From asf at void.at  Fri Aug  1 01:01:12 2003
From: asf at void.at (Andreas Fuchs)
Date: Fri Aug  1 01:01:12 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: UserPreferences and WikiName
References: <20030730144407.GH19193@ull.at> <3F28EC25.6060302@waldmann-edv.de>
Message-ID: <86u191c1p2.fsf@boinkine.defun.at>

On 2003-07-31, Thomas Waldmann <tw at waldmann-edv.de> wrote:
> Currently not. But I think that would make sense.
>
> Until now you have to write quite some messages telling new users "and
> if you would have made your account name a WikiName, you would have
> quite some advantages ..........".
>
> So if nobody opposes, I think I'll do the code necessary ;)

Hm, I do. Somehow, the people on our internal wiki want to keep their
short login names. They don't seem interested in keeping a page of
their own, either; so I guess it would make sense to make this a
configuration option, like force_wikinames or something.

Thanks,
-- 
Andreas Fuchs, <asf at acm.org>, asf at jabber.at, antifuchs




From heeya at koreaweeks.com  Fri Aug  1 07:45:11 2003
From: heeya at koreaweeks.com (heeya at koreaweeks.com)
Date: Fri Aug  1 07:45:11 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] =?euc-kr?B?o6ixpLDto6m1pcDMxq4sILnMxsMgLSC4uLOywMcgsaTA5SDD38O1?=
Message-ID: <NS4JbYlfc3VPEerRL5X0002e210@ns4.solife.net>

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From Ian at axiomdesign.com  Fri Aug  1 09:54:02 2003
From: Ian at axiomdesign.com (Ian Epperson)
Date: Fri Aug  1 09:54:02 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Online Docs for Windows
Message-ID: <F16192BBA05AD4119AB000A0CC3A87D9477601@rogue.axiomdesign.com>

Sorry, Docs = Documentation

Odd...

I had downloaded the moin-1.0.zip file through the Sourceforge page here:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=8482
(can't remember which mirror I used)

And the /wiki/data/text folder was completely empty.  So, I downloaded the
moin-1.0.tar.gz, extracted the /wiki/data/text folder and manually placed it
in my installation. 

I just now downloaded the moin-1.0.zip file from the EasyNews mirror, and
all the files in /wiki/data/text are there.

Bad mirror?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Hermann [mailto:jh at web.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 7:28 PM
> To: Ian Epperson; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Online Docs for Windows
> 
> 
> On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 11:09:38 -0700, Ian Epperson wrote:
> 
> >I downloaded and installed Moin last week for the first 
> time.  Target system
> >is a Windows 2003 server running IIS.  The instructions 
> worked, but the zip
> >file did not contain the online documentation.  This morning 
> I d/led the
> >.tar.gz file and located the docs and installed the in the 
> appropriate
> >folder.
> 
> >Shouldn't the zip file contain these files as well?
> 
> What exactly is "the docs"? And what is the exact ZIP file URL?
> 
> 
> Ciao, J?rgen
> 
> 



From radsinha at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  1 10:29:01 2003
From: radsinha at yahoo.com (radhika sinha)
Date: Fri Aug  1 10:29:01 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Help with font size
Message-ID: <20030801172804.44260.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

Is there a way to modify the font size for the text in
tables? Right now we have wikis where the text in
tables is much bigger than the rest of the wiki page.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. Please cc me at
radsinha at yahoo.com as I do not yet subscribe to the
moin-user mailing list.

Thanks,
Radhika

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From moin at YAHOO.COM  Sat Aug  2 05:05:01 2003
From: moin at YAHOO.COM (Richard Cauchois)
Date: Sat Aug  2 05:05:01 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] bouffant
Message-ID: <EXCHANGECLwHc9ny7BX000143d4@exchange.worldchangers.org>

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From glenn at thefoundry.co.uk  Mon Aug  4 04:16:03 2003
From: glenn at thefoundry.co.uk (Glenn Collins)
Date: Mon Aug  4 04:16:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Page trails - ERROR
Message-ID: <002501c35a78$e487b460$6b88313e@SNOOPY>

I have just installed moinmoin successfully or so I though.
 
I appear to have one teething problem relating to page trails. When they
are turned on in the users preferences I get a python error. All else
appears to be working beautifully. MoinMoin 1.1
 
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
 
Output as follows...
------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
AttributeError: 'str' object has no attribute 'as_int' Python 2.2.1
/usr/bin/python 
 
A problem occurred while running a Python script. Here is the sequence
of function calls leading up to the error, with the most recent
(innermost) call first. The exception attributes are:
      __doc__ = 'Attribute not found.' 
      __getitem__ = <bound method AttributeError.__getitem__ of
<exceptions.AttributeError instance at 0x8279394>> 
      __init__ = <bound method AttributeError.__init__ of
<exceptions.AttributeError instance at 0x8279394>> 
      __module__ = 'exceptions' 
      __str__ = <bound method AttributeError.__str__ of
<exceptions.AttributeError instance at 0x8279394>> 
      args = ("'str' object has no attribute 'as_int'",)
 
/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/user.py in
addTrail(self=<MoinMoin.user.User instance>, pagename='RecentChanges') 
  357             # append new page, limiting the length
  358             self._trail = filter(lambda p, pn=pagename: p != pn,
self._trail)
  359             self._trail =
self._trail[-([self._MAX_TRAIL.as_int()-1]):]
 
       self = <MoinMoin.user.User instance>, global _trail = undefined,
global _MAX_TRAIL = undefined, global as_int = undefined
  360             self._trail.append(pagename)
  361 
 

/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/Page.py in
send_page(self=<MoinMoin.Page.Page instance>,
request=<MoinMoin.request.Request instance>, msg='',
**keywords={'count_hit': 1}) 
  389                 # page trail?
  390                 if not print_mode and user.current.valid:
  391                    user.current.addTrail(self.page_name)
 
       global user = <module 'MoinMoin.user' from
'/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/user.py'>, global current =
undefined, global addTrail = undefined, self = <MoinMoin.Page.Page
instance>, global page_name = undefined
  392                    trail = user.current.getTrail()
  393                    if trail and user.current.show_page_trail:
 

/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/cgimain.py in
run(properties={}) 
  199         else:
  200             try:
  201                 cgitb.handler()
 
       cgitb = <module 'MoinMoin.support.cgitb' from
'/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/MoinMoin/support/cgitb.pyc'>, handler
= undefined
  202             except:
  203                 cgi.print_exception(*saved_exc)
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From duncan.margetts at cispl.com.au  Mon Aug  4 19:17:04 2003
From: duncan.margetts at cispl.com.au (Duncan Margetts)
Date: Mon Aug  4 19:17:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Page Footer Setup
Message-ID: <6A0E44449D3CFC41A0406E8F04BED9CE372584@cisplex1.cispl.com.au>

Hi,

Having a great time with our MoinMoin Wiki! We love it.. 

But we cant find where the Footer Font is set.. that part of each page that
contains the EditText etc entries..the help references a setting called
"page_footer1" and "page_footer".. do these control it? I cant find files or
entries in any file of that name..

Many thanks in advance.

Regards,

Duncan.
   
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From gdd at gdproducts.net  Tue Aug  5 02:29:05 2003
From: gdd at gdproducts.net (=?GB2312?B?zai08w==?=)
Date: Tue Aug  5 02:29:05 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] =?GB2312?B?us3E+tPRx+nBtL3T?=
Message-ID: <E19jy7Y-0002Aw-00@sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net>

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From freaek at sifnt.net  Tue Aug  5 03:38:05 2003
From: freaek at sifnt.net (Pete Goldsmith)
Date: Tue Aug  5 03:38:05 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Page Footer Setup
In-Reply-To: <6A0E44449D3CFC41A0406E8F04BED9CE372584@cisplex1.cispl.com.au>
Message-ID: <0HJ500JSI6PYPG@mta07ps.email.bigpond.com>

I'd imagine it'd be controlled from the css file.
Can't be certain though, I use moin at work, and work is where I'm not at the moment. :)
-- 
Pete Goldsmith, 05/08/2003


On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 11:45:55 +0930, Duncan Margetts scribbled:
>Hi, ? ?
>
>Having a great time with our MoinMoin Wiki! We love it.. ? ?
>
>But we cant find where the Footer Font is set.. that part of each page that contains the EditText etc entries..the help references a setting called "page_footer1" and "page_footer".. do these control it? I cant find files or entries in any file of that name.. ?
>
>Many thanks in advance. ? ?
>
>Regards, ? ?
>
>Duncan.
>?????





From skip at pobox.com  Tue Aug  5 17:59:03 2003
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Tue Aug  5 17:59:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] getting started with page layout tweaking - need pointers
Message-ID: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org>

(I tried to search the list archives but SF says there aren't any.  If the
list is archived somewhere I'd appreciate a pointer.)

I'm using MoinMoin 1.0.  I've had a couple Wikis running for quite awhile,
but never messed with their appearance.  Now I'm getting messy...  I have a
few questions I've been so far unable to find the answer to:

    1. I'm trying to figure out how to use/set the navi_bar variable.
       According to the HelpOnConfiguration page it's a "large HTML
       fragment".  Usage in the source suggests it's simply a list of
       strings, however.  I'd like to link to pages outside the Wiki from
       the navi_bar.  Can I do that somehow?

    2. (Related to #1) I saw one page on the MoinMoin site which suggested
       it was redirected from another page, but I've yet to find any
       indication of how to do redirects.

    3. (Related to #2) In fact, I've yet to find something that approximates
       a cohesive MoinMoin User Guide.

    4. There's a reference in the MoinMoin docs to the OpenLook blog.  It
       would be nice if moin_config.py settings for some such sites was
       available.  For example, I have yet to figure out how to suppress the
       large headline link which is advertised to do a full-text search for
       that WikiWord.  The OpenLook blog doesn't appear to have it.  Is it
       just HTML/CSS magic (background font, small size) or is there
       variable I can set to suppress it (or has the OpenLook MoinMoin code
       been tweaked)?

Thanks,

-- 
Skip Montanaro
Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/
Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/



From mike at nospam.com  Tue Aug  5 18:25:03 2003
From: mike at nospam.com (Mike Rovner)
Date: Tue Aug  5 18:25:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: getting started with page layout tweaking - need pointers
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <bgplav$pfj$1@main.gmane.org>

Skip Montanaro wrote:
> (I tried to search the list archives but SF says there aren't any.
> If the list is archived somewhere I'd appreciate a pointer.)

http://search.gmane.org in group gmane.comp.web.wiki.moin.general

>     1. I'm trying to figure out how to use/set the navi_bar variable.
>        According to the HelpOnConfiguration page it's a "large HTML
>        fragment".  Usage in the source suggests it's simply a list of
>        strings, however.  I'd like to link to pages outside the Wiki
>        from the navi_bar.  Can I do that somehow?

You can use standard wiki syntax for referencies, for ex.
[http://www.python.org PySite]

>     2. (Related to #1) I saw one page on the MoinMoin site which
>        suggested it was redirected from another page, but I've yet to
>        find any indication of how to do redirects.

use '#REDIRECT pagename' as the page first line
see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/HelpOnProcessingInstructions


Hope that helps,
Mike

PS. I even don't start twiking sources, it in my plans ;)






From skip at pobox.com  Tue Aug  5 18:39:04 2003
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Tue Aug  5 18:39:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: getting started with page layout tweaking - need
        pointers
In-Reply-To: <bgplav$pfj$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <bgplav$pfj$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <16176.23558.628780.302862@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    Mike> http://search.gmane.org in group gmane.comp.web.wiki.moin.general

Thanks for the pointer.

    >> 1. I'm trying to figure out how to use/set the navi_bar variable.

    Mike> You can use standard wiki syntax for referencies, for ex.
    Mike> [http://www.python.org PySite]

Doesn't work for me.  I tried this:

    navi_bar = ["[http://www.mojam.com/ MojamHome]",
                "Musi-CalHome",
                "RecentChanges",
                "TitleIndex",
                "WordIndex",
                "SiteNavigation",
                "HelpContents"]

and the first link was to a page called "[http://www.mojam.com/
MojamHome]", not to "http://www.mojam.com/" with text of "MojamHome".

    >> 2. (Related to #1) I saw one page on the MoinMoin site which
    >> suggested it was redirected from another page, but I've yet to
    >> find any indication of how to do redirects.

    Mike> use '#REDIRECT pagename' as the page first line
    Mike> see http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/moinmoin/HelpOnProcessingInstructions

Thanks, I stumbled upon that, but it seems to only to redirect within the
Wiki.  I may just tweak the redirect code to do a straight redirect instead
of an internal-to-the-Wiki redirect if the pagename starts with '[' and ends
with ']'.

Skip



From mike at nospam.com  Tue Aug  5 19:12:02 2003
From: mike at nospam.com (Mike Rovner)
Date: Tue Aug  5 19:12:02 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Re: getting started with page layout tweaking - need        pointers
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org>        <bgplav$pfj$1@main.gmane.org> <16176.23558.628780.302862@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <bgpo3c$tq3$1@main.gmane.org>

Skip Montanaro wrote:

>     >> 1. I'm trying to figure out how to use/set the navi_bar
> variable.
>
>     Mike> You can use standard wiki syntax for referencies, for ex.
>     Mike> [http://www.python.org PySite]
>
> Doesn't work for me.  I tried this:
>     navi_bar = ["[http://www.mojam.com/ MojamHome]",
>                 "HelpContents"]
> and the first link was to a page called "[http://www.mojam.com/
> MojamHome]", not to "http://www.mojam.com/" with text of "MojamHome".

FWIW using [url name] syntax in user preference works, so you may want to
take a look
at the processing code.

Mike






From skip at pobox.com  Tue Aug  5 19:36:03 2003
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Tue Aug  5 19:36:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Re: getting started with page layout tweaking - need
        pointers
In-Reply-To: <bgpo3c$tq3$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <bgplav$pfj$1@main.gmane.org>
        <16176.23558.628780.302862@montanaro.dyndns.org>
        <bgpo3c$tq3$1@main.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <16176.26957.377082.83314@montanaro.dyndns.org>

    Mike> You can use standard wiki syntax for referencies, for ex.
    Mike> [http://www.python.org PySite]

    >> Doesn't work for me....

    Mike> FWIW using [url name] syntax in user preference works, so you may
    Mike> want to take a look at the processing code.

Thanks.  The change to the #redirect processor was pretty trivial.  Instead
of assuming it's a WikiName, I check the first and last characters to see if
they are '[' and ']', respectively:

    if pi_redirect[:1] =='[' and pi_redirect[-1:] == ']':
        webapi.http_redirect(request, string.strip(pi_redirect[1:-1]))
    else:
        webapi.http_redirect(request, '%s/%s?action=show&redirect=%s' % (
            webapi.getScriptname(),
            wikiutil.quoteWikiname(pi_redirect),
            urllib.quote_plus(self.page_name, ''),))

(The above is in MoinMoin/Page.py, at least in 1.0.)

Since this is the argument to a #redirect and isn't rendered in the common
case, there's no real need for the full [url text] functionality.

Skip




From skip at pobox.com  Tue Aug  5 19:46:07 2003
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Tue Aug  5 19:46:07 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Alternative to disruptive Wiki''''''Name escaping?
Message-ID: <16176.27593.274856.400472@montanaro.dyndns.org>

It seems there are two ways to escape what would otherwise be WikiNames, the
six-quotes rule or the two-backticks rule.  While both serve their intended
purpose, they also serve to disrupt the name to web crawlers which might
want to index the page.  Consider the musician, Ani DiFranco.  Even Google
will have a hard time telling a page is about AniDiFranco if all it sees is
Ani Di``Franco.  Is there some non-disruptive way to escape a WikiName?  If
not, have any proposals been advanced?

Thanks,

-- 
Skip Montanaro
Got gigs? http://www.musi-cal.com/
Got spam? http://spambayes.sf.net/



From skip at pobox.com  Tue Aug  5 20:51:03 2003
From: skip at pobox.com (Skip Montanaro)
Date: Tue Aug  5 20:51:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Alternative to disruptive Wiki''''''Name escaping?
Message-ID: <16176.31478.57463.346505@montanaro.dyndns.org>

In a moment of sheer idiocy I wrote:

    It seems there are two ways to escape what would otherwise be WikiNames,
    the six-quotes rule or the two-backticks rule.  While both serve their
    intended purpose, they also serve to disrupt the name to web crawlers
    which might want to index the page.

Never mind.  Of course, the quotes and backticks don't wind up in the HTML.
Sorry for the disruption.  It's been too long of a day.

doh!-and-<head slap>-ly, y'rs,

Skip



From stett at postmark.net  Thu Aug  7 10:40:14 2003
From: stett at postmark.net (Stuart)
Date: Thu Aug  7 10:40:14 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Diff action error
Message-ID: <1060274038.3f327f76aae99@webmail.cs.iastate.edu>

I have moin running on an IIS server under winxp. When I click on the diff 
button it comes up with an error. If I hit refresh 1 time and then hit the diff 
button again it works fine. Then if I go to another page the same thing happens 
(I have to hit refresh before clicking diff for it to work). Please help! 
Thanks! -Stuart

Here's the error: WindowsError: [Errno 5] Access is denied Python 2.1.2
C:\python\python.exe 

A problem occurred while running a Python script. Here is the sequence of 
function calls leading up to the error, with the most recent (innermost) call 
first. The exception attributes are:
      args = (5, 'Access is denied') 
      errno = 5 
      filename = None 
      strerror = 'Access is denied'

C:\Moin\MoinMoin\wikiutil.py in pagediff(pagename='FrontPage', 
oldpage='FrontPage.1059085317', **kw={'ignorews': 0}) 
  458         "page": page_file,
  459     }
  460     diff = util.popen(cmd, "r")
 
       diff = undefined, global util = <module 'MoinMoin.util' 
from 'C:\Moin\MoinMoin\util\__init__.pyc'>, global popen = undefined, cmd = 
r'diff -u data\backup\FrontPage.1059085317 data\text\FrontPage'
  461     lines = diff.readlines()
  462     rc = diff.close()






From wa7nwp at jnos.org  Tue Aug 12 08:03:04 2003
From: wa7nwp at jnos.org (Bill Vodall)
Date: Tue Aug 12 08:03:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Random Line Macro
In-Reply-To: <bgplav$pfj$1@main.gmane.org>
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20030812075022.009a7880@jnos.org>

I bet some Python guru out there can whip out this MoinMoin macro
without too much trouble.  What I'm looking for is a way to randomly pick
one line from a Wiki page being used as a data file.

Lets say everything between {{{ - }}} is valid data.  A simple fortune file
could be:

FortuneFile
{{{
Make the most of the best, and the least of the worst.
File - don't pile.
Standard is better then better.
He who runs in front of car will be tired.
He who runs behind car will be exhausted.
}}}

Then loading a page with a macro like  [[PickOneLine(FortuneFile)]] would
expand to one of the lines from above.

Thanks...
Bill




From lele at seldati.it  Tue Aug 12 08:33:08 2003
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Tue Aug 12 08:33:08 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Random Line Macro
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20030812075022.009a7880@jnos.org>
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org>
	<4.2.0.58.20030812075022.009a7880@jnos.org>
Message-ID: <16185.2032.556610.786984@paci.nautilus>

There's already a RandomQuote macro that ships with MoinMoin and it
does what you are looking for.

hth,
ciao, lele.
-- 
nickname: Lele Gaifax	| Quando vivr? di quello che ho pensato ieri
real: Emanuele Gaifas	| comincer? ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: lele at seldati.it	|		-- Fortunato Depero, 1929.




From schmid at ice.mpg.de  Fri Aug 15 00:22:25 2003
From: schmid at ice.mpg.de (Karl Schmid)
Date: Fri Aug 15 00:22:25 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Installation problem
Message-ID: <1060931994.1836.3.camel@blossom.local>

Hi,

I moved an existing wiki of mine to another machine and get the
following error in the apache error log (on both machines, moin-1.0 is
installed):

[Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of
/srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi failed
[Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] [client 10.8.11.31] Premature end of
script headers: /srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi

However, when I run moin.cgi directly from the commandline, I get
correct html output.

I assume that some settings are incorrect but do not know which
(permissions are set correctly).

Any help is appreciated.

-- Karl

-- 
Karl Schmid <schmid at ice.mpg.de>
Max-Planck-Institute of Chemical Ecology, Jena, Germany




From gia at webde-ag.de  Fri Aug 15 01:00:26 2003
From: gia at webde-ag.de (Gisbert Amm)
Date: Fri Aug 15 01:00:26 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Installation problem
Message-ID: <74ADFA8C453ED611A71E00508BBBA135D9EFAF@exchange1.cinetic.de>

Probably there was set "Options +ExecCGI" for the directory
/srv/www/moin/karlwiki/ in the httpd.conf of the old server and is not for
the new?

Regards,
Gisbert Amm

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karl Schmid [mailto:schmid at ice.mpg.de]
> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 9:20 AM
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Moin-user] Installation problem
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I moved an existing wiki of mine to another machine and get the
> following error in the apache error log (on both machines, moin-1.0 is
> installed):
> 
> [Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of
> /srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi failed
> [Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] [client 10.8.11.31] 
> Premature end of
> script headers: /srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi
> 
> However, when I run moin.cgi directly from the commandline, I get
> correct html output.
> 
> I assume that some settings are incorrect but do not know which
> (permissions are set correctly).
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> -- Karl
> 
> -- 
> Karl Schmid <schmid at ice.mpg.de>
> Max-Planck-Institute of Chemical Ecology, Jena, Germany
> 
> 
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From robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl  Fri Aug 15 02:19:25 2003
From: robert.groenewegen at tiscali.nl (Robert Groenewegen)
Date: Fri Aug 15 02:19:25 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Installation problem
Message-ID: <726594295.1060937289358.JavaMail.www@inbox01>

Hi,

Is the hashbang (e.g. /usr/python/python) in moin.cgi still correct? This is required for Apache. If you runned from command line with 'python moin.cgi' you won't notice the invalid hashbang.

Bye, Robert



 Hi,
> 
> I moved an existing wiki of mine to another machine and get the
> following error in the apache error log (on both machines, moin-1.0 is
> installed):
> 
> [Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of
> /srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi failed
> [Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] [client 10.8.11.31] Premature end of
> script headers: /srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi
> 
> However, when I run moin.cgi directly from the commandline, I get
> correct html output.
> 
> I assume that some settings are incorrect but do not know which
> (permissions are set correctly).
> 
> Any help is appreciated.
> 
> -- Karl
> 
> -- 
> Karl Schmid <schmid at ice.mpg.de>
> Max-Planck-Institute of Chemical Ecology, Jena, Germany
> 
> 
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From neil at nackle.org  Fri Aug 15 14:51:02 2003
From: neil at nackle.org (Neil Salter)
Date: Fri Aug 15 14:51:02 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Installation problem
In-Reply-To: <1060931994.1836.3.camel@blossom.local>
References: <1060931994.1836.3.camel@blossom.local>
Message-ID: <200308152248.11486.neil@nackle.org>

Also, check the CGI setup on your new installation. Does the new machine use 
suexec to run CGI scripts? Check for a suexec.log file in the httpd logs 
directly, and see whether it tells you why it won't run the CGI script. The 
apache website has a whole section on suexec, so you should be able to work 
out why things aren't working, if this is really the case.

If you do have suexec running with your webserver, the easiest way to check 
whether it's causing the problem is to stop apache, temporarily rename 
suexec, restart apache, and try the script again... though be aware you are 
running less securely while you do this.

Cheers,

Neil.

On Friday 15 August 2003 8:19 am, Karl Schmid wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I moved an existing wiki of mine to another machine and get the
> following error in the apache error log (on both machines, moin-1.0 is
> installed):
>
> [Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] (13)Permission denied: exec of
> /srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi failed
> [Fri Aug 15 09:11:03 2003] [error] [client 10.8.11.31] Premature end of
> script headers: /srv/www/moin/karlwiki/moin.cgi
>
> However, when I run moin.cgi directly from the commandline, I get
> correct html output.
>
> I assume that some settings are incorrect but do not know which
> (permissions are set correctly).
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> -- Karl




From wa7nwp at jnos.org  Sat Aug 16 00:06:04 2003
From: wa7nwp at jnos.org (Bill Vodall WA7NWP)
Date: Sat Aug 16 00:06:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Random Line Macro
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org><4.2.0.58.20030812075022.009a7880@jnos.org> <16185.2032.556610.786984@paci.nautilus>
Message-ID: <001f01c363c2$0397ef80$1800a8c0@vodall.isomedia.com>


> There's already a RandomQuote macro that ships with MoinMoin and it
> does what you are looking for.
> 
> hth,
> ciao, lele.

THANKS! - Just what I was looking for.  Now every time I bring up the
front page I'll get some good vocabulary practice.

Bill




From wa7nwp at jnos.org  Mon Aug 18 14:42:04 2003
From: wa7nwp at jnos.org (Bill Vodall - WA7NWP)
Date: Mon Aug 18 14:42:04 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Next request - images for links...
References: <16176.21164.977577.29947@montanaro.dyndns.org><4.2.0.58.20030812075022.009a7880@jnos.org> <16185.2032.556610.786984@paci.nautilus> <001f01c363c2$0397ef80$1800a8c0@vodall.isomedia.com>
Message-ID: <00c801c365d1$6d79b990$dd01a8c0@Celsionix01>

We can put images on a Wiki page simply by adding the URL:

  http://www.me.com/images/me.jpg

We can create links to a URL with a name:

  [http://www.me.com/images/bigme.jpg Big Picture] of me

How about being able to use an image on the wiki page as a link to a
URL.  Something like:

  [http://www.me.com/images/bigme.jpg  http://www.me.com/images/me.jpg]

Is this possible now?   If not,  would it be hard to add?

I realize it can be done with the HTML macro, but the ease of use of the
Wiki for most other functions has me totally spoiled.

Thanks again,
Bill





From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Aug 19 01:42:06 2003
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Aug 19 01:42:06 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Images as links
In-Reply-To: <E19owwS-000595-00@sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <37A52748-D221-11D7-A392-000502B6C537@actcom.net.il>

Great Idea. I needed this also, and the syntax you suggest is very 
simple.

> Message: 1
> From: "Bill Vodall - WA7NWP" <wa7nwp at jnos.org>
> To: <moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 14:41:04 -0700
> Subject: [Moin-user] Next request - images for links...
>
>
> We can put images on a Wiki page simply by adding the URL:
>
>   http://www.me.com/images/me.jpg
>
> We can create links to a URL with a name:
>
>   [http://www.me.com/images/bigme.jpg Big Picture] of me
>
> How about being able to use an image on the wiki page as a link to a
> URL.  Something like:
>
>   [http://www.me.com/images/bigme.jpg  http://www.me.com/images/me.jpg]
>
> Is this possible now?   If not,  would it be hard to add?
>
> I realize it can be done with the HTML macro, but the ease of use of 
> the
> Wiki for most other functions has me totally spoiled.
>

Nir Soffer
--
MacMac - The Hebrew Mac Wiki
http://mac.plonter.co.il/plonwiki




From nirs at actcom.net.il  Tue Aug 19 03:16:05 2003
From: nirs at actcom.net.il (Nir Soffer)
Date: Tue Aug 19 03:16:05 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Image Links
In-Reply-To: <E19owwS-000595-00@sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net>
Message-ID: <529B24AA-D22E-11D7-A392-000502B6C537@actcom.net.il>

Of course Image links works *now* in 1.1 using syntax like [url 
image-url]...

But what I really miss is using pagename as urls, and attachment for 
images like: [FindPage attachment:google.png]

Syntax:

[url text]		text link
[url image]	image link
[url image text]	image and text link

Options:
    url		http:/mailto:/ftp: or a pagename
    image		image url or attachment:imagename

Where image and text link automaticaly displayed like a picture with 
caption - the text is below the image.


Nir Soffer
--
MacMac - The Hebrew Mac Wiki
http://mac.plonter.co.il/plonwiki




From heeya at koreaweeks.com  Thu Aug 21 16:12:12 2003
From: heeya at koreaweeks.com (heeya at koreaweeks.com)
Date: Thu Aug 21 16:12:12 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] =?euc-kr?B?o6ixpLDto6m1pcDMxq4sILnMxsMgLSC4uLOywMcgsaTA5SDD38O1?=
Message-ID: <NS4hEqm8DzkUeaa9YS7000098ca@ns4.solife.net>

?????? 

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<http://www.lovesurf.co.kr/default.asp?s=431231&email=moin-user at lists.so
urceforge.net>  	

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urceforge.net> * ? ????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??[???], [???], [???],
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From uriana at trxmail.com  Sun Aug 24 04:31:07 2003
From: uriana at trxmail.com (uriana at trxmail.com)
Date: Sun Aug 24 04:31:07 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] =?euc-kr?B?o6ixpLDto6m1pcDMxq4sILnMxsMgLSC4uLOywMcgsaTA5Q==?=
Message-ID: <LOVElRN8aK38o2omjpD00002a60@www.myfar.co.kr>

.. ?????? 

[click to see ]
<http://www.lovesurf.co.kr/default.asp?s=1403901&email=moin-user at lists.s
ourceforge.net>  	

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ourceforge.net> * ? ????? ????? ??? ???? ???? ??[???], [???], [???],
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From mr at uue.org  Sun Aug 24 09:48:03 2003
From: mr at uue.org (Michael Reinsch)
Date: Sun Aug 24 09:48:03 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] RPM packages
Message-ID: <20030824184726.3c456f97.mr@uue.org>

Hi!

I've created some RPM packages for MoinMoin, which make installation of
a single wiki very easy: you only have to install the RPMs and have a
running MoinMoin.

The packages are designed for Mandrake (9.2), but they can be used under
RedHat 8.0 as well with a small change (there is no apache2, it is
called httpd, so one has to change that dependency from apache2 to httpd
for the package moin-apache2).

The packages are available from
http://w3studi.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/~reinscml/files/.

Source RPM:
 - moin-1.1-0.cvs20030824.2mr.src.rpm

Binary RPMs:
 - moin-1.1-0.cvs20030824.2mr.noarch.rpm
 - moin-apache2-1.1-0.cvs20030824.2mr.noarch.rpm

Have fun.

-- 
  Michael Reinsch <mr at uue.org>                       http://mr.uue.org
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From frank.renaers at ikan.be  Tue Aug 26 07:27:02 2003
From: frank.renaers at ikan.be (frank.renaers at ikan.be)
Date: Tue Aug 26 07:27:02 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] CVS log command without a workdirectory ?
Message-ID: <C450D96664CBD31182B600A0C97668B184A108@CASE052>

Hi,

Is it possible to execute a 'cvs log' command when a workdirectory doesn't
yet exist ?
I am using the following command :
"E:\WinCvs 1.3\cvs" -d :ntserver:ikan102:/cvsrepo log -d">2003-08-25
10:05:23 GMT" -b myproject 

It's works when the command is executed from the current workdirectory.
But it fails when it's executed from another the directory.
Why does cvs need the workdirectory to execute the 'log' command.

Greetings,

Frank Renaers





From lele at seldati.it  Tue Aug 26 08:33:07 2003
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Tue Aug 26 08:33:07 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] CVS log command without a workdirectory ?
In-Reply-To: <C450D96664CBD31182B600A0C97668B184A108@CASE052>
References: <C450D96664CBD31182B600A0C97668B184A108@CASE052>
Message-ID: <16203.32211.815814.666609@paci.nautilus>

>>>>> frank renaers l'ha dit:

    frank> Why does cvs need the workdirectory
    frank> to execute the 'log' command.

Because it has a 'rlog' command to do that. They perform a slightly
different job, although the result may be the same...

ciao, lele.
-- 
nickname: Lele Gaifax	| Quando vivr? di quello che ho pensato ieri
real: Emanuele Gaifas	| comincer? ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: lele at seldati.it	|		-- Fortunato Depero, 1929.




From jens.spille at thomson.net  Tue Aug 26 08:53:06 2003
From: jens.spille at thomson.net (Spille Jens)
Date: Tue Aug 26 08:53:06 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Win98-OK but Win2k No Success
Message-ID: <2CEEE9E85750D2119F4000805F31728801297D8E@HANEXCH1>

Dear Experts,
 
First I implemented MoinMoin on Win98 with success. :-) Great tool!
 
Then I tried to repeat the same installation on Windows2000 using the same
tools:
 * Apache/2.0.47 (Win32)
 * Python 2.2.3 plus win32all-152
 * Moin-1.0.zip installed on "d:/moin"
and Apache tells my by using "http:/localhost/mywiki" ==> "Internal Server
Error". 
The Apache Error Log shows: "[Mon Aug 25 16:58:37 2003] [error] [client
127.0.0.1] Premature end of script headers: moin.bat".
 
The Apache itself is running, "http:/localhost" returns with the default
Apache Page and the Environment is set to:
"PYTHONPATH=D:\moin\Lib\site-packages". 
 
If I directly start the "D:\moin\mywiki\moin.bat" file I receive the correct
HTML-FrontPage, but if I start the batch file with "set QUERY_STRING=test"
then I receive the following:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Content-Type: text/plain
 
    MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
    ======================
    
    Package "MoinMoin" successfully imported.
    
    Release  1.0
    Revision 1.159
    
    Traceback (innermost last):
      File "moin.cgi", line 22, in ?
        cgimain.test()
       File "D:\moin\Lib\site-packages\MoinMoin\cgimain.py", line 43, in
test
        local_request = socket.getfqdn(os.environ.get('SERVER_NAME')) == \
       File "D:\Programs\Python22\lib\socket.py", line 100, in getfqdn
        name = name.strip()
     AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'strip'
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Does anybody knows what's wrong with my installation? How can I further
debug the problem?
 
Thank you very much in advanced
Jens
 
PS: My init files:
D:\moin\mywiki\moin.bat
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
@echo off
set PYTHONPATH=D:\moin\Lib\site-packages
rem set QUERY_STRING=test
d:
cd \moin\mywiki
D:\programs\Python22\python.exe moin.cgi

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
D:\Program Files\Apache Group\Apache2\conf\httpd.conf extension:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SetEnv PYTHONPATH "D:/moin/Lib/site-packages"
Alias /wiki/ "D:/moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
ScriptAlias /mywiki "D:/moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
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From crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 26 09:53:38 2003
From: crosseyedpenguin at yahoo.com (Roger Haase)
Date: Tue Aug 26 09:53:38 2003
Subject: [Moin-user] Win98-OK but Win2k No Success
In-Reply-To: <2CEEE9E85750D2119F4000805F31728801297D8E@HANEXCH1>
Message-ID: <20030826165253.62382.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com>

--- Spille Jens <jens.spille at thomson.net> wrote:
> Dear Experts,
>  
> First I implemented MoinMoin on Win98 with success. :-) Great tool!
>  
> Then I tried to repeat the same installation on Windows2000 using the
> same
> tools:
>  * Apache/2.0.47 (Win32)
>  * Python 2.2.3 plus win32all-152
>  * Moin-1.0.zip installed on "d:/moin"
> and Apache tells my by using "http:/localhost/mywiki" ==> "Internal
> Server
> Error". 
> The Apache Error Log shows: "[Mon Aug 25 16:58:37 2003] [error]
> [client
> 127.0.0.1] Premature end of script headers: moin.bat".
>  
> The Apache itself is running, "http:/localhost" returns with the
> default
> Apache Page and the Environment is set to:
> "PYTHONPATH=D:\moin\Lib\site-packages". 
> 

The symptoms you describe are the same as some other Windows users have
had. I think the core problem is Apache is not passing on the
environment variables being set in the moin.bat script. I do not know
why this sometimes happens or what causes it.

The instructions for installing under Windows have been rewritten for
the upcoming 1.1 release.  You could try the instructions here, but it
involves a complete reinstallation:

http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/master/moin.cgi/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnWin32

If you opt for a reinstallation, since you have a new installation and
no dependent users, you may want to try the "Stable CVS tarball" (at
your own risk) since it has several additional features.

If you want to salvage your present installation with minimal effort, I
think you can edit the moin.cgi script, uncomment the:

import sys
sys.path.append('...')

statements, and replace the path within the latter statement above with
the one you set in the moin.bat script.

Roger Haase


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