From kraulin at msn.com  Tue May  7 09:13:02 2002
From: kraulin at msn.com (Kraulin .)
Date: Tue May  7 09:13:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] First time apache configurator...
Message-ID: <F39mBgW3saFcBiDGMol00016eb3@hotmail.com>

Hello,

  To preface, I have MoinMoin outputing the proper output from the
C:\Moin\BBWiki\python moin.cgi
command.

  I also have Apache 2.0.35 serving pages properly.

What I'm having a deal of difficulty doing is linking the two together.
when I have the batch file set up the way the install wiki page says, Apache 
serves up the text of the batch file.

>rem @echo off rem set PYTHONPATH=C:\Moin;C:\Python22\
>C: cd \Moin\BBWiki python.exe moin.cgi

When I remove the "rem" from in front of the echo off, I get this...

>Server error!
>Error message: Premature end of script headers: C:/Moin/BBWiki/BBWiki.bat 
>If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster Error 500

>ezri
>05/07/02 12:09:47 Apache/2.0.35 (Win32)

Any advice would be appreciated...



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From jh at web.de  Tue May  7 09:52:03 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue May  7 09:52:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] First time apache configurator...
In-Reply-To: <F39mBgW3saFcBiDGMol00016eb3@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <E1758BU-00016L-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 07 May 2002 12:12:02 -0400, Kraulin . wrote:

>Any advice would be appreciated...

telnet to port 80 and see what's emitted by your setup. Or do a "wget -
S".

Ciao, J?rgen





From kraulin at msn.com  Tue May  7 10:37:05 2002
From: kraulin at msn.com (Kraulin .)
Date: Tue May  7 10:37:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] First time apache configurator...
Message-ID: <F37j3KnOdFicTzCKizm00002514@hotmail.com>

Are there any paramaters that need to change in moin_config.py for the name 
changes that I have made?

-=Bryan


>From: "Kraulin ." <kraulin at msn.com>
>To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>Subject: [Moin-user] First time apache configurator...
>Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 12:12:02 -0400
>
>Hello,
>
>  To preface, I have MoinMoin outputing the proper output from the
>C:\Moin\BBWiki\python moin.cgi
>command.
>
>  I also have Apache 2.0.35 serving pages properly.
>
>What I'm having a deal of difficulty doing is linking the two together.
>when I have the batch file set up the way the install wiki page says, 
>Apache
>serves up the text of the batch file.
>
>>rem @echo off rem set PYTHONPATH=C:\Moin;C:\Python22\
>>C: cd \Moin\BBWiki python.exe moin.cgi
>
>When I remove the "rem" from in front of the echo off, I get this...
>
>>Server error!
>>Error message: Premature end of script headers: C:/Moin/BBWiki/BBWiki.bat
>>If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster Error 
>>500
>
>>ezri
>>05/07/02 12:09:47 Apache/2.0.35 (Win32)
>
>Any advice would be appreciated...
>
>
>
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From jh at web.de  Tue May  7 12:24:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue May  7 12:24:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] First time apache configurator...
In-Reply-To: <F37j3KnOdFicTzCKizm00002514@hotmail.com>
Message-ID: <E175AYb-00022q-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 07 May 2002 13:36:43 -0400, Kraulin . wrote:

>Are there any paramaters that need to change in moin_config.py for the name 
>changes that I have made?

If you change things and they don't work, it's a good idea to start over w/o 
changing things.


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Thu May  9 11:09:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu May  9 11:09:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Dropping 1.5.2 support
Message-ID: <E175sKn-0005IQ-00@smtp.web.de>

Hi!

I just this minute decided I'm tired of dancing the avoid-any-2.0-
construct dance, i.e. I will make a 1.0 release right now, which will 
be the last 1.5.2 compatible one.

If severe bugs occur, 1.0 will be branched and fixed. Lesser bugs will 
be accumulated and fixed in a maintenance release.

To avoid any confusion, the "stats" subpackage and much of the XML code 
is already 2.0-only, i.e. 1.5.2 problems there are not considered a bug 
that'll be fixed.


Ciao, J?rgen





From pedroni at inf.ethz.ch  Fri May 10 09:40:02 2002
From: pedroni at inf.ethz.ch (Samuele Pedroni)
Date: Fri May 10 09:40:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] <p> placement and nesting problem
Message-ID: <014101c1f840$4e5b82a0$6d94fea9@newmexico>

Hi,

I have just installed MoinMoin 0.11,
it seems that both the html and xml formatter
emit <p> at odd places

== h2 ==
para

HTML:

<p><a name=a><H1>1 h2</H1>

para

XML:

<p><anchor name="head-bf1c365741a4bfb5fee5c3150335ab4f867a4d9a"/><s2
title="h2">

para </p></s2></s1>

Even putting a blank line beetween the heading and "para" does not solve the
xml
nesting problem and there is still a spurious <p> in front of <h2> in html.

The problem is in the logic that calls formatter.paragraph in the parser,
namely when parser._check_p is called ...

I need this to work better. What should I do?

I'm likely able to hack my local version. Should I produce a patch
for general use. What is the expected development wrt
 this kind of issues, timeline?

Thanks, Samuele Pedroni.









From j.her at t-online.de  Fri May 10 11:04:02 2002
From: j.her at t-online.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri May 10 11:04:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] <p> placement and nesting problem
In-Reply-To: <014101c1f840$4e5b82a0$6d94fea9@newmexico>
Message-ID: <176DlX-1LHLKiC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com>

On Fri, 10 May 2002 18:32:41 +0200, Samuele Pedroni wrote:

>I need this to work better. What should I do?

Wait. :)

>I'm likely able to hack my local version. Should I produce a patch
>for general use. What is the expected development wrt
> this kind of issues, timeline?

Believe me, I chased the requirement for well-formedness for quite some
time. The problem is, if you fix it at one place, another thing breaks
down, so I gave up for now.

The only _stable_ solution is a rewrite of the inner workings of
parsing, formatting etc. No timeline, except "probably this year".

Ciao, J?rgen





From pedroni at inf.ethz.ch  Fri May 10 11:32:02 2002
From: pedroni at inf.ethz.ch (Samuele Pedroni)
Date: Fri May 10 11:32:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] <p> placement and nesting problem
References: <176DlX-1LHLKiC@fwd09.sul.t-online.com>
Message-ID: <015f01c1f84f$dc2372a0$6d94fea9@newmexico>

From: Juergen Hermann <j.her at t-online.de>
> On Fri, 10 May 2002 18:32:41 +0200, Samuele Pedroni wrote:
> 
> >I need this to work better. What should I do?
> 
> Wait. :)

ok, I will try the local hack route.
 
> >I'm likely able to hack my local version. Should I produce a patch
> >for general use. What is the expected development wrt
> > this kind of issues, timeline?
> 
> Believe me, I chased the requirement for well-formedness for quite some
> time. The problem is, if you fix it at one place, another thing breaks
> down, so I gave up for now.

I believe you, so wish me luck ;).

> The only _stable_ solution is a rewrite of the inner workings of
> parsing, formatting etc. No timeline, except "probably this year".
> 

do you have a design sketch of the new architecture,
how will the parser drive the formatter, an intermadiate xml format
or some other interaction?
do you plan to bring ReST on board?
use Docutils Generic DTD as intermediate format?

regards.






From wa7nwp at yahoo.com  Tue May 14 11:39:07 2002
From: wa7nwp at yahoo.com (Bill Vodall - WA7NWP)
Date: Tue May 14 11:39:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] User Security - sometimes
In-Reply-To: <E16v2dI-00010P-00@smtp.web.de>
References: <1018333467.12104.11.camel@heyzeus>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020514113056.00a38190@pioneernet.net>

>
>HelpOnConfiguration/SecurityPolicy

I'm not (yet) comfortable making changes with Python.  How would
I modify:

    self.edit = self.edit and user.valid

to something like:

   self.edit = self.edit and user.valid or (first letter of wikipage is Upper case)


I want to open up editing so anybody can edit wiki pages with whose first
letter is upper case.  Pages with a lower case first letter would be restricted
to editing only by validated users.

Thanks,
Bill



From adam at personaltelco.net  Tue May 14 13:57:07 2002
From: adam at personaltelco.net (Adam Shand)
Date: Tue May 14 13:57:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] User Security - sometimes
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020514113056.00a38190@pioneernet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205141352210.16123-100000@maus.spack.org>

> to something like:
>
>    self.edit = self.edit and user.valid or (first letter of wikipage is Upper case)

I can't help with this (though I'm interested in the answer as well).

> I want to open up editing so anybody can edit wiki pages with whose
> first letter is upper case.  Pages with a lower case first letter would
> be restricted to editing only by validated users.

However you can do this with apache in a sort of ghetto manner.  This is
how I restricted read privledges to pages which match the pattern
Node*Details:

  <LocationMatch "Node[0-9]+Details">
    AuthType Basic
    AuthName "Restricted To The Special Ops Team"
    AuthUserFile /etc/apache/htpasswd
    AuthGroupFile /etc/apache/htgroup
    <limit GET POST PUT DELETE>
      require group ops
    </limit>
  </LocationMatch>

If you remove GET from the limit list, you should get read but not write
restrictions.

Adam.




From wa7nwp at yahoo.com  Tue May 14 14:08:02 2002
From: wa7nwp at yahoo.com (Bill Vodall - WA7NWP)
Date: Tue May 14 14:08:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] User Security - sometimes
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205141352210.16123-100000@maus.spack.org>
References: <4.2.0.58.20020514113056.00a38190@pioneernet.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020514140345.00a67750@pioneernet.net>

Thanks Adam,  That example might be an even better solution to some of
my configuration challenges.   I need special limited access on a small number
of Wiki pages and it looks like that's the way to do it.

Bill

>However you can do this with apache in a sort of ghetto manner.  This is
>how I restricted read privledges to pages which match the pattern
>Node*Details:
>
>   <LocationMatch "Node[0-9]+Details">
>     AuthType Basic
>     AuthName "Restricted To The Special Ops Team"
>     AuthUserFile /etc/apache/htpasswd
>     AuthGroupFile /etc/apache/htgroup
>     <limit GET POST PUT DELETE>
>       require group ops
>     </limit>
>   </LocationMatch>
>
>If you remove GET from the limit list, you should get read but not write
>restrictions.
>
>Adam.





From adam at personaltelco.net  Tue May 14 17:41:03 2002
From: adam at personaltelco.net (Adam Shand)
Date: Tue May 14 17:41:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] User Security - sometimes
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020514140345.00a67750@pioneernet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205141412270.27913-100000@maus.spack.org>

> Thanks Adam, That example might be an even better solution to some of my
> configuration challenges.  I need special limited access on a small
> number of Wiki pages and it looks like that's the way to do it.

the one possible gotcha that i haven't investigated yet (maybe jurgen can
shed some light for sure) is that i bet that there is a get parameter for
the page name which will bypass apache's ability to limit access (apache's
ability to restrict access based on the url doesn't include any get
parameters unfortunately).

so if something like this works:

 http://domian.net/moin.cgi?page=FrontPage

then we're both screwed :-)

adam.




From jh at web.de  Tue May 14 23:13:03 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue May 14 23:13:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] User Security - sometimes
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205141412270.27913-100000@maus.spack.org>
Message-ID: <E177s1h-0002je-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 14 May 2002 17:40:29 -0700 (PDT), Adam Shand wrote:

>so if something like this works:
>
> http://domian.net/moin.cgi?page=FrontPage
>
>then we're both screwed :-)

It doesn't, but that does not mean 100% security, e.g. a user can subscribe 
to hidden pages, be it willingly or not, and there's the XMLRPC interface.

Edit restrictions should be tight though, unless someone uses GET to save a 
page (which 1.1 will forbid).


Ciao, J?rgen





From treverh at attbi.com  Wed May 15 20:02:03 2002
From: treverh at attbi.com (Treverh)
Date: Wed May 15 20:02:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Distance of signal
Message-ID: <000001c1fc85$f8701730$6401a8c0@C351473AB>

Hello, i was wondering if anyone can give me any ideas on wireless
signals inside a high rise office building ?
I can get only about 70 feet from a normal access point!
HELP!!!!
 
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From jh at web.de  Thu May 16 10:22:03 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Thu May 16 10:22:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Distance of signal
In-Reply-To: <000001c1fc85$f8701730$6401a8c0@C351473AB>
Message-ID: <E178OwO-0000PC-00@smtp.web.de>

Hi!

This list is not about any of the wireless communications wikis, but 
the wiki software they use.

--Original Message Text---
From: Treverh
Date: Wed, 15 May 2002 21:01:26 -0600

Message Hello, i was wondering if anyone can give me any ideas on 
wireless signals inside a high rise office building ?
I can get only about 70 feet from a normal access point!
HELP!!!!
 



Ciao, J?rgen





From sosman at users.sourceforge.net  Tue May 21 05:40:02 2002
From: sosman at users.sourceforge.net (Paul Sorenson)
Date: Tue May 21 05:40:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] problem with err_log
Message-ID: <014301c200c4$79630e00$c48b0fcb@home.classware.com.au>

I just tried to fire up moin 1.0 for the first time on a RedHat linux 7.2
machine and httpd/err_log reports:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/moin/cgi-bin/moin.cgi", line 32, in ?
    cgimain.run()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MoinMoin/cgimain.py", line 103, in
run
    sys.stderr = open(os.path.join(config.data_dir, 'err_log'), 'at')
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data/err_log'

The setup was as per the example except the moin install path is
/usr/share/moin, not /usr/local/share/moin.  I believe I have the
permissions and ownership set ok.

When apache starts it reports
[Tue May 21 22:21:24 2002] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix)  (Red-Hat/Linux)
mod_python/2.7.8 Python/1.5.2 mod_ssl/2.8.5 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.2
PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.26 mod_throttle/3.1.2 configured -- resuming normal
operations

I don't know how apache is configured to use Python 1.5.2 - I set the #! to
python 2.1 explicitly in moin.cgi.

Regards




From lele at seldati.it  Tue May 21 06:05:03 2002
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Tue May 21 06:05:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] problem with err_log
In-Reply-To: <014301c200c4$79630e00$c48b0fcb@home.classware.com.au>
References: <014301c200c4$79630e00$c48b0fcb@home.classware.com.au>
Message-ID: <15594.17885.718714.62560@paci.nautilus>

>>>>> On Tue, 21 May 2002 22:38:56 +1000, "Paul Sorenson" <sosman at users.sourceforge.net> said:

    PS> The setup was as per the example except the moin install path
    PS> is /usr/share/moin, not /usr/local/share/moin.  I believe I
    PS> have the permissions and ownership set ok.

What is the content of config.data_dir? That is the root dir of
everything compete with a single wiki site (ie the pages, users,
history and so on). The MoinMoin engine is shared among all sites, and
should reside in /usr/lib/pythonX.Y/site-packages/MoinMoin.

The data_dir must be owned or at least writable by the apache UID.

ciao, lele.
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From pobrien at orbtech.com  Tue May 21 06:21:02 2002
From: pobrien at orbtech.com (Patrick K. O'Brien)
Date: Tue May 21 06:21:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] problem with err_log
In-Reply-To: <014301c200c4$79630e00$c48b0fcb@home.classware.com.au>
Message-ID: <NBBBIOJPGKJEKIECEMCBAEDLNBAA.pobrien@orbtech.com>

Moin can't find your data directory. Try running the diagnostics. Instead of
just running moin.cgi, add ?test to the end of the url, like this:

www.example.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi?test

You'll get back a web page in your browser similar to this, which shows you
the directories Moin expects to be able to find:

MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
======================

Package "MoinMoin" sucessfully imported.

Release  1.1
Revision 1.160

Checking directories...
    data directory tests OK (set to '/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data')
    text directory tests OK (set to '/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data/text')
    user directory tests OK (set to '/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data/user')
    backup directory tests OK (set to
'/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data/backup')

Found an external diff: "diff - GNU diffutils version 2.7"

Server Environment:
    ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST!

---
Patrick K. O'Brien
Orbtech

> -----Original Message-----
> From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:39 AM
> To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Moin-user] problem with err_log
>
>
> I just tried to fire up moin 1.0 for the first time on a RedHat linux 7.2
> machine and httpd/err_log reports:
>
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/share/moin/cgi-bin/moin.cgi", line 32, in ?
>     cgimain.run()
>   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MoinMoin/cgimain.py",
> line 103, in
> run
>     sys.stderr = open(os.path.join(config.data_dir, 'err_log'), 'at')
> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data/err_log'
>
> The setup was as per the example except the moin install path is
> /usr/share/moin, not /usr/local/share/moin.  I believe I have the
> permissions and ownership set ok.
>
> When apache starts it reports
> [Tue May 21 22:21:24 2002] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix)  (Red-Hat/Linux)
> mod_python/2.7.8 Python/1.5.2 mod_ssl/2.8.5 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.2
> PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.26 mod_throttle/3.1.2 configured -- resuming normal
> operations
>
> I don't know how apache is configured to use Python 1.5.2 - I set
> the #! to
> python 2.1 explicitly in moin.cgi.
>
> Regards




From josephwinston at mac.com  Tue May 21 09:04:03 2002
From: josephwinston at mac.com (Jody Winston)
Date: Tue May 21 09:04:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Win32, Apache 2 and moin installation problem
Message-ID:  <20020521160354.7966.26316.tmda@adsl-216-62-149-210.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net>

Here's what I added to httpd.conf:

Alias /wiki/ "V:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/" 
ScriptAlias /mywiki "V:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"

When I follow the instructions on InstallDocs for Win32 and Apache, I
get the following error message:

[Tue May 21 11:00:14 2002] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] script not found
or unable to stat: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/mywiki

It seems that Apache is trying to use my DocumentRoot instead of my
ScriptAlias.

What am I doing wrong?




From adam at personaltelco.net  Tue May 21 09:27:02 2002
From: adam at personaltelco.net (Adam Shand)
Date: Tue May 21 09:27:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Win32, Apache 2 and moin installation problem
In-Reply-To: <20020521160354.7966.26316.tmda@adsl-216-62-149-210.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205210923020.16346-100000@maus.spack.org>

a scriptalias has to point to a directory not a file.  it's also important
(at least under unix configs) that if one path ends with a / that the
other one does as well.  Try this instead:

ScriptAlias /mywiki	"V:/Moin/mywiki/"

and then access:

http://domain.com/mywiki/moin.bat


if that doesn't work then it's either a windows specific error, the path
V:/Moin/share/mywiki doesn't exist.

maybe try running "apachectl configtest" (if that exists in windows) and
see if it reports any errors.

adam.

On Tue, 21 May 2002, Jody Winston wrote:

> Here's what I added to httpd.conf:
>
> Alias /wiki/ "V:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
> ScriptAlias /mywiki "V:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
>
> When I follow the instructions on InstallDocs for Win32 and Apache, I
> get the following error message:
>
> [Tue May 21 11:00:14 2002] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] script not found
> or unable to stat: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/mywiki
>
> It seems that Apache is trying to use my DocumentRoot instead of my
> ScriptAlias.
>
> What am I doing wrong?
>
>
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From jh at web.de  Tue May 21 14:33:03 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue May 21 14:33:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Win32, Apache 2 and moin installation problem
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205210923020.16346-100000@maus.spack.org>
Message-ID: <E17AHEO-0001aS-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 21 May 2002 09:26:33 -0700 (PDT), Adam Shand wrote:
>a scriptalias has to point to a directory not a file.  

Not true. My UNIX httpd.conf ends with ...

Alias /wiki/ "/usr/local/share/moin/htdocs/"
ScriptAlias /mywiki "/usr/local/share/moin/mywiki/moin.cgi"

>> Alias /wiki/ "V:/Moin/share/moin/htdocs/"
>> ScriptAlias /mywiki "V:/Moin/mywiki/moin.bat"
>>
>> When I follow the instructions on InstallDocs for Win32 and Apache, I
>> get the following error message:
>>
>> [Tue May 21 11:00:14 2002] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] script not found
>> or unable to stat: C:/Program Files/Apache Group/Apache2/htdocs/mywiki
>>
>> It seems that Apache is trying to use my DocumentRoot instead of my
>> ScriptAlias.
>>
>> What am I doing wrong?

Hmmm, you DID restart your server?!


Ciao, J?rgen





From adam at personaltelco.net  Tue May 21 14:36:03 2002
From: adam at personaltelco.net (Adam Shand)
Date: Tue May 21 14:36:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Win32, Apache 2 and moin installation problem
In-Reply-To: <E17AHEO-0001aS-00@smtp.web.de>
References: <E17AHEO-0001aS-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <1022016953.13329.118.camel@isashand>

On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 14:32, Juergen Hermann wrote:
> On Tue, 21 May 2002 09:26:33 -0700 (PDT), Adam Shand wrote:
> >a scriptalias has to point to a directory not a file.  
> 
> Not true. My UNIX httpd.conf ends with ...
> 
> Alias /wiki/ "/usr/local/share/moin/htdocs/"
> ScriptAlias /mywiki "/usr/local/share/moin/mywiki/moin.cgi"

Oooh ... cool.  Learn something every day.  Thanks for the info and
sorry for providing bad info.

Adam.




From sosman at users.sourceforge.net  Tue May 21 17:09:07 2002
From: sosman at users.sourceforge.net (Paul Sorenson)
Date: Tue May 21 17:09:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] problem with err_log
References: <NBBBIOJPGKJEKIECEMCBAEDLNBAA.pobrien@orbtech.com>
Message-ID: <002a01c20124$d7f9d4c0$c48b0fcb@home.classware.com.au>

Thanks - it seems that my installation is using relative references, but I
don't know where it is relative to so after looking at the paths in
httpd.conf and the config file in mywiki it is now working.

Thanks again

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick K. O'Brien" <pobrien at orbtech.com>
To: "Paul Sorenson" <sosman at users.sourceforge.net>;
<moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:25 PM
Subject: RE: [Moin-user] problem with err_log


> Moin can't find your data directory. Try running the diagnostics. Instead
of
> just running moin.cgi, add ?test to the end of the url, like this:
>
> www.example.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi?test
>
> You'll get back a web page in your browser similar to this, which shows
you
> the directories Moin expects to be able to find:
>
> MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
> ======================
>
> Package "MoinMoin" sucessfully imported.
>
> Release  1.1
> Revision 1.160
>
> Checking directories...
>     data directory tests OK (set to '/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data')
>     text directory tests OK (set to
'/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data/text')
>     user directory tests OK (set to
'/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data/user')
>     backup directory tests OK (set to
> '/home/pobrien/moin/orbtech/data/backup')
>
> Found an external diff: "diff - GNU diffutils version 2.7"
>
> Server Environment:
>     ONLY AVAILABLE FOR LOCAL REQUESTS ON THIS HOST!
>
> ---
> Patrick K. O'Brien
> Orbtech
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
> > [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Paul Sorenson
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 7:39 AM
> > To: moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> > Subject: [Moin-user] problem with err_log
> >
> >
> > I just tried to fire up moin 1.0 for the first time on a RedHat linux
7.2
> > machine and httpd/err_log reports:
> >
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >   File "/usr/share/moin/cgi-bin/moin.cgi", line 32, in ?
> >     cgimain.run()
> >   File "/usr/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MoinMoin/cgimain.py",
> > line 103, in
> > run
> >     sys.stderr = open(os.path.join(config.data_dir, 'err_log'), 'at')
> > IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data/err_log'
> >
> > The setup was as per the example except the moin install path is
> > /usr/share/moin, not /usr/local/share/moin.  I believe I have the
> > permissions and ownership set ok.
> >
> > When apache starts it reports
> > [Tue May 21 22:21:24 2002] [notice] Apache/1.3.22 (Unix)
(Red-Hat/Linux)
> > mod_python/2.7.8 Python/1.5.2 mod_ssl/2.8.5 OpenSSL/0.9.6b DAV/1.0.2
> > PHP/4.0.6 mod_perl/1.26 mod_throttle/3.1.2 configured -- resuming normal
> > operations
> >
> > I don't know how apache is configured to use Python 1.5.2 - I set
> > the #! to
> > python 2.1 explicitly in moin.cgi.
> >
> > Regards
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________
>
> Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
> August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>




From pobrien at orbtech.com  Wed May 22 05:57:07 2002
From: pobrien at orbtech.com (Patrick K. O'Brien)
Date: Wed May 22 05:57:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Munging the URL?
Message-ID: <NBBBIOJPGKJEKIECEMCBMEGCNBAA.pobrien@orbtech.com>

I'd like to hide the /cgi-bin/moin.cgi in the addresses used by MoinMoin. I
can do that pretty easily with Quixote, another CGI application. I haven't
figured out how to do it with MoinMoin yet. Any clues would be greatly
appreciated.

What I'd like to end up with are urls that look like:

http://orbtech.com/wiki/RecentChanges

Which would then get picked up by my .htaccess:

RewriteEngine on
RewriteBase /
RewriteRule ^wiki/(.*) cgi-bin/moin.cgi/$1 [last]

Right now it only works to get me into the FrontPage when I use this
address:

http://orbtech.com/wiki/

But subsequent links inside MoinMoin look like this:

http://orbtech.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/RecentChanges

When I really want them to look like:

http://orbtech.com/wiki/RecentChanges

Tips, pointers and clues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

---
Patrick K. O'Brien
Orbtech




From j.her at t-online.de  Wed May 22 10:40:07 2002
From: j.her at t-online.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed May 22 10:40:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Munging the URL?
In-Reply-To: <NBBBIOJPGKJEKIECEMCBMEGCNBAA.pobrien@orbtech.com>
Message-ID: <17AZq8-0pcnHUC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com>

On Wed, 22 May 2002 08:01:34 -0500, Patrick K. O'Brien wrote:

>What I'd like to end up with are urls that look like:
>
>http://orbtech.com/wiki/RecentChanges

Follow the install docs and use a ScriptAlias. This is the canonical
way and it works. For anything else consult the Apache manual.

Ciao, J?rgen





From pobrien at orbtech.com  Wed May 22 10:44:05 2002
From: pobrien at orbtech.com (Patrick K. O'Brien)
Date: Wed May 22 10:44:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Munging the URL?
In-Reply-To: <17AZq8-0pcnHUC@fwd05.sul.t-online.com>
Message-ID: <NBBBIOJPGKJEKIECEMCBGEHCNBAA.pobrien@orbtech.com>

This is a hosted account and all I have available to me is .htaccess. So I
can use rewrite rules, but ScriptAlias is not allowed in .htaccess, to the
best of my knowledge.

---
Patrick K. O'Brien
Orbtech

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Juergen Hermann [mailto:j.her at t-online.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 12:25 PM
> To: Moin-User; pobrien at orbtech.com
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Munging the URL?
>
>
> On Wed, 22 May 2002 08:01:34 -0500, Patrick K. O'Brien wrote:
>
> >What I'd like to end up with are urls that look like:
> >
> >http://orbtech.com/wiki/RecentChanges
>
> Follow the install docs and use a ScriptAlias. This is the canonical
> way and it works. For anything else consult the Apache manual.
>
> Ciao, J?rgen
>




From jh at web.de  Wed May 22 10:55:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed May 22 10:55:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Munging the URL?
In-Reply-To: <NBBBIOJPGKJEKIECEMCBMEGCNBAA.pobrien@orbtech.com>
Message-ID: <E17AaJQ-0006H4-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 22 May 2002 08:01:34 -0500, Patrick K. O'Brien wrote:

>But subsequent links inside MoinMoin look like this:
>
>http://orbtech.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/RecentChanges

Try 

os.environ['SCRIPT_NAME'] = "/wiki"

in your moin_config.


Ciao, J?rgen





From pobrien at orbtech.com  Wed May 22 11:13:02 2002
From: pobrien at orbtech.com (Patrick K. O'Brien)
Date: Wed May 22 11:13:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Munging the URL?
In-Reply-To: <E17AaJQ-0006H4-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <NBBBIOJPGKJEKIECEMCBIEHDNBAA.pobrien@orbtech.com>

[Juergen Hermann]
> 
> Try 
> 
> os.environ['SCRIPT_NAME'] = "/wiki"
> 
> in your moin_config.

Success! Thank you very much. That works perfectly. I'm happy.

---
Patrick K. O'Brien
Orbtech



From vasenn at gmx.ch  Wed May 22 14:19:01 2002
From: vasenn at gmx.ch (V. Senn)
Date: Wed May 22 14:19:01 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] How to create txt link file
Message-ID: <000101c201d6$6b6bc810$4c11a2d9@gigantic>

Hi everybody & J?rgen

Thank you for your fast reply. Unfortunately I'm a newbie and need additional howto information to my problem. By the way, MoinMoin is the most sophisticated Wiki I encountered. ?

Problem description:
*** BEGIN ***
But unfortunately we couldn't combine MoinMoin and 
TouchGraph WikiBrowser, because there is no link database in txt file format available. It would be nice to have a moinmoin.txt link file automatically created to be used for the TG WikiBrowser, a very cool topic viewer with browser. (topic viewer available in www.touchgraph.com, another souceforge opensource project).
*** END ***

I got the replys by J?rgen Hermann:

1st REPLY:
Release 1.0 does support this, see the release notes:
* "action=link" works like MeatBall:LinkDatabase
If you need more details, please use the User mailing list.

2ND REPLY:
Err, typo, it's ...?action=links&mimetype=text/plain


Unfortunately I cannot figure where to put the command line
?action=links&mimetype=text/plain

I am using an Apache Server on my win xp pro system at home. I want to test MoinMoin with TouchGraph WikiBrowser before installing it on the web.

Bye
V. Senn






From j.her at t-online.de  Wed May 22 14:48:02 2002
From: j.her at t-online.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed May 22 14:48:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] How to create txt link file
In-Reply-To: <000101c201d6$6b6bc810$4c11a2d9@gigantic>
Message-ID: <17Adwc-0tYhf6C@fwd05.sul.t-online.com>

On Wed, 22 May 2002 23:19:50 +0200, V. Senn wrote:

>Unfortunately I cannot figure where to put the command line

It is not command line. You put it into the location field of your
browser:

http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/?action=links&mim
etype=text/plain

Obviously, you use your wiki's base url.

Ciao, J?rgen





From chaos at in.fer.no  Thu May 30 08:18:05 2002
From: chaos at in.fer.no (Geir Thomassen)
Date: Thu May 30 08:18:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin as main page (apache)
Message-ID: <3CF64305.4030205@in.fer.no>

I am playing with moin 1.0 on RedHat 7.3, python2.2 and apache.

I want my users to visit the start page when they open http://machine.domain/

Everything works fine when I am using:

Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/"
ScriptAlias /mywiki "/var/www/mywiki/moin.cgi"

and the start page is http://machine.domain/mywiki/

NOW, I want the start page to be just http://machine.domain/, so I
change the apache ScriptAlias to:

ScriptAlias / "/var/www/mywiki/moin.cgi"

the opening page loads correctly, but every link is an apache "Not Found"
page. Any ideas ?


Regards
Geir




From kjcole at gri.gallaudet.edu  Thu May 30 10:29:06 2002
From: kjcole at gri.gallaudet.edu (Kevin Cole)
Date: Thu May 30 10:29:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Bug? Pages not subscribed
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205301300120.5529-100000@gri.gallaudet.edu>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1


Hi,

Perhaps a FAQ, perhaps a bug.  I just installed MoinMoin yesterday, and
everything seems to work as documented except that the pages I've
subscribed to report that no one is subscribed after I make a change.  
Mail is working, because I can get it to mail my User Profile info to
me. My profile page lists two subscribed pages, and "Send mail
notification" has a checkmark in the box when I save. 

(SPECS: Red Hat Linux 7.2, Python 2.2, MoinMoin 1.0.)

P.S. I've noticed when I post to some non-local MoinMoin's, my browser
     just sits there "Sending request to twistedmatrix.com" or wherever.
     The browser never finishes sending the "Save Changes" request.  Is 
     it because twistedmatrix (or wherever) doesn't allow changes from
     strangers or is something else going wrong?

- -- 
 Kevin Cole, RHCE, Linux Admin  |  E-mail:  kjcole at gri.gallaudet.edu
 Gallaudet Research Institute   |  WWW:     http://gri.gallaudet.edu/~kjcole/
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From brian at dorseys.org  Thu May 30 12:16:03 2002
From: brian at dorseys.org (Brian Dorsey)
Date: Thu May 30 12:16:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin as main page (apache)
In-Reply-To: <3CF64305.4030205@in.fer.no>; from chaos@in.fer.no on Thu, May 30, 2002 at 05:19:33PM +0200
References: <3CF64305.4030205@in.fer.no>
Message-ID: <20020530122248.B15993@dorseys.org>

This is kind of a hack, but here's how we did it:

http://www.seapig.org/MoinCleanUrls

Take care,
-Brian

On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 05:19:33PM +0200, Geir Thomassen wrote:
> I am playing with moin 1.0 on RedHat 7.3, python2.2 and apache.
> 
> I want my users to visit the start page when they open http://machine.domain/
> 
> Everything works fine when I am using:
> 
> Alias /wiki/ "/usr/share/moin/htdocs/"
> ScriptAlias /mywiki "/var/www/mywiki/moin.cgi"
> 
> and the start page is http://machine.domain/mywiki/
> 
> NOW, I want the start page to be just http://machine.domain/, so I
> change the apache ScriptAlias to:
> 
> ScriptAlias / "/var/www/mywiki/moin.cgi"
> 
> the opening page loads correctly, but every link is an apache "Not Found"
> page. Any ideas ?
> 
> 
> Regards
> Geir
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________________________
> 
> Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference
> August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user



From lele at seldati.it  Thu May 30 15:25:05 2002
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Thu May 30 15:25:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Bug? Pages not subscribed
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205301300120.5529-100000@gri.gallaudet.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0205301300120.5529-100000@gri.gallaudet.edu>
Message-ID: <15606.42650.78739.251391@paci.nautilus>

>>>>> On Thu, 30 May 2002 13:06:22 -0400 (EDT), Kevin Cole <kjcole at gri.gallaudet.edu> said:

    KC> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1


    KC> Hi,

    KC> Perhaps a FAQ, perhaps a bug.  I just installed MoinMoin
    KC> yesterday, and everything seems to work as documented except
    KC> that the pages I've subscribed to report that no one is
    KC> subscribed after I make a change.  Mail is working, because I
    KC> can get it to mail my User Profile info to me. My profile page
    KC> lists two subscribed pages, and "Send mail notification" has a
    KC> checkmark in the box when I save.

MoinMoin won't send the notification to the same person who did the
change, in your case, you :)

ciao, lele.
-- 
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real: Emanuele Gaifas	| comincero' ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
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