row a different row style (row_odd, row_even) so that they > could > be styled by css rules - then you wanted to add a row somewhere near the > top. You'd have to manually change all of your rules for the rows below > it. > :-P -- Boris Callens fedEx From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Mon Jul 23 03:51:55 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:51:55 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Colour my table In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Matthew, This trick works with javascripts, correct. Is there an easy way to incorporate this in the MoinMoin pages, or should I be translating the script to Python? I searched the existing MoinMoin scripts for zebra tables, but couldn't find anything. best regards Boris > On 7/20/07, Boris Callens wrote: >> >> Hi list, >> >> I try to make my wiki pages a bit less boring. >> I try to add colours and images where possible. >> One thing I do is give my tables some (alternating) colours. >> >> Untill now I have coloured them cell by cell, manually inserting the >> colour code in the tag. >> Isn't there a way to automise this and get my markup code out of my >> content (the colour codes make the table completely unreadable)? >> Even a way to colour the table row by row instead of cell by cell would >> be >> a great start. >> >> > Well, since your goal is just to add some visual appeal, you could > consider > something like this: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/zebratables > > Just set it once in your theme and give your table's some identifier so > that > on page load they get styled automatically. > > That beats trying to style all of your table rows by hand. Imagine if you > gave each row a different row style (row_odd, row_even) so that they > could > be styled by css rules - then you wanted to add a row somewhere near the > top. You'd have to manually change all of your rules for the rows below > it. > :-P -- Boris Callens fedEx From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Mon Jul 23 04:42:56 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:42:56 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Include external HTML page? Message-ID: Dear list, Is there a way to include an external HTML file in the wiki pages? At the firm we have already a webapp that dynamically monitors our message queue servers. It would be great if I could just include these pages into the wiki, so the information is kept up to date automaticly by the already existing pages. I found this Macro to create frames on wiki pages: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket/Frame If only I could give it the content of this external webapp .. Rgeards Boris Callens fedEx From hgerlach at gmx.de Mon Jul 23 06:28:03 2007 From: hgerlach at gmx.de (Henryk Gerlach) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:28:03 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Include external HTML page? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070723102803.41290@gmx.net> Hey Boris, > Is there a way to include an external HTML file in the wiki pages? since this seems to be a common question, I followed the advise of Thomas Waldman (if I remember correctly) and wrote some IFrame-Macro. I have no idea if IFrames could be used for Cross Site Scripting or other nasty stuff. Furhtermore the implementation does not check anything, so the macro may be itself exploitable. In short: don't use it, if untrusted people have write-access to your wiki. Since I don't believe it is ready for prime time, I attached it only to this Mail and didn't put it on MacroMarket. Cheers, Henryk -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: IFrame.py Type: application/x-python Size: 993 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pascal.bauermeister at gmail.com Mon Jul 23 13:06:25 2007 From: pascal.bauermeister at gmail.com (Pascal Bauermeister) Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:06:25 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Include external HTML page? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1fccceaf0707231006y9ef71dbw1bacd80c90ce9da0@mail.gmail.com> Hi Boris, this macro does it: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/UrlGrab It can even: - log-in (you may hide credentials in wikiconfig.py) - set some cookies - display part of the grabbed page (filter) - it cannot post an arbitrary form (yet) The mentioned wiki page surely misses some comprehensive examples, so do not hestitate to ask. Pascal On 7/23/07, Boris Callens wrote: > Dear list, > > Is there a way to include an external HTML file in the wiki pages? > At the firm we have already a webapp that dynamically monitors our message > queue servers. > It would be great if I could just include these pages into the wiki, so > the information is kept up to date automaticly by the already existing > pages. > > I found this Macro to create frames on wiki pages: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket/Frame > > If only I could give it the content of this external webapp .. > > Rgeards > Boris Callens > fedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de Tue Jul 24 05:26:00 2007 From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase) Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 11:26:00 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Include external HTML page? In-Reply-To: <1fccceaf0707231006y9ef71dbw1bacd80c90ce9da0@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fccceaf0707231006y9ef71dbw1bacd80c90ce9da0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Pascal, This is fantastic ! However, I would now like to include a page like Yahoo-Calendars into our wiki. How do I get ahold of a "template" cookie file ? Overall I want to different calendar pages - different login/password ... Some comment - at bottom of your UrlGrab page - notes that it might be "infinitely" complex to learn all the arguments/options/syntax you implements - what is your comment to that !? Any help/ pointer on how to deal with cookies would be nice. Thanks, Sebastian Haase On 7/23/07, Pascal Bauermeister wrote: > Hi Boris, > > this macro does it: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/UrlGrab > > It can even: > - log-in (you may hide credentials in wikiconfig.py) > - set some cookies > - display part of the grabbed page (filter) > - it cannot post an arbitrary form (yet) > > The mentioned wiki page surely misses some comprehensive examples, so > do not hestitate to ask. > > Pascal > > > > > On 7/23/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > Is there a way to include an external HTML file in the wiki pages? > > At the firm we have already a webapp that dynamically monitors our message > > queue servers. > > It would be great if I could just include these pages into the wiki, so > > the information is kept up to date automaticly by the already existing > > pages. > > > > I found this Macro to create frames on wiki pages: > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket/Frame > > > > If only I could give it the content of this external webapp .. > > > > Rgeards > > Boris Callens > > fedEx From rupert.thurner at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 18:57:48 2007 From: rupert.thurner at gmail.com (rupert THURNER) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:57:48 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] personal edition does not listen on all ports? Message-ID: <6af4270707241557g4d71f8e8jd9fd2a8e96c8f4d5@mail.gmail.com> hi, is it possible that personal edition just listens on localhost? if yes, how would it be possible to convince it to listen to other ports too? many thanks, rupert -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rickvanderveer at yahoo.com Wed Jul 25 14:50:30 2007 From: rickvanderveer at yahoo.com (Rick VanDerveer) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 11:50:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Moin-user] personal edition does not listen on all ports? Message-ID: <663858.68861.qm@web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> The How to Configure page has the instructions you're looking for (yes, it's very possible to use DesktopEdition as your regular wiki, if you like): http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/DesktopEdition/HowToConfigure From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of rupert THURNER Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:58 PM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] personal edition does not listen on all ports? hi, is it possible that personal edition just listens on localhost? if yes, how would it be possible to convince it to listen to other ports too? many thanks, rupert ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/ From pascal.bauermeister at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 14:50:40 2007 From: pascal.bauermeister at gmail.com (Pascal Bauermeister) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:50:40 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Include external HTML page? In-Reply-To: References: <1fccceaf0707231006y9ef71dbw1bacd80c90ce9da0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1fccceaf0707251150y5f63c766t6e5d3ab9a2dc31d@mail.gmail.com> Hi Sebastian, after taking a short look, it appears to me that auto-logging in into Yahoo is beyond the scope of this macro. Indeed, the form to fill for the "Sign-in to Yahoo!" is quite tricky (in Firefox, press ctrl-i and look at the Form tab). So it is not yet a question of cookies... If someone knows some Python code to auto-login into Yahoo, I can try to integrate it. Cheers, Pascal On 7/24/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > Hi Pascal, > This is fantastic ! > However, I would now like to include a page like Yahoo-Calendars into our wiki. > How do I get ahold of a "template" cookie file ? Overall I want to > different calendar pages - different login/password ... > > Some comment - at bottom of your UrlGrab page - notes that it might be > "infinitely" complex to learn all the arguments/options/syntax you > implements - what is your comment to that !? > > Any help/ pointer on how to deal with cookies would be nice. > > Thanks, > Sebastian Haase > > > > > > On 7/23/07, Pascal Bauermeister wrote: > > Hi Boris, > > > > this macro does it: > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/UrlGrab > > > > It can even: > > - log-in (you may hide credentials in wikiconfig.py) > > - set some cookies > > - display part of the grabbed page (filter) > > - it cannot post an arbitrary form (yet) > > > > The mentioned wiki page surely misses some comprehensive examples, so > > do not hestitate to ask. > > > > Pascal > > > > > > > > > > On 7/23/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > > Dear list, > > > > > > Is there a way to include an external HTML file in the wiki pages? > > > At the firm we have already a webapp that dynamically monitors our message > > > queue servers. > > > It would be great if I could just include these pages into the wiki, so > > > the information is kept up to date automaticly by the already existing > > > pages. > > > > > > I found this Macro to create frames on wiki pages: > > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket/Frame > > > > > > If only I could give it the content of this external webapp .. > > > > > > Rgeards > > > Boris Callens > > > fedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Thu Jul 26 08:51:31 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 14:51:31 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Include external HTML page? In-Reply-To: <1fccceaf0707251200q484479c7s8523b1ba3623e3da@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fccceaf0707231006y9ef71dbw1bacd80c90ce9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1fccceaf0707251200q484479c7s8523b1ba3623e3da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, probably the references are f****d u. Well, that's ok. There's just too much development involved for a relative small gain. Furthermore, could you enlighten me a bit on how to put just parts of the html in the wiki? Can I say, from tag

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Don'tNeedThisPartNoMore That would be mathematical! Boris On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:00:57 +0200, Pascal Bauermeister wrote: > Hi Boris, > > normally, unless you filter out some parts, JS should be included. But > be aware that, since the wiki page and the grabbed page are merged > into a single page, some side effects exist: > > 1. CSS get mixed > 2. JS in the grabbed page, that rely on the page's object tree, get > confused > 3. probably a lot more > > So what you observed may well be due to 2. above and the fact that > they contain JS (but nothing to do with JSP). > > Pascal > > > On 7/24/07, Boris Callens wrote: >> Thx, solved my problem indeed. >> Have a question though. >> Is it possible that it blocks javascripts or something? >> My included pages are JSP's and the buttons on it don't work anymore >> when >> included. >> >> Boris >> >> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 19:06:25 +0200, Pascal Bauermeister >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Boris, >> > >> > this macro does it: >> > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/UrlGrab >> > >> > It can even: >> > - log-in (you may hide credentials in wikiconfig.py) >> > - set some cookies >> > - display part of the grabbed page (filter) >> > - it cannot post an arbitrary form (yet) >> > >> > The mentioned wiki page surely misses some comprehensive examples, so >> > do not hestitate to ask. >> > >> > Pascal >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On 7/23/07, Boris Callens wrote: >> >> Dear list, >> >> >> >> Is there a way to include an external HTML file in the wiki pages? >> >> At the firm we have already a webapp that dynamically monitors our >> >> message >> >> queue servers. >> >> It would be great if I could just include these pages into the wiki, >> so >> >> the information is kept up to date automaticly by the already >> existing >> >> pages. >> >> >> >> I found this Macro to create frames on wiki pages: >> >> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket/Frame >> >> >> >> If only I could give it the content of this external webapp .. >> >> >> >> Rgeards >> >> Boris Callens >> >> fedEx >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a >> browser. >> >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Moin-user mailing list >> >> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >> >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Boris Callens >> fedEx >> -- Boris Callens fedEx From mail at heavy.ch Thu Jul 26 14:41:31 2007 From: mail at heavy.ch (mail at heavy.ch) Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 20:41:31 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Include external HTML page? In-Reply-To: <1fccceaf0707251150y5f63c766t6e5d3ab9a2dc31d@mail.gmail.com> References: <1fccceaf0707231006y9ef71dbw1bacd80c90ce9da0@mail.gmail.com> <1fccceaf0707251150y5f63c766t6e5d3ab9a2dc31d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1185475291.5774.7.camel@lestat.vampyre.home> Hi there you may could create your own makro like [[YahooCalendar(paramter)]]. that would just return an simple html iframe with your url to the yahoo calendar. see the HTML.py Macro under http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/macro/HTML.py for reference, but this one could be a high security risk for your users... well. it doesn't help to auto login into you yahoo stuff. cya Marcel Am Mittwoch, den 25.07.2007, 20:50 +0200 schrieb Pascal Bauermeister: > Hi Sebastian, > > after taking a short look, it appears to me that auto-logging in into > Yahoo is beyond the scope of this macro. Indeed, the form to fill for > the "Sign-in to Yahoo!" is quite tricky (in Firefox, press ctrl-i and > look at the Form tab). > > So it is not yet a question of cookies... > > If someone knows some Python code to auto-login into Yahoo, I can try > to integrate it. > > Cheers, > > Pascal > > > On 7/24/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > > Hi Pascal, > > This is fantastic ! > > However, I would now like to include a page like Yahoo-Calendars into our wiki. > > How do I get ahold of a "template" cookie file ? Overall I want to > > different calendar pages - different login/password ... > > > > Some comment - at bottom of your UrlGrab page - notes that it might be > > "infinitely" complex to learn all the arguments/options/syntax you > > implements - what is your comment to that !? > > > > Any help/ pointer on how to deal with cookies would be nice. > > > > Thanks, > > Sebastian Haase > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/23/07, Pascal Bauermeister wrote: > > > Hi Boris, > > > > > > this macro does it: > > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/UrlGrab > > > > > > It can even: > > > - log-in (you may hide credentials in wikiconfig.py) > > > - set some cookies > > > - display part of the grabbed page (filter) > > > - it cannot post an arbitrary form (yet) > > > > > > The mentioned wiki page surely misses some comprehensive examples, so > > > do not hestitate to ask. > > > > > > Pascal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/23/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > > > Dear list, > > > > > > > > Is there a way to include an external HTML file in the wiki pages? > > > > At the firm we have already a webapp that dynamically monitors our message > > > > queue servers. > > > > It would be great if I could just include these pages into the wiki, so > > > > the information is kept up to date automaticly by the already existing > > > > pages. > > > > > > > > I found this Macro to create frames on wiki pages: > > > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket/Frame > > > > > > > > If only I could give it the content of this external webapp .. > > > > > > > > Rgeards > > > > Boris Callens > > > > fedEx > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From rupert.thurner at gmail.com Sat Jul 28 09:15:13 2007 From: rupert.thurner at gmail.com (rupert THURNER) Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 15:15:13 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] personal edition does not listen on all ports? In-Reply-To: <663858.68861.qm@web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <663858.68861.qm@web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6af4270707280615w56485198j1323279e7dbd133c@mail.gmail.com> many thanks, i see there is a " wikiserverconfig.py " which does exactly this ! On 7/25/07, Rick VanDerveer wrote: > > The How to Configure page has the instructions you're > looking for (yes, it's very possible to use DesktopEdition as your regular > wiki, > if you like): > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/DesktopEdition/HowToConfigure > > > > > From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net > [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of rupert > THURNER > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:58 PM > To: > moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Moin-user] personal edition > does not listen on all ports? > > > > hi, > > is it possible that personal edition just listens on > localhost? if yes, how would it be possible to convince it to listen to > other > ports too? > > many thanks, > > rupert > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for a deal? 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URL: From rupert.thurner at gmail.com Sun Jul 29 05:16:58 2007 From: rupert.thurner at gmail.com (rupert THURNER) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:16:58 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] spam protection comparison In-Reply-To: <1184508462.29921.5.camel@black> References: <6af4270707132001u2a5230c0s5d50fc200d53c8bd@mail.gmail.com> <1184508462.29921.5.camel@black> Message-ID: <6af4270707290216l20ab91a0x78b5378e0507b37@mail.gmail.com> thanks a lot! how does this "distributed regex list" work? on some public moins you see that there is a spam page which gets updated? is the administrator doing this manually or is there something built into the software? On 7/15/07, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > > Currently moin can block spam (or abuse) by: > * checking saved page content against a distributed regex list > * checking ip against a hosts_deny list > * checking some things that only dumb spam bots do, but not a normal > user with a browser > * using surge protection: if some script tries to do too many edits in > some time unit, it will be locked out > > If some spam happens, you can simply revert it (see info action). > > For the wiki admin, there is even a despam action that makes mass revert > easy. > > Of course you can also use ACLs to only allow editing for registered > users or even registered and verified users. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express > Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take > control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. > http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Mon Jul 30 04:37:57 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:37:57 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Internal link to specified Header Message-ID: Hi list, I was wondering whether it is possible to link to a specific header on an internal page. Something like [wiki:PageName.HeaderCaption plainTextCaption] would be feasible I guess. Regards Boris Callens FedEx From rupert.thurner at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 05:47:05 2007 From: rupert.thurner at gmail.com (rupert THURNER) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:47:05 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Internal link to specified Header In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6af4270707300247v7124db6cld6618453931e02de@mail.gmail.com> check at http://wiki.debian.org frontpage, they use such anchors behind the "more .." links. On 7/30/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > Hi list, > > I was wondering whether it is possible to link to a specific header on an > internal page. > Something like [wiki:PageName.HeaderCaption plainTextCaption] would be > feasible I guess. > > Regards > Boris Callens > FedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lektorat at martin-radke.de Mon Jul 30 05:42:19 2007 From: lektorat at martin-radke.de (MartinRadke) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:42:19 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Inheritance of acls ? Message-ID: <20070730114219.00002ecb@unknown> Moin moin, does anyone knows something about inheritance of the acl's from one page to another? The background: I want to use the wiki with different groups. Each member of a group should have read and wright rights for the pages of his group, but only of his group. This is no problem until he likes to make a new page. This page will have no acl's, so everybody can read it. The only way to escape -- as I see so far -- is to give admin rights to the members of the group and to hope, that everybody is so straight to wright the correct acl's on every new page. The following simple mechanism is imaginable: If somebody creates a new page, the new page inherits the acl's of the page from which it was created. This mechanism seems to be suggesting itself but I could not find it in the helpfiles. Thanks for any hints martin -- Martin Radke, Lektorat & Redaktion Am-Speicher-XI 9 28217 Bremen Germany fon: +49 421 835 3615 fax: +49 421 222 4837 From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Mon Jul 30 06:05:39 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:05:39 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Inheritance of acls ? In-Reply-To: <20070730114219.00002ecb@unknown> References: <20070730114219.00002ecb@unknown> Message-ID: I didn't check this, but I think subpages inherit the ACLs of their parents. So it might be a good idea to search in that direction. Please keep me updated if you find something out. Boris On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:42:19 +0200, MartinRadke wrote: > Moin moin, > > does anyone knows something about inheritance of the acl's from one page > to another? > > The background: > I want to use the wiki with different groups. Each member of a group > should have read and wright rights for the pages of his group, but only > of his group. > This is no problem until he likes to make a new page. This page will > have no acl's, so everybody can read it. The only way to escape -- as I > see so far -- is to give admin rights to the members of the group and to > hope, that everybody is so straight to wright the correct acl's on every > new page. > > The following simple mechanism is imaginable: If somebody creates a new > page, the new page inherits the acl's of the page from which it was > created. > > This mechanism seems to be suggesting itself but I could not find it in > the helpfiles. > > Thanks for any hints > > martin > -- Boris Callens fedEx From thurner.rupert at redleo.org Mon Jul 30 07:31:22 2007 From: thurner.rupert at redleo.org (THURNER rupert) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:31:22 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] transfer acl from categories? (was inherit acls?) Message-ID: <6af4270707300431qf0a0e24w823556e7658a0f6@mail.gmail.com> we handle "inherit acl" with group templates ... which is not inheriting but "copy". see also: * http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/SubPageInheritsAcl * http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnTemplates * http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnAutoAdmin * http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/TransferAclFromTemplatePage with 1.6, copy page will allow to create a page with the acl, even if you have not admin right to set the acl. but we are missing depsperately: * display only my groups templates, not other group templates this leads to overflow of template selection. * transfer the acl from categories, which would allow have access control defined by categories inherit the category templates acl would mean: * introduce a "transfer_acl=true" * if this is set, copy all the categories acl into the page * if a categories acl is changed, this is copied to all pages in this category * as this takes time, it has to made sure "restart" is possible in case of server crash. rupert On 7/30/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > I didn't check this, but I think subpages inherit the ACLs of their > parents. > So it might be a good idea to search in that direction. > > Please keep me updated if you find something out. > > Boris > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:42:19 +0200, MartinRadke > wrote: > > > Moin moin, > > > > does anyone knows something about inheritance of the acl's from one page > > to another? > > > > The background: > > I want to use the wiki with different groups. Each member of a group > > should have read and wright rights for the pages of his group, but only > > of his group. > > This is no problem until he likes to make a new page. This page will > > have no acl's, so everybody can read it. The only way to escape -- as I > > see so far -- is to give admin rights to the members of the group and to > > hope, that everybody is so straight to wright the correct acl's on every > > new page. > > > > The following simple mechanism is imaginable: If somebody creates a new > > page, the new page inherits the acl's of the page from which it was > > created. > > > > This mechanism seems to be suggesting itself but I could not find it in > > the helpfiles. > > > > Thanks for any hints > > > > martin > > > > > > -- > Boris Callens > fedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Mon Jul 30 08:39:25 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:39:25 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Internal link to specified Header In-Reply-To: <6af4270707300247v7124db6cld6618453931e02de@mail.gmail.com> References: <6af4270707300247v7124db6cld6618453931e02de@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From what I can make up from that site, that technique requires me to put anchors in the target page. I was looking for a way that doesn't need this or can take a Headertext (or maybe a regexp) as an anchor. Boris On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:47:05 +0200, rupert THURNER wrote: > check at http://wiki.debian.org frontpage, they use such anchors behind > the > "more .." links. > > On 7/30/07, Boris Callens wrote: >> >> Hi list, >> >> I was wondering whether it is possible to link to a specific header on >> an >> internal page. >> Something like [wiki:PageName.HeaderCaption plainTextCaption] would be >> feasible I guess. >> >> Regards >> Boris Callens >> FedEx >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. >> Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. >> Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. >> Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Moin-user mailing list >> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user >> -- Boris Callens fedEx From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de Mon Jul 30 08:48:01 2007 From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:48:01 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) Message-ID: Hi, this one was even hard to google ... Obviously moinmoin in implemented in Python... My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / edit pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? Obviously one could start with the standard python library, open a TCP socket and just do web server access "by hand". a) which are the most appropriate standard lib modules to be used for this ? b) is there maybe even already some API - i.e. some pyMoinMoin or alike module - which simplifies accessing moinmoin wikis from outside? (note: by outside, I referring to the possible confusion, since moinmoin is also python "on the inside") I'm also thinking about edit-locks and attachments, oh, and: user log-ins. Thanks, Sebastian Haase From thurner.rupert at redleo.org Mon Jul 30 09:15:55 2007 From: thurner.rupert at redleo.org (THURNER rupert) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:15:55 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6af4270707300615s6b9ee28ub1cc00ed97f9f841@mail.gmail.com> hard to google??? aehm ... http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiSyncronisation On 7/30/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > > Hi, > this one was even hard to google ... > Obviously moinmoin in implemented in Python... > > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / edit > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? > > Obviously one could start with the standard python library, open a TCP > socket and just do web server access "by hand". > > a) which are the most appropriate standard lib modules to be used for this > ? > > b) is there maybe even already some API - i.e. some pyMoinMoin or > alike module - which simplifies accessing moinmoin wikis from outside? > > (note: by outside, I referring to the possible confusion, since > moinmoin is also python "on the inside") > > I'm also thinking about edit-locks and attachments, oh, and: user log-ins. > > Thanks, > Sebastian Haase > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de Mon Jul 30 09:30:02 2007 From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:30:02 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: <6af4270707300615s6b9ee28ub1cc00ed97f9f841@mail.gmail.com> References: <6af4270707300615s6b9ee28ub1cc00ed97f9f841@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 7/30/07, THURNER rupert wrote: > hard to google??? aehm ... > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiSyncronisation > Thanks for the reply . But I don't get !! Why "Syncronisation" ? What did you type into google ? And there are so many titles and details on that page - that I don't know what it does ! Going by the "Objective" - section on http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnSynchronisation it seems that it requires "one of the two wikis" to be on my computer ?! I.e.: do I have to have a moinmoin installed ? I would appreciate some additional hints ;-) -Sebastian > > On 7/30/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > > > > Hi, > > this one was even hard to google ... > > Obviously moinmoin in implemented in Python... > > > > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / edit > > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? > > > > Obviously one could start with the standard python library, open a TCP > > socket and just do web server access "by hand". > > > > a) which are the most appropriate standard lib modules to be used for this > ? > > > > b) is there maybe even already some API - i.e. some pyMoinMoin or > > alike module - which simplifies accessing moinmoin wikis from outside? > > > > (note: by outside, I referring to the possible confusion, since > > moinmoin is also python "on the inside") > > > > I'm also thinking about edit-locks and attachments, oh, and: user log-ins. > > > > Thanks, > > Sebastian Haase > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > From mario.paolucci at gmail.com Mon Jul 30 09:56:12 2007 From: mario.paolucci at gmail.com (Mario Paolucci) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 15:56:12 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Login links to UserPreferences only after update Message-ID: <6247e69d0707300656u13ef0a24xe39ac006cda4a055@mail.gmail.com> I've just upgraded to 1.3.8 on Ubuntu server. There is no link that logs in the system; the "Login" link goes to UserPrefences only. On that page, I can create accounts but I cannot log in. Typing directly "http://emil.istc.cnr.it/emilwiki/moin.cgi?action=login" works, but of course this is not a solution. After I log in this way, operation seems to be normal. I've double checked the underlay and the /usr/share/moin/htdocs directories; they seem to be the last version... Anybody else had this problem? Thank you for any hint Mario Test follows (I dont' think it's useful, but who knows): MoinMoin Diagnosis ====================== Release 1.5.8 Revision release Python version 2.4.3 (#2, Oct 6 2006, 07:52:30) [GCC 4.0.3 (Ubuntu 4.0.3-1ubuntu5)] Python installed to /usr PyXML is installed Python Path: /mnt/wikis/emilwiki/ /mnt/wikis/emilwiki/cgi-bin /usr/lib/python24.zip /usr/lib/python2.4 /usr/lib/python2.4/plat-linux2 /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-tk /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload /usr/local/lib/python2.4/site-packages /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages Checking directories... data directory tests OK (set to '/mnt/wikis/XXXXXX/data') user directory tests OK (set to '/mnt/wikis/XXXXXX/data/user') Server Environment: ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST! Unit Tests: testComment01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testComment02 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testHeading01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testHeading02 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testListSuccess01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testListSuccess02 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testListSuccess03 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testListSuccess04 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testListSuccess05 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... 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FAIL testTable04 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testTable05 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testTable06 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBlockRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testList01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertBrokenBrowserTests) ... ok testEmphasis01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis02 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis03 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis04 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis05 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis06 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis07 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis08 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis09 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis10 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testEmphasis11 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testFormatBig01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testFormatSmall01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testFormatStrike01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testFormatSub01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testFormatSup01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testFormatUnderline01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testPre01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testWhitespace01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineFormatRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testNoWikiWord01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineItemRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testSmiley01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineItemRepeatableTests) ... FAIL testWikiWord01 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.ConvertInlineItemRepeatableTests) ... FAIL test1 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.StripWhitespaceTests) ... ERROR test2 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.StripWhitespaceTests) ... ERROR test3 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.StripWhitespaceTests) ... ERROR test4 (MoinMoin._tests.test_converter_text_html_text_x_moin.StripWhitespaceTests) ... ERROR error: access error like a dict ... ok error: create with encoded string ... ok error: create with any object ... ok error: create with unicode ... ok testSyntaxReference (MoinMoin._tests.test_formatter.FormatterTestCase) ... Formatting using ERROR new locking: NoLockingForReading tests if files still work when filename is target of a rename ... ok testQuoting (MoinMoin._tests.test_packages.QuotingTestCase) ... ok testBasicPackageThings (MoinMoin._tests.test_packages.UnsafePackageTestcase) ... ERROR Page: page.exists() finds existing pages only ... ok PageEditor: expand @USERNAME@ CamelCase ... ok PageEditor: expand @USERNAME@ extended name - enabled ... ok PageEditor: expand @MAILTO@ ... ok PageEditor: expand user variables ... ok PageEditor: expand general variables ... ok parser.wiki: empty lines before block element ignored ... FAIL parser.wiki: paragraph closed before block element ... FAIL parser.wiki: close open inline tag when block close ... FAIL parser.wiki: DateTime macro ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in getText formatted call with link ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in getText formatted call ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in GetText macro ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in getText non formatted call ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in pre ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in pre with hashbang ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in python code area ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in `tt` ... ok parser.wiki: escape html markup in {{{tt}}} ... ok parser.wiki: escape wiki table markup in pre ... ok parser.wiki: escape wiki table markup in pre with hashbang ... ok parser.wiki: escape wiki table markup in python code area ... ok parser.wiki: escape wiki table markup in `tt` ... ok parser.wiki: escape wiki table markup in {{{tt}}} ... ok parser.wiki: ignore white space around heading text ... FAIL parser.wiki: empty line separates paragraphs ... FAIL parser.wiki: first paragraph should be in

... FAIL parser.wiki: create paragraph after block markup ... FAIL parser.wiki: ------------ long rule shortened to hr6 ... FAIL parser.wiki: --- is no rule ... ok parser.wiki: ---- is standard rule ... FAIL parser.wiki: ----- rules with size ... FAIL parser.wiki: TOC links to headings with white space ... ok parser.wiki: text formating ... ok pysupport: import existing wiki plugin ... ok pysupport: import name from existing module ... ok pysupport: import nonexistent attritbue raises AttributeError ... ok pysupport: import nonexistent module raises ImportError ... ok pysupport: import nonexistent wiki plugin fail ... ok repair_language: should replace known language ... ok repair_language: return crlf line endings ... ok repair_language: should not replace in page body ... ok repair_language: should not replace unknown langauge ... ok request: normalize pagename: restrict groups to alpha numeric Unicode ... ok request: httpDate default rfc1123 ... ok request: httpDate rfc850 ... ok request: normalize pagename: normalize slashes ... ok request: normalize pagename: normalize whitespace ... ok request: normalize pagename: remove invalid unicode chars ... ok request: normalize pagename: underscore convert to spaces and normalized ... ok search: quoting bug - unquoted terms ... ok search: quoting bug - quoted terms ... ok user: encode ascii password ... ok user: encode unicode password ... ok user: isValidName: reject group names ... ok user: isValidName: reject unicode non alpha numeric characters ... ok user: isValidName: accept names in any language, with spaces ... ok user: isValidName: reject leading, trailing or multiple whitespace ... ok user: login with ascii password ... ok user: login with non-ascii password in pre 1.3 user file ... ok user: login replace old non-ascii password in pre 1.3 user file ... ok user: login with non-ascii password ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: acquire ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: acquire after timeout ... ok util.lock: os.stat().mtime consistency with time.time() ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: lock is exclusive ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: exists ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: expire ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: isExpired ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: isLocked ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: release ... ok util.lock: ExclusiveLock: raise ValueError for timeout < 2.0 ... ok util.mail: encode address: 'Phrase ' ... ok util.mail: encode Uncode address: '???? ' ... ok util.mail: encode address with empty address: 'Phrase <>' ... ok util.mail: encode address with empty phrase: '' ... ok util.mail: encode invalid address 'Phrase References: <6af4270707300615s6b9ee28ub1cc00ed97f9f841@mail.gmail.com> <6af4270707300652y4c611adajcafd5f1ea249d4b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Please let me rephrase this - of course it' not hard to googl that moinmoin in written in Python. My point is - because of that ! - it's seems impossible for me to determine how to access moinmoin from python if your code is not running on the wiki's server. -Seb. > > > > Hi, > > > > this one was even hard to google ... > > > > Obviously moinmoin in implemented in Python... > > > > > > > > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / edit > > > > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? > > > > > > > > Obviously one could start with the standard python library, open a TCP > > > > socket and just do web server access "by hand". > > > > > > > > a) which are the most appropriate standard lib modules to be used for > this > > > ? > > > > > > > > b) is there maybe even already some API - i.e. some pyMoinMoin or > > > > alike module - which simplifies accessing moinmoin wikis from outside? > > > > > > > > (note: by outside, I referring to the possible confusion, since > > > > moinmoin is also python "on the inside") > > > > > > > > I'm also thinking about edit-locks and attachments, oh, and: user > log-ins. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Sebastian Haase > > > > From lists at idiacomputing.com Mon Jul 30 10:17:45 2007 From: lists at idiacomputing.com (George Dinwiddie) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 10:17:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: References: <6af4270707300615s6b9ee28ub1cc00ed97f9f841@mail.gmail.com> <6af4270707300652y4c611adajcafd5f1ea249d4b1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18384.63.240.121.48.1185805065.squirrel@webmail.idiacomputing.com> Sebastian, Since, from another machine, a moinmoin instance is just like any other webserver, accessing it using Python is just like scripting any other web access. What "THURNER rupert" was suggesting is that there is a second way to access a moinmoin instance, and that's the way that one instance synchronizes with another. Perhaps that API will help you, and perhaps not. Hope that helps, George On Mon, July 30, 2007 10:06, Sebastian Haase wrote: > Please let me rephrase this - of course it' not hard to googl that > moinmoin in written in Python. > > My point is - because of that ! - it's seems impossible for me to > determine how to access moinmoin from python if your code is not > running on the wiki's server. > > -Seb. > > > >> > > > Hi, >> > > > this one was even hard to google ... >> > > > Obviously moinmoin in implemented in Python... >> > > > >> > > > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / >> edit >> > > > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? >> > > > >> > > > Obviously one could start with the standard python library, open a >> TCP >> > > > socket and just do web server access "by hand". >> > > > >> > > > a) which are the most appropriate standard lib modules to be used >> for >> this >> > > ? >> > > > >> > > > b) is there maybe even already some API - i.e. some pyMoinMoin or >> > > > alike module - which simplifies accessing moinmoin wikis from >> outside? >> > > > >> > > > (note: by outside, I referring to the possible confusion, since >> > > > moinmoin is also python "on the inside") >> > > > >> > > > I'm also thinking about edit-locks and attachments, oh, and: user >> log-ins. >> > > > >> > > > Thanks, >> > > > Sebastian Haase -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * George Dinwiddie * http://blog.gdinwiddie.com Software Development http://www.idiacomputing.com Consultant and Coach http://www.agilemaryland.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From robert.seeger at orsoft.de Mon Jul 30 11:04:07 2007 From: robert.seeger at orsoft.de (Robert Seeger (OR Soft)) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:04:07 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <00ab01c7d2ba$e1320450$7202a8c0@orsxrs> Wiki Synch is just an application that uses the "API" you're looking for - this is based on XMLRPC. Some basics about that can be found at http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiRpc. You need python or other programming tools, but no MoinMoin on the client. I never played much with it, so don't ask me any details ;-(( Kind Regards, Robert P.S. googling for moin-related issues rarely makes sense - better use the search inside http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de!. > -----Original Message----- > From: Sebastian Haase [mailto:sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de] > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 3:30 PM > To: THURNER rupert > Cc: moin Users > Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from > outside) > > > On 7/30/07, THURNER rupert wrote: > > hard to google??? aehm ... > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/WikiSyncronisation > > > Thanks for the reply . > But I don't get !! > Why "Syncronisation" ? > What did you type into google ? > > And there are so many titles and details on that page - that I don't > know what it does ! > Going by the "Objective" - section on > http://master.moinmo.in/HelpOnSynchronisation > it seems that it requires "one of the two wikis" to be on my computer > ?! I.e.: do I have to have a moinmoin installed ? > > I would appreciate some additional hints ;-) > > -Sebastian > > > > > > > > On 7/30/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > this one was even hard to google ... > > > Obviously moinmoin in implemented in Python... > > > > > > My question however is: What is the best way to create / > read / edit > > > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? > > > > > > Obviously one could start with the standard python > library, open a TCP > > > socket and just do web server access "by hand". > > > > > > a) which are the most appropriate standard lib modules to > be used for this > > ? > > > > > > b) is there maybe even already some API - i.e. some pyMoinMoin or > > > alike module - which simplifies accessing moinmoin wikis > from outside? > > > > > > (note: by outside, I referring to the possible confusion, since > > > moinmoin is also python "on the inside") > > > > > > I'm also thinking about edit-locks and attachments, oh, > and: user log-ins. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Sebastian Haase > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX > and a browser. > > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Moin-user mailing list > > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > > > > > > > From sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de Tue Jul 31 03:10:38 2007 From: sebastian.haase at mdc-berlin.de (Sebastian Haase) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:10:38 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/31/07, Tyler Oderkirk wrote: > On 7/30/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / edit > > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? > > Hi Sebastian, > > Maybe this utility's source can be of some use: > > "A script to update a remote MoinMoin Wiki from files in the file > system or another MoinMoin using MoinMoin's XML-RPC interface." -- > http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/ > > -Tyler Hi Tyler, thanks for the link, and for making your code accessible. Isn't http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/remoteMoin more what I want !? I have to admit that I don't fully see the difference between moinupdate and remoteMoin. Comment: your section "PREREQUISITES" (http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/manual.html) is written more like a list of "what cannot do" - rather than "what you need run moinupdate at all"... where does one get this remoteMoin plugin from ? Comment2: otherwise super well documented by the way !! congratulations. I just came accross the page of Anders Eurenius. http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/AndersEurenius He has a seemingly minimal yet powerful tool. He calls it: wikiup.py Does anyone here know if that works !? (The help string does seem "well maintained" - e.g. it says: "-n,--dry-run actually do the updates" ;-) ) Final question: are action=xmlrpc and action=xmlrpc2 part of a default MoinMoin ver. 1.5 installation ? (I am so far using the DesktopEdition - but consider switching...) Thanks for all the hints, Sebastian From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Tue Jul 31 03:38:17 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:38:17 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sebastian, Care filling us in on what your project will contain exactly? Just being curious. Boris On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:10:38 +0200, Sebastian Haase wrote: > On 7/31/07, Tyler Oderkirk wrote: >> On 7/30/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: >> > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / edit >> > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? >> >> Hi Sebastian, >> >> Maybe this utility's source can be of some use: >> >> "A script to update a remote MoinMoin Wiki from files in the file >> system or another MoinMoin using MoinMoin's XML-RPC interface." -- >> http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/ >> >> -Tyler > Hi Tyler, > thanks for the link, and for making your code accessible. > Isn't http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/remoteMoin > more what I want !? > I have to admit that I don't fully see the difference between > moinupdate and remoteMoin. > Comment: your section "PREREQUISITES" > (http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/manual.html) is > written more like a list of "what cannot do" - rather than "what you > need run moinupdate at all"... > where does one get this remoteMoin plugin from ? > Comment2: otherwise super well documented by the way !! congratulations. > > > > I just came accross the page of Anders Eurenius. > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/AndersEurenius > He has a seemingly minimal yet powerful tool. He calls it: > wikiup.py > Does anyone here know if that works !? > (The help string does seem "well maintained" - e.g. it says: > "-n,--dry-run actually do the updates" ;-) ) > > Final question: are > action=xmlrpc > and > action=xmlrpc2 > part of a default MoinMoin ver. 1.5 installation ? > (I am so far using the DesktopEdition - but consider switching...) > > > Thanks for all the hints, > Sebastian > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user -- Boris Callens FedEx From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Tue Jul 31 03:57:57 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:57:57 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Add level with Include macro Message-ID: Hi list, I am trying to make my pages more modular by splitting them all up in several subpages and using the [[Include(/SubPage)]] command on the orignal page to include the subpages. Now I would like to make the inserted pages follow the header levels from the page where they are inserted.\ I googled this and found the syntax for that should be [[Include(/SubPage, level)]] but that just gives me a parsing error. Example:

= MainPageTitle = [[Insert(/SubPage)]] = SubPageTitle = Here goes a random text = MainPageTitle = == SubPageTitle == Here goes a random text -- Boris Callens FedEx From seb.haase at gmx.net Tue Jul 31 05:41:53 2007 From: seb.haase at gmx.net (Sebastian Haase) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:41:53 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Boris, of course. So far I'm moslty still collecting ideas. But one example would be using the wiki as some sort of a documantation database ... Explanation: I have a Matlab-like Python ( + numpy) based interactive development environment to do image analysis kind of things. I hought it would be neat, if one could put a log of an interactive session right into the wiki. That way I could do a wiki search over all prior "projects" I did. Also one could think of adding screen shots into those wiki pages. Other people would have access on what and how I did something ... This is an intranet type wiki. -Sebastian On 7/31/07, Boris Callens wrote: > Sebastian, > > Care filling us in on what your project will contain exactly? > Just being curious. > > Boris > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:10:38 +0200, Sebastian Haase > wrote: > > > On 7/31/07, Tyler Oderkirk wrote: > >> On 7/30/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > >> > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / edit > >> > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? > >> > >> Hi Sebastian, > >> > >> Maybe this utility's source can be of some use: > >> > >> "A script to update a remote MoinMoin Wiki from files in the file > >> system or another MoinMoin using MoinMoin's XML-RPC interface." -- > >> http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/ > >> > >> -Tyler > > Hi Tyler, > > thanks for the link, and for making your code accessible. > > Isn't http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/remoteMoin > > more what I want !? > > I have to admit that I don't fully see the difference between > > moinupdate and remoteMoin. > > Comment: your section "PREREQUISITES" > > (http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/manual.html) is > > written more like a list of "what cannot do" - rather than "what you > > need run moinupdate at all"... > > where does one get this remoteMoin plugin from ? > > Comment2: otherwise super well documented by the way !! congratulations. > > > > > > > > I just came accross the page of Anders Eurenius. > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/AndersEurenius > > He has a seemingly minimal yet powerful tool. He calls it: > > wikiup.py > > Does anyone here know if that works !? > > (The help string does seem "well maintained" - e.g. it says: > > "-n,--dry-run actually do the updates" ;-) ) > > > > Final question: are > > action=xmlrpc > > and > > action=xmlrpc2 > > part of a default MoinMoin ver. 1.5 installation ? > > (I am so far using the DesktopEdition - but consider switching...) > > > > > > Thanks for all the hints, > > Sebastian > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > -- > Boris Callens > FedEx > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > Still grepping through log files to find problems? Stop. > Now Search log events and configuration files using AJAX and a browser. > Download your FREE copy of Splunk now >> http://get.splunk.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From robert.seeger at orsoft.de Tue Jul 31 07:42:08 2007 From: robert.seeger at orsoft.de (Robert Seeger (OR Soft)) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:42:08 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Add level with Include macro In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001501c7d367$d3dd5ae0$7202a8c0@orsxrs> Hi Boris, we use this technique massively in our wikis and it is indeed very helpful, especially if you have repetitive parts. The correct syntax for what you want is [[Include(/MySubPage,"title of the header for the include",level)]] In this case, /MySubPage should not start with its own header and its subheaders should start on level+1. See http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnMacros/Include. This states that heading is optional, however that means that you need an empty parameter, e.g. [[Include(/MySubPage, ,level)]] However I recommend to use heading because then you can click on it to go to /MySubPage. Kind Regards, Robert > -----Original Message----- > From: Boris Callens [mailto:boris.callens.osv at fedex.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:58 AM > To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [Moin-user] Add level with Include macro > > > Hi list, > > I am trying to make my pages more modular by splitting them > all up in > several subpages and using the [[Include(/SubPage)]] command on the > orignal page to include the subpages. > > Now I would like to make the inserted pages follow the header > levels from > the page where they are inserted.\ > I googled this and found the syntax for that should be > [[Include(/SubPage, > level)]] but that just gives me a parsing error. > > Example: >
> > > = MainPageTitle = > [[Insert(/SubPage)]] > > > > > > = SubPageTitle = > Here goes a random text > > > > > = MainPageTitle = > == SubPageTitle == > Here goes a random text > > -- > Boris Callens > FedEx > > > From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Tue Jul 31 07:50:20 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:50:20 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Add level with Include macro In-Reply-To: <001501c7d367$d3dd5ae0$7202a8c0@orsxrs> References: <001501c7d367$d3dd5ae0$7202a8c0@orsxrs> Message-ID: Hi Robert, Thx, I indeed forgot to insert the empty parameter. The level you give as a paremeter, is that a restriction (so, only starting that leven, the page should be included) or is it at what level de subpage will be inserted (so all the subpage's levels will be augmented by the paremeter)? Also I noticed that the TableOfContents() macro doesn't support links to the subPage's headers. They are listed, but when you click on them, no action is taken. Any idea how to fix this? Boris On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:42:08 +0200, Robert Seeger (OR Soft) wrote: > Hi Boris, > we use this technique massively in our wikis and it is indeed very > helpful, especially if you have repetitive parts. > The correct syntax for what you want is > > [[Include(/MySubPage,"title of the header for the include",level)]] > > In this case, /MySubPage should not start with its own header and its > subheaders should start on level+1. > > See http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnMacros/Include. This states > that heading is optional, however that means that you need an empty > parameter, e.g. > [[Include(/MySubPage, ,level)]] > > However I recommend to use heading because then you can click on it to > go to /MySubPage. > > Kind Regards, > Robert > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Boris Callens [mailto:boris.callens.osv at fedex.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:58 AM >> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >> Subject: [Moin-user] Add level with Include macro >> >> >> Hi list, >> >> I am trying to make my pages more modular by splitting them >> all up in >> several subpages and using the [[Include(/SubPage)]] command on the >> orignal page to include the subpages. >> >> Now I would like to make the inserted pages follow the header >> levels from >> the page where they are inserted.\ >> I googled this and found the syntax for that should be >> [[Include(/SubPage, >> level)]] but that just gives me a parsing error. >> >> Example: >>
>> >> >> = MainPageTitle = >> [[Insert(/SubPage)]] >> >> >> >> >> >> = SubPageTitle = >> Here goes a random text >> >> >> >> >> = MainPageTitle = >> == SubPageTitle == >> Here goes a random text >> >> -- >> Boris Callens >> FedEx >> >> >> > -- Boris Callens FedEx From boris.callens.osv at fedex.com Tue Jul 31 10:09:30 2007 From: boris.callens.osv at fedex.com (Boris Callens) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:09:30 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Add level with Include macro In-Reply-To: <46AF4068.3020502@thingbag.net> References: <001501c7d367$d3dd5ae0$7202a8c0@orsxrs> <46AF4068.3020502@thingbag.net> Message-ID: Thx for the update On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:00:08 +0200, David Cramer wrote: > There's a bug in the TOC macro. If you use the 'fully qualified' path to > the sub-page, the toc will work: > > [[Include(ParentPage/MySubPage,"title of the header for the > include",level)]] > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/TableOfContentsBrokenForIncludedPages?highlight=%28MoinMoinBugs/%29%7C%28CategoryMoinMoinBugConfirmed%29 > > You might be interested in this feature request: > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/SectionEditing > > David > > > Boris Callens wrote: >> Hi Robert, >> >> Thx, I indeed forgot to insert the empty parameter. >> The level you give as a paremeter, is that a restriction (so, only >> starting that leven, the page should be included) or is it at what >> level de subpage will be inserted (so all the subpage's levels will be >> augmented by the paremeter)? >> >> Also I noticed that the TableOfContents() macro doesn't support links >> to the subPage's headers. >> They are listed, but when you click on them, no action is taken. >> Any idea how to fix this? >> >> Boris >> >> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:42:08 +0200, Robert Seeger (OR Soft) >> wrote: >> >> >>> Hi Boris, >>> we use this technique massively in our wikis and it is indeed very >>> helpful, especially if you have repetitive parts. >>> The correct syntax for what you want is >>> >>> [[Include(/MySubPage,"title of the header for the include",level)]] >>> >>> In this case, /MySubPage should not start with its own header and its >>> subheaders should start on level+1. >>> >>> See http://moinmaster.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnMacros/Include. This >>> states that heading is optional, however that means that you need an >>> empty parameter, e.g. >>> [[Include(/MySubPage, ,level)]] >>> >>> However I recommend to use heading because then you can click on it >>> to go to /MySubPage. >>> >>> Kind Regards, >>> Robert >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Boris Callens [mailto:boris.callens.osv at fedex.com] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 9:58 AM >>>> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >>>> Subject: [Moin-user] Add level with Include macro >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi list, >>>> >>>> I am trying to make my pages more modular by splitting them >>>> all up in >>>> several subpages and using the [[Include(/SubPage)]] command on the >>>> orignal page to include the subpages. >>>> >>>> Now I would like to make the inserted pages follow the header >>>> levels from >>>> the page where they are inserted.\ >>>> I googled this and found the syntax for that should be >>>> [[Include(/SubPage, >>>> level)]] but that just gives me a parsing error. >>>> >>>> Example: >>>>
>>>> >>>> >>>> = MainPageTitle = >>>> [[Insert(/SubPage)]] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> = SubPageTitle = >>>> Here goes a random text >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> = MainPageTitle = >>>> == SubPageTitle == >>>> Here goes a random text >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Boris Callens >>>> FedEx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > -- Boris Callens FedEx From thurner.rupert at redleo.org Tue Jul 31 12:29:20 2007 From: thurner.rupert at redleo.org (THURNER rupert) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:29:20 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Python API to access a moinmoin wiki (from outside) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6af4270707310929xacc7ea2ld72fb2a0300ed0fa@mail.gmail.com> hmm ... i know that thomas&co put irc logs into the wiki, there is even an irc log parser (see http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ParserMarket e.g.) - but i think this is more a manual process, isn't it? copy-paste? rupert. On 7/31/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > > Boris, > of course. So far I'm moslty still collecting ideas. But one example > would be using the wiki as some sort of a documantation database ... > Explanation: I have a Matlab-like Python ( + numpy) based interactive > development environment to do image analysis kind of things. > I hought it would be neat, if one could put a log of an interactive > session right into the wiki. > That way I could do a wiki search over all prior "projects" I did. > Also one could think of adding screen shots into those wiki pages. > Other people would have access on what and how I did something ... > This is an intranet type wiki. > > -Sebastian > > > > On 7/31/07, Boris Callens wrote: > > Sebastian, > > > > Care filling us in on what your project will contain exactly? > > Just being curious. > > > > Boris > > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:10:38 +0200, Sebastian Haase > > wrote: > > > > > On 7/31/07, Tyler Oderkirk wrote: > > >> On 7/30/07, Sebastian Haase wrote: > > >> > My question however is: What is the best way to create / read / > edit > > >> > pages from a (random) python program that I am writing ? > > >> > > >> Hi Sebastian, > > >> > > >> Maybe this utility's source can be of some use: > > >> > > >> "A script to update a remote MoinMoin Wiki from files in the file > > >> system or another MoinMoin using MoinMoin's XML-RPC interface." -- > > >> http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/ > > >> > > >> -Tyler > > > Hi Tyler, > > > thanks for the link, and for making your code accessible. > > > Isn't http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/remoteMoin > > > more what I want !? > > > I have to admit that I don't fully see the difference between > > > moinupdate and remoteMoin. > > > Comment: your section "PREREQUISITES" > > > (http://www.merten-home.de/FreeSoftware/moinupdate/manual.html) is > > > written more like a list of "what cannot do" - rather than "what you > > > need run moinupdate at all"... > > > where does one get this remoteMoin plugin from ? > > > Comment2: otherwise super well documented by the way !! > congratulations. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just came accross the page of Anders Eurenius. > > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/AndersEurenius > > > He has a seemingly minimal yet powerful tool. He calls it: > > > wikiup.py > > > Does anyone here know if that works !? > > > (The help string does seem "well maintained" - e.g. it says: > > > "-n,--dry-run actually do the updates" ;-) ) > > > > > > Final question: are > > > action=xmlrpc > > > and > > > action=xmlrpc2 > > > part of a default MoinMoin ver. 1.5 installation ? > > > (I am so far using the DesktopEdition - but consider switching...) > > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the hints, > > > Sebastian > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. > > > Still grepping through log files to find problems? 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URL: From jackc at hylesanderson.edu Tue Jul 31 14:46:15 2007 From: jackc at hylesanderson.edu (Jack Christensen) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:46:15 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Extremely slow uploads Message-ID: <46AF8377.9050708@hylesanderson.edu> I just installed MoinMoin. Everything seems to work great except extremely slow uploads. An upload of 2k will take several seconds. An upload of ~25k may take minutes. I've searched and all I could find about upload problems was something about binary files on Windows. I'm having difficulty with both text and binary files and I'm on linux. The server is on the same LAN so bandwidth isn't a problem. On the same machine I have PmWiki (which I'm trying to migrate to MoinMoin), and it doesn't have these upload problems so I don't think something is totally messed up with the machine or OS. Here's some info about the install: Ubuntu 7.04 server 32-bit Apache 2.2 Python 2.5 MoinMoin is installed from the source on the web site. Apache and python are installed via aptitude. Here's part of the Apache 2.2 config pointing to it: >>> ScriptAlias /mywiki "/var/moinmoin/hacwiki/cgi-bin/moin.cgi" alias /wiki "/usr/share/moin/htdocs" Order allow,deny allow from all >>> Any suggestions? Thanks! -- Jack Christensen jackc at hylesanderson.edu From jackc at hylesanderson.edu Tue Jul 31 15:21:18 2007 From: jackc at hylesanderson.edu (Jack Christensen) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:21:18 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Extremely slow uploads Message-ID: <46AF8BAE.6030202@hylesanderson.edu> I just double-checked and my uploads to PmWiki are stalled as well. It used to work. Not sure what could have changed, but it looks like its not a MoinMoin problem. 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Message-ID: <6AE4DB17-A03E-452E-960F-3AA9BBF84BCE@avinc.com> I'm a MoinMoin newbie using the DesktopEdition on my MacBook Pro. I'm looking into using MoinMoin as a shared system for lots of Project related stuff (documentation, requirements, design, developer blogging). My gut says a wiki should be good for some of this and I like many things about MoinMoin. Anyway, my issue du jour: I'm trying to create a TOC or similar navigation aid for subpages, in a specified or sorted manner. The Navigation(children) macro makes a box with word wrapped titles. The Include macro might work but I cant figure out the proper arguments. For example say I have MyPage MyPage/Section 1 Scope, /Section 2 Reference Documents, / Section 3 Requirements, etc. I'd like to have a simple macro to line them all up as a TOC /Section1 Scope /Section 2 Reference Documents /Section 3 Requirements etc. without having to explicitly put them in that way. Another (better) example might be as a blog... MyBlog /2007.07.01 /2007.07.02 /2007.07.03 ... and have a TOC for these, sorted in some ascending/decending order. Question 1) Is there a way to make Navigation() put things on new lines? (simple ans: sure write a python patch) Looking at the Include macro: The titlesonly parameter looks like it would work but I cant seem to get it to accept and display. I created MyNewPage and four sub pages /Page01 /Page02 /Page03 / Page04 Then on MyNewPage I put in [[Include(^MyNewPage/Page.*, , sort=ascending)]] and it included the pages directly. So I tried [[Include(^MyNewPage/Page.*, , sort=ascending, titlesonly)]] and it displays nothing. Question 2: How do I use Include Macro's titlesonly? Question 3: What if I wanted generic (template) macro that would work w/o explicitly putting in full name of current page? explicitly What is the the 'pagename' regex for that? I cant find documentation of "regex" anywhere in MoinMoin. Being geeks, can assume this is short for Regular Expression. Question 4: Is regex a wrapper on Python's re module such that the syntax of regex is as defined in http://docs.python.org/lib/re- syntax.html ? Does anyone else think there should be some reference page within MoinMoin' s Help where someone can find this syntax or a reference to external docs for it? Jerry Isdale isdale at avinc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: