From tcorbet at ix.netcom.com Sun Oct 1 00:08:55 2006 From: tcorbet at ix.netcom.com (Terry Corbet) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:08:55 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Spell Check Message-ID: <000c01c6e50f$507e9160$0400a8c0@hq.sss.com> I have read the documentation concerning Spell Checking. In my configuration -- Windows XP, Version 1.5.5 -- the directories where dictionaries might be found seem to exist properly, but there are no contents. I guess I am responsible for replacing 'dummy_dict' with a valid list of English words. 01. Where might I find a list in a format that is appropriate? The link on the MoinMoin page on this topic is invalid. I see some interesting German words in a recent posting, but, sorry, I don't read German -- it is fun to let Firefox try its hand at translation, but it doesn't get my English-speaking user's the help they desperately need. 02. I have a SuSE Linux set up, so I googled spell checking in that environment and I have some impressive files, but they are in some format required by ispell -- will they work? Is there a utility to extract something into a format that will work? Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gt-moin at think.org Sun Oct 1 23:18:32 2006 From: gt-moin at think.org (Glenn Tenney CISSP CISM) Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 20:18:32 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Bread Crumb display on Safari not displaying correctly Message-ID: <20061002031832.GA22915@think.org> Running 1.5.4... The breadcrumb line (upper left corner area) with page names separated by a ">>" character isn't displaying correctly on my Mac with Safari. When the page first displays, it's just one continuous line of characters (page name after page name with no separation, but each is a unique link). When I mouse over the leftmost link, the " >> " character to its right appears; then when I mouse over the next link to the right, it's right " >> " appears; etc. one by one they will appear when I mouse over. How can I fix that? -- Glenn From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Oct 2 05:21:05 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:21:05 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Bread Crumb display on Safari not displaying correctly In-Reply-To: <20061002031832.GA22915@think.org> References: <20061002031832.GA22915@think.org> Message-ID: <4520DA01.9040209@gmx.de> > The breadcrumb line (upper left corner area) with page names separated > by a ">>" character isn't displaying correctly on my Mac with Safari. > I guess :before or :after CSS stuff is broken in your browser maybe. > How can I fix that? > Maybe try a more recent release of it or some different browser like Firefox. From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Oct 2 05:23:35 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:23:35 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Spell Check In-Reply-To: <000c01c6e50f$507e9160$0400a8c0@hq.sss.com> References: <000c01c6e50f$507e9160$0400a8c0@hq.sss.com> Message-ID: <4520DA97.9030104@gmx.de> > I guess I am responsible for replacing 'dummy_dict' > with a valid list of English words. > Yes. If you downloaded the moin distribution archive, you have some dicts under contrib/. > 02. I have a SuSE Linux set up, so I googled spell checking > in that environment and I have some impressive files, but > they are in some format required by ispell -- will they work? > Is there a utility to extract something into a format that will work? > No idea. You just need simple text file with a list of words, 1 word per line, utf-8 encoded. From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Oct 2 05:28:59 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 11:28:59 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] [Moin-User] notification email problem after upgrade In-Reply-To: References: <1abd6b930609041015l6543d351w92d71e97d8faf088@mail.gmail.com> <44FED492.5030604@gmx.de> Message-ID: <4520DBDB.5000402@gmx.de> > I've applied that fix, but I still have the following "problem": > > emails from MoinMoin (e.g. page updated notifications) have the > Subject line quoting of "special" characters (e.g. "[" and "]") in > utf-8 > > example -> Subject: > =?utf-8?q?=5BMy_Wiki=5D_Update_of_=22SomePage=22_by?= > =?utf-8?q?_SomeOne?= > > > How can I get MoinMoin to just send the subject line without doing > that (i.e. just as ascii)? > The "problem" is that moin is fully unicode internally and only utf-8 can be used to encode all unicode chars (and thus, moin uses either unicode or utf-8 all over the place). What you could do is something like: try: ... encode subject to ascii ... except UnicodeEncodeError: .... encode subject to utf-8 ... From nuno at tomatique.com Tue Oct 3 04:27:28 2006 From: nuno at tomatique.com (nuno baldaia) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 09:27:28 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] macro formatter Message-ID: <8A5878D3-F626-4876-B958-332A1926C535@tomatique.com> Hello The following little example is useful to explain what I need: In a macro like this:... def execute(macro, args): return macro.formatter.text('= Title 1 =') ...I get the raw text '= Title 1 =' on the page where I'm calling the macro (as it was expected). What I need is to force the current page formatting to be applied to the text that the macro is returning to obtain (in this example) the HTML heading, instead of the raw text '= Title 1 =' . Can you help me on this please? Thanks, nuno From nuno at tomatique.com Tue Oct 3 05:31:33 2006 From: nuno at tomatique.com (nuno baldaia) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 10:31:33 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] macro formatter Message-ID: <6DD13A73-61E7-4440-930B-0E3CD890F80B@tomatique.com> Hi again I think I got the solution:: def execute(macro, args): _ = macro.request.getText return _('= Title 1 =') thanks anyway... nuno. On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:27 AM, nuno baldaia wrote: > Hello > > The following little example is useful to explain what I need: > In a macro like this:... > > def execute(macro, args): > return macro.formatter.text('= Title 1 =') > > ...I get the raw text '= Title 1 =' on the page where I'm calling the > macro (as it was expected). > What I need is to force the current page formatting to be applied to > the text that the macro is returning to obtain (in this example) the > HTML heading, instead of the raw text '= Title 1 =' . > Can you help me on this please? > > Thanks, > nuno -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lists at bpsw.biz Tue Oct 3 20:17:27 2006 From: lists at bpsw.biz (Max Campos) Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 17:17:27 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Revs. Missing from RecentChanges In-Reply-To: <45191001.9040206@gmx.de> References: <48462166-6EC6-433B-8FA2-4B339C57EB85@bpsw.biz> <45191001.9040206@gmx.de> Message-ID: <17D900F1-C63B-4E24-9E47-6F523C2FDEA5@bpsw.biz> Hi Thomas, It turns out that in 1.5.4, RecentChanges will only display each page at most 1 time on the list, regardless of when the changes were made. I've added my comments & a patch to: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/RecentChangesIsBroken I hope this patch can be picked up for the next release; it's a pretty glaring problem (IMO). Just makes me wonder what other changes i've missed out on. thanks. - Max On Sep 26, 2006, at 4:33 am, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > >> I have a page that was edited on Saturday, yet RecentChanges doesn't >> show these revisions. The "Info" screen for the edited page shows >> the modifications, but RecentChanges seems to skip over these >> changes. >> > moin maintains 2 edit-logs: > * one global edit-log (data/edit-log) that has the changes for all > pages (RecentChanges uses this) > * one page-local edit-log (data/pages/PageName/edit-log) that has > only > that page's changes (info action uses this) > > Maybe just open the edit-log with less (or some other file viewer) and > look if the change entry is there (see local log for some stuff to > search for). >> Any idea as to how this is possible? Maybe the user checked >> "trivial change"? >> > No, you can't choose not to have entries in edit-log. > > RecentChanges does some optimizations to not show unnecessary > duplicates. > > E,g, if the page was edited yesterday AND today, it will only show > you 1 > "update" entry under today (with [1-2] changes) and if you klick that > link, the diff will be over every change since your bookmark. > > This behaviour is maybe something one has to get used to / has to > know, > but it is definitely superior to simply showing every change, > because it > saves you lots of work. > > This behaviour might depend on you having set a bookmark (on > RecentChanges) and being logged in. > It might behave different if you are anonymous or don't have a > bookmark set. > > Looking at your screenshot, you are either not logged in or you never > have set a bookmark - you really should do that for more comfort. > > Maybe look at your global edit-log - if it has an entry for the > missing > edit and is not corrupted somehow, please post a bug report to the > moin > wiki and (if possible, attach those 2 edit-logs and the > screenshots), so > we can check if it is an error in moin or just unexpected display. From bma at mac.com Wed Oct 4 02:17:16 2006 From: bma at mac.com (bma at mac.com) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 00:17:16 -0600 Subject: [Moin-user] more Message-ID: <000b01c6e795$8cfc34c0$16d9fea9@203-144-160-251.static.asianet.co.th> Hi look he would never reach fifty, not with circulation like Freiburbad. Angelina was sitting up in bed, her face smooth and her guard. I have a very suspicious mind. Playing it safe, I -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From tw-public at gmx.de Thu Oct 5 11:06:49 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:06:49 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Revs. Missing from RecentChanges In-Reply-To: <17D900F1-C63B-4E24-9E47-6F523C2FDEA5@bpsw.biz> References: <48462166-6EC6-433B-8FA2-4B339C57EB85@bpsw.biz> <45191001.9040206@gmx.de> <17D900F1-C63B-4E24-9E47-6F523C2FDEA5@bpsw.biz> Message-ID: <45251F89.1080206@gmx.de> > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinBugs/RecentChangesIsBroken > See my edits there (and please also discuss there). > I hope this patch can be picked up for the next release; it's a > pretty glaring problem (IMO). Just makes me wonder what other > changes i've missed out on. > This stuff works as intended (this is a feature!). You didn't miss any new content (at least not if you are using bookmarks - they exactly show what has changed since your bookmark). From rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com Thu Oct 5 13:55:55 2006 From: rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 12:55:55 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Has anyone migrated to Python 2.5? Message-ID: Or tested it with MoinMoin? Any reason why not? According to Python, there are a number of internal speed-ups and more effient memory usage. Will MoinMoin benefit from these? Or are these calls not utilized by MoinMoin? Any info would be helpful. Just curious if I should upgrade... :-) (MoinMoin on Windows using Apache) -Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Thu Oct 5 14:40:47 2006 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 15:40:47 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] Has anyone migrated to Python 2.5? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4459f0d30610051140v35fd2648he51c25a2597c5f08@mail.gmail.com> Hello Rick. > Or tested it with MoinMoin? Any reason why not? I am using it and it seems OK, installed a wikifarm with Apache in a Dreamhost Debian host. I can't compare it with other Python versions, and my use is almost negligible yet, but if anyone wants to make a test, just tell me (the public wiki is not yet open). Regards... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. From lists at bpsw.biz Fri Oct 6 00:29:00 2006 From: lists at bpsw.biz (Max Campos) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 21:29:00 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Revs. Missing from RecentChanges In-Reply-To: <45251F89.1080206@gmx.de> References: <48462166-6EC6-433B-8FA2-4B339C57EB85@bpsw.biz> <45191001.9040206@gmx.de> <17D900F1-C63B-4E24-9E47-6F523C2FDEA5@bpsw.biz> <45251F89.1080206@gmx.de> Message-ID: <328FE2A1-59C9-4A6D-8158-C32303486B06@bpsw.biz> [re: MoinMoinBugs/RecentChangesIsBroken] > This stuff works as intended (this is a feature!). > > You didn't miss any new content (at least not if you are using > bookmarks > - they exactly show what has changed since your bookmark). Hi Thomas, Yeah, I noticed that the diff links were not quite right the other day. I'll fix the patch. I agree with the user(s) on (MoinMoinBugs/RecentChangesIsBroken), that this "time saving feature" causes more frustration & confusion than help. [[RecentChanges]] doesn't actually show all recent changes. It subtly drops revisions when the user doesn't expect, all based on the arbitrary time between the most recent revisions. I suspect that most folks out there implicitly believe RC works the way the patch makes it work*; that is *all* modifications are reflected on the page up to the bookmark -- not just the latest modified day's worth**. I'm am obviously pulling to see the default macro changed, what does everyone else think? For those not familiar with this very subtle issue - see the thread on MoinMoinBugs/RecentChangesIsBroken. - Max * Well, assuming I fix the diff problem. ** The fact that this cannot be explained easily is a testament to how confusing this really is. From p.f.moore at gmail.com Fri Oct 6 04:11:04 2006 From: p.f.moore at gmail.com (Paul Moore) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 09:11:04 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Has anyone migrated to Python 2.5? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79990c6b0610060111i728e3a00gb2ee8162412ec11b@mail.gmail.com> On 10/5/06, Rick Vanderveer wrote: > Or tested it with MoinMoin? Any reason why not? [...] > (MoinMoin on Windows using Apache) I would probably have done so, but I use mod_python and there's no python 2.5 binary for that yet. I keep considering changing to using the MoinMoin standalone server and an Apache proxy, precisely because of this issue, but I've never got round to it :-( Paul. From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Oct 6 06:36:40 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 12:36:40 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Has anyone migrated to Python 2.5? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <452631B8.50308@gmx.de> Rick Vanderveer schrieb: > Or tested it with MoinMoin? Any reason why not? > The moinmoin site wiki farm runs with py 2.5 (2.5c1) using fastcgi with lighttpd and linux. From gt-moin at think.org Fri Oct 6 11:21:04 2006 From: gt-moin at think.org (Glenn Tenney CISSP CISM) Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:21:04 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] [Moin-User] notification email problem after upgrade In-Reply-To: <4520DBDB.5000402@gmx.de> References: <1abd6b930609041015l6543d351w92d71e97d8faf088@mail.gmail.com> <44FED492.5030604@gmx.de> <4520DBDB.5000402@gmx.de> Message-ID: <20061006152104.GA30109@think.org> On Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:28:59AM +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote: > The "problem" is that moin is fully unicode internally and only utf-8 > can be used to encode all unicode chars (and thus, moin uses either > unicode or utf-8 all over the place). I understand that moin needs to be fully unicode international, but... it's my belief that whenever possible all emails generated by moin itself should, unless the content itself includes unicode characters, be straight plain ascii. i.e. The subject line of the message is the "problem" when moin is sending out notifications of changes to pages. There's no need for moin to be including non-ascii characters in that subject line. (btw, I didn't know that "[" and "]" were unicode... they ARE plain ascii) I think it would be better to change the text of the subject line to just be plain ascii for such auto-generated messages from moin. -- Glenn Tenney From drumkid at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 20:01:47 2006 From: drumkid at gmail.com (drumkid at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:01:47 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin instance problem Message-ID: I have installed an instance on linux of Moin using the createinstance.shscript. The Moin wiki instance lives in " http://localhost:8080/bandxx/music/workshop" in a web tree that is served by the (python based) Karrigell web server (http://karrigell.sourceforge.net/). File moin.cgi is in that directory and index.py is a symbolic link to moin.cgi so that Karrigell knows to execute it as Python script. A reference to http://localhost:8080/bandxx/music/workshop/index.py loads the page nicely. The links on that page, however, like "HelpContents" etc all refer to url locations such as "http://localhost:8080/HelpContents" (i.e. as if Moin was serving itself....); obviously they're not there. Anybody some idea what I should do so that these pages can be found by the external (i.e. Karrigell) server)? -- henk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From msoulier at digitaltorque.ca Tue Oct 10 14:48:37 2006 From: msoulier at digitaltorque.ca (Michael P. Soulier) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 14:48:37 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] moin security hole Message-ID: <20061010184837.GX27560@tigger.digitaltorque.ca> Hello, I just noticed that if I get my password wrong on login, Moin tells me, "Incorrect password". That's not good. A login system should never tell you whether you got the userid or the password wrong, as it hands useful information to crackers trying to break into the system. Cheers, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." --Albert Einstein -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available URL: From conal at conal.net Wed Oct 11 01:21:59 2006 From: conal at conal.net (Conal Elliott) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:21:59 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Coloring a block of wiki mark-up? Message-ID: Is there a way to color all of the markup in a given region? I tried the tricks on the MoinMoin questions help page: the Color2 macro and a table with style. Both fail when the colored content has line breaks. Maybe what I want is a very simple parser so that I can write the following {{{#!color red ... misc markup ... }}} The point here is that I want the body to be further processed. I imagine this would be a very simple program, but I don't yet know enough about writing parsers. Thanks, - Conal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From conal at conal.net Wed Oct 11 01:31:14 2006 From: conal at conal.net (Conal Elliott) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 22:31:14 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads? Message-ID: I'd like to display some conversations wiki pages, and I'm wondering what the options are. One model is progressive indentation as in point-by-point responses in email threads, marked off by vertical bars (or ">" in ascii) on the left, repeated to indicate how many messages ago an excerpt is from. Does anyone have magic for an effect like this in MoinMoin? On the other hand, the email thread model is maybe not such a great one. Comments are common in wikis, aren't they? And what about responses-to-comments, etc? Are there some ways to render and/or structure such conversations? Maybe some kind of branching (non-linear) structure of content. Beyond wikis? Ideas? Pointers? Thanks, - Conal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com Wed Oct 11 02:02:49 2006 From: rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 01:02:49 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2C1468BD-EB74-40F2-B664-1B2DD9A56147@cognitivearts.com> I implemented 'PageComment2' (running moinmoin 1.5.5a) and people here love it. Not sure if this is exactly what you're describing, but it's very similar to a typical web forum. http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/PageComment2 -Rick On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Conal Elliott wrote: > I'd like to display some conversations wiki pages, and I'm > wondering what the options are. One model is progressive > indentation as in point-by-point responses in email threads, marked > off by vertical bars (or ">" in ascii) on the left, repeated to > indicate how many messages ago an excerpt is from. Does anyone > have magic for an effect like this in MoinMoin? > > On the other hand, the email thread model is maybe not such a great > one. Comments are common in wikis, aren't they? And what about > responses-to-comments, etc? Are there some ways to render and/or > structure such conversations? Maybe some kind of branching (non- > linear) structure of content. Beyond wikis? > > Ideas? Pointers? > > Thanks, - Conal > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642______________________________ > _________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk Wed Oct 11 02:35:14 2006 From: shuntim.luk at polyu.edu.hk (LUK ShunTim) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:35:14 +0800 Subject: [Moin-user] PageComment2 - [Was: [Re: Change bars / formatting for email threads?]] In-Reply-To: <2C1468BD-EB74-40F2-B664-1B2DD9A56147@cognitivearts.com> References: <2C1468BD-EB74-40F2-B664-1B2DD9A56147@cognitivearts.com> Message-ID: <452C90A2.2030103@polyu.edu.hk> Rick Vanderveer wrote: > I implemented 'PageComment2' (running moinmoin 1.5.5a) and people > here love it. Not sure if this is exactly what you're describing, > but it's very similar to a typical web forum. > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/PageComment2 > > -Rick Hello Rick, I've been looking at it as well. Does it accept LaTeX input inside the comment form? I once tried it (quite a long time ago) but it didn't seem to. Regards, ST -- From conal at conal.net Wed Oct 11 16:24:10 2006 From: conal at conal.net (Conal Elliott) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:24:10 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] wikiname_add_spaces ?? Message-ID: Is the UserPreferences option "Add spaces to displayed wiki names" (wikiname_add_spaces) supposed to work or not? I see this discusionfrom 2005 suggesting that the feature was to be removed, but the option still shows up in my very recent MoinMoin. If it works, I'd like to use it, and if it's broken, I'd like to hide it from users. Thanks, - Conal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Is there some way to find out the version of the wiki from data ? thanks a lot for any hint best regards -- Sebastien From conal at conal.net Wed Oct 11 16:38:17 2006 From: conal at conal.net (Conal Elliott) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 13:38:17 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing user name Message-ID: I want to change my user name in my wiki. As part of making the whole wiki friendlier to non-geeks, I'm shifting away from CamelCase names. Is it possible to change my user name? Will serious wiki Clobberage result? Any advice? Thanks, - Conal -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From conal at conal.net Wed Oct 11 23:47:14 2006 From: conal at conal.net (Conal Elliott) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:47:14 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads? In-Reply-To: <2C1468BD-EB74-40F2-B664-1B2DD9A56147@cognitivearts.com> References: <2C1468BD-EB74-40F2-B664-1B2DD9A56147@cognitivearts.com> Message-ID: Hi Rick. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try out PageComment2, and I like it, though it's not what I'm looking for, in that it doesn't allow comments on comments. TiddlyWiki has nestable block quotes, which is more like what I'm thinking of. In MoinMoin wikis, I've seen how people simply use increasing nesting for each level of reply, which is the opposite of the email convention. Maybe that's good enough for now. - Conal On 10/10/06, Rick Vanderveer < rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com> wrote: > > I implemented 'PageComment2' (running moinmoin 1.5.5a) and people > here love it. Not sure if this is exactly what you're describing, > but it's very similar to a typical web forum. > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/PageComment2 > > -Rick > > > On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Conal Elliott wrote: > > > I'd like to display some conversations wiki pages, and I'm > > wondering what the options are. One model is progressive > > indentation as in point-by-point responses in email threads, marked > > off by vertical bars (or ">" in ascii) on the left, repeated to > > indicate how many messages ago an excerpt is from. Does anyone > > have magic for an effect like this in MoinMoin? > > > > On the other hand, the email thread model is maybe not such a great > > one. Comments are common in wikis, aren't they? And what about > > responses-to-comments, etc? Are there some ways to render and/or > > structure such conversations? Maybe some kind of branching (non- > > linear) structure of content. Beyond wikis? > > > > Ideas? Pointers? > > > > Thanks, - Conal > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > > job easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? > > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642______________________________ > > _________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From R.Bauer at fz-juelich.de Thu Oct 12 03:12:05 2006 From: R.Bauer at fz-juelich.de (Reimar Bauer) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 09:12:05 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Coloring a block of wiki mark-up? Message-ID: <452DEAC5.6050604@fz-juelich.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi you can do this color change using the frame parser. ParserMarket/Frame {{{#!Frame text_color=red,thick=0px ... misc markup .. }}} This parser is in an early alpha state. There are some known issues about the alignment of float elements. As soon I have some free time I'll fix them. cheers Reimar - -- Reimar Bauer Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-I) Forschungszentrum Juelich email: R.Bauer at fz-juelich.de - ------------------------------------------------------------------- a IDL library at ForschungsZentrum Juelich http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg-i/idl_icglib/idl_lib_intro.html =================================================================== -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFLeqx5aOc3Q9hk/kRApjOAKCZdcDCIuNr8PyTgF2LcGc8zovWNACdEYoX swbRDq2gTol+EdB5Vmg9Ghw= =LsaF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rux.li3 at gmail.com Thu Oct 12 12:10:42 2006 From: rux.li3 at gmail.com (Rux Li) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 00:10:42 +0800 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing user name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You can grep your name in Moin's user directory. Find the file of your profile and edit the name=XXXX. It worked for me. But I am not sure there is no side effect. On 10/12/06, Conal Elliott wrote: > > I want to change my user name in my wiki. As part of making the whole > wiki friendlier to non-geeks, I'm shifting away from CamelCase names. Is it > possible to change my user name? Will serious wiki Clobberage result? Any > advice? > > Thanks, - Conal > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mark.volkert at rakekniven.de Thu Oct 12 15:35:47 2006 From: mark.volkert at rakekniven.de (Mark Volkert) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:35:47 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing user name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200610122135.47990.mark.volkert@rakekniven.de> Am Donnerstag, 12. Oktober 2006 18:10 schrieb Rux Li: > You can grep your name in Moin's user directory. Find the file of your > profile and edit the name=XXXX. > > It worked for me. But I am not sure there is no side effect. Think of your edit-log. Think also about your links to your user name on other pages. Cheers, Mark -- MarkyMark lauscht gerade: The Hellacopters - How Could I Care From conal at conal.net Thu Oct 12 17:20:18 2006 From: conal at conal.net (Conal Elliott) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:20:18 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Changing user name In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. That does seem to do the trick, and even the RecentChanges list shows the new version of my name for my old edits. And @SIG@ and friends are smart enough to wrap my new name as a wiki link: ["Conal"]. So far, no SeriousWikiClobberage. - Conal On 10/12/06, Rux Li wrote: > > You can grep your name in Moin's user directory. Find the file of your > profile and edit the name=XXXX. > > It worked for me. But I am not sure there is no side effect. > > On 10/12/06, Conal Elliott wrote: > > > > I want to change my user name in my wiki. As part of making the whole > > wiki friendlier to non-geeks, I'm shifting away from CamelCase names. Is it > > possible to change my user name? Will serious wiki Clobberage result? Any > > advice? > > > > Thanks, - Conal > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > > security? > > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job > > easier > > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > > Geronimo > > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Moin-user mailing list > > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com Thu Oct 12 17:22:33 2006 From: rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 16:22:33 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads? Message-ID: I agree that nestable block quotes would be pretty slick (much like slashdot.org forums). For now, we just create a new page for each new topic. But that may be awkward for your application. I made it easy by making the discussion page a template (DiscussionPageTemplate), like so: ======================================= = Let's Talk! = ---- . (!) Did you know you can get notified by email whenever someone adds a new comment? Simply click the 'subscribe' link above! ---- [[BR]] Discussion for '''General Content''' ''There are [[PageComment(countonly=1)]] comments so far.'' [[PageComment]] ======================================= _____ From: conal.elliott at gmail.com [mailto:conal.elliott at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Conal Elliott Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:47 PM To: Rick Vanderveer Cc: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads? Hi Rick. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try out PageComment2, and I like it, though it's not what I'm looking for, in that it doesn't allow comments on comments. TiddlyWiki has nestable block quotes, which is more like what I'm thinking of. In MoinMoin wikis, I've seen how people simply use increasing nesting for each level of reply, which is the opposite of the email convention. Maybe that's good enough for now. - Conal On 10/10/06, Rick Vanderveer < rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com> wrote: I implemented 'PageComment2' (running moinmoin 1.5.5a) and people here love it. Not sure if this is exactly what you're describing, but it's very similar to a typical web forum. http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/PageComment2 -Rick On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Conal Elliott wrote: > I'd like to display some conversations wiki pages, and I'm > wondering what the options are. One model is progressive > indentation as in point-by-point responses in email threads, marked > off by vertical bars (or ">" in ascii) on the left, repeated to > indicate how many messages ago an excerpt is from. Does anyone > have magic for an effect like this in MoinMoin? > > On the other hand, the email thread model is maybe not such a great > one. Comments are common in wikis, aren't they? And what about > responses-to-comments, etc? Are there some ways to render and/or > structure such conversations? Maybe some kind of branching (non- > linear) structure of content. Beyond wikis? > > Ideas? Pointers? > > Thanks, - Conal > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, > security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your > job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache > Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel ? > cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642______________________________ > _________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From conal at conal.net Thu Oct 12 17:33:40 2006 From: conal at conal.net (Conal Elliott) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 14:33:40 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rick. Thanks very much for the suggested template. I like the simplicity and friendliness, though I'd prefer something non-linear over linear. I've been wondering about how to support non-linear conversations well. Maybe something along the lines of TiddlyWiki (and ZiddlyWiki and other offshoots) would be a better fit than a traditional wiki. Going further, I'd like to enable people to select any word or passage and provide comments, which themselves may be read and commented on in the same way, recursively. Seems an obvious idea, but I haven't seen such a thing. Has anyone else? I don't know how to handle spatial organization to allow non-linearity but still help the participants have a sense of context (i.e., not jumping from page to page). For that purpose, again, TiddlyWiki again appeals to me. Comments anyone? - Conal On 10/12/06, Rick Vanderveer wrote: > > I agree that nestable block quotes would be pretty slick (much like > slashdot.org forums). For now, we just create a new page for each new > topic. But that may be awkward for your application. I made it easy by > making the discussion page a template (DiscussionPageTemplate), like so: > > ======================================= > = Let's Talk! = > ---- > . (!) Did you know you can get notified by email whenever someone adds a > new comment? Simply click the 'subscribe' link above! > ---- > [[BR]] > > Discussion for '''General Content''' > > ''There are [[PageComment(countonly=1)]] comments so far.'' > > [[PageComment]] > ======================================= > > ------------------------------ > *From:* conal.elliott at gmail.com [mailto:conal.elliott at gmail.com] *On > Behalf Of *Conal Elliott > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:47 PM > *To:* Rick Vanderveer > *Cc:* moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > *Subject:* Re: [Moin-user] Change bars / formatting for email threads? > > Hi Rick. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try out PageComment2, and I > like it, though it's not what I'm looking for, in that it doesn't allow > comments on comments. > > TiddlyWiki has nestable block quotes, which is more like what I'm thinking > of. In MoinMoin wikis, I've seen how people simply use increasing nesting > for each level of reply, which is the opposite of the email convention. > Maybe that's good enough for now. > > - Conal > > On 10/10/06, Rick Vanderveer < rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com> wrote: > > > > I implemented 'PageComment2' (running moinmoin 1.5.5a) and people > > here love it. Not sure if this is exactly what you're describing, > > but it's very similar to a typical web forum. > > > > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MacroMarket/PageComment2 > > > > -Rick > > > > > > On Oct 11, 2006, at 12:31 AM, Conal Elliott wrote: > > > > > I'd like to display some conversations wiki pages, and I'm > > > wondering what the options are. One model is progressive > > > indentation as in point-by-point responses in email threads, marked > > > off by vertical bars (or ">" in ascii) on the left, repeated to > > > indicate how many messages ago an excerpt is from. Does anyone > > > have magic for an effect like this in MoinMoin? > > > > > > On the other hand, the email thread model is maybe not such a great > > > one. Comments are common in wikis, aren't they? And what about > > > responses-to-comments, etc? Are there some ways to render and/or > > > structure such conversations? Maybe some kind of branching (non- > > > linear) structure of content. Beyond wikis? > > > > > > Ideas? Pointers? > > > > > > Thanks, - Conal > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > --- > > > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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URL: From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Fri Oct 13 10:33:21 2006 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:33:21 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] importing an old wiki In-Reply-To: <87pscyfv2r.fsf@woodbox.robot.jussieu.fr> References: <87pscyfv2r.fsf@woodbox.robot.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: <4459f0d30610130733y184bb267x55f31d56279a0ed6@mail.gmail.com> Hello S?bastien. > [...] > Is there some way to find out the version of the wiki from data ? Check SystemInfo. Regards... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. From sebastien.barthelemy at crans.org Fri Oct 13 11:30:42 2006 From: sebastien.barthelemy at crans.org (=?utf-8?Q?S=C3=A9bastien_BARTH=C3=89?= =?utf-8?Q?LEMY?=) Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 17:30:42 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] importing an old wiki In-Reply-To: <4459f0d30610130733y184bb267x55f31d56279a0ed6@mail.gmail.com> (Eduardo Mercovich's message of "Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:33:21 -0300") References: <87pscyfv2r.fsf@woodbox.robot.jussieu.fr> <4459f0d30610130733y184bb267x55f31d56279a0ed6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <87lknkteql.fsf@woodbox.robot.jussieu.fr> "Eduardo Mercovich" writes: > Hello S?bastien. > >> [...] >> Is there some way to find out the version of the wiki from data ? > > Check SystemInfo. > > Regards... Hello Eduardo, I forgot to mention that the old wiki is not running anymore. As the SystemInfo page is dynamically generated, its real content is helpless: cat underlay/pages/SystemInfo/revisions/00000001 ##master-page:Unknown-Page ##master-date:Unknown-Date #acl MoinPagesEditorGroup:read,write,delete,revert All:read #format wiki #language en [[SystemInfo]] I still have no solution -- Sebastien From mjmatthews1 at rcn.com Mon Oct 16 16:32:42 2006 From: mjmatthews1 at rcn.com (Michael Matthews) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:32:42 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] new page users get 'You are not allowed to view this page' Message-ID: <4533EC6A.2000608@rcn.com> MOIN 1.5.3 I recently added a new page to wiki. All my users are getting 'You are not allowed to view this page' when they try to access this page only. I have not added any new pages for awhile. I am not aware of any special perms by page and I am not aware of any special page setup. It appears that I am the only one who can view this page. Why? How can I fix? Any help appreciated. thanks From jimpop at yahoo.com Mon Oct 16 16:37:52 2006 From: jimpop at yahoo.com (Jim Popovitch) Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:37:52 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] new page users get 'You are not allowed to view this page' In-Reply-To: <4533EC6A.2000608@rcn.com> References: <4533EC6A.2000608@rcn.com> Message-ID: <1161031072.6258.2.camel@localhost> On Mon, 2006-10-16 at 16:32 -0400, Michael Matthews wrote: > MOIN 1.5.3 > > I recently added a new page to wiki. All my users are getting 'You are > not allowed to view this page' when they try to access this page only. I > have not added any new pages for awhile. I am not aware of any special > perms by page and I am not aware of any special page setup. > It appears that I am the only one who can view this page. Why? How can I > fix You need to add an ACL to the page (i.e. All:read) as it appears that you have a default deny ACL for all pages. -Jim P. From soloturn at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 01:56:53 2006 From: soloturn at gmail.com (solo turn) Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 07:56:53 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Coloring a block of wiki mark-up? In-Reply-To: <452DEAC5.6050604@fz-juelich.de> References: <452DEAC5.6050604@fz-juelich.de> Message-ID: would this also allow to have: * a table of contents like on http://svn.ipd.uka.de/trac/javaparty/wiki/TracNav * a introdoction page like the one on en.wikipedia.org also in moinmoin? -solo On 10/12/06, Reimar Bauer wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi > > you can do this color change using the frame parser. ParserMarket/Frame > > {{{#!Frame text_color=red,thick=0px > ... misc markup .. > }}} > > > This parser is in an early alpha state. There are some known issues > about the alignment of float elements. As soon I have some free time > I'll fix them. > > cheers > Reimar > > > - -- > Reimar Bauer > > Institut fuer Stratosphaerische Chemie (ICG-I) > Forschungszentrum Juelich > email: R.Bauer at fz-juelich.de > - ------------------------------------------------------------------- > a IDL library at ForschungsZentrum Juelich > http://www.fz-juelich.de/icg/icg-i/idl_icglib/idl_lib_intro.html > =================================================================== > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) > > iD8DBQFFLeqx5aOc3Q9hk/kRApjOAKCZdcDCIuNr8PyTgF2LcGc8zovWNACdEYoX > swbRDq2gTol+EdB5Vmg9Ghw= > =LsaF > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? > Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier > Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > From tpfennig at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 11:20:07 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:20:07 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] looking for python/moin developers Message-ID: <2cbc44a0610180820l6e4ec555v7660c8f916b8cc07@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I may need some people soon to make changes to Moin wiki for some of my customers. Sure those changes will be published under GPL, but sometimes you need a change within days and I can not expect anyone of the volunteers to do this for no payment. So anybody who like to help out or anybody in Germany who might be interested to do this as a job can leave me his address. Please also let me know what expericences you do have with Moin and Python. As I do know the names of the main developers this sure is only for those of you who currently less visible in the development. Please write to email AT pfennigsolutions DOT de. Thilo Pfennig PfennigSolutions Germany ---- Blog: http://vinci.wordpress.com Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig Company page: http://wiki.pfennigsolutions.de/ From ndbecker2 at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 15:27:21 2006 From: ndbecker2 at gmail.com (Neal Becker) Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:27:21 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] rst question Message-ID: I'm trying out rst (restructured text) with moin. I noticed that if I put: .. note:: something something That it seems as if the '.. note:: ' didn't do anything - there is no occurrence of the word 'note' in the rendered output. What am I doing wrong? From Dehmel.R at LMnet.de Thu Oct 19 09:26:04 2006 From: Dehmel.R at LMnet.de (Dehmel, Ruediger) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 15:26:04 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Input box - stringcat - fullseach Message-ID: <08FC08677CB82D4BB2564FA2EEC558441241DF@svr-mail2.lmnet.de> Hello, I'm new with moinmoin. How can I put a input-box on a page and then build a regular expression for a full text search? e.g. User input is '1234' and this is what I like to have: [[FullSearch(r:\bPN1234\b)]] What is the best way todo this in moinmoin? Thank you Ruediger Dehmel From gilbert at voxmea.net Thu Oct 19 09:57:24 2006 From: gilbert at voxmea.net (Matthew Gilbert) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:57:24 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] rst question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8a1445fb0610190657j6113fc43q81af7e172a01f65b@mail.gmail.com> On 10/18/06, Neal Becker wrote: > I'm trying out rst (restructured text) with moin. I noticed that if I put: > > .. note:: something something > > That it seems as if the '.. note:: ' didn't do anything - there is no > occurrence of the word 'note' in the rendered output. What am I doing > wrong? > Hi Neal, When I try your note directive above I get
something something
Do you see something different? You'll need a MoinMoin theme that has support for the docutils styles to have it render the way you'd expect. Thanks _matt From eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com Thu Oct 19 15:23:49 2006 From: eduardo.mercovich at gmail.com (Eduardo Mercovich) Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:23:49 -0300 Subject: [Moin-user] importing an old wiki In-Reply-To: <87lknkteql.fsf@woodbox.robot.jussieu.fr> References: <87pscyfv2r.fsf@woodbox.robot.jussieu.fr> <4459f0d30610130733y184bb267x55f31d56279a0ed6@mail.gmail.com> <87lknkteql.fsf@woodbox.robot.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: <4459f0d30610191223o71fbbbch25f9709dfed0f355@mail.gmail.com> Hello S?bastien. [...] > > Check SystemInfo. > I forgot to mention that the old wiki is not running anymore. As the > SystemInfo page is dynamically generated, its real content is helpless: Does each page have a directory of it's own in the data directory? If it doesn't, it is probably pre 1.3.5. Regards... -- Eduardo Mercovich Buenos Aires - Argentina. From Dehmel.R at LMnet.de Fri Oct 20 04:57:11 2006 From: Dehmel.R at LMnet.de (Dehmel, Ruediger) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:57:11 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Input box - stringcat - fullseach Message-ID: <08FC08677CB82D4BB2564FA2EEC558441241E1@svr-mail2.lmnet.de> Hello, I'm new with moinmoin. How can I put a input-box on a page and then build a regular expression for a full text search? e.g. User input is '1234' and this is what I like to have: [[FullSearch(r:\bPN1234\b)]] What is the best way todo this in moinmoin? Thank you Ruediger Dehmel From tw-public at gmx.de Fri Oct 20 05:11:44 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 11:11:44 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] wikiname_add_spaces ?? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <453892D0.4000706@gmx.de> Conal Elliott schrieb: > Is the UserPreferences option "Add spaces to displayed wiki names" > (wikiname_add_spaces) supposed to work or not? You should see that in the navigation area of the page. "CamelCase" should render as "Camel Case". > discusionfrom > > 2005 suggesting that the feature was to be removed, but the option > still shows up in my very recent MoinMoin. If it works, I'd like to use > it, and if it's broken, I'd like to hide it from users. Maybe it is only partly working / removed right now. I suggest that you disable this option in userprefs and just put a blank where you want to see one. The problem with that "feature" is that the output quality of the "add space magic" depends on the language - for english it is mostly ok, but for languages that liketostickwordstogether (like e.g. German), this feature mostly works not (or is even annoying). So the easiest thing that generally works is to just remove that feature and not do any magic. From soloturn at gmail.com Sun Oct 22 03:47:07 2006 From: soloturn at gmail.com (solo turn) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:47:07 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] how do graphical pagehit counts? Message-ID: hi, i saw http://en.wiki.oekonux.org/OekonuxWiki?action=info&hitcounts=1 and i am wondering what stefan merten did use for getting this? and what i'm also wondering, what http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/EventStats/HitCounts is using that the numbers seem so strange ... the timeframe going from 1904 up to 2004 ;) -solo From gilbert at voxmea.net Sun Oct 22 14:04:29 2006 From: gilbert at voxmea.net (Matthew Gilbert) Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 14:04:29 -0400 Subject: [Moin-user] rst question In-Reply-To: <200610191004.22809.ndbecker2@gmail.com> References: <8a1445fb0610190657j6113fc43q81af7e172a01f65b@mail.gmail.com> <200610191004.22809.ndbecker2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8a1445fb0610221104u7870efc6j27107f0ce4c9d450@mail.gmail.com> On 10/19/06, Neal Becker wrote: > On Thursday 19 October 2006 9:57 am, Matthew Gilbert wrote: > > On 10/18/06, Neal Becker wrote: > > > I'm trying out rst (restructured text) with moin. I noticed that if I > > > put: > > > > > > .. note:: something something > > > > > > That it seems as if the '.. note:: ' didn't do anything - there is no > > > occurrence of the word 'note' in the rendered output. What am I doing > > > wrong? > > > > Hi Neal, > > > > When I try your note directive above I get > > > >
something something
> > > > Do you see something different? You'll need a MoinMoin theme that has > > support for the docutils styles to have it render the way you'd > > expect. Thanks _matt > > What I mean is, the rendering in the browser shows nothing special. Here is a > screenshot illustrating what I meant. The default MoinMoin theme does not support the docutils html classes. Take a look at the docutils css file and add the relevant styles to the your MoinMoin theme. Maybe someone on this list has a theme that supports docutils styles that you can install. I don't have anything at the moment I can send. It's been on my todo list for a while to modify the default theme to support docutils. Sorry, not much help. _matt From ThadMathews at rowleydesign.com Sun Oct 22 23:24:12 2006 From: ThadMathews at rowleydesign.com (Thad) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 11:24:12 +0800 Subject: Never seen stuff But without any results… Delight in Message-ID: <38355800213589.5BCAC33593@2LXLW> Good day Bro, Have you ever wished to have more intense final? Be realistic ? you always wanted it Take this and your woman will be speechless Come on in: http://blasdutro/gal/gsm/ Come on in and get it all very cheap! From tw-public at gmx.de Mon Oct 23 09:33:19 2006 From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann) Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 15:33:19 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] how do graphical pagehit counts? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <453CC49F.1060208@gmx.de> > i saw http://en.wiki.oekonux.org/OekonuxWiki?action=info&hitcounts=1 > and i am wondering what stefan merten did use for getting this? > he used moin and gdchart. moin does that using gdchart if it is installed. > and what i'm also wondering, what > http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/EventStats/HitCounts is using There is just NO gdchart installed, so it falls back to text display. This also saves a bit performance and traffic. > that the numbers seem so strange ... the timeframe going from 1904 up to 2004 > Yeah, I guess there is a bug somewhere in the code or in the data or both. :) From rvanderveer at CognitiveArts.com Wed Oct 25 00:39:26 2006 From: rvanderveer at CognitiveArts.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 23:39:26 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin HelpOnInstalling changes Message-ID: Today I completely revised the downloads page. Before I get "reverted", let me explain my reasoning: :-) MoinMoin is *great* wiki software! I discovered it using http:// www.wikimatrix.org and after first trying Twiki and getting frustrated with that software. However, the instructions for setting up MoinMoin were pretty confusing. So, I rewrote or re-factored the instructions for ApacheOnWin32, ApacheOnWin32withDomainAuthentication, ApacheOnMacOsx, and InternetInformationServer. Now I'd like to reorganize the HelpOnInstalling page. The main thing I want to change is that we currently have the more difficult (more generic) instructions first, followed by the easier step-by-step guides for specific configurations further down the page. I think it makes more sense to put the easier step-by-step guides at the top. Each scenario will have all the full installation instructions to get Moin installed in every scenario. The idea, of course, is to make it easier for people to install and foster adoption. Hope everyone else agrees. :-) Thanks! -Rick From tpfennig at gmail.com Wed Oct 25 05:31:27 2006 From: tpfennig at gmail.com (Thilo Pfennig) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:31:27 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin HelpOnInstalling changes In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2cbc44a0610250231qb4f2973ge4fbfe5b18d0a4b9@mail.gmail.com> 2006/10/25, Rick Vanderveer : > I think it makes more sense to put the easier step-by-step guides at > the top. Each scenario will have all the full installation > instructions to get Moin installed in every scenario. > > The idea, of course, is to make it easier for people to install and > foster adoption. Hope everyone else agrees. :-) I understand your idea but I think that the step-by-step guides are not necessarily easier to work with. The only easy thing are the desktop wikis.All other installations can be very different. I've never and would never suggest anybopdy to follow teh step-by-step guides. They give you some sense of what is important and what to do when. But I think more importantly people need to understand the parts. Because if they get stuck with a step-by-step guide they will have no chance to finish installation. Maybe we could have a QuickStart page that puts everything important on one page (very condensed) but does not go into any details? I think what many people will not understand is that with MoinMoin and Python you have these seperated pages. This is why I think it is problematic to show them the step-by-step guides first, too: Somebody mught think that installing into an ftp only environment is a good idea, while it is not. I think with MoinMoin it is SO important to have total conrol over the server to be able to update/migrate or to install newer Python 2.5 (I guess we will still see 2.4.x the next 3-4 years on most web servers) So I also think we are missing suggestion what to choose best. I am still unsure what is best when it comes to performance. Thilo -- Blog: http://vinci.wordpress.com Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/tpfennig From disparatedemitting at roysplumbing.com Wed Oct 25 06:31:29 2006 From: disparatedemitting at roysplumbing.com (Investors.com controversy) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 08:31:29 -0200 Subject: [Moin-user] You won't lose with this one, pay attention to the email Message-ID: <64511302017854.C432E455AF@K8MYK49Q> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Thank you for your help Eduardo From rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com Wed Oct 25 23:59:58 2006 From: rvanderveer at cognitivearts.com (Rick Vanderveer) Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:59:58 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Moin HelpOnInstalling changes Message-ID: Thilo, I appreciate your concerns! (Thomas commented similarly on my page http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RickVanderveer/HelpOnInstalling- Changes). Let me try to address them (at least from my thinking), and then figure out how we can satisfy both our concerns: > Understanding fundamentals; guides not necessarily the answer I understand the concern about the importance of understanding what is going on. I agree, of course! My rational is that the guides should explain what is happening along the way. If you take my ApacheOnWin32, for example, I have it broken down to two major sections (Installation and Configuration), and then sub-sections (Installing Apache, Installing Python, Installing Moin, etc). Each step should explain what it's doing (and if it doesn't, then it should be clarified). For comparison, I read through the 'BasicInstallation' and it is extremely confusing for non-unix platforms (including from a Mac- perspective, even though Mac is based on unix). For example, the instructions for installing Python have no relevance on how to install Python for Mac or Windows, and would be totally baffling for those users. If a competent Windows and Mac administrator had only those instructions to work from, I suspect they would have moved on to looking at other wiki's. Each platform/installation scenario should each contain the "basic installation" principles. But it needs concrete examples of how to actually get a wiki working, not a concept of how it works. > I also think we are missing suggestion what to choose best. I am > still unsure > what is best when it comes to performance. It sounds like here what you're asking is for raw performance numbers. While interesting, I'm not sure that should be the deciding factor for many people. The HelpOnInstalling page already lists the sections from "easiest to install, but slowest" to "fastest, but trickier". Above that, it's really up to the admin to match his needs. For example, a Windows admin is not going to install the Linux version even if Linux proves to be faster (which it probably is). Or, an admin isn't going to pick StandaloneServer if he can't get LDAP authentication working (for example). > Maybe we could have a QuickStart page that puts everything > important on > one page (very condensed) but does not go into any details? > This is probably a good idea. I started a draft on my page. Anyone, please feel free to edit and add suggestions! http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/RickVanderveer/PreflightGettingStarted Let me know your thoughts... -Rick From theller at ctypes.org Fri Oct 27 14:09:45 2006 From: theller at ctypes.org (Thomas Heller) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 20:09:45 +0200 Subject: [Moin-user] Installing moinmoin 1.5.5a as non-root user Message-ID: <45424B69.6080607@ctypes.org> I was trying to install a public moinmoin wiki on a server where I do not have root access. Apparently this is not possible. The createinstance.sh script complains because I cannot "chown www-data.www-data $INSTANCE" (premission denied). Ok, I thought, make it world accessible, and try it out. After I've tried several pages in the web browser, moinmoin created some cache subdirectories which I cannot access (or delete) from the command line - again, permission denied. Hm, I cannot even remove the crap that has been created without asking the admin to help me. Is this normal? Thomas From kapteynr at cboe.com Fri Oct 27 16:18:55 2006 From: kapteynr at cboe.com (Kapteyn, Rob) Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:18:55 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] Installing moinmoin 1.5.5a as non-root user Message-ID: Yes this is normal. I have been dealing with it for a couple of years. The functionality of the wiki itself is unaffected. But back-ups and upgrades can be quite painful because of it. Rob -----Original Message----- From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Thomas Heller Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 1:10 PM To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Moin-user] Installing moinmoin 1.5.5a as non-root user I was trying to install a public moinmoin wiki on a server where I do not have root access. Apparently this is not possible. The createinstance.sh script complains because I cannot "chown www-data.www-data $INSTANCE" (premission denied). Ok, I thought, make it world accessible, and try it out. After I've tried several pages in the web browser, moinmoin created some cache subdirectories which I cannot access (or delete) from the command line - again, permission denied. Hm, I cannot even remove the crap that has been created without asking the admin to help me. Is this normal? Thomas ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Moin-user mailing list Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user From theller at ctypes.org Mon Oct 30 10:20:00 2006 From: theller at ctypes.org (Thomas Heller) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 16:20:00 +0100 Subject: [Moin-user] Installing moinmoin 1.5.5a as non-root user In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45461820.7060808@ctypes.org> >> I was trying to install a public moinmoin wiki on a server >> where I do not have root access. >> >> Apparently this is not possible. > Yes this is normal. > I have been dealing with it for a couple of years. > The functionality of the wiki itself is unaffected. > > But back-ups and upgrades can be quite painful because of it. I'm curently thinking that running the createinstance.sh not as normal user but instead as cgi-program through apache. This should create *all* the directories and files with the correct owner/group. Backups and upgrades would probably be have done thought cgi then as well. Thomas From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com Mon Oct 30 14:48:26 2006 From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 11:48:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Moin-user] Moin Dump and ACL Conflict Message-ID: <20061030194826.53755.qmail@web36201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If a page's acl rule restricts reading of the page to known users, then an attempt to dump the page with moin dump results in the message "You are not allowed to view this page". Are there additional parameters that could be passed in the command line (user ID, turn off acl) or an alternative solution? I think a mod to include a test for "if request.http_user_agent == 'CLI/Script'" will work. Is the right place to add this in the "may" method of wikiacl.py or is there a better approach? Roger Haase __________________________________________________________________________________________ Check out the New Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. (http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta) From sean at dague.net Tue Oct 31 09:02:29 2006 From: sean at dague.net (Sean Dague) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:02:29 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] TableOfContents macro scoping? Message-ID: <20061031140229.GN15263@underhill.no-ip.org> Is it possible to get the TableOfContents macro to scope to only H2 headers or below? For instance, I'd really like this page (http://dague.org/ExifTagger) to just skip counting the H1 as part of the table of contents. Thanks in advance, -Sean -- __________________________________________________________________ Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. __________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 191 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith.c.schwols at intel.com Tue Oct 31 09:56:56 2006 From: keith.c.schwols at intel.com (Schwols, Keith C) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 07:56:56 -0700 Subject: [Moin-user] TableOfContents macro scoping? In-Reply-To: <20061031140229.GN15263@underhill.no-ip.org> Message-ID: I posted a 'not quite to format' patch at http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/FeatureRequests/TableOfContentsMinDepth that added the ability to specify starting depth as well as ending depth. (E.g. [[TableOfContents(mindepth=2,maxdepth=99)]] would skip the H1 headers. I've been running the macro for a few months on my wikis, but the feature was rejected by the Moin developers because of the arg parser that I'm using (not being the 'standard'). I've not had time to massage this patch into the correct format for inclusion into moin, but the patch I put on the page was applied against the 1.5.4 codebase. ]-----Original Message----- >From: moin-user-bounces at lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:moin-user- >bounces at lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf Of Sean Dague >Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 7:02 AM >To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net >Subject: [Moin-user] TableOfContents macro scoping? > >Is it possible to get the TableOfContents macro to scope to only H2 headers >or below? For instance, I'd really like this page >(http://dague.org/ExifTagger) to just skip counting the H1 as part of the >table of contents. > >Thanks in advance, > > -Sean > >-- >__________________________________________________________________ > >Sean Dague Mid-Hudson Valley >sean at dague dot net Linux Users Group >http://dague.net http://mhvlug.org > >There is no silver bullet. Plus, werewolves make better neighbors >than zombies, and they tend to keep the vampire population down. >__________________________________________________________________ From jimpop at yahoo.com Tue Oct 31 11:09:43 2006 From: jimpop at yahoo.com (Jim Popovitch) Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 11:09:43 -0500 Subject: [Moin-user] importing HTML into Moin Message-ID: <1162310983.18557.14.camel@localhost> I've got 100+ HTML files from an old site that I would like to convert/merge/import into an existing Moin site. I don't want to import the whole old site into Moin, just a subset of the old site into a new page on the Moin site. Any good ideas or tips on how to do this? -Jim P.