From steve at osdir.com  Tue Jul  1 07:38:17 2003
From: steve at osdir.com (Steve Mallett)
Date: Tue Jul  1 07:38:17 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] new install
Message-ID: <90481BE0-ABD1-11D7-84C1-000A9575FBF0@osdir.com>

FYI I just started a moinmoin wiki for open source: 
http://ospedia.osdir.com

Steve Mallett - Imagineer
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From skip at pobox.com  Tue Jul  1 08:13:17 2003
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Tue Jul  1 08:13:17 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Howto: edit security, ACLs?
Message-ID: <16129.37368.336147.322660@montanaro.dyndns.org>

I have a couple questions.  Someone recently began scribbling on a bunch of
Python-related Wikis, inserting a link to a porn site, presumably in the
hope that the site's Google page rank would increase.  I run the Python VM
Wiki: <http://manatee.mojam.com/pyvmwiki>, which keeps getting scribbled on
in the same way.

To try and thwart this person/organization, I just modified moin_config.py
like so:

    # security (deactivated by default)
    if 1:
        allowed_actions = ['DeletePage', 'AttachFile']

        from MoinMoin.security import Permissions
        class SecurityPolicy(Permissions):
            edit = 1
            delete = 1
            def __init__(self, user):
                self.user = user
                self.edit = self.edit and user.valid
                self.delete = self.delete and user.valid

If I log out, I lose the EditPage links and I see that I'm not allowed to
edit pages.  I realize that requiring user logins is not the WikiWay, but
I'm tired of having to repeatedly correct the page this bozo keeps
scribbling on.  Is my change above the correct (technical) change?

A second related question.  Poking around SF with viewcvs I saw mention of
ACLs in a couple checkin messages.  Is there some other security scheme in
the works?

Thx,

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From N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk  Tue Jul  1 10:40:22 2003
From: N.F.Brooks at exeter.ac.uk (Neil Brooks)
Date: Tue Jul  1 10:40:22 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] WinXP 'CreateProcess' 'Access is denied'
Message-ID: <112496078.1057084701@D8KY5D0J.ex.ac.uk>

Hi,

I cannot get diff to work on an XP box running IIS 5. I get the error as 
listed in the subject. What do I need to set in order to allow diff to run? 
Does it matter where the diff.exe is?

running MoinMoin 1.0 on Python 2.2.3

TIA

Neil

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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Wed Jul  2 16:49:07 2003
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Jul  2 16:49:07 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] new install
In-Reply-To: <90481BE0-ABD1-11D7-84C1-000A9575FBF0@osdir.com>
References: <90481BE0-ABD1-11D7-84C1-000A9575FBF0@osdir.com>
Message-ID: <3F037328.4050201@waldmann-edv.de>

 > FYI I just started a moinmoin wiki for open source: 
http://ospedia.osdir.com

Well, you could just join us at linuxwiki.org (linux + free software) ;) 
We plan to support multiple languages soon.

greetings, Thomas





From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Wed Jul  2 17:17:04 2003
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Wed Jul  2 17:17:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Howto: edit security, ACLs?
In-Reply-To: <16129.37368.336147.322660@montanaro.dyndns.org>
References: <16129.37368.336147.322660@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <3F03729D.3010402@waldmann-edv.de>

>Python-related Wikis, inserting a link to a porn site, presumably in the
>hope that the site's Google page rank would increase.  I run the Python VM
>Wiki: <http://manatee.mojam.com/pyvmwiki>, which keeps getting scribbled on
>in the same way.
>
If you are logged in, you can click on the info icon and just revert the 
page to an older version with a single click in revision history.
That's less work than the guy has writing the stuff in...

>edit pages.  I realize that requiring user logins is not the WikiWay, but
>I'm tired of having to repeatedly correct the page this bozo keeps
>scribbling on.
>
If there are other logged in users in your wiki, they can do some of the 
reverts, too.

>A second related question.  Poking around SF with viewcvs I saw mention of
>ACLs in a couple checkin messages.  Is there some other security scheme in
>the works?
>
In the CVS version is a working ACL implementation. Read about it in the 
MoinMoin wiki on page AccessControlList.

Be aware that ACLs are not wiki way at all, so use them rarely.

greetings, Thomas






From steve at osdir.com  Wed Jul  2 18:40:05 2003
From: steve at osdir.com (Steve Mallett)
Date: Wed Jul  2 18:40:05 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] new install
In-Reply-To: <3F037328.4050201@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <1ABF1F3A-ACF7-11D7-9D6F-000A9575FBF0@osdir.com>

On Wednesday, July 2, 2003, at 09:04  PM, Thomas Waldmann wrote:

> > FYI I just started a moinmoin wiki for open source: 
> http://ospedia.osdir.com
>
> Well, you could just join us at linuxwiki.org (linux + free software) 
> ;) We plan to support multiple languages soon.
>
> greetings, Thomas

I had received just such an invite before.  While I'm a fan of your 
wiki I'm striving to be inclusive of platforms other than Linux as 
well.  I'm also including free software where open source is inclusive 
free software.

I don't see any reason to duplicate the same info.  I'm more than happy 
to encourage linking to your work.

Cheers,

Steve Mallett - Imagineer
http://OSDir.com on the O'Reilly Network | steve at osdir.com
http://opensource.org | webmaster at opensource.org
http://EmergentReport.com <news blog>
http://fooworks.com <personal blog>

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			-Jello Biafra




From danielfels at linuxmail.org  Fri Jul  4 01:34:17 2003
From: danielfels at linuxmail.org (Daniel Fels)
Date: Fri Jul  4 01:34:17 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] New install with errors
Message-ID: <20030704083415.24026.qmail@linuxmail.org>

Hi all

I am trying install moin in an account at an ISP where I can't do telnet, ssh etc. Anything except ftp. Instructions from 
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnUnix.

For now I can run the test: 
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi?test 
but not the wiki: 
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english

Daniel
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From danielfels at linuxmail.org  Fri Jul  4 01:45:28 2003
From: danielfels at linuxmail.org (Daniel Fels)
Date: Fri Jul  4 01:45:28 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Solved! (was New install with errors)
Message-ID: <20030704084521.3797.qmail@linuxmail.org>

Solved! I think I used a moin.cgi from a 1.0 wiki version...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi all

I am trying install moin in an account at an ISP where I can't do telnet, ssh etc. Anything except ftp. Instructions from 
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnUnix.

For now I can run the test: 
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi?test 
but not the wiki: 
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi

Any suggestions ?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english

Daniel
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From danielfels at linuxmail.org  Fri Jul  4 02:41:08 2003
From: danielfels at linuxmail.org (Daniel Fels)
Date: Fri Jul  4 02:41:08 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Again: New install with errors
Message-ID: <20030704094111.31978.qmail@linuxmail.org>

Sorry guys. I am too quick sending emails.

Now I can view the Frontpage:
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki
But moin.cgi is not and scriptalias. Is a cgi. When I want to see another page where the url is 
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi/RecentChanges
the system says "The requested URL /wiki/moin.cgi/RecentChanges was not found on this server."
If I put http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi?RecentChanges
the page is OK.

Any suggestion?
Can put an scriptalias in a local .htaccess?

Thanks in advance
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Fels" <danielfels at linuxmail.org>
Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 16:45:21 +0800 
To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Moin-user] Solved! (was New install with errors)

Solved! I think I used a moin.cgi from a 1.0 wiki version...

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Hi all
I am trying install moin in an account at an ISP where I can't do
telnet, ssh etc. Anything except ftp. Instructions from 
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnUnix.
For now I can run the test: 
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi?test 
but not the wiki: 
http://rotary.elprat.net/wiki/moin.cgi
Any suggestions ?
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english
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From haase at msg.ucsf.edu  Tue Jul  8 12:24:09 2003
From: haase at msg.ucsf.edu (Sebastian Haase)
Date: Tue Jul  8 12:24:09 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] drawing with moinmoin - TWikiDrawPlugin
Message-ID: <052a01c34586$6142d550$421ee6a9@rodan>

Hi All,
How Do I install the java drawing plugin ? (TWikiDrawPlugin )
I cannot find any instruction - I have MoinMoin 1.0 installed.
Moinmoin points me to
here: http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Plugins/TWikiDrawPlugin
but that is about "Twiki" (not MoinMoin) !?

Thanks,
Sebastian Haase







From lele at seldati.it  Tue Jul  8 15:06:09 2003
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Tue Jul  8 15:06:09 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] drawing with moinmoin - TWikiDrawPlugin
In-Reply-To: <052a01c34586$6142d550$421ee6a9@rodan>
References: <052a01c34586$6142d550$421ee6a9@rodan>
Message-ID: <16139.16436.945330.142857@paci.nautilus>

>>>>> Sebastian Haase l'ha dit:

    Sebastian> Hi All, How Do I install the java drawing plugin ?
    Sebastian> (TWikiDrawPlugin ) I cannot find any instruction

It should be already there! Your wiki must have the AttachFile action
enabled. Try adding something like "drawing:picture" in a page,
commit, then follow the link... with a java enhanced browser you
should have the chance of drawing it.

hth, 
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From haase at msg.ucsf.edu  Tue Jul  8 15:52:05 2003
From: haase at msg.ucsf.edu (Sebastian Haase)
Date: Tue Jul  8 15:52:05 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] drawing with moinmoin - TWikiDrawPlugin
References: <052a01c34586$6142d550$421ee6a9@rodan> <16139.16436.945330.142857@paci.nautilus>
Message-ID: <053e01c345a3$76beafe0$421ee6a9@rodan>

Hi,
The directory '..share/moin/htdocs/applets/TWikiDrawPlugin/'
is empty.
I found a zip file named 'TWikiDrawPlugin.zip' on the web.
and in there was a sub directory named 'pub/Plugins/TWikiDrawPlugin'
which contents looked to me like it belonged into the above MoinMoin
directory.
After copying the stuff in there  I get something the looks alright...
But  I'm not entirety sure yet if I was did all this correctly. (The "URL
linking" part doesn't work)

Thanks for the reply
Sebastian


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lele Gaifax" <lele at seldati.it>
To: <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Moin-user] drawing with moinmoin - TWikiDrawPlugin


>>>>> Sebastian Haase l'ha dit:

    Sebastian> Hi All, How Do I install the java drawing plugin ?
    Sebastian> (TWikiDrawPlugin ) I cannot find any instruction

It should be already there! Your wiki must have the AttachFile action
enabled. Try adding something like "drawing:picture" in a page,
commit, then follow the link... with a java enhanced browser you
should have the chance of drawing it.

hth,
-- 
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real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincer? ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
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From felciano at ingenuity.com  Fri Jul 11 17:06:11 2003
From: felciano at ingenuity.com (Ramon Felciano)
Date: Fri Jul 11 17:06:11 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Offline browsing / wiki synchronization?
Message-ID: <9C17D16FE65EBC4BA4C815B71E6DD61903349EC0@mpexch1.nt.ingenuity.com>

Hi --

I would like to be able to modify my server-based wiki while disconnected -- is there any solution to this? I have MoinMoin working both locally (Windows) and remotely (Linux) and the file layout suggests that I could simply use unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/) or some such to keep the data directories in sync. I'm not all that familiar with Moin's internal structure so I thought I'd check the list before setting it up and maybe screwing up my wiki :-) Are there any internal state mechanisms that would get messed up if I synched back and forth between these setups?

Thanks!

Ramon


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From jh at web.de  Sat Jul 12 02:33:08 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Sat Jul 12 02:33:08 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Offline browsing / wiki synchronization?
In-Reply-To: <9C17D16FE65EBC4BA4C815B71E6DD61903349EC0@mpexch1.nt.ingenuity.com>
Message-ID: <E19bGkF-00027L-00@smtp.web.de>

On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:02:00 -0700, Ramon Felciano wrote:

>I would like to be able to modify my server-based wiki while 
disconnected -- is there any solution to this? I have MoinMoin working 
both locally (Windows) and remotely (Linux) and the file layout 
suggests that I could simply use unison (http://www.cis.upenn.edu/
~bcpierce/unison/) or some such to keep the data directories in sync. 
I'm not all that familiar with Moin's internal structure so I thought 
I'd check the list before setting it up and maybe screwing up my wiki 
:-) Are there any internal state mechanisms that would get messed up if 
I synched back and forth between these setups?

The text files ARE the central place to sync. You'd have two editlogs 
though, and that "screws up" things like page history to some extend. 
Also, you have to merge edit conflicts somehow (unison might do that). 
CVS'ing your text dir is another way to do it.

In short: synching the text dir is enough, but some info will be lost 
(mostly history-related, including recentchanges).


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Sat Jul 12 02:33:10 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Sat Jul 12 02:33:10 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] drawing with moinmoin - TWikiDrawPlugin
In-Reply-To: <053e01c345a3$76beafe0$421ee6a9@rodan>
Message-ID: <E19bGkJ-00027L-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 15:51:26 -0700, Sebastian Haase wrote:

>The directory '..share/moin/htdocs/applets/TWikiDrawPlugin/'
>is empty.

WHERE is it empty? I seem to remember we had a problem with MANIFEST.in 
missing some files and thus the source tarball was broken, but that was 
fixed some time ago.

Please check out the stable cvs tarball. Does that one work for you?

Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Sat Jul 12 02:33:10 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Sat Jul 12 02:33:10 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] WinXP 'CreateProcess' 'Access is denied'
In-Reply-To: <112496078.1057084701@D8KY5D0J.ex.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <E19bGkL-00027L-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 01 Jul 2003 18:38:21 +0100, Neil Brooks wrote:

>I cannot get diff to work on an XP box running IIS 5. I get the error as 
>listed in the subject. What do I need to set in order to allow diff to run? 
>Does it matter where the diff.exe is?
>
>running MoinMoin 1.0 on Python 2.2.3

That is an IIS config problem, and I cannot help there.

What you can do is to switch to the stable CVS tarball, which has almost no 
reference to an external diff left (I think the notify code is the only 
place remaining).


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Sat Jul 12 02:33:15 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Sat Jul 12 02:33:15 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] new install
In-Reply-To: <90481BE0-ABD1-11D7-84C1-000A9575FBF0@osdir.com>
Message-ID: <E19bGkM-00027L-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:37:38 -0300, Steve Mallett wrote:

>Steve Mallett - Imagineer
                 ^^^^^^^^^

I like that, it certainly beats "Senior Whatever Buzzword Person".

Ciao, J?rgen





From uriana at trxmail.com  Mon Jul 14 06:19:26 2003
From: uriana at trxmail.com (uriana at trxmail.com)
Date: Mon Jul 14 06:19:26 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] =?euc-kr?B?o6ixpLDto6m1pcDMxq4sILnMxsMgLSC4uLOywMcgsaTA5Q==?=
Message-ID: <LOVES7kqQHFds7b8quU0002659d@www.lovetrue.co.kr>

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ourceforge.net>  	

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From jens.fellenberg at ion-tof.com  Thu Jul 17 07:32:54 2003
From: jens.fellenberg at ion-tof.com (Jens Fellenberg)
Date: Thu Jul 17 07:32:54 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Problem getting rss_rc working
Message-ID: <006e01c34c70$1853f770$e100a8c0@testjens>

Hi,

I have a problem on getting the rss_rc page running. I installed
MoinMoin Wiki 1.0 on a Suse Linux 7.2 with Python 2.0 an PyXML 0.8.2. It
works well but when displaying the RecentChanges?action=rss_rc page, I
get the following error:

AttributeError: rss

A problem occurred while running a Python script. Here is the sequence
of function calls leading up to the error, with the most recent
(innermost) call first. The exception attributes are:
      args = ('rss',)

/usr/lib/python2.0/site-packages/MoinMoin/wikiaction.py in
do_rss_rc(pagename='RecentChanges', request=<MoinMoin.request.Request
instance>)
  555 def do_rss_rc(pagename, request):
  556     from MoinMoin.macro import RecentChanges
  557     RecentChanges.rss(pagename, request)
       RecentChanges = <module 'MoinMoin.macro.RecentChanges' from
'/us.../site-packages/MoinMoin/macro/RecentChanges.pyc'>, global rss =
undefined, pagename = 'RecentChanges', request =
<MoinMoin.request.Request instance>
  558
  559

/usr/lib/python2.0/site-packages/MoinMoin/cgimain.py in
run(properties={})
  233         else:
  234             try:
  235                 cgitb.handler()
       cgitb = <module 'MoinMoin.support.cgitb' from
'/usr/lib/python2.0/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/cgitb.pyc'>, handler
= <function do_rss_rc>
  236             except:
  237                 apply(cgi.print_exception, saved_exc)

lines 557 and 235 are highlighted in pink

Thanks in advance

Jens




From lists at imagefoundation.com  Mon Jul 21 22:21:06 2003
From: lists at imagefoundation.com (Tom Wiebe Lists)
Date: Mon Jul 21 22:21:06 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] url Encoding problems
In-Reply-To: <911F8C8EB7A8084AAEDD55CEDC54D8F810D3BD@iggy.rockstarvancouver.com>
Message-ID: <3AEFA413-BC04-11D7-8285-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>

Hi there,

I'm trying to get moin moin installed on OS X and having a problem with  
the links it's generating.

moin moin seems to be encoding the period (.) in it's urls like so:

http://mydomain.com/lassowiki/ 
moin_2ecgi?action=edit&template=HelpTemplate

instead of

http://lasso.hardh.net/lassowiki/ 
moin.cgi?action=edit&template=HelpTemplate

I followed the instructions in the wiki to install, and have tried with  
the release version, the stable cvs version and the most recent (7/21)  
cvs version, all with the same effect.

The server is running mac os x 10.2.6 with the stock python on apache.  
I previously had it working on my old laptop, which I wiped and sold  
last week, with no problems and am a rank amateur with python, so I'm  
not sure where to look to fix it.

the archives are being untarred with tar, so I'm sure it's not any of  
the occaisional wierdness that stuffit brings to the table.

any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thx,

Tom Wiebe
---------------------
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problems. - William Gibson




From lists at imagefoundation.com  Mon Jul 21 23:58:25 2003
From: lists at imagefoundation.com (Tom Wiebe Lists)
Date: Mon Jul 21 23:58:25 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] url Encoding problems - more info
In-Reply-To: <3AEFA413-BC04-11D7-8285-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>
Message-ID: <BAFE9E8B-BC11-11D7-B7CD-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>

Hello again,

Well, now I'm stumped for sure. I've just installed a fresh copy of  
moin moin on my laptop, and it worked great out of the box, just like  
my previous experience

I've not done anything with python on my server, or my laptop (heck,  
the laptop is only a week old, so it's basically a fresh install as  
provided by apple)

I've run a diff on my httpd.conf from both the server and my laptop and  
not found any unexpected differences, and also done a diff on all the  
moin moin files in /usr/share/moin and  
/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin. there were zero differences  
between the copy on my server and the copy on my laptop.

Any thoughts?

Tom Wiebe

On Monday, July 21, 2003, at 10:20  PM, Tom Wiebe Lists wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> I'm trying to get moin moin installed on OS X and having a problem  
> with the links it's generating.
>
> moin moin seems to be encoding the period (.) in it's urls like so:
>
> http://mydomain.com/lassowiki/ 
> moin_2ecgi?action=edit&template=HelpTemplate
>
> instead of
>
> http://lasso.hardh.net/lassowiki/ 
> moin.cgi?action=edit&template=HelpTemplate
>
> I followed the instructions in the wiki to install, and have tried  
> with the release version, the stable cvs version and the most recent  
> (7/21) cvs version, all with the same effect.
>
> The server is running mac os x 10.2.6 with the stock python on apache.  
> I previously had it working on my old laptop, which I wiped and sold  
> last week, with no problems and am a rank amateur with python, so I'm  
> not sure where to look to fix it.
>
> the archives are being untarred with tar, so I'm sure it's not any of  
> the occaisional wierdness that stuffit brings to the table.
>
> any pointers would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thx,
>
> Tom Wiebe
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From jh at web.de  Tue Jul 22 03:46:02 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Jul 22 03:46:02 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] url Encoding problems
In-Reply-To: <3AEFA413-BC04-11D7-8285-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>
Message-ID: <E19euda-0007CO-00@smtp.web.de>

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:20:38 -0700, Tom Wiebe Lists wrote:

>http://mydomain.com/lassowiki/ 
>moin_2ecgi?action=edit&template=HelpTemplate

That is perfectly ok, since "moin.cgi" is the PAGENAME here (which is 
again correct if you used the usual ScriptAlias setup).


Ciao, J?rgen





From lists at imagefoundation.com  Tue Jul 22 04:01:45 2003
From: lists at imagefoundation.com (Tom Wiebe Lists)
Date: Tue Jul 22 04:01:45 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] url Encoding problems
In-Reply-To: <E19euda-0007CO-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <C2467B46-BC33-11D7-B198-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>

On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 03:46  AM, Juergen Hermann wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 22:20:38 -0700, Tom Wiebe Lists wrote:
>
>> http://mydomain.com/lassowiki/
>> moin_2ecgi?action=edit&template=HelpTemplate
>
> That is perfectly ok, since "moin.cgi" is the PAGENAME here (which is
> again correct if you used the usual ScriptAlias setup).

Juergen,

but the links don't work. Safari and Mozilla, I get a 404 error as 
apache has no way of knowing how to map the request when receiving one 
of these links.

Tom




From jh at web.de  Tue Jul 22 08:16:13 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Jul 22 08:16:13 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] url Encoding problems
In-Reply-To: <C2467B46-BC33-11D7-B198-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>
Message-ID: <E19eyrM-0003C0-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 04:00:51 -0700, Tom Wiebe Lists wrote:

>but the links don't work. Safari and Mozilla, I get a 404 error as 
>apache has no way of knowing how to map the request when receiving one 
>of these links.

Please post the result of the moin.cgi?test URL, especially the 
environment (note that you have to request this from the server 
locally).


Ciao, J?rgen





From lists at imagefoundation.com  Tue Jul 22 10:17:28 2003
From: lists at imagefoundation.com (Tom Wiebe Lists)
Date: Tue Jul 22 10:17:28 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] url Encoding problems
In-Reply-To: <E19eyrM-0003C0-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <444C6681-BC68-11D7-8500-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>

OK,

Now I know there's something screwy on the server. the install, done 
the same, on my laptop is working fine. I cannot dump the test url from 
lynx on the server, I get a no match error. But I can dump the straight 
moin.cgi url (i.e. without the test query). The test query does return 
a result outside of localhost, but of course none of the server 
environment. dumping the test url does work fine on my laptop.

Like an idiot though, I remembered on the way to work that I'm rotating 
my apache error logs now, so the fact I wasn't seeing an error in 
http_errors.log means nothing as that file of probably 6 months old.

Looking in the current error log, I'm getting the following:

/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/config.py:28: UserWarning: 
import of moin_config failed due to "No module named moin_config"; 
default configuration used instead.


The only thing I've been able to find on the moin moin site or google 
is to check the permissions of everything, which I have done. my 
permissions should be OK now, a+rx for all the moinmoin stuff.

where do I look next?

Tom

On Tuesday, July 22, 2003, at 08:16  AM, Juergen Hermann wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 04:00:51 -0700, Tom Wiebe Lists wrote:
>
>> but the links don't work. Safari and Mozilla, I get a 404 error as
>> apache has no way of knowing how to map the request when receiving one
>> of these links.
>
> Please post the result of the moin.cgi?test URL, especially the
> environment (note that you have to request this from the server
> locally).
>
>
> Ciao, J?rgen
>
>




From fyl at a42.com  Sun Jul 27 15:34:03 2003
From: fyl at a42.com (Phil Hughes)
Date: Sun Jul 27 15:34:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Install and images and ...
Message-ID: <20030727223340.GA8990@a42.com>

I once again fought with the install of Moin to get the images to work.
It appears I am not the only person who has had this fight.

I decided to explicitly follow the directions this time. They are "not
quite right". But, I made enough changes that now I am not sure what the
right answer is.

First, the directions say that your Moin will end up in
/usr/local/share. Not sure what is supposed to determine that but mine
ended up in /usr/share. 

The big issue is the location of the img directory--that is, where you
really have to put it and how you change the config program to find it.
In addition, there is no mention of the css and applets directories but
they need to be in the same place.

Again, the directions say that this goes in /usr/local/share (or
/usr/share in my case) but that doesn't work. They have to go into the
real web tree (/srv/www/htdocs by default on SuSE). 

It would be nice if someone who really understood all that was happening
would update the Wiki page and get rid of this confusion. Besides the
need for some minor instruction changes, explaining what determines
where things are looked for would help a lot.

Thanks.
-- 
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From jan.uebernickel at gmx.net  Mon Jul 28 07:16:07 2003
From: jan.uebernickel at gmx.net (Jan Uebernickel)
Date: Mon Jul 28 07:16:07 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Installation Problems
Message-ID: <3F252FD2.7050307@gmx.net>

Hi!

I tried to install Version 1.0 but it didn't work:

RedHat 7.3
Python 1.5.2

$python setup.py install

result:

running install
Traceback (innermost last):
   File "setup.py", line 195, in ?
     apply(setup, (), setup_args)
   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/distutils/core.py", line 138, 
in setup
     dist.run_commands()
   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/distutils/dist.py", line 899, 
in run_commands
     self.run_command(cmd)
   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/distutils/dist.py", line 918, 
in run_command
     cmd_obj.ensure_finalized()
   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/distutils/cmd.py", line 112, 
in ensure_finalized
     self.finalize_options()
   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/distutils/command/install.py", 
line 256, in finalize_options
     (prefix, exec_prefix) = get_config_vars('prefix', 'exec_prefix')
   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/distutils/sysconfig.py", line 
366, in get_config_vars
     func()
   File "/usr/lib/python1.5/site-packages/distutils/sysconfig.py", line 
302, in _init_posix
     raise DistutilsPlatformError, my_msg
distutils.errors.DistutilsPlatformError: invalid Python installation: 
unable to open /usr/lib/python1.5/config/Makefile (No such file or 
directory)

so.. what can i do?

Jan




From skip at pobox.com  Mon Jul 28 07:33:02 2003
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Mon Jul 28 07:33:02 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Installation Problems
In-Reply-To: <3F252FD2.7050307@gmx.net>
References: <3F252FD2.7050307@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <16165.13259.341103.345331@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    Jan> RedHat 7.3
    Jan> Python 1.5.2

    Jan> $python setup.py install

    ...

    Jan> so.. what can i do?

Try

    python2 setup.py install

Skip



From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Mon Jul 28 09:27:10 2003
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon Jul 28 09:27:10 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Installation Problems
In-Reply-To: <3F252FD2.7050307@gmx.net>
References: <3F252FD2.7050307@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <3F254EC3.7080906@waldmann-edv.de>

Hi Jan,

> I tried to install Version 1.0 but it didn't work:
> 
> RedHat 7.3
> Python 1.5.2
> 
> $python setup.py install

If you don't have already, you should install a newer python 
*additionally*. 2.2.x is recommended.

Also, you maybe have to install some package pythonxxxxxx-dev to get 
distutils to work (at least on Debian this is a well known problem).

If you are installing from scratch, I would also recommend using a CVS 
snapshot and *not* 1.0 as 1.0 is very old meanwhile and cvs version 
works pretty good and has lots of bugfixes and nice new features.

greetings,

Thomas




From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Mon Jul 28 09:40:21 2003
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Mon Jul 28 09:40:21 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Install and images and ...
In-Reply-To: <20030727223340.GA8990@a42.com>
References: <20030727223340.GA8990@a42.com>
Message-ID: <3F2551D4.8020406@waldmann-edv.de>

Hi Phil,

the location of MoinMoin python code and the images doesn't really 
matter - it just has to be consistent with moin_config and apache config.

All images and css are referenced by /wiki/... in the HTML code 
generated by the wiki engine (assuming standard configuration). E.g.:
/wiki/img/moin-edit.gif or
/wiki/css/moinmoin.css

So you only have to make sure that if your web server gets a request 
beginning with /wiki/, it will be directed to the directory above img 
and css. This is what the Alias "/wiki/" is for.

The other thing that has to be done right is the web server locating the 
cgi - this is what the ScriptAlias is for (and yes, it REALLY has to be 
different, don't use /wiki for the ScriptAlias!). So you could make a 
ScriptAlias /philwiki /where/ever/it/is/moin.cgi .

In moin.cgi you have to edit the python path if the MoinMoin directory 
is not already in the PYTHONPATH. See the comments at top of the file.

That's all. Feel free to put that into the wiki ;)

Thomas




From Ian at axiomdesign.com  Mon Jul 28 11:10:19 2003
From: Ian at axiomdesign.com (Ian Epperson)
Date: Mon Jul 28 11:10:19 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Online Docs for Windows
Message-ID: <F16192BBA05AD4119AB000A0CC3A87D94775F5@rogue.axiomdesign.com>

I downloaded and installed Moin last week for the first time.  Target system
is a Windows 2003 server running IIS.  The instructions worked, but the zip
file did not contain the online documentation.  This morning I d/led the
.tar.gz file and located the docs and installed the in the appropriate
folder.

Shouldn't the zip file contain these files as well?

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From adulau at foo.be  Tue Jul 29 06:46:06 2003
From: adulau at foo.be (Alexandre Dulaunoy)
Date: Tue Jul 29 06:46:06 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] phpwiki to moin
Message-ID: <20030729132017.GI469@darjeeling>

Hello All,

Is there any script in order  to convert phpwiki pages to moin pages ?
I don't want  to reinvent the whell if something exists  ;-)

Thanks,

adulau

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From djmaecki at ull.at  Wed Jul 30 07:45:10 2003
From: djmaecki at ull.at (Thomas Krennwallner)
Date: Wed Jul 30 07:45:10 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] UserPreferences and WikiName
Message-ID: <20030730144407.GH19193@ull.at>

Hi!

Is it possible that users are only allowed to create an account with a
WikiName as Name argument in the UserPreferences?

So long
Thomas

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From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Wed Jul 30 10:19:02 2003
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Wed Jul 30 10:19:02 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Access Control List Clarification Needed
Message-ID: <20030730171805.20147.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>

My understanding is the ACL code in CVS and the current nightly
tarballs is not yet usable, but waiting for the name/password login
code. Correct?

Roger Haase

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From neil at nackle.org  Thu Jul 31 01:57:06 2003
From: neil at nackle.org (Neil Salter)
Date: Thu Jul 31 01:57:06 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] mod_python status?
Message-ID: <200307310956.21215.neil@nackle.org>

Hello,

Can anyone comment on the status of MoinMoin with relation to mod_python? 
There seems to be a general interest in running under mod_python, though I'm 
not clear on how close MoinMoin is to being runnable under it.

I really like the MoinMoin wiki. For me it strikes the right balance between 
ease of use/simplicity, and features. The biggest drawback for me is 
responsiveness & performance. I'm hoping to set up a company wiki soon 
(running under Apache), and am currently looking at the options. I'd like to 
go with MoinMoin, but am a little concerned about performance.

How close is MoinMoin to being runnable under mod_python?

Thanks in advance for any info,

Neil Salter.




From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Thu Jul 31 03:16:04 2003
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 03:16:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] UserPreferences and WikiName
In-Reply-To: <20030730144407.GH19193@ull.at>
References: <20030730144407.GH19193@ull.at>
Message-ID: <3F28EC25.6060302@waldmann-edv.de>

> Is it possible that users are only allowed to create an account with a
> WikiName as Name argument in the UserPreferences?

Currently not. But I think that would make sense.

Until now you have to write quite some messages telling new users "and 
if you would have made your account name a WikiName, you would have 
quite some advantages ..........".

So if nobody opposes, I think I'll do the code necessary ;)

Thomas




From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Thu Jul 31 03:23:03 2003
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 03:23:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Access Control List Clarification Needed
In-Reply-To: <20030730171805.20147.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20030730171805.20147.qmail@web14306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3F28EDEE.8060208@waldmann-edv.de>

> My understanding is the ACL code in CVS and the current nightly
> tarballs is not yet usable, but waiting for the name/password login
> code. Correct?

Not quite.

Well, if you need a *password login screen*, you will have to wait until 
it's there (or use one of the patches on sourceforge and apply yourself).

But if some users on your system have an account and you can live with 
cookie based "authentication", you already can use ACLs right now.

In earlier days, you could create multiple accounts for the same 
username, but in recent cvs code this isn't possible any more. So a user 
can't get access to protected pages by just changing his username to 
someone else's.

But be careful: already existing "duplicate" accounts might be further 
used, so maybe clean up there before using ACLs.

Of course you also can use ACLs to differentiate between Known: and All: 
- these doesn't depend on authentication anyway. "Trusted:" will come 
after an auth system is in place.

Thomas




From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Thu Jul 31 03:37:03 2003
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 03:37:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] mod_python status?
In-Reply-To: <200307310956.21215.neil@nackle.org>
References: <200307310956.21215.neil@nackle.org>
Message-ID: <3F28F11C.6090009@waldmann-edv.de>

> Can anyone comment on the status of MoinMoin with relation to mod_python? 

Refactorings necessary for that to work reliably have begun. As you can 
see on MoinMoin:MoinDev and linked pages, I have done at least all of 
the easy stuff (print -> request.write).

There are still some questions open, so if you have experience with 
mod_python maybe you can answer some of them or at least take part in 
discussion.

> There seems to be a general interest in running under mod_python, though I'm 
> not clear on how close MoinMoin is to being runnable under it.

Well, "not yet" is the short answer ;)

> I really like the MoinMoin wiki. For me it strikes the right balance between 
> ease of use/simplicity, and features. The biggest drawback for me is 
> responsiveness & performance. I'm hoping to set up a company wiki soon 
> (running under Apache), and am currently looking at the options. I'd like to 
> go with MoinMoin, but am a little concerned about performance.

I think at the beginning you won't have performance problems, so just 
start using it.

Quite some companies already use moinmoin internally. Getting the users 
used to wiki and teaching them how to use it best is much more of a 
problem than performance is (well, speaking of a more or less current 
hardware, not a stone-age machine).

There are also some quite big wikis running on the internet using moin, 
see korean NoSmok wiki, see LinuxWiki.org.

How many wiki users do you expect?

> How close is MoinMoin to being runnable under mod_python?

Some weeks to some months I would say. Ask Juergen Hermann for a more 
precise schedule, he is the guy doing releases.

Personally I am more interested in systems like twisted, keeping the 
wiki engine persistent in RAM all the time.

AFAIK mod_python only does that for a short time, as long as the web 
server process is handling requests. If the web server process 
terminates, python and the wiki engine terminates, too, and a new web 
server, new python and new wiki engine is started again.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Although this is better than CGI (doing that with every request), it is 
not as useful as if the whole stuff just stays loaded forever (well, 
almost ;). Just think of heavyweight stuff that takes some seconds to 
initialize - doing that one time per month is no problem - doing that 
every few seconds or every minute might be a problem.

Thomas




From djmaecki at ull.at  Thu Jul 31 04:10:06 2003
From: djmaecki at ull.at (Thomas Krennwallner)
Date: Thu Jul 31 04:10:06 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] UserPreferences and WikiName
In-Reply-To: <3F28EC25.6060302@waldmann-edv.de>
References: <20030730144407.GH19193@ull.at> <3F28EC25.6060302@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <20030731110918.GJ22096@ull.at>

Hi!

On Thu Jul 31, 2003 at 12:15:01PM +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> >Is it possible that users are only allowed to create an account with a
> >WikiName as Name argument in the UserPreferences?
>
> Until now you have to write quite some messages telling new users "and 
> if you would have made your account name a WikiName, you would have 
> quite some advantages ..........".

I know. And I tell them to do so but they ignore me ;-)

> So if nobody opposes, I think I'll do the code necessary ;)

Perfect. Thank you very much.

So long
Thomas

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From strugglinguser at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 13:59:04 2003
From: strugglinguser at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Jul 31 13:59:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Can't attach files with SSL
Message-ID: <20030731203816.3845.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com>

I recently installed moin on a win2k machine with apache 1.3 + modSSL.  When I go to attach anything I just get directed to an http://page that is not there.  It should be https://page There is nothing in the error logs and nothing gets attached. Hhmm.  Has anyone ran across this little issue and is there a way to correct it?
 
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From strugglinguser at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 15:01:03 2003
From: strugglinguser at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Jul 31 15:01:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Fwd: Can't attach files at all
Message-ID: <20030731215013.60556.qmail@web10010.mail.yahoo.com>

I take that back.  There seems to be other issues than SSL.  I can't attach files at all.  It come back with page not found and I do see an error now in the logs.
 
Invalid method in request \x80L\x01\x03
 
Everything works fine when the standard port 80 is used.  So it's not the SSL, but a port issue.  Is there a quick fix that I can do to allow different ports to be used??

Thanks again.
 
Struggling Newbie User
 

j s <strugglinguser at yahoo.com> wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: j s 
Subject: Can't attach files with SSL 
To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net

I recently installed moin on a win2k machine with apache 1.3 + modSSL.  When I go to attach anything I just get directed to an http://page that is not there.  It should be https://page There is nothing in the error logs and nothing gets attached. Hhmm.  Has anyone ran across this little issue and is there a way to correct it?
 
Thanks,
 
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From strugglinguser at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 31 15:43:07 2003
From: strugglinguser at yahoo.com (j s)
Date: Thu Jul 31 15:43:07 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Fwd: Can't attach files at all
Message-ID: <20030731222344.76129.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com>

OK...Last one.  It seems to be a port 443 thing.  I have tested on port 80, 666, and 444.  All with no problems.  Hhmm.  What now?
 
Going Crazy Struggling Newbie User

j s <strugglinguser at yahoo.com> wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 14:50:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: j s 
Subject: Fwd: Can't attach files at all
To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net

I take that back.  There seems to be other issues than SSL.  I can't attach files at all.  It come back with page not found and I do see an error now in the logs.
 
Invalid method in request \x80L\x01\x03
 
Everything works fine when the standard port 80 is used.  So it's not the SSL, but a port issue.  Is there a quick fix that I can do to allow different ports to be used??

Thanks again.
 
Struggling Newbie User
 

j s <strugglinguser at yahoo.com> wrote:
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:38:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: j s 
Subject: Can't attach files with SSL 
To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net

I recently installed moin on a win2k machine with apache 1.3 + modSSL.  When I go to attach anything I just get directed to an http://page that is not there.  It should be https://page There is nothing in the error logs and nothing gets attached. Hhmm.  Has anyone ran across this little issue and is there a way to correct it?
 
Thanks,
 
StrugglingUser


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From jh at web.de  Thu Jul 31 19:23:03 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 19:23:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] url Encoding problems
In-Reply-To: <444C6681-BC68-11D7-8500-000A959B3CA2@imagefoundation.com>
Message-ID: <E19iPYF-0004ds-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 10:16:43 -0700, Tom Wiebe Lists wrote:

>/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/config.py:28: UserWarning: 
>import of moin_config failed due to "No module named moin_config"; 
>default configuration used instead.

>where do I look next?

You have to have the moin_config module in the same dir as the moin.cgi 
script.


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Thu Jul 31 19:29:03 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 19:29:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Online Docs for Windows
In-Reply-To: <F16192BBA05AD4119AB000A0CC3A87D94775F5@rogue.axiomdesign.com>
Message-ID: <E19iPeM-00054i-00@smtp.web.de>

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:09:38 -0700, Ian Epperson wrote:

>I downloaded and installed Moin last week for the first time.  Target system
>is a Windows 2003 server running IIS.  The instructions worked, but the zip
>file did not contain the online documentation.  This morning I d/led the
>.tar.gz file and located the docs and installed the in the appropriate
>folder.

>Shouldn't the zip file contain these files as well?

What exactly is "the docs"? And what is the exact ZIP file URL?


Ciao, J?rgen





From duncan.margetts at cispl.com.au  Thu Jul 31 19:33:04 2003
From: duncan.margetts at cispl.com.au (Duncan Margetts)
Date: Thu Jul 31 19:33:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin on Xitami
Message-ID: <6A0E44449D3CFC41A0406E8F04BED9CE372551@cisplex1.cispl.com.au>

Hi,

New member to the Group here!

I'm trying to get MoinMoin up and running in our organisation using Xitami
(www.xitami.com) as the Web Server.. I came across an excellent post to this
list from Dierk Hoppner
(http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=2173106 ).. which
seems to have most of what I need.. However, Step 2 of this post describes
create a CGI alias that looks like this:

 CGI aliasPoints to path:
 /dhoc : /moin/dho/moin.bat

 But the new WikiInstance I've created doesn't have this batch file.. I'm
assuming the batch file is an instantiation of Python and the moin.cgi
script.. I'm unsure what form this batch file should take..

I've tried this:

c:\python22\python moin.cgi %1 %2


But it results in the this error when I browse to my Wiki Instance:

c:\moin\cbus>c:\python22\python moin.cgi Content-Type: text/plain MoinMoin
CGI Diagnosis ====================== Your PYTHONPATH is: ['', 'C:\\moin',
'c:\\moin\\cbus', 'c:\\python22\\DLLs', 'c:\\python22\\lib',
'c:\\python22\\lib\\lib-tk', 'c:\\python22',
'c:\\python22\\lib\\site-packages'] Traceback (innermost last): File
"moin.cgi", line 20, in ? from MoinMoin import cgimain ImportError: No
module named MoinMoin 


Have I missed some fundamental step in either the Xitami configuration or
the creation of the Wiki Instance? What should my batch file REALLY contain?
I'm running on WindowsXP. Opera Browser.. the URL I'm pointing Opera to is :
http://localhost/cbus?test 

CBus is the name of my new Wiki.




Any help most gratefully received.

Kind Regards,

Duncan Margetts.
Clipsal Integrated System,
Adelaide, South Australia.



From jh at web.de  Thu Jul 31 20:13:20 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 20:13:20 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Access Control List Clarification Needed
In-Reply-To: <3F28EDEE.8060208@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <E19iQHL-0003BR-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:22:38 +0200, Thomas Waldmann wrote:

>In earlier days, you could create multiple accounts for the same 
>username, but in recent cvs code this isn't possible any more.

Yes, and you prevent that users can save their preferences when multiple 
accounts already exist. Please fix this (only check on CREATING an account, 
or when CHANGING the username).

Or only check with ACL activated (so an admin can decide himself when do the 
account cleanup). This option is probably the clearest, since this rule is 
simpler than the above.


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Thu Jul 31 20:14:16 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 20:14:16 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin on Xitami
In-Reply-To: <6A0E44449D3CFC41A0406E8F04BED9CE372551@cisplex1.cispl.com.au>
Message-ID: <E19iQM6-0003QM-00@smtp.web.de>

On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:01:50 +0930, Duncan Margetts wrote:

>c:\python22\python moin.cgi %1 %2

Add @echo off in line 1!

Also, your python path obviously is wrong (C:\moin is in it, but you might need 
C:\moin\lib or C:\moin\lib\site-packages).


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Thu Jul 31 20:15:19 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 20:15:19 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Can't attach files with SSL
In-Reply-To: <20030731203816.3845.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E19iQHL-0003BR-01@smtp.web.de>

I doubt the exact URL is http://page, which does not increase the 
chances of finding the problem.

The likely cause is that SSL dectection fails. Send a https://...?test 
output.

--Original Message Text---
From: j s
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:38:16 -0700 (PDT)

I recently installed moin on a win2k machine with apache 1.3 + modSSL.  
When I go to attach anything I just get directed to an http://page that 
is not there.  It should be https://page There is nothing in the error 
logs and nothing gets attached. Hhmm.  Has anyone ran across this 
little issue and is there a way to correct it?




Ciao, J?rgen

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From jh at web.de  Thu Jul 31 20:17:18 2003
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu Jul 31 20:17:18 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Fwd: Can't attach files at all
In-Reply-To: <20030731222344.76129.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <E19iQPI-0003qN-00@smtp.web.de>

It's VERY likely that your server is simply misconfigured regarding SSL 
mode.

--Original Message Text---
From: j s
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 15:23:44 -0700 (PDT)

OK...Last one.  It seems to be a port 443 thing.  I have tested on port 
80, 666, and 444.  All with no problems.  Hhmm.  What now?


Ciao, J?rgen

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From duncan.margetts at cispl.com.au  Thu Jul 31 22:39:08 2003
From: duncan.margetts at cispl.com.au (Duncan Margetts)
Date: Thu Jul 31 22:39:08 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin on Xitami
Message-ID: <6A0E44449D3CFC41A0406E8F04BED9CE372558@cisplex1.cispl.com.au>

Hi Juergen,
 
Solution was pretty much what you suggested.. I made the change in the
Environment Variable.. but it appears I have to make the addition to the
path in moin.cgi.. I added this line to moin.cgi
 
sys.path.append('C:\moin\lib\site-packages')
 
Many thanks once again..
 
Cheers, Duncan.

-----Original Message-----
From: Juergen Hermann [mailto:jh at web.de]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 1:36 PM
To: Duncan Margetts
Subject: RE: [Moin-user] Moin on Xitami


Please post the cause & solution of the problem, since otherwise other users
have to jump through the same hoops if they have your problem.

--Original Message Text---
From: Duncan Margetts
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:59:53 +0930

RE: [Moin-user] Moin on Xitami 

OK.. cancel that last message! I have it working now! 

Thanks, DUncan. 

> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Duncan Margetts 
> Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 12:55 PM 
> To: 'Juergen Hermann' 
> Subject: RE: [Moin-user] Moin on Xitami 
> 
> 
> Hi Juergen, 
> 
> Thanks for your prompt reply.. I think I'm edging closer! 
> 
> The output from http://localhost/cbus?test is now: 
> 
> MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis 
> ====================== 
> Your PYTHONPATH is: 
> ['', 
> 'C:\\moin', 
> 'c:\\moin\\cbus', 
> 'c:\\python22\\DLLs', 
> 'c:\\python22\\lib', 
> 'c:\\python22\\lib\\lib-tk', 
> 'c:\\python22', 
> 'c:\\python22\\lib\\site-packages'] 
> Traceback (innermost last): 
> File "moin.cgi", line 20, in ? 
> from MoinMoin import cgimain 
> ImportError: No module named MoinMoi 
> 
> 
> Do you have any thoughts on what might be wrong? 
> 
> Thanks, 
> 
> 
> Duncan. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Juergen Hermann [mailto:jh at web.de] 
> > Sent: Friday, 1 August 2003 12:43 PM 
> > To: Duncan Margetts; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net 
> > Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Moin on Xitami 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, 1 Aug 2003 12:01:50 +0930, Duncan Margetts wrote: 
> > 
> > >c:\python22\python moin.cgi %1 %2 
> > 
> > Add @echo off in line 1! 
> > 
> > Also, your python path obviously is wrong (C:\moin is in it, 
> > but you might need 
> > C:\moin\lib or C:\moin\lib\site-packages). 
> > 
> > 
> > Ciao, J?rgen 
> > 
> > 
> 

Ciao, J?rgen 

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