From c.brosch at mx.uni-saarland.de  Sun Feb  1 02:50:01 2004
From: c.brosch at mx.uni-saarland.de (Christopher Brosch)
Date: Sun Feb  1 02:50:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with Login
In-Reply-To: <96210A60BE6F0B4F8D1535ED119A240119BEAB@colossus.axiomdesign.com>; from iepperson@axiomdesign.com on Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:23:24AM -0800
References: <96210A60BE6F0B4F8D1535ED119A240119BEAB@colossus.axiomdesign.com>
Message-ID: <20040201114855.A21753@rw22linux2.jura.uni-sb.de>

Am Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:23:24AM -0800 schrieb Ian Epperson:

Hi,

> I have a strange problem with a moinmoin wiki[1]: I can create an user account, the account data appears in data/user afterwards. But when I go to another page, I am no longer logged in.
>
> This does not happen with an older wiki (same SystemInfo, but older pages). Maybe something went wrong with creating the new wiki instance?
> Any Ideas?

>> This happened to me.  The issue here is that we are using IIS authentication, and the wiki is picking up the authenticated username.  If you're using authentication, the wiki will ALWAYS use that username.  If you create a wiki account with that username, it will show you as logged immediately after the authentication.

this wiki is running on apache 1.3.29. I still have no idea why this
happens. I think I will just wait for the next stable cvs release.

Best regards,

Christopher Brosch
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From linux at rehse.org  Mon Feb  2 02:23:09 2004
From: linux at rehse.org (Uwe Rehse)
Date: Mon Feb  2 02:23:09 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with Login
In-Reply-To: <20040201114855.A21753@rw22linux2.jura.uni-sb.de>
References: <96210A60BE6F0B4F8D1535ED119A240119BEAB@colossus.axiomdesign.com>
	<20040201114855.A21753@rw22linux2.jura.uni-sb.de>
Message-ID: <20040202112743.43f4f232.linux@rehse.org>

Hi,

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:48:55 +0100
Christopher Brosch <c.brosch at mx.uni-saarland.de> wrote:

> Am Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 09:23:24AM -0800 schrieb Ian Epperson:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> > I have a strange problem with a moinmoin wiki[1]: I can create an user
> > account, the account data appears in data/user afterwards. But when I go
> > to another page, I am no longer logged in.
> >
> > This does not happen with an older wiki (same SystemInfo, but older
> > pages). Maybe something went wrong with creating the new wiki instance?
> > Any Ideas?
> 
> >> This happened to me.  The issue here is that we are using IIS
> >authentication, and the wiki is picking up the authenticated username.  If
> >you're using authentication, the wiki will ALWAYS use that username.  If
> >you create a wiki account with that username, it will show you as logged
> >immediately after the authentication.
> 
> this wiki is running on apache 1.3.29. I still have no idea why this
> happens. I think I will just wait for the next stable cvs release.

I had the same problem using moinmoin 1.1 and apache 1.3.x (Linux). And it
seems to me, that indeed it is an authentication problem: I have installed
moinmoin in my home directory and the access is protected via a .htaccess 
file. In my first setup I used two different names for 'htaccess'-login and
my moinmoin user settings. In this case I had the same problems like 
Christopher. After that I tried to use an user account with the same name as 
it is used at the 'htaccess' login - and the problem seems to be solved. But 
one should use a non wiki-like user name, because the htaccess authentication 
does not work correctly with wiki-like names.

Best regards

Uwe Rehse




From ralf at zosel.com  Mon Feb  2 04:02:09 2004
From: ralf at zosel.com (Ralf Zosel)
Date: Mon Feb  2 04:02:09 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with Login
In-Reply-To: <20040202112743.43f4f232.linux@rehse.org>
References: <96210A60BE6F0B4F8D1535ED119A240119BEAB@colossus.axiomdesign.com> <20040201114855.A21753@rw22linux2.jura.uni-sb.de> <20040202112743.43f4f232.linux@rehse.org>
Message-ID: <20040202120124.GH577@zosel.com>

> I had the same problem using moinmoin 1.1 and apache 1.3.x (Linux). And it
> seems to me, that indeed it is an authentication problem: I have installed
> moinmoin in my home directory and the access is protected via a .htaccess 
> file. In my first setup I used two different names for 'htaccess'-login and
> my moinmoin user settings. In this case I had the same problems like 
> Christopher. After that I tried to use an user account with the same name as 
> it is used at the 'htaccess' login - and the problem seems to be solved. But 
> one should use a non wiki-like user name, because the htaccess authentication 
> does not work correctly with wiki-like names.

With MoinMoin Version 1.1 [Revision 1.173] and Apache/1.3.26  it looks
like this:

If you take a non-WikiName for apache passwd you can work as usual in
MoinMoin with the cookies. Login and logout in MoinMoin is no problem.

If you take a WikiName for passwd and there is an identical
MoinMoin-Account you are logged in with this account without any cookie.
You even can not logout at all. This is usually a good thing for
intranet-wikis.

I don't have the trouble Christopher has. No idea why.

Ralf

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From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Feb  2 08:16:04 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon Feb  2 08:16:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with Login
References: <96210A60BE6F0B4F8D1535ED119A240119BEAB@colossus.axiomdesign.com>	<20040201114855.A21753@rw22linux2.jura.uni-sb.de> <20040202112743.43f4f232.linux@rehse.org>
Message-ID: <401E7784.2060802@gmx.de>

> one should use a non wiki-like user name, because the htaccess authentication 
> does not work correctly with wiki-like names.

Why that?




From mblack at csi-inc.com  Mon Feb  2 10:03:11 2004
From: mblack at csi-inc.com (Mike Black)
Date: Mon Feb  2 10:03:11 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] htaccess control
Message-ID: <087501c3e9b6$bacd4400$c8de11cc@black>

The current code of moin-1.1 assumes that if you use .htaccess controls that the username is what you want to use.
This should at least be an option in the config file instead of the default behavior.

In cgimain.py:
    if os.environ.get('AUTH_TYPE','') == 'Basic':
        auth_username = os.environ.get('REMOTE_USER','')
        properties.update({'auth_username': auth_username})

I (for example) want to secure the moin site but do NOT want to expose the names for everybody to see (and besides, normal login names don't look like WikiNames).



Michael D. Black mblack at csi-inc.com
http://www.csi-inc.com/
http://www.csi-inc.com/~mike
321-676-2923, x203
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From paul at hulb.net  Mon Feb  2 14:25:06 2004
From: paul at hulb.net (Paul Hulbert)
Date: Mon Feb  2 14:25:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] moin installation problem
Message-ID: <20040202222421.32203.qmail@tsunami4.tsunamihost.ch>

Hi,

I have tried to set up moinmoin in my home directory of my internet site, 
where I have ssh access. I get the main page ok ( http://www.hulb.net/moin.
cgi/ ), but the links from it, such as edit page, all fail ( e.g. http:
//www.hulb.net/FrontPage?action=edit ) with e.g. "The requested URL 
/FrontPage was not found on this server."

I followed installation instructions under http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.
de/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnUnix#head-4a7b5261101cdad8d92c03c29b1ab68f0118
d2d2 

In moin_config.py I set 

data_dir = '/home/hulb/wiki/data/'
url_prefix = '/wiki'

I must have overlooked something - any ideas?

/Paul




From timbomb at dstc.edu.au  Tue Feb  3 17:11:06 2004
From: timbomb at dstc.edu.au (Tim Mansfield)
Date: Tue Feb  3 17:11:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] RSS from MoinMoin
Message-ID: <1075857119.30000.35.camel@arcadia.dstc.uts.edu.au>

So, I'm trying to use Bloglines.com to read the RSS feed from our wiki.
Doesn't seem to work, so I dug around a bit, noticed that I can't wget
the feed either, eventually discovered this page:

http://twistedmatrix.com/wiki/moin/MoinMoinBugs

and some advice under the heading: "RecentChanges RSS refuses robots"

The suggested fix (other than waiting for 1.2) is:

 	For now, simply add a negative lookbehind into the regex,
	letting through exactly that "robot".

... but I'm not clear which regex where or how to achieve this. 

Has anyone patched this problem in their own installation? Willing to
share code?

Tim





From schmid at ice.mpg.de  Tue Feb  3 23:58:12 2004
From: schmid at ice.mpg.de (Karl Schmid)
Date: Tue Feb  3 23:58:12 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Register a new local InterWiki
Message-ID: <1075881461.1607.7.camel@blossom.local>

Hi,

I set up a couple of MoinMoin wikis on our intranet and would like to
register them as InterWiki so that they can be easily referenced from
the other wikis.

I have not found any instructions on how to do this. Could anyone let me
know how to do this?

Thank you!

Karl
-- 
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Max-Planck-Institute of Chemical Ecology, Jena




From adh1982 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  4 13:41:15 2004
From: adh1982 at yahoo.com (Aaron Hanson)
Date: Wed Feb  4 13:41:15 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] language-specific TitleIndex?
Message-ID: <20040204214050.87800.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All - 
    Can anyone suggest a way to get a title index for
the whole moin, but only those pages in a specific
language?
    Right now when I go to the standard TitleIndex
page, it isn't as useful as it could be because it
shows all languages.
    I'm actually thinking of removing all pages in my
moin except for a single language to save space (my
isp only gives me 10meg).
    Thanks.
-Aaron

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From minsukim at jikji.org  Wed Feb  4 19:40:00 2004
From: minsukim at jikji.org (Min-Soo Kim)
Date: Wed Feb  4 19:40:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Register a new local InterWiki
References: <1075881461.1607.7.camel@blossom.local>
Message-ID: <008901c3eb9a$dbe1b8c0$9fff1e18@ce1.client2.attbi.com>

There could be different ways, and I know there is discussion out there on this http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/InterWikiProposals

Here comes two of them.

cd /usr/local/share/moin/data
vi intermap.txt
[Add whatever you want] 

cd /usr/local/share/moin/data
mv intermap.txt text/InterMap
ln -s text/InterMap intermap.txt

go to http://yourwiki/moin.cgi/InterMap

Edit and add 
#format plain
at the top of the page.

[Add whatever you want in here just like editing a WikiPage]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Karl Schmid" <schmid at ice.mpg.de>
To: <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 4:57 PM
Subject: [Moin-user] Register a new local InterWiki


> Hi,
> 
> I set up a couple of MoinMoin wikis on our intranet and would like to
> register them as InterWiki so that they can be easily referenced from
> the other wikis.
> 
> I have not found any instructions on how to do this. Could anyone let me
> know how to do this?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
> Karl
> -- 
> Karl Schmid <schmid at ice.mpg.de>
> Max-Planck-Institute of Chemical Ecology, Jena
> 
> 
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From tbird20d at yahoo.com  Thu Feb  5 08:21:01 2004
From: tbird20d at yahoo.com (Tim Bird)
Date: Thu Feb  5 08:21:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Table edit feature
Message-ID: <20040205162005.66074.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>

Some time ago, my nephew and I wrote a table edit action.
The implementation is not complete, but I thought I would
present it here and see if there is interest in my submitting
it to Juergen.

You can test it out at:
http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/TestPage

The current implementation has lots of problems, but
if there is enough interest I could work out some of 
the issues and submit it.

Some of the problems are: it doesn't use Juergen's
table-handling class, it doesn't use the (existing?)
form widget code, it doesn't have "cancel", and it
could stand some user interface improvements.

However, even in it's current form, I find it 
extremely useful for working on large tables (rather
than editing the text directly).

Let me know what you think.

Tim Bird



From skip at pobox.com  Thu Feb  5 09:08:07 2004
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Thu Feb  5 09:08:07 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Table edit feature
In-Reply-To: <20040205162005.66074.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040205162005.66074.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <16418.30789.586359.862459@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    Tim> Some time ago, my nephew and I wrote a table edit action.  The
    Tim> implementation is not complete, but I thought I would present it
    Tim> here and see if there is interest in my submitting it to Juergen.

    Tim> You can test it out at:
    Tim> http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/TestPage

    ...

It took me awhile to notice the EditTable link at the bottom of the page.

    Tim> However, even in it's current form, I find it extremely useful for
    Tim> working on large tables (rather than editing the text directly).

    Tim> Let me know what you think.

Looks very interesting.  I'd much prefer this sort of interface for complex
tables like:

    http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/SpecializedCommercialHosts
    http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/PythonEditors

Note that the second page contains multiple tables.  I think it needs to be
possible to replicate your EditTable link so one is available for each
table.  Also, it would be nice if you could add a [[AddRow]] macro or
something at the bottom of a table which would display an "add row" button
below the table, that being the most likely edit in most cases.

Skip



From douglist at anize.org  Thu Feb  5 13:35:16 2004
From: douglist at anize.org (Douglas F. Calvert)
Date: Thu Feb  5 13:35:16 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] offline moinmoin?
Message-ID: <1076016870.3426.2628.camel@liberate.imissjerry.org>

Hello,
 I have been using moinmoin quite successfully to keep track of my class
notes when there is a wifi connection. Unfortunately there is not always
coverage in my classrooms. Is their any easy recommended way to run
moinmoin on my laptop and then checkin the changes to my main
installation. Is cvs up to the task? Are there any gotchas?
-- 
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From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  6 07:56:02 2004
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Fri Feb  6 07:56:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Table edit feature
In-Reply-To: <16418.30789.586359.862459@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <20040206155500.56619.qmail@web14302.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Skip Montanaro <skip at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
>     Tim> Some time ago, my nephew and I wrote a table edit action. 
> The
>     Tim> implementation is not complete, but I thought I would
> present it
>     Tim> here and see if there is interest in my submitting it to
> Juergen.
> 
>     Tim> You can test it out at:
>     Tim> http://tree.celinuxforum.org/pubwiki/moin.cgi/TestPage
> 
>     ...
> 
> It took me awhile to notice the EditTable link at the bottom of the
> page.
> 
>     Tim> However, even in it's current form, I find it extremely
> useful for
>     Tim> working on large tables (rather than editing the text
> directly).
> 
>     Tim> Let me know what you think.
> 
> Looks very interesting.  I'd much prefer this sort of interface for
> complex
> tables like:
> 
>     http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/SpecializedCommercialHosts
>     http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/PythonEditors
> 
> Note that the second page contains multiple tables.  I think it needs
> to be
> possible to replicate your EditTable link so one is available for
> each
> table.  Also, it would be nice if you could add a [[AddRow]] macro or
> something at the bottom of a table which would display an "add row"
> button
> below the table, that being the most likely edit in most cases.
> 
> Skip

I like it as is. The [[AddRow]] is easily accomodated by just using the
existing INS button on the last row and the multiple tables issues
could be easily accommodated by redesigning the page into multiple
pages or adding a column (in the example given) to indicate the editor
type.

Nice job!

Roger Haase


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From hevi at lut.fi  Fri Feb  6 08:20:05 2004
From: hevi at lut.fi (Petri =?iso-8859-15?q?Heinil=E4?=)
Date: Fri Feb  6 08:20:05 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] offline moinmoin?
In-Reply-To: <1076016870.3426.2628.camel@liberate.imissjerry.org>
References: <1076016870.3426.2628.camel@liberate.imissjerry.org>
Message-ID: <200402061819.48302.hevi@lut.fi>

On Thursday 05 February 2004 23:34, Douglas F. Calvert wrote:
> Hello,
>  I have been using moinmoin quite successfully to keep track of my class
> notes when there is a wifi connection. Unfortunately there is not always
> coverage in my classrooms. Is their any easy recommended way to run
> moinmoin on my laptop and then checkin the changes to my main
> installation.

> Is cvs up to the task? 

 * No, too much handwork. Adding and removing the files to cvs,
 ensuring the "-kb" is set to binary attachments, .. 
 * Wiki directory structure have to be also refactored, you don't
 want to put cache_dir, backup_dir, and parts of data_dir (last-edited)
 files into cvs.

More feasible solution would be file synchronizing tool, for example
unison: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/

> Are there any gotchas?

 * Path specifications in the laptop. It's easiest if you can duplicate
 run-time system for moin from server one to one into laptop.
 * Absolute referencies (in paths and urls) are always bad. Check
 the wiki content is relative-clean.
 * Locking, when content is synchronized between laptop and server,
 there should not be allowed modifications on server.

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From topeju at badzilla.net  Sat Feb  7 13:24:01 2004
From: topeju at badzilla.net (Tomi Junnila)
Date: Sat Feb  7 13:24:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] RSS feed time stamp error
Message-ID: <20040207212304.GA22723@badzilla.net>

The time stamps for all changes in my MoinMoin wiki are off by 4 hours. For
example, a document that was changed at 2004-02-07 18:37:38 UTC (20:37:38
local time; the server is in the same time zone as I am) is reported by
RecentChanges?action=macro&macro=RecentChanges&do_rss_rc as:

<rdf:RDF>
...
<item rdf:about=...>
...
<dc:date>2004-02-07T20:37:38-02:00</dc:date>
...
<wiki:version>2004-02-07 20:37:38</wiki:version>
...
</item>
...
</rdf>

In other words the time zone offset has been reversed: It should be +02:00
but is listed as -02:00. Now the time from <dc:date> will decode as being
2004-02-08 00:37:38 local time.

My UserPreferences page shows the current server time as 2004-02-07 21:22:43
(UTC) and my time as 2004-02-07 23:22:43 [+02:00], which is correct.

Is this a configuration error somewhere or a bug in either PyXML (I have
0.8.2) or MoinMoin (1.1)? I don't really know Python, much less the
structure of the MoinMoin code so I can't really debug the problem very
closely.


-- 
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http://topeju.badzilla.net/



From tw-public at gmx.de  Sun Feb  8 15:57:02 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun Feb  8 15:57:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] RSS feed time stamp error
In-Reply-To: <20040207212304.GA22723@badzilla.net>
References: <20040207212304.GA22723@badzilla.net>
Message-ID: <4026D70B.3020208@gmx.de>

Hi Tomi,

><dc:date>2004-02-07T20:37:38-02:00</dc:date>
>  
>
Congrats! You have found a bug. ;) It will be fixed in 1.2.

greetings,

Thomas




From tw-public at gmx.de  Sun Feb  8 16:11:14 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun Feb  8 16:11:14 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Translations needed for MoinMoin 1.2
Message-ID: <4026DA33.2050709@gmx.de>

Hi,

http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinDev_2fTranslation - as you can see 
there, some translations are still pending. We want to release moin 1.2 
in about a week, so there isn't much time left.

About a week before, I wrote to all last known email addresses of the 
maintainers. As you can see there, that was not very successful - either 
there is no maintainer, or maintainer is unreachable via email or he is 
busy or he just didn't answer.

So if you are a native speaker of a language listed there needing work, 
please just update the status to ACCEPTED, put your name and email there 
and do it. ;)

Translating systems texts usually isn't much work (ca. 100-200 lines of 
text, mostly short strings or words). Maybe an hour of work.

Translating system pages (like RecentChanges, TitleIndex, SiteNavigation 
etc.) also is done quite fast.

So if you want to make MoinMoin a better experience for people of your 
language (especially those who don't speak english), please help us.

If you even have some more time to spend, making translations of the 
help pages is also a nice idea - but this is definitely more work.

Thanks,

Thomas




From tw-public at gmx.de  Sun Feb  8 16:14:14 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun Feb  8 16:14:14 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] language-specific TitleIndex?
In-Reply-To: <20040204214050.87800.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040204214050.87800.qmail@web11308.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4026DAF3.70908@gmx.de>

>    Can anyone suggest a way to get a title index for
>the whole moin, but only those pages in a specific
>language?
>    Right now when I go to the standard TitleIndex
>page, it isn't as useful as it could be because it
>shows all languages.
>  
>
Currently moin doesnt use language informations (although some help 
pages have informations about language).

moin 1.2 will have better system page detection, so most system pages 
won't show up in titleindex, except if requested.




From lele at nautilus.homeip.net  Mon Feb  9 02:37:03 2004
From: lele at nautilus.homeip.net (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Mon Feb  9 02:37:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Translations needed for MoinMoin 1.2
In-Reply-To: <4026DA33.2050709@gmx.de>
References: <4026DA33.2050709@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <m3vfmgpmgy.fsf@paci.nautilus>

>>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> writes:

    Thomas> Translating systems texts usually isn't much work
    Thomas> (ca. 100-200 lines of text, mostly short strings or
    Thomas> words). Maybe an hour of work.

Hi Thomas,

I'm doing that right now for the italian messages.  Where should I
send the new "it.po", once finished?

thanks&bye, lele.
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From tw-public at gmx.de  Mon Feb  9 07:49:09 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon Feb  9 07:49:09 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Translations needed for MoinMoin 1.2
References: <4026DA33.2050709@gmx.de> <m3vfmgpmgy.fsf@paci.nautilus>
Message-ID: <4027ABBF.9090105@gmx.de>

Hi Lele,

> I'm doing that right now for the italian messages.  Where should I
> send the new "it.po", once finished?

Best way is to send via email to me, BUT I talked to gian paolo ciceri 
on IRC about doing a translation because I didnt get a reply to the 
email I sent to you (and we dont have that much time left).

He already started and sent me a first update. I am talking to him on 
IRC right now - maybe you both can coordinate your efforts so you don't 
work on the same stuff.

greetings,

Thomas




From tfreitag at upb.de  Mon Feb  9 14:19:23 2004
From: tfreitag at upb.de (Thomas Freitag)
Date: Mon Feb  9 14:19:23 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] problems with user-accounts
Message-ID: <20040209214745.GA678@darkwhole.de>

Hello,
I installed a MoinMoin Wiki (Version 1.1) last week, almost everything looks
fine, but one (important) feature isn't working as it should.

New Users can sign on (enter name, password and email address), after
clicking the CreateProfile-button the message "User preferences saved!"
appears and the user name appears instead of UserPreferences on top
right of the page (everything ok until here), now they uncheck some boxes to adjust
their preferences, subscribe pages etc. click on the Save-button,
after that a message "User name already exists!" appears, nothing is
changed. Next problem is, that even if a cookie is set, no user is
auto logged in, a manual login is possible, but after clicking any link
the user is logged out.

I haven't changed that much in moin_config.py, (added email
configuration, so that users are able to get notifications, get their
login data, this works fine).

Any ideas how to fix this?
-- 
Thomas Freitag



From jd at voelker-web.de  Tue Feb 10 04:47:02 2004
From: jd at voelker-web.de (Joerg Desch)
Date: Tue Feb 10 04:47:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for some Slides or Overviews?
Message-ID: <20040210134605.2a2e8ce3.jd@voelker-web.de>

I would like to introduce the moin wiki to some of the teachers in our
local school. The idea is the usage of an wiki to collect basic
infomations for the children as well as exercises with solutions.

Because most of the teachers are no computer experts, I'm looking for some
slides or overviews (if possible in German) which shows the possibilities
of the wiki technologie from the users point of view.

Are such informations freely available on the internet?

-- 
Joerg Desch (jd AT voelker-web DOT de)



From nino at gaia.de  Tue Feb 10 07:49:02 2004
From: nino at gaia.de (Nino Novak)
Date: Tue Feb 10 07:49:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for some Slides or Overviews?
In-Reply-To: <20040210134605.2a2e8ce3.jd@voelker-web.de>
References: <20040210134605.2a2e8ce3.jd@voelker-web.de>
Message-ID: <200402101648.06062.nino@gaia.de>

On Tuesday 10 February 2004 13:46, Joerg Desch wrote:
> I would like to introduce the moin wiki to some of the teachers in our
> local school. The idea is the usage of an wiki to collect basic
> infomations for the children as well as exercises with solutions.
>
> Because most of the teachers are no computer experts, I'm looking for
> some slides or overviews (if possible in German) which shows the
> possibilities of the wiki technologie from the users point of view.
>
> Are such informations freely available on the internet?

After installing MoinMoin you just have to go to
http://<your_moin_URL>/WikiSchulung/BasisEinf?hrung
(or /WikiCourse/BasicIntroduction for an english version)

Better than the best slide show is some practice with a SandBox ;-)

Nino




From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Feb 10 10:53:03 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue Feb 10 10:53:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] problems with user-accounts
References: <20040209214745.GA678@darkwhole.de>
Message-ID: <4029285A.1040801@gmx.de>

Hi Thomas,

> New Users can sign on (enter name, password and email address), after
> clicking the CreateProfile-button the message "User preferences saved!"
> appears and the user name appears instead of UserPreferences on top
> right of the page (everything ok until here), now they uncheck some boxes to adjust
> their preferences, subscribe pages etc. click on the Save-button,
> after that a message "User name already exists!" appears, nothing is
> changed. Next problem is, that even if a cookie is set, no user is
> auto logged in, a manual login is possible, but after clicking any link
> the user is logged out.

Do you have http basic authentication active on your web server?

With 1.1 that only works if http_auth_username == wiki_username (because 
it uses that basic auth username by default and gets into trouble if 
different).

With 1.2 moin won't use the http auth username except if you explicitely 
enable that via config.

IIRC, we already had that topic here, maybe search the archives for a 
solution if that is your problem (minor code modification needed).

Thomas





From tw-public at gmx.de  Tue Feb 10 10:55:15 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Tue Feb 10 10:55:15 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for some Slides or Overviews?
References: <20040210134605.2a2e8ce3.jd@voelker-web.de>
Message-ID: <402928F4.4080101@gmx.de>

> Because most of the teachers are no computer experts, I'm looking for some
> slides or overviews (if possible in German) which shows the possibilities
> of the wiki technologie from the users point of view.
> 
> Are such informations freely available on the internet?

Did you see the MoinMaster:WikiSchulung (MoinMaster:WikiCourse) slides?

There is not that much more I fear, but with moin, you also can do your 
own slides easily...




From jd at voelker-web.de  Tue Feb 10 22:06:03 2004
From: jd at voelker-web.de (Joerg Desch)
Date: Tue Feb 10 22:06:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for some Slides or Overviews?
In-Reply-To: <200402101648.06062.nino@gaia.de>
References: <20040210134605.2a2e8ce3.jd@voelker-web.de>
	<200402101648.06062.nino@gaia.de>
Message-ID: <20040211070456.7687b5c9.jd@voelker-web.de>

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:48:05 +0100
Nino Novak <nino at gaia.de> wrote:

> After installing MoinMoin you just have to go to
> http://<your_moin_URL>/WikiSchulung/BasisEinf?hrung
> (or /WikiCourse/BasicIntroduction for an english version)

Thanks, I will have a look at this.


> Better than the best slide show is some practice with a SandBox ;-)

That's right, but we (the parents and some teachers) have a meeting inside
the classroom (Elternabend;). There are now computers.

-- 
Joerg Desch <jd AT voelker-web DOT de>



From jd at voelker-web.de  Tue Feb 10 22:07:04 2004
From: jd at voelker-web.de (Joerg Desch)
Date: Tue Feb 10 22:07:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for some Slides or Overviews?
In-Reply-To: <402928F4.4080101@gmx.de>
References: <20040210134605.2a2e8ce3.jd@voelker-web.de>
	<402928F4.4080101@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <20040211070630.31cbd56a.jd@voelker-web.de>

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:54:44 +0100
Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:

Hi Thomas,

> Did you see the MoinMaster:WikiSchulung (MoinMaster:WikiCourse) slides?

No, that new. Thanks for the info.


-- 
Joerg Desch <jd AT voelker-web DOT de>



From jd at voelker-web.de  Tue Feb 10 22:23:00 2004
From: jd at voelker-web.de (Joerg Desch)
Date: Tue Feb 10 22:23:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for some Slides or Overviews?
In-Reply-To: <402928F4.4080101@gmx.de>
References: <20040210134605.2a2e8ce3.jd@voelker-web.de>
	<402928F4.4080101@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <20040211072200.501dbce0.jd@voelker-web.de>

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 19:54:44 +0100
Thomas Waldmann <tw-public at gmx.de> wrote:

> There is not that much more I fear, but with moin, you also can do your 
> own slides easily...

I have had a look at the slides, and I think is must be enough for a first
start. ;-)

Are there more general descriptions about what a wiki is, and why it is so
good? I'm looking for a description for non computer experts.

PS: Is there a way to get a printed version of the slides?

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From toh at fuji-climb.org  Fri Feb 13 03:58:02 2004
From: toh at fuji-climb.org (Fujio Nobori)
Date: Fri Feb 13 03:58:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] IOError on SystemInfo
Message-ID: <20040213115518.GD11276%toh@fuji-climb.org>

Hello,

I am using recent MoinMoin from moin--main--1.2.tar.gz and
encountered an IOError when viewing SystemInfo page.

This happens if you haven't edited any pages, which means
that you can reproduce this issue if you try to view
SystemInfo page just after the installation.

Well, the problem is that logfile/logfile.py tries to read
the editlog file which doesn't exist yet.

To solve this issue, I modified logfile.py as follows:

    131c131,134
    <         return os.path.getsize(self.__filename)
    ---
    >         try:
    >             return os.path.getsize(self.__filename)
    >         except:
    >             return 0
    139,144c142,150
    <         f = open(self.__filename, 'r')
    <         i = 0
    <         for line in f:
    <             i += 1
    <         f.close()
    <         return i
    ---
    >         try:
    >             f = open(self.__filename, 'r')
    >             i = 0
    >             for line in f:
    >                 i += 1
    >             f.close()
    >             return i
    >         except:
    >             return 0

I am not bright enough to know that this is the right
solution, but I am reporting now anyway.

Thank you very much.

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From snewdl at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 18 10:33:12 2004
From: snewdl at yahoo.com (R. Yu)
Date: Wed Feb 18 10:33:12 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] change notification bug?
Message-ID: <20040218182754.54114.qmail@web41309.mail.yahoo.com>

hi all,

I recently installed moinmoin (version 1.1),
and I have to say that it's a 
very impressive piece of work.
Good work, folks!

I think I've detected a problem with
the change notification by e-mail:

I am running moinmoin on a Linux server
inside my internal network.  the wiki is
externally visible via www.bogusurl.com.
say I have a WikiPage, and multiple 
people are subscribed to ths page.

if I modify WikiPage from the internet,
then the notification e-mail says that
a change occurred in
  http://www.bogusurl.com/wiki/WikiPage
this is the proper behavior, because recipients
can go to this URL and be directed to
WikiPage.

if I modify WikiPage from behind my firewall
(e.g. from machine pc2.bogusurl.com), then
the notification e-mail says that the change
occurred in:
  http://pc2.bogusurl.com/wiki/WikiPage
  (NOT www.bogusurl.com)
this is bad, because recipients will go to
an improper URL and will not find WikiPage.

any comments?

sorry if this has already been covered.  I didn't
see it in the bug list, and it's not clear that
the sourceforge mail archive search is working.

-Rob





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From MAugustin at gmx.net  Mon Feb 23 00:44:04 2004
From: MAugustin at gmx.net (Michael Augustin)
Date: Mon Feb 23 00:44:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Wiki Farm
Message-ID: <9916.1077525362@www4.gmx.net>

Hallo Moin-User,

ich habe mehrere Instanzen auf einem Webserver laufen. Ist es m?glich die
Suche im Moinwiki so zu konfigurieren das sie in allen Instanzen sucht? Ich
m?chte verhindern, dass die einzelnen Wiki-Instanzen seperate Dateninseln werden
und Kopien gleicher Informationen existieren. Ich m?chte aber auch nicht
alle Instanzen aufl?sen und zusammenwerfen, da hier unterschiedliche
Abteilungen/Personen daran arbeiten.

Wie l?sst sich also die vorhandene Information bei der Suche vereinen? Mit
dem Interwiki-Mechanismus kann ich die Seiten der Instanzen schon super
verkn?pfen. Nur die Suche kann nicht in allen Instanzen suchen.

Gibt es hierzu L?sungen oder Ideen?

Danke
Michael Augustin

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From wfouche45 at hotmail.com  Mon Feb 23 18:00:00 2004
From: wfouche45 at hotmail.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Werner_Fouch=E9?=)
Date: Mon Feb 23 18:00:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Formatting strike-through text
Message-ID: <BAY8-DAV168r6beUzmR0000041c@hotmail.com>

Hi,

How does one get MoinMoin to generate strike-through text, in HTML speak that is text surrounded by <STRIKE>.....</STRIKE>.

It does not appear that MoinMoin has this capability, something which is present in OpenWiki.

Thanks,

Werner
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From toh at fuji-climb.org  Mon Feb 23 18:13:01 2004
From: toh at fuji-climb.org (Fujio Nobori)
Date: Mon Feb 23 18:13:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Formatting strike-through text
In-Reply-To: <BAY8-DAV168r6beUzmR0000041c@hotmail.com>
References: <BAY8-DAV168r6beUzmR0000041c@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <20040224020349.GA27545%toh@fuji-climb.org>

Hello,

On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 08:49:55PM -0500, Werner Fouch? wrote:
> How does one get MoinMoin to generate strike-through text, in HTML speak that is text surrounded by <STRIKE>.....</STRIKE>.
> 
> It does not appear that MoinMoin has this capability, something which is present in OpenWiki.

"HTML2" macro is for you.

Check:
    http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/macro_2fHTML2_2epy

and you'll get what you want.

-- 
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                                              m. ( o ) .m
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From toh at fuji-climb.org  Tue Feb 24 02:27:06 2004
From: toh at fuji-climb.org (Fujio Nobori)
Date: Tue Feb 24 02:27:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] PATCH - underlaid directory for system pages
Message-ID: <20040224101818.GA32507@motsu.localdomain>

Hello,

# I already sent this patch to moin-dev.  I am sorry
# bothering again, developers.

Well, this patch lets you use a immutable directory for
pages, such as system pages, which can be shared by
different instances of MoinMoin on a server.

If you have multiple instances on a server, and don't want
system pages or help pages in your every instance, this
patch is for you.

When you use this feature, you put the system pages into one
directory, such as /var/htdocs/common, while the data/text
directory for instances can be completely empty.  If you go
to a FrontPage of an instance and there is no FrontPage in
the data/text directory in that instance, FrontPage in the
shared directory, /var/htdocs/common, is shown, as if it
were in the data/text directory of that instance.  It seems
like there is a shared directory laid under the directory of
an instance.

You can modify FrontPage, of cource,  and modified page is
saved in the data/text directory in that instance.  You can
add, modify, delete, or rename the files of the instance.

If you have some interest in this patch, please visit:

    http://toh.no-ip.com/TohToh/index.cgi/MoinMoinPatch

get the patch, and try it.

I will appreciate any comment.

Regards,

-- 
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From vittone at fnal.gov  Tue Feb 24 08:15:38 2004
From: vittone at fnal.gov (Margherita Vittone Wiersma)
Date: Tue Feb 24 08:15:38 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] a simple questionnew
Message-ID: <200402241605.i1OG51g23270@fsui02.fnal.gov>

Hi,
i am still fairly new to MOIN; i have probably a very simple question:
how do I prevent Moin to interpret something like MyProgram.java
as a link , when i simple want to mentione it as simple text?
Thanks a bunch. Is there a plave where i can find simple answers to
questions like this without bothering everyone?
Thank you much.

Margherita 




From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Tue Feb 24 08:59:06 2004
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Tue Feb 24 08:59:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.2 Upgrade
Message-ID: <20040224164925.46478.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>

I upgraded my Windows/ME test system to 1.2 yesterday. While I haven't
used all the new features yet, I am very impressed. The developers are
to be congratulated!

I only found one small bug not mentioned on:
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo_2fRelease_201_2e2_2e1

The variable width horizontal rule (---------) is broken, this appears
to be caused by:
hr {...
  height: 1px;...}
in the classic screen.css. Removing the height phrase fixes it.

I had a bit of trouble changing my css overrides into a theme. This was
made easy after I discovered the missing __init__.py in
wiki/data/plugin/ documented in the above url and turned off caching by
adding:
  caching_formats = []
to my moin_config.py.

While my theme is just a css override, it was so easy to do that I
would vote for an early removal of the "User CSS URL" from the user
preferences page. 

Roger Haase

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From nino at gaia.de  Tue Feb 24 09:07:01 2004
From: nino at gaia.de (Nino Novak)
Date: Tue Feb 24 09:07:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] a simple questionnew
In-Reply-To: <200402241605.i1OG51g23270@fsui02.fnal.gov>
References: <200402241605.i1OG51g23270@fsui02.fnal.gov>
Message-ID: <200402241754.19050.nino@gaia.de>

On Tuesday 24 February 2004 17:05, Margherita Vittone Wiersma wrote:
> Hi,
> i am still fairly new to MOIN; i have probably a very simple question:
> how do I prevent Moin to interpret something like MyProgram.java
> as a link , when i simple want to mentione it as simple text?

set 
bang_meta = 1
in your moin_config.py

Then you can write !MyProgram.java and the autolinking will be escaped.


> Thanks a bunch. Is there a plave where i can find simple answers to
> questions like this without bothering everyone?
> Thank you much.
>
> Margherita
>
>
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From hans.prueller at gmx.net  Tue Feb 24 09:25:19 2004
From: hans.prueller at gmx.net (Hans Prueller)
Date: Tue Feb 24 09:25:19 2004
Subject: AW: [Moin-user] 1.2 Upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20040224164925.46478.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.6.1466077074.9101.moin-user@python.org>

 
version 1.2 - where did that come from? i downloaded moinmoin wiki last week
and
this was v1.1 ... ???

where do i get 1.2 or a list of new features?

hans
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net 
> [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net] Im Auftrag von 
> Roger Haase
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 24. Februar 2004 17:49
> An: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Betreff: [Moin-user] 1.2 Upgrade
> 
> I upgraded my Windows/ME test system to 1.2 yesterday. While 
> I haven't used all the new features yet, I am very impressed. 
> The developers are to be congratulated!
> 
> I only found one small bug not mentioned on:
> http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinTodo_2fRelease_201_2e2_2e1
> 
> The variable width horizontal rule (---------) is broken, 
> this appears to be caused by:
> hr {...
>   height: 1px;...}
> in the classic screen.css. Removing the height phrase fixes it.
> 
> I had a bit of trouble changing my css overrides into a 
> theme. This was made easy after I discovered the missing 
> __init__.py in wiki/data/plugin/ documented in the above url 
> and turned off caching by
> adding:
>   caching_formats = []
> to my moin_config.py.
> 
> While my theme is just a css override, it was so easy to do 
> that I would vote for an early removal of the "User CSS URL" 
> from the user preferences page. 
> 
> Roger Haase
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From toh at fuji-climb.org  Tue Feb 24 21:24:00 2004
From: toh at fuji-climb.org (Fujio Nobori)
Date: Tue Feb 24 21:24:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.2 Upgrade
In-Reply-To: <200402241727.i1OHRDM08270@mail2.inetd.co.jp>
References: <20040224164925.46478.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com> <200402241727.i1OHRDM08270@mail2.inetd.co.jp>
Message-ID: <20040225051443.GB18940@motsu.localdomain>

Hi,

On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:16:13PM +0100, Hans Prueller wrote:
----snip
> where do i get 1.2 or a list of new features?

It's secretly released on Feb. 20th.  (Did somebody get the
announce???)

You can get it at http://moin.sf.net/
New features are listed in CHANGES file.

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From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Feb 25 10:01:05 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Feb 25 10:01:05 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] change notification bug?
In-Reply-To: <20040218182754.54114.qmail@web41309.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040218182754.54114.qmail@web41309.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <403CE0AC.5030700@gmx.de>

> if I modify WikiPage from behind my firewall
> (e.g. from machine pc2.bogusurl.com), then
> the notification e-mail says that the change
> occurred in:
>   http://pc2.bogusurl.com/wiki/WikiPage
>   (NOT www.bogusurl.com)
> this is bad, because recipients will go to
> an improper URL and will not find WikiPage.
> 
> any comments?

An easy solution might be that you use the "external url" from internal, 
too.



From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Feb 25 10:04:04 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Feb 25 10:04:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Wiki Farm
In-Reply-To: <9916.1077525362@www4.gmx.net>
References: <9916.1077525362@www4.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <403CE140.7050806@gmx.de>

> ich habe mehrere Instanzen auf einem Webserver laufen. Ist es m?glich die
> Suche im Moinwiki so zu konfigurieren das sie in allen Instanzen sucht?

Nein.

> m?chte verhindern, dass die einzelnen Wiki-Instanzen seperate Dateninseln werden
> und Kopien gleicher Informationen existieren. Ich m?chte aber auch nicht
> alle Instanzen aufl?sen und zusammenwerfen, da hier unterschiedliche
> Abteilungen/Personen daran arbeiten.

Also wenn es um Berechtigungen geht: daf?r gibt es ACLs und Gruppen.

> Wie l?sst sich also die vorhandene Information bei der Suche vereinen?

Bis jetzt eigentlich gar nicht. Du koenntest aber wohl ueber xmlrpc was 
basteln.



From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Feb 25 10:18:01 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Feb 25 10:18:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] a simple questionnew
In-Reply-To: <200402241605.i1OG51g23270@fsui02.fnal.gov>
References: <200402241605.i1OG51g23270@fsui02.fnal.gov>
Message-ID: <403CE47B.7000003@gmx.de>

> i am still fairly new to MOIN; i have probably a very simple question:
> how do I prevent Moin to interpret something like MyProgram.java
> as a link

Either use !NoWikiName or `NoWikiName` or {{{NoWikiName}}} or 
No``Wiki``Name.

Btw, did you see HelpContents in your wiki? ;)




From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Feb 25 10:23:06 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Feb 25 10:23:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.2 Upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20040224164925.46478.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20040224164925.46478.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <403CE5CC.9060801@gmx.de>

> While my theme is just a css override, it was so easy to do that I
> would vote for an early removal of the "User CSS URL" from the user
> preferences page. 

No, that should be kept there. Just for user (not admin) customized url.

So if anybody complains about CSS, you can say "you can use your own". ;)



From tw-public at gmx.de  Wed Feb 25 10:30:05 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Feb 25 10:30:05 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.2 Upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20040225051443.GB18940@motsu.localdomain>
References: <20040224164925.46478.qmail@web14307.mail.yahoo.com> <200402241727.i1OHRDM08270@mail2.inetd.co.jp> <20040225051443.GB18940@motsu.localdomain>
Message-ID: <403CE771.4010207@gmx.de>

> It's secretly released on Feb. 20th.  (Did somebody get the
> announce???)

I checked the checkbox for sending SF announcement mails to 70 (?) 
people when releasing it via sourceforge (and it told me after 
submitting that it did send the mails). Maybe they had some malfunction?

It was also announced on freshmeat and the moinmoin wiki.

It was also announced on #moin IRC channel topic.

Not quite secret, huh? ;)

> You can get it at http://moin.sf.net/

This URL and its content is outdated. This is a bunch of static html 
pages with access rights read-only for everybody except juergen hermann.

Use http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/ or http://sf.net/projects/moin/





From nick at rockstarvancouver.com  Wed Feb 25 11:11:05 2004
From: nick at rockstarvancouver.com (Nick Trout)
Date: Wed Feb 25 11:11:05 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] SVG
Message-ID: <911F8C8EB7A8084AAEDD55CEDC54D8F84B0DC5@iggy.rockstarvancouver.com>


Is SVG a widely enough supported format that Moin could consider moving
the graphs over to it?

Nick




From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 25 18:34:59 2004
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Wed Feb 25 18:34:59 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Webware?
Message-ID: <20040226022444.89177.qmail@web14303.mail.yahoo.com>

Anyone looking at getting Moin 1.2 working under Webware?

Roger Haase

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From mikeraz at patch.com  Wed Feb 25 19:01:00 2004
From: mikeraz at patch.com (Michael Rasmussen)
Date: Wed Feb 25 19:01:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] 1.2 upgrade
Message-ID: <20040226024806.GC19542@patch.com>

Can one do an in-place upgrade of a 1.1 system or will things break?
The notes are explicit on this.

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From tw-public at gmx.de  Thu Feb 26 06:24:13 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Feb 26 06:24:13 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] SVG
In-Reply-To: <911F8C8EB7A8084AAEDD55CEDC54D8F84B0DC5@iggy.rockstarvancouver.com>
References: <911F8C8EB7A8084AAEDD55CEDC54D8F84B0DC5@iggy.rockstarvancouver.com>
Message-ID: <403DFF2D.9090908@gmx.de>

> Is SVG a widely enough supported format that Moin could consider moving
> the graphs over to it?

Which "graphs"?
  * TWikiDraw -> needs some JAVA coder (not me, definitely)
  * Moin iconbar icons?
  * Moin Logo?

In general, I think PNG is supported better as a end user format.

But we could use SVG for internal development and pre-render PNG in 
different sizes out of it.

The main problem is that most developers are not desgin / graphics 
people at all and moin would definitely need some artistic people caring 
for that stuff.

We also need a "MoinMoin powered" logo for footer area.

Nir Soffer is working on a "modern" theme (will get in in 1.3 devel).

Heather Stern did some icons quite a while ago. Due to changes in moin, 
they are incomplete (RAW icon missing).

And of course, there are the (IMHO too small) original icons.

So if you want to work on that, please do. See the wiki for some 
criteria we think icons should fullfil.

greetings, Thomas



From ms419 at freezone.co.uk  Thu Feb 26 18:27:03 2004
From: ms419 at freezone.co.uk (ms419 at freezone.co.uk)
Date: Thu Feb 26 18:27:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Force Line Break
Message-ID: <F5BC015B-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>

I'm trying to post a poem in verse to my Moin Wiki - is it possible to 
force a line break?

LaTeX treats blank space and line breaks similarly to Moin, but I know 
how to force a line break in LaTex ...

Thanks!

Jack




From ms419 at freezone.co.uk  Thu Feb 26 18:27:04 2004
From: ms419 at freezone.co.uk (ms419 at freezone.co.uk)
Date: Thu Feb 26 18:27:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] editlog and RecentChanges RSS
Message-ID: <F24EA982-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>

I've two Moin installations, one for which the RecentChanges RSS works  
and one for which it doesn't ...

Accessing the broken RSS feed -  
/RecentChanges?action=macro&macro=RecentChanges&do=rss_rc - reports the  
following:

Please include this information in your bug reports!:
Python 2.2.1 (#1, Aug 10 2002, 15:08:14) [GCC 2.95.3 20010315 (release)  
[FreeBSD]] - /usr/local/bin/python
FreeBSD ren.resnet.sfu.ca 4.6-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-RELEASE #2: Mon Sep  
i386
MoinMoin Release 1.1 [Revision 1.178]

A problem occurred while running a Python script. Here is the sequence  
of function calls leading up to the error, with the most recent  
(innermost) call first. The exception attributes are:
??????__doc__?= 'Mapping key not found.'
??????__getitem__?= <bound method KeyError.__getitem__ of  
<exceptions.KeyError instance at 0x82a054c>>
??????__init__?= <bound method KeyError.__init__ of  
<exceptions.KeyError instance at 0x82a054c>>
??????__module__?= 'exceptions'
??????__str__?= <bound method KeyError.__str__ of <exceptions.KeyError  
instance at 0x82a054c>>
??????args?= ()

/usr/local/lib/python2.2/xml/sax/saxutils.py in  
startElementNS(self=<MoinMoin.wikixml.util.RssGenerator instance>,  
name=(None, 'link'), qname='rdf:Description', attrs={(None, 'link'):  
'http://rha.resnet.sfu.ca/rha/JackBates',  
('http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/wiki/', 'host'):  
u'sfpirg6.stdntsvcs.sfu.ca'})
??101?
  ??102?????????for?(name,?value)?in?attrs.items():


??103?????????????name?=?self._current_context[name[0]]?+?":"?+?name[1]

?????? name?= (None, 'link'), self?=  
<MoinMoin.wikixml.util.RssGenerator instance>, global  
_current_context?= undefined
??104?????????????self._out.write('?%s=%s'?%?(name,?quoteattr(value)))
  ??105?????????self._out.write('>')


/home/rha/lib/python/MoinMoin/wikixml/util.py in  
startNode(self=<MoinMoin.wikixml.util.RssGenerator instance>,  
tag=('http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#', 'Description'),  
attr={(None, 'link'): 'http://rha.resnet.sfu.ca/rha/JackBates',  
('http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/wiki/', 'host'):  
u'sfpirg6.stdntsvcs.sfu.ca'})
???32?????def?startNode(self,?tag,?attr={}):
  ???33?????????tag,?qname?=?self._build_tag(tag)


???34?????????self.startElementNS(tag,?qname,?attr)

?????? self?= <MoinMoin.wikixml.util.RssGenerator instance>, global  
startElementNS?= undefined, tag?=  
('http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#', 'Description'), qname?=  
'rdf:Description', attr?= {(None, 'link'):  
'http://rha.resnet.sfu.ca/rha/JackBates',  
('http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/wiki/', 'host'):  
u'sfpirg6.stdntsvcs.sfu.ca'}
???35?
  ???36?????def?endNode(self,?tag):


/home/rha/lib/python/MoinMoin/macro/RecentChanges.py in  
do_rss_rc(pagename='RecentChanges', request=<MoinMoin.request.Request  
instance>)
??460?????????????????##edattr[(None,?'link')]?=?link?+?"?action=info"
  ??461?????????????handler.startNode(('dc',?'contributor'))


??462?????????????handler.startNode(('rdf',?'Description'),?attr=edattr)

?????? handler?= <MoinMoin.wikixml.util.RssGenerator instance>, global  
startNode?= undefined, global attr?= undefined, edattr?= {(None,  
'link'): 'http://rha.resnet.sfu.ca/rha/JackBates',  
('http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/wiki/', 'host'):  
u'sfpirg6.stdntsvcs.sfu.ca'}
??463?????????????handler.simpleNode(('rdf',?'value'),?edname)
  ??464?????????????handler.endNode(('rdf',?'Description'))


/home/rha/lib/python/MoinMoin/wikimacro.py in  
execute_external_macro(macro_name='RecentChanges',  
function='do_rss_rc', args=('RecentChanges', <MoinMoin.request.Request  
instance>))
???69?????if?macro_name?in?macro.extension_macros:
   
???70?????????execute?=?pysupport.importName("MoinMoin.macro."?+?macro_n 
ame,?function)


???71?????????return?execute(*args)

?????? execute?= <function do_rss_rc>, args?= ('RecentChanges',  
<MoinMoin.request.Request instance>)
???72?
  ???73?????#?try?plugin?dir


/home/rha/lib/python/MoinMoin/wikiaction.py in  
do_macro(pagename='RecentChanges', request=<MoinMoin.request.Request  
instance>)
??687?????function?=?'do_'?+?request.form["do"].value
  ??688?


??689?????wikimacro.execute_external_macro(macro_name,?function,?(pagena 
me,?request))

?????? wikimacro?= <module 'MoinMoin.wikimacro' from  
'/home/rha/lib/python/MoinMoin/wikimacro.pyc'>, global  
execute_external_macro?= undefined, macro_name?= 'RecentChanges',  
function?= 'do_rss_rc', pagename?= 'RecentChanges', request?=  
<MoinMoin.request.Request instance>
??690?
  ??691?


/home/rha/lib/python/MoinMoin/cgimain.py in run(properties={})
??210?????????else:
  ??211?????????????try:


??212?????????????????cgitb.handler()

?????? cgitb?= <module 'MoinMoin.support.cgitb' from  
'/home/rha/lib/python/MoinMoin/support/cgitb.pyc'>, handler?= <function  
do_macro>
??213?????????????except:
  ??214?????????????????cgi.print_exception(*saved_exc)

As far as I can tell, the important difference between the two is the  
fifth field of the edit log:

FrontPage	65.110.29.189	1077509118.3026841	cust-65-110-29-189.sfu- 
resnet.connectwest.net	1077471682.08.79218	executive.jpg	ATTNEW
Calendar	65.110.29.189	1077510724	cust-65-110-29-189.sfu- 
resnet.connectwest.net	1077471682.08.79218		SAVE
FrontPage	65.110.29.189	1077510761	cust-65-110-29-189.sfu- 
resnet.connectwest.net	1077471682.08.79218		SAVE

If I remove it, the RecentChanges RSS works ...

Why's it there? In only one case?

Thanks!

Jack




From jvilhena at softhome.net  Thu Feb 26 18:50:07 2004
From: jvilhena at softhome.net (jvilhena)
Date: Thu Feb 26 18:50:07 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Force Line Break
In-Reply-To: <F5BC015B-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>
References: <F5BC015B-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>
Message-ID: <403EADA9.1030206@softhome.net>

ms419 at freezone.co.uk wrote:

> I'm trying to post a poem in verse to my Moin Wiki - is it possible to 
> force a line break?
> 
> LaTeX treats blank space and line breaks similarly to Moin, but I know 
> how to force a line break in LaTex ...

[[BR]]


-- 
Best Regards
jvilhena



From jvilhena at softhome.net  Thu Feb 26 19:01:00 2004
From: jvilhena at softhome.net (jvilhena)
Date: Thu Feb 26 19:01:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with local links in Mozilla.
In-Reply-To: <F5BC015B-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>
References: <F5BC015B-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>
Message-ID: <403EB02C.2020106@softhome.net>

Hello.

I have some links to local files, like file://c:\dir\text.txt, in my 
personal MoinMoin that work with Internet Explorer, but not with Mozilla 
(my prefered browser). Anyone knows why?


-- 
Best Regards
jvilhena



From jvilhena at softhome.net  Thu Feb 26 19:10:01 2004
From: jvilhena at softhome.net (jvilhena)
Date: Thu Feb 26 19:10:01 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] It's possible to link to almost every word in the wiki?
Message-ID: <403EB239.7000507@softhome.net>

I would like to automatically create links to all words in the wiki,
with the exception of the words listed in some specified file.
Is this possible with the actual code or with some minor changes?

-- 
Best Regards
jvilhena





From jvilhena at softhome.net  Thu Feb 26 19:12:00 2004
From: jvilhena at softhome.net (jvilhena)
Date: Thu Feb 26 19:12:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with local links in Mozilla.
Message-ID: <403EB2D0.8060807@softhome.net>

Hello.

I have some links to local files, like file://c:\dir\text.txt, in my 
personal MoinMoin that work with Internet Explorer, but not with Mozilla 
(my preferred browser). Anyone knows why?


-- 
Best Regards
jvilhena



From MAugustin at gmx.net  Fri Feb 27 00:00:03 2004
From: MAugustin at gmx.net (Michael Augustin)
Date: Fri Feb 27 00:00:03 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] (no subject)
Message-ID: <24607.1077868164@www4.gmx.net>

Hi,

put this line

user_pref("security.checkloaduri", false);

in your prefs.js file in your Mozilla or Firebird/Thunderbird
profile-directory.

Don't ask for the details. Its a long discussion at 
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84128#c174

bye
Michael Augustin


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From MAugustin at gmx.net  Fri Feb 27 00:06:04 2004
From: MAugustin at gmx.net (Michael Augustin)
Date: Fri Feb 27 00:06:04 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Wiki Farm
Message-ID: <14431.1077868522@www4.gmx.net>

Hi,

sorry for the german language before. I found a lot of german mails in the
archive of this list and that's why ... - but now in english.

I asked, if it is possible to search in more than one local wiki-instance -
in the whole wiki-farm.

TW said "no".

But there are some possible points to add this behavior:

1. change or create a new FullSearch-Macro.

2. Change the wikiutil.searchPage - Function.

3. Change the wikiutil.getPageList /getPageDict - Function.

What would be the best of these alternatives?

Or should I ask this question on the moin-dev-list?

bye and thanks
Michael Augustin

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From MAugustin at gmx.net  Fri Feb 27 00:07:06 2004
From: MAugustin at gmx.net (Michael Augustin)
Date: Fri Feb 27 00:07:06 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Problems with local links in Mozilla.
References: <24607.1077868164@www4.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <18847.1077868578@www4.gmx.net>

Hi,

put this line

user_pref("security.checkloaduri", false);

in your prefs.js file in your Mozilla or Firebird/Thunderbird
profile-directory.

Don't ask for the details. Its a long discussion at 
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84128#c174

bye
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Date: Fri Feb 27 01:43:02 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] =?GB2312?B?0eDQ/TEzODI5NDUxOTc1?=
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From N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk  Fri Feb 27 06:12:15 2004
From: N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk (Neil Brooks)
Date: Fri Feb 27 06:12:15 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] editlog and RecentChanges RSS
In-Reply-To: <F24EA982-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>
References: <F24EA982-68CA-11D8-BA49-000A95C71776@freezone.co.uk>
Message-ID: <99968453.1077890465@D8KY5D0J.ex.ac.uk>

Can I just say this happens to me as well? Exactly the same point of 
failure but I haven't investigated the edit-logs. I'm running MoinMoin 1.2 
on Python 2.3.2\Windows XP\IIS 5.

Neil
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From dan.gregory at mci.com  Fri Feb 27 15:58:09 2004
From: dan.gregory at mci.com (Dan Gregory)
Date: Fri Feb 27 15:58:09 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] Wiki Farm
In-Reply-To: <14431.1077868522@www4.gmx.net>
References: <14431.1077868522@www4.gmx.net>
Message-ID: <403FD46B.8010102@mci.com>

Michael,

What are you calling a Wiki Farm?  To my knowledge there isn't support 
for any Wiki Farm concepts in MoinMoin, but I would be interested in 
this feature (and any other Farm type features).

Dan

Michael Augustin wrote:

>Hi,
>
>sorry for the german language before. I found a lot of german mails in the
>archive of this list and that's why ... - but now in english.
>
>I asked, if it is possible to search in more than one local wiki-instance -
>in the whole wiki-farm.
>
>TW said "no".
>
>But there are some possible points to add this behavior:
>
>1. change or create a new FullSearch-Macro.
>
>2. Change the wikiutil.searchPage - Function.
>
>3. Change the wikiutil.getPageList /getPageDict - Function.
>
>What would be the best of these alternatives?
>
>Or should I ask this question on the moin-dev-list?
>
>bye and thanks
>Michael Augustin
>
>  
>



From tw-public at gmx.de  Sat Feb 28 05:33:00 2004
From: tw-public at gmx.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sat Feb 28 05:33:00 2004
Subject: [Moin-user] It's possible to link to almost every word in the
 wiki?
In-Reply-To: <403EB239.7000507@softhome.net>
References: <403EB239.7000507@softhome.net>
Message-ID: <4040A023.4090307@gmx.de>

 > I would like to automatically create links to all words in the wiki,
 > with the exception of the words listed in some specified file.
 > Is this possible with the actual code or with some minor changes?

Search the moin wiki for "GaGa".

There is no current version of it, though. Maybe I refresh it and write 
some plugin parser for it some day.