From jeff at corrt.com  Fri Mar  1 07:40:26 2002
From: jeff at corrt.com (Jeff Kunce)
Date: Fri Mar  1 07:40:26 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for ISP with Python/MoinMoin
In-Reply-To: <EF8E39AA846CD411BB9C00508B951F51035DF7CA@MCHH267E>
Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20020301093651.009fe4d0@corrt.com>

Take a look at http://www.corrt.com/info/pyisp-list.html
It's a little out of date, but there are some good ideas there.

I've been using www.pair.com for several years, and have been quite
satisfied. They have python installed, but I always compile it in my own
directories so I can have the extensions I want. MoinMoin (installed in my
directory) works just fine.

  --Jeff

At 08:33 AM 3/1/2002 +0100, Waclawczyk Janusch wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I would like to set up a MoinMoin wiki to follow my genealogical / family
tree.
>I think the wiki concept is a cheap and convenient way for such a task.
>
>Would you recommend to me some sites / ISPs, which offer Python (possibly
also MoinMoin) for CGI?
>It should not cost too much!
>
>Special wish (but not mandatory): possibility for access restriction (e.g.
Apache like), because
>I don't want to make the wiki public.
>
>
>Regards,
>Janusz Waclawczyk
>
>It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the
credit. 
>Harry S. Truman
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Moin-user mailing list
>Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
>https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user
>
>




From jh at web.de  Fri Mar  1 10:11:20 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri Mar  1 10:11:20 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Server timeout while saving changes
In-Reply-To: <200203010108.g2118GcP015641@rebellion.durhamc.on.ca>
Message-ID: <E16grTY-0001Gq-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:08:16 -0500, Louis Bertrand wrote:

>I just finished setting up moin-0.11 on:
> OpenBSD 2.8
> Python 2.0 (#3, Apr  1 2001, 06:33:02)
> Apache/1.3.14

KeepAlive on or off in httpd.conf?


Ciao, J?rgen





From louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca  Fri Mar  1 10:44:33 2002
From: louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca (Louis Bertrand)
Date: Fri Mar  1 10:44:33 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Server timeout while saving changes
In-Reply-To: <E16grTY-0001Gq-00@smtp.web.de>
References: <E16grTY-0001Gq-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <200203011840.g21IeDPS011225@rebellion.durhamc.on.ca>

On March 1, 2002 01:09 pm, Juergen Hermann mused out loud:
> On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:08:16 -0500, Louis Bertrand wrote:
> >I just finished setting up moin-0.11 on:
> > OpenBSD 2.8
> > Python 2.0 (#3, Apr  1 2001, 06:33:02)
> > Apache/1.3.14
>
> KeepAlive on or off in httpd.conf?
>
>
> Ciao, J?rgen

Timeout 300
KeepAlive On
MaxKeepAliveRequests 100
KeepAliveTimeout 15
(The server is not terribly busy at the moment)

I tried upping the KeepAliveTimeout to 60, but that didn't 
change anything. It works with Netscape but not Konqueror 
because it quits too soon. The Preview button works fine 
and returns the page very fast (one second or so).

Thanks
 --Louis

-- 
Louis Bertrand <louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca>

School of Technology, Durham College
Oshawa, ON, Canada
+1.905.721.3111 x2468



From jh at web.de  Sat Mar  2 08:36:40 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Sat Mar  2 08:36:40 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] 0.11 final release
Message-ID: <E16hCSu-0003kR-00@smtp.web.de>

Hi!

Next weekend is the sheduled release date for 0.11 final, as the doc 
update is nearly completed. I just synched the translation texts, so if 
you want to have them 100% up-to-date for the release, the time is 
now...

The following command, which lists the untranslated texts, will help 
you (replace "fr" with your language):

py MoinMoin\i18n\_check.py fr


Ciao, J?rgen





From trsjandrews at yahoo.com.au  Mon Mar  4 18:03:06 2002
From: trsjandrews at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?steph=20andrews?=)
Date: Mon Mar  4 18:03:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] newbie blues
In-Reply-To: <E16gVRT-00087j-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <20020305020241.60337.qmail@web13804.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- Juergen Hermann <jh at web.de> wrote: 

> Try 0.11 beta 1 again, with the current install
> instructions at
>
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnWin32
> 
> Ciao, J?rgen

I tried the above instructions and it worked fine for
winNT. Unfortunately it still didn't work for win98.
 
I mucked around lots with moin.bat and moin.cgi, but
could not get them to play the game.  I tried some
very simple combinations of .bat files calling .cgi
files but could not get it to work.  I concluded that
Apache on Win98 (at least my installation) is a bad
joke.  I managed to overcome the problem by calling
moin.cgi directly.  This just required:
'SetEnv PYTHONPATH "C:/Moin"' in httpd.conf 
and '#! c:\python21\python' in moin.cgi
 
Thanks for helping,

Tim   

http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies
- Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool.



From whisper at oz.net  Thu Mar  7 21:45:28 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Thu Mar  7 21:45:28 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Problem getting Moin to run
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEEEHDCIAA.whisper@oz.net>

Windows 2000 Professional
Apache 2.0.32
Python 2.1
Moin 0.11

I installed moin into d:/moin using "python setup.py
install --prefix=d:/moin"

I got test.cgi to run by changing the shebang line to point to the python
exe file. It returns (in part):

MoinMoin CGI Diagnosis
======================

Package "MoinMoin" sucessfully imported.

Release  0.11
Revision 1.148

Checking directories...
*** data directory NOT FOUND (set to 'data')
*** text directory NOT FOUND (set to 'data\text')
*** user directory NOT FOUND (set to 'data\user')
*** backup directory NOT FOUND (set to 'data\backup')

*** The edit log 'data\editlog' is not writable!
*** Could not find external diff utility 'diff'!

I changed moin-config.py to:
# basic options (you normally need to change these)
sitename = 'Dave Wiki'
interwikiname = None
url_prefix = 'd:/moin/share/moin'
data_dir = url_prefix + '/data/'
logo_url = url_prefix + '/htdocs/img/moinmoin.gif'

There's a big disconnect between the instructions in INSTALL and the
directory structure. In particular, there's no longer a wiki-moinmoin
directory.

If I try to run moin.cgi from a command line I get this:

D:\Apache2\cgi-bin>python moin.cgi
d:/moin\MoinMoin\config.py:28: UserWarning: import of moin_config failed due
to "No module named
 moin_config"; default configuration used instead.
  warnings.warn(msg)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "moin.cgi", line 15, in ?
    cgimain.run()
  File "d:\moin\MoinMoin\cgimain.py", line 95, in run
    sys.stderr = open(os.path.join(config.data_dir, 'err_log'), 'at')
IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'data\\err_log'

At this point i'm totally lost. Earlier versions of moinmoin where hard to
install, but this one has me stumped.

Dave LeBlanc
Seattle, WA USA




From whisper at oz.net  Thu Mar  7 22:01:05 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Thu Mar  7 22:01:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Problem getting moin to run resolved
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEOEHDCIAA.whisper@oz.net>

Found an old posting on the mailing list and got it working.

Dave LeBlanc
Seattle, WA USA



From alexis.iglauer at gerling.de  Fri Mar  8 02:34:06 2002
From: alexis.iglauer at gerling.de (alexis.iglauer at gerling.de)
Date: Fri Mar  8 02:34:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade 0.9 to 0.10
Message-ID: <BFA368578FD2D41197100008C786EEAE04AD7911@tmdecgn0004.decgn.gerling.com>

Hi

I have an existing MoinMoin Wiki running under 0.9 and want to upgrade it to
0.10.  Two questions:

- How do I get my data across to the 0.10 install?  
- Do I need to modify anything else other than config.py?

Thanks

Alexis Iglauer
< End of message >




From jh at web.de  Fri Mar  8 06:15:15 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri Mar  8 06:15:15 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Upgrade 0.9 to 0.10
In-Reply-To: <BFA368578FD2D41197100008C786EEAE04AD7911@tmdecgn0004.decgn.gerling.com>
Message-ID: <E16jL90-00005R-00@smtp.web.de>

On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:22:05 +0100, alexis.iglauer at gerling.de wrote:

>I have an existing MoinMoin Wiki running under 0.9 and want to upgrade it to
>0.10.  Two questions:

0.11 final appears this weekend, so just wait. :)


Ciao, J?rgen





From whisper at oz.net  Sat Mar  9 00:54:03 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Sat Mar  9 00:54:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] XML problems
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEIEIICIAA.whisper@oz.net>

Clicked on xml icon on top right of page.

Using moin-0.11 with apache-2.0.32, python-2.1 and 4suite-0.12a01 (not sure
if that's relevent) on Windows 2000 Professional, IE 6.0 returns:

The XML page cannot be displayed
Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet. Please correct the error and
then click the Refresh button, or try again later.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

End tag 'p' does not match the start tag 's2'. Error processing resource
'http://216.39.170.247/davewiki/FrontPage?action=format&mimetype=text/xml'.
Line 4, Position 3


</p>
--^

Attempting to review the page source is in vain: IE returns "The XML page
source is not available".

http://216.39.170.247/davewiki/XsltVersion also chokes with the error:
AttributeError: 'Ft' module has no attribute '__pyxml_version__'. I believe
this is because 4suite-0.12 no longer uses pyxml, but that is only a guess.
(Nice error reporting by the way!)

Dave LeBlanc
Seattle, WA USA




From jh at web.de  Sat Mar  9 04:22:08 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Sat Mar  9 04:22:08 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] XML problems
In-Reply-To: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEIEIICIAA.whisper@oz.net>
Message-ID: <E16jfr8-0000DP-00@smtp.web.de>

On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:55:49 -0800, David LeBlanc wrote:

>The XML page cannot be displayed
>Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet. Please correct the error and
>then click the Refresh button, or try again later.

Quoting from CHANGES:
    * XML formatting now (most often) produces well-formed, and, depending
      on proper layout of the wiki page, valid StyleBook XML

Note the "most often".

>http://216.39.170.247/davewiki/XsltVersion also chokes with the error:
>AttributeError: 'Ft' module has no attribute '__pyxml_version__'. I believe
>this is because 4suite-0.12 no longer uses pyxml, but that is only a guess.
>(Nice error reporting by the way!)

This is an error _INTERNAL_ to 4Suite, report to them and send them the 
XsltVersion page content (i.e. the stylesheet) plus the traceback.


Ciao, J?rgen





From whisper at oz.net  Sun Mar 10 20:49:02 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Sun Mar 10 20:49:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] XML problems
In-Reply-To: <E16jfr8-0000DP-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEKEKACIAA.whisper@oz.net>

Actually it's a bit of everything: 4suite is newer then pyxml and pyxml
calls into 4suite; also the signature of some routines has changed
(stylesheetreader.fromstring() for example) and moinmoin uses the older
signature with more arguments. It's what I get for trying to use newer with
older... <sigh>

I punted back to pyxml 0.7 and 4suite-0.11.1 and now I get a key error.

Can you tell me what versions of what I should be using?

Regards,

Dave LeBlanc
Seattle, WA USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jh at web.de [mailto:jh at web.de]
> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 4:21
> To: David LeBlanc; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] XML problems
>
>
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 00:55:49 -0800, David LeBlanc wrote:
>
> >The XML page cannot be displayed
> >Cannot view XML input using XSL style sheet. Please correct the error and
> >then click the Refresh button, or try again later.
>
> Quoting from CHANGES:
>     * XML formatting now (most often) produces well-formed, and, depending
>       on proper layout of the wiki page, valid StyleBook XML
>
> Note the "most often".
>
> >http://216.39.170.247/davewiki/XsltVersion also chokes with the error:
> >AttributeError: 'Ft' module has no attribute
> '__pyxml_version__'. I believe
> >this is because 4suite-0.12 no longer uses pyxml, but that is
> only a guess.
> >(Nice error reporting by the way!)
>
> This is an error _INTERNAL_ to 4Suite, report to them and send them the
> XsltVersion page content (i.e. the stylesheet) plus the traceback.
>
>
> Ciao, J?rgen
>
>
>




From louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca  Mon Mar 11 08:30:05 2002
From: louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca (Louis Bertrand)
Date: Mon Mar 11 08:30:05 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Server timeout while saving changes
In-Reply-To: <200203010108.g2118GcP015641@rebellion.durhamc.on.ca>
References: <200203010108.g2118GcP015641@rebellion.durhamc.on.ca>
Message-ID: <200203111628.g2BGSZuJ000593@rebellion.durhamc.on.ca>

The problem seems to have gone away by itself. I don't know 
if it was because of the school's firewall, or because the 
server was rebooted due to a power failure. Shrug.

Ciao
 --Louis

-- 
Louis Bertrand <louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca>

School of Technology, Durham College
Oshawa, ON, Canada
+1.905.721.3111 x2468

On February 28, 2002 08:08 pm, Louis Bertrand mused out 
loud:
> Hello,
>
> I just finished setting up moin-0.11 on:
>  OpenBSD 2.8
>  Python 2.0 (#3, Apr  1 2001, 06:33:02)
>  Apache/1.3.14
>
> http://opentech.durhamc.on.ca/cgi-bin/moin.cgi
>
> It seems to work fine except that saving changes takes so
> long it times out the browser (Konqueror gives up, while
> Netscape seems to have a longer timeout). However the
> editing is saved, as you can see if you hit the stop
> button then refresh. I see activity in the data directory
> log files and so on.
>
> How do I find out what the bottleneck might be?
>
> (There was nothing relevant in the users list for the
> last 2 months, but I'll be digging further...)
>
> Thanks
>  --Louis

-- 
Louis Bertrand <louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca>

School of Technology, Durham College
Oshawa, ON, Canada
+1.905.721.3111 x2468



From whisper at oz.net  Tue Mar 12 12:03:58 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Tue Mar 12 12:03:58 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin and Xml/Xsl
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEEENJCIAA.whisper@oz.net>

Moin-0.11 seems happiest with 4suite-0.11.1 and PyXml-0.6.6. I found out
that PyXml _must_ be installed before 4suite, or things don't work right.

I haven't tried it yet, but a 4suite developer suggested the following:

Install PyXml-0.7, then delete the xslt and xpath sub-diretories (they're
said to be broken).
Install 4suite-0.12a1
Change all references in Moin from "import xml.xslt.*" to "import
Ft.Xml.Xslt.*" (caps important). Do the same if xml.xpath is referenced.

Moin doesn't co-exist (run using it) with PyApache in case anyone is
interested.

Dave LeBlanc
Seattle, WA USA





From j.her at t-online.de  Tue Mar 12 12:30:16 2002
From: j.her at t-online.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Mar 12 12:30:16 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin and Xml/Xsl
In-Reply-To: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEEENJCIAA.whisper@oz.net>
Message-ID: <16ksmi-19uYz2C@fwd09.sul.t-online.com>

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:41:16 -0800, David LeBlanc wrote:

>Moin-0.11 seems happiest with 4suite-0.11.1 and PyXml-0.6.6.

I run 0.11.1 with a CVS pre-0.7 version, I think.

>Change all references in Moin from "import xml.xslt.*" to "import
>Ft.Xml.Xslt.*" (caps important). Do the same if xml.xpath is referenced.

I will change that if we have a stable 4Suite release.

>Moin doesn't co-exist (run using it) with PyApache in case anyone is
>interested.

I've said it many times: currently, ANY sort of module persistency
across requests will break the code in subtle ways.

Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Tue Mar 12 12:30:43 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Mar 12 12:30:43 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: [ANN] MoinMoin 0.11
In-Reply-To: <sc8e0c3e.005@mail.conservation.state.mo.us>
Message-ID: <E16ksop-0006GP-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:09:28 -0600, Jeffrey Kunce wrote:

>At http://download.sourceforge.net/moin/  :
>
> moin-0.11.tar.gz           16-Jan-2002 16:20   257k  
> moin-0.11.tgz              11-Mar-2002 14:56   324k  
> moin-0.11.zip              11-Mar-2002 14:53   485k  
>
>I'm guessing that the first one (tar.gz) is probably beta1

To my knowledge, sf.net does not allow deletion of files once they are 
uploaded, you can just remove references to them from the web 
interface.


Ciao, J?rgen





From adam at personaltelco.net  Tue Mar 12 14:34:02 2002
From: adam at personaltelco.net (Adam Shand)
Date: Tue Mar 12 14:34:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] multiple wiki instances pointing at same data store
Message-ID: <1015972367.14836.90.camel@isashand>

will i have any problems if i install multiple instances of moin moin
under different apache virtual hosts but have them share the same
data_dir?

my main concern would be people editing the same page via different
urls.

the reason i want this is to be able to customize the look and feel of
the wiki depending on the host they access it as.

thanks,
adam.







From dswegen at software.plasmon.com  Wed Mar 13 02:42:02 2002
From: dswegen at software.plasmon.com (Dave Swegen)
Date: Wed Mar 13 02:42:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
Message-ID: <20020313104057.GI8675@software.plasmon>

We have started using Moin here at work (and is is very popular, btw),
and we are considering moving more or less all our documentation to it.

One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them
with different ones). So far the only way I can think of doing it is by
placing a comment in the header and footer, and then having a script
fetch the page and only keeping the stuff between the comments.

Now I noticed that moin has the ability to export a page as XML, and I
can't but help think that this might do exactly what I want. The
question is: How do I use this XML to transform it to HTML? If this is
the correct approach I would very much appreciate any pointers to how I
should go about transforming the XML.

Any help will be much appreciated (and thanks for all the hard work :)

Cheers
	Dave



From jeff at corrt.com  Wed Mar 13 08:18:04 2002
From: jeff at corrt.com (Jeff Kunce)
Date: Wed Mar 13 08:18:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <20020313104057.GI8675@software.plasmon>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101307.00a9c7a0@corrt.com>

>One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
>contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them

Have you tried the "Print" icon on each page?

   --Jeff




From jeff at corrt.com  Wed Mar 13 08:35:07 2002
From: jeff at corrt.com (Jeff Kunce)
Date: Wed Mar 13 08:35:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Where are we?
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101612.00aa5ec0@corrt.com>

I have a few MoinMoin modifications that I use locally, and
it is always a struggle to keep them synched with the latest
CVS. I had been waiting for the release of 0.11 to launch some
new wikis, because I was looking for a logical pause in the
MoinMoin development. But now 0.11 has been released, and Juergen
is committing new changes faster than ever.

Juergen, can you tell us what the big picture is? Is 0.11 a
significant milestone, or just arbitrary "snapshot" release?
Are there major changes coming in the immediate future?

Thanks.

   --Jeff




From jh at web.de  Wed Mar 13 10:53:02 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Mar 13 10:53:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101307.00a9c7a0@corrt.com>
Message-ID: <E16lDpj-0001S8-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:15:28 -0600, Jeff Kunce wrote:

>>One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
>>contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them
>
>Have you tried the "Print" icon on each page?

I guess not. ;)


Ciao, J?rgen





From brian at dorseys.org  Wed Mar 13 10:57:02 2002
From: brian at dorseys.org (Brian Dorsey)
Date: Wed Mar 13 10:57:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <20020313104057.GI8675@software.plasmon>; from dswegen@software.plasmon.com on Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:40:57AM +0000
References: <20020313104057.GI8675@software.plasmon>
Message-ID: <20020313105754.A11306@dorseys.org>

There is also the moin-dump.py script for dumping the wiki to html.


On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:40:57AM +0000, Dave Swegen wrote:
> We have started using Moin here at work (and is is very popular, btw),
> and we are considering moving more or less all our documentation to it.
> 
> One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
> contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them
> with different ones). So far the only way I can think of doing it is by
> placing a comment in the header and footer, and then having a script
> fetch the page and only keeping the stuff between the comments.
> 
> Now I noticed that moin has the ability to export a page as XML, and I
> can't but help think that this might do exactly what I want. The
> question is: How do I use this XML to transform it to HTML? If this is
> the correct approach I would very much appreciate any pointers to how I
> should go about transforming the XML.
> 
> Any help will be much appreciated (and thanks for all the hard work :)
> 
> Cheers
> 	Dave
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Moin-user mailing list
> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user



From brian at dorseys.org  Wed Mar 13 10:58:04 2002
From: brian at dorseys.org (Brian Dorsey)
Date: Wed Mar 13 10:58:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <E16lDpj-0001S8-00@smtp.web.de>; from jh@web.de on Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 07:49:59PM +0100
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101307.00a9c7a0@corrt.com> <E16lDpj-0001S8-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <20020313105904.B11306@dorseys.org>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 07:49:59PM +0100, Juergen Hermann wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:15:28 -0600, Jeff Kunce wrote:
> 
> >>One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
> >>contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them
> >
> >Have you tried the "Print" icon on each page?
> 
> I guess not. ;)
> 
> 
I've been using "print" and the python code colorizing in MoinMoin for
an easy way to print nicely colored python source. ;)

-Brian



From phil at filsa.net  Wed Mar 13 11:04:02 2002
From: phil at filsa.net (Phil Suh)
Date: Wed Mar 13 11:04:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101307.00a9c7a0@corrt.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203131059150.4667-100000@unagi.filsa.net>

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Jeff Kunce wrote:

> 
> >One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
> >contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them
> 
> Have you tried the "Print" icon on each page?

While the ?action=print is nice, it would also be useful to grab the body 
text of the wiki page (perhaps action=bodyprint?). This mode would not 
print the <html>, <body>, or <head> tags... just the content of the page. 
I've hacked something like this up for some internal sites. I use the 
action=bodyprint in combination with Apache includes to do some simple 
templating. The point is to use Moin's ease of editing/writing, and then 
stick the body contents into a completely different template.

Phil Suh





From jh at web.de  Wed Mar 13 11:36:08 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Mar 13 11:36:08 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Where are we?
Message-ID: <E16lEXE-0000p0-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:29:50 -0600, Jeff Kunce wrote:

>I have a few MoinMoin modifications that I use locally, and
>it is always a struggle to keep them synched with the latest
>CVS. 

Well, if you keep them hidden, the chance is low they get committed. 
Tell us what you changed, and we can talk about whether the are of 
general interest, and what we can do to ease to keep the rest up to 
date.

>I had been waiting for the release of 0.11 to launch some
>new wikis, because I was looking for a logical pause in the
>MoinMoin development. But now 0.11 has been released, and Juergen
>is committing new changes faster than ever.

Yeah, life is hard on you. :>

>Juergen, can you tell us what the big picture is? Is 0.11 a
>significant milestone, or just arbitrary "snapshot" release?
>Are there major changes coming in the immediate future?

Some corner stones:

 1. 0.11's major goal was up-to-date and complete docs, at least 
_mentioning_ each feature. We're there, and it'll stay that way now 
(no docs, no feature ==> i.e. no more contributions w/o a doc page).

 2. 1.0 will be the release that has an automatic way (script, Admin 
macro) to create and maintain wikis; 1.0 will also be the last 1.5.2 
compatible release. 0.12 might be 1.0.

 3. 0.12 will get any new features I find interesting, or a 
contributor finds interesting. See 
wiki:MoinMoin:MoinMoinTodo/ReleaseV012 and related pages.

 4. We have a wealth of nice and useful ideas, and contributions 
would help to pace ahead. One example is the ComplexSearch macro, 
which can be done w/o any changes to the core (or minor changes, 
which I'd do if needed).

 5. I need feedback on and help with HelpForDevelopers, i.e. what 
you'd like to see there, and you can add what you know (especially to 
"Tour of the most important modules")

 6. Really major refactorings, that will be scheduled on available 
time:
    a) change the parser/formatter interface so that it can reliably 
produce well-formed X(HT)ML.
    b) add some sort of templating / skins
    c) refactor for persistency (pervasive use & passing around of 
"request")


Ciao, J?rgen





From whisper at oz.net  Wed Mar 13 12:39:30 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Wed Mar 13 12:39:30 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] New features doc?
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEEEPLCIAA.whisper@oz.net>

I just downloaded and installed the latest MM, and I was wondering where the
new feature documentation you mentioned is to be found?

Regards,

Dave LeBlanc
Seattle, WA USA




From whisper at oz.net  Wed Mar 13 12:45:45 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Wed Mar 13 12:45:45 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Search Problem
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOECEPMCIAA.whisper@oz.net>

If I start up MM and enter (for example) "SystemInfo" in the topic search
box at the bottom of the page, Apache returns:
Not Found
The requested URL /FrontPage was not found on this server.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----

Apache/1.3.23 Server at 216.39.170.247 Port 80



If you navigate to the FindPage page, "FrontPage" is the default in the edit
boxes. If you replace that with what you're actually looking for, then the
search works. If you then return to the FrontPage and use the box at the
bottom, it then works.

This is using:
	MoinMoin-0.11
	Apache-1.3.23
	Windows 2000
	IE 6.0

Damn! I just realized the new installation blew off my stash of LocalWords!




From jh at web.de  Wed Mar 13 13:07:07 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Mar 13 13:07:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] New features doc?
In-Reply-To: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEEEPLCIAA.whisper@oz.net>
Message-ID: <E16lFxL-0005Kv-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:32:24 -0800, David LeBlanc wrote:

>I just downloaded and installed the latest MM, and I was wondering where the
>new feature documentation you mentioned is to be found?

http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnUpdating#head-d0b0f515ad64ca357140d4d452724c6892bbe084

for how to add it to your own wiki. So basically. RTFM to get TFM. :)

http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpContents

to browse it directly.

Ciao, J?rgen





From brian at dorseys.org  Wed Mar 13 13:36:03 2002
From: brian at dorseys.org (Brian Dorsey)
Date: Wed Mar 13 13:36:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203131059150.4667-100000@unagi.filsa.net>; from phil@filsa.net on Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:02:35AM -0800
References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101307.00a9c7a0@corrt.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203131059150.4667-100000@unagi.filsa.net>
Message-ID: <20020313133658.A11384@dorseys.org>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 11:02:35AM -0800, Phil Suh wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Jeff Kunce wrote:
> 
> > 
> > >One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
> > >contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them
> > 
> > Have you tried the "Print" icon on each page?
> 
> While the ?action=print is nice, it would also be useful to grab the body 
> text of the wiki page (perhaps action=bodyprint?). This mode would not 
> print the <html>, <body>, or <head> tags... just the content of the page. 
> I've hacked something like this up for some internal sites. I use the 
> action=bodyprint in combination with Apache includes to do some simple 
> templating. The point is to use Moin's ease of editing/writing, and then 
> stick the body contents into a completely different template.
> 
If you feel like parsing Wiki markup, you could also use action=raw



From jh at web.de  Wed Mar 13 14:01:37 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Mar 13 14:01:37 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Search Problem
In-Reply-To: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOECEPMCIAA.whisper@oz.net>
Message-ID: <E16lGmA-0002DK-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:46:02 -0800, David LeBlanc wrote:

>If you navigate to the FindPage page, "FrontPage" is the default in the edit
>boxes. If you replace that with what you're actually looking for, then the
>search works. If you then return to the FrontPage and use the box at the
>bottom, it then works.

Is the same effect reproducable on the MoinMoin wiki?

>Damn! I just realized the new installation blew off my stash of LocalWords!

Quoting HelpOnUpdating:

	Before you update an existing wiki, MAKE A BACKUP! You have been warned, 
and it's not my fault when you end up like this... [eek.gif]

Sorry, no pity here. ;)  Anyway, copy the most recent backup page.


Ciao, J?rgen





From jh at web.de  Wed Mar 13 14:03:00 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Mar 13 14:03:00 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <20020313133658.A11384@dorseys.org>
Message-ID: <E16lGoA-0002iA-00@smtp.web.de>

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:36:58 -0800, Brian Dorsey wrote:

>If you feel like parsing Wiki markup, you could also use action=raw

If it's as easy as I think it is, I'll add action=content.


Ciao, J?rgen





From phil at musubi.org  Wed Mar 13 14:18:04 2002
From: phil at musubi.org (Phil Suh)
Date: Wed Mar 13 14:18:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <E16lGoA-0002iA-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <20020313141607.V28226-100000@spam.musubi.org>

On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Juergen Hermann wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:36:58 -0800, Brian Dorsey wrote:
> >If you feel like parsing Wiki markup, you could also use action=raw

I started to do this, but I'm lazy. Plus, Jurgen does a fine job of
parsing Wiki markup.

> If it's as easy as I think it is, I'll add action=content.

Great! Phil




From jh at web.de  Wed Mar 13 15:24:07 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Wed Mar 13 15:24:07 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: MoinMoin 0.11
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313211132.02afee98@mail.irrblosset.se>
Message-ID: <E16lI5u-0002fv-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:05:37 +0100, Magnus Lyck? wrote:

>A question: is it now possible to make tables where the
>content in a cell can span several rows?

Only using [[Include]]. Real support for that will come with ReST (I 
think ReST has it, not 100% sure), for the native markup maybe with the 
parser refactoring.


Ciao, J?rgen





From whisper at oz.net  Wed Mar 13 15:45:09 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Wed Mar 13 15:45:09 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Search Problem
In-Reply-To: <E16lGmA-0002DK-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEMEABCJAA.whisper@oz.net>

No - that doesn't mean it's not a real problem - I have it!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:moin-user-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Juergen
> Hermann
> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 13:58
> To: David LeBlanc; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Moin-user] Search Problem
>
>
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:46:02 -0800, David LeBlanc wrote:
>
> >If you navigate to the FindPage page, "FrontPage" is the default
> in the edit
> >boxes. If you replace that with what you're actually looking
> for, then the
> >search works. If you then return to the FrontPage and use the box at the
> >bottom, it then works.
>
> Is the same effect reproducable on the MoinMoin wiki?
>
> >Damn! I just realized the new installation blew off my stash of
> LocalWords!
>
> Quoting HelpOnUpdating:
>
> 	Before you update an existing wiki, MAKE A BACKUP! You have
> been warned,
> and it's not my fault when you end up like this... [eek.gif]
>
> Sorry, no pity here. ;)  Anyway, copy the most recent backup page.
>
>
> Ciao, J?rgen
>
>
>
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> Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net
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From dswegen at software.plasmon.com  Thu Mar 14 01:21:01 2002
From: dswegen at software.plasmon.com (Dave Swegen)
Date: Thu Mar 14 01:21:01 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Extracting page contents
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101307.00a9c7a0@corrt.com>
References: <20020313104057.GI8675@software.plasmon> <5.1.0.14.0.20020313101307.00a9c7a0@corrt.com>
Message-ID: <20020314091945.GA26519@software.plasmon>

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 10:15:28AM -0600, Jeff Kunce wrote:
> 
> >One feature we would really like to see is the ability to extract the
> >contents from a wiki page without headers or footers (or replacing them
> 
> Have you tried the "Print" icon on each page?
> 

How stupid and small do I feel now? :) I always assumed that it did some
nasty javascript stuff (or at least that's my excuse...) and never
clicked it.

But thanks for the pointer.

Cheers
	Dave



From nospamlee at astarix.co.uk  Fri Mar 15 09:47:17 2002
From: nospamlee at astarix.co.uk (Lee)
Date: Fri Mar 15 09:47:17 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] python setup.py install --record=install.log fails with
 distutils.errors.DistutilsPlatformError
Message-ID: <1016207990.2328.3458.camel@tosh@moog.astarix.co.uk>

Hi Moinmoin's,

Great wiki, I've got it working fine on my suse distribution, but my
stock
mandrake 8.1 install will not complete a distutils install via python
setup.py install --record=install.log. I have a feeling that python is
badly broken in a Mandrake install. :-((((. I ask here because I don't
know where start (I am learning the python at the moment, after dealing
with C/Linux for many years.... ;-) ). What phython build have you have
sucesses with? is distutils my problem? I am really STUCK, so I have to
ask. 
Thanks for listening..

Cheers,
Lee

rpm -qa | grep python
python-2.1.1-3mdk
python-docs-2.1.1-3mdk

python -V
Python 2.1.1

python -c 'import sys; print sys.prefix'
/usr

  cd /tmp 
  tar xfz moin-0.11.tgz 
  cd moin-0.11 
  python setup.py install --record=install.log 

I get...

 python setup.py install --record=install.log
running install
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "setup.py", line 190, in ?
    apply(setup, (), setup_args)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/core.py", line 138, in setup
    dist.run_commands()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/dist.py", line 899, in run_commands
    self.run_command(cmd)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/dist.py", line 918, in run_command
    cmd_obj.ensure_finalized()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/cmd.py", line 112, in
ensure_finalized
    self.finalize_options()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/command/install.py", line 256, in
finalize_options
    (prefix, exec_prefix) = get_config_vars('prefix', 'exec_prefix')
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/sysconfig.py", line 370, in
get_config_vars    func()
  File "/usr/lib/python2.1/distutils/sysconfig.py", line 302, in
_init_posix
    raise DistutilsPlatformError, my_msg
distutils.errors.DistutilsPlatformError: invalid Python installation:
unable to open /usr/lib/python2.1/config/Makefile (No such file or
directory)










From nospamlee at astarix.co.uk  Fri Mar 15 10:08:12 2002
From: nospamlee at astarix.co.uk (Lee)
Date: Fri Mar 15 10:08:12 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] RE: python setup.py install --record=install.log fails with
 distutils.errors.DistutilsPlatformError
Message-ID: <1016212458.2617.3465.camel@tosh@moog.astarix.co.uk>

Hello Again,
yep I found my problem, how foolish I am...
you also need rpm -i python-devel-2.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm

and all is now well...

Laters,
Lee

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From jh at web.de  Fri Mar 15 10:21:04 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri Mar 15 10:21:04 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] RE: python setup.py install --record=install.log fails with distutils.errors.DistutilsPlatformError
Message-ID: <E16lwJ9-000180-00@smtp.web.de>

On 15 Mar 2002 17:14:10 +0000, Lee wrote:

>Hello Again,
>yep I found my problem, how foolish I am...
>you also need rpm -i python-devel-2.1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm
>
>and all is now well...

To make you feel even more foolish... ;)

Quote from HelpOnInstalling_2fBasicInstallation:

NOTE: You will need the Python Development package installed on UNIX 
systems for distutils to work correctly. 


But seriously, did you find the solution yourself, or did above hint 
help? Do we have to make it even more prominent?

And BTW, please kick the ass of those package maintainers, this is a 
CONSTANT source of anger & confusion. If people do not tell them, they 
won't change it.


Ciao, J?rgen





From Bradey.Honsinger at construx.com  Thu Mar 21 19:27:02 2002
From: Bradey.Honsinger at construx.com (Bradey Honsinger)
Date: Thu Mar 21 19:27:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Added into to HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnUnix Troubleshooting secti
 on
Message-ID: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EB746E09@gypsy.construx.com>

I added a bit to the HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnUnix Troubleshooting section
on MoinMoinWiki--so, like the note on the HelpContents page says, I'm
posting it here to make sure they don't get lost. The part about the
"/mywiki?test" URL running the diagnostic script should probably go in a
top-level Troubleshooting section, but I didn't see one and didn't want to
make that big of a change to the install docs.

- Bradey

--------

==== Missing file permissions ====

If you are root, the installed files may be readable only by root--they must
also be readable by the web server before the wiki will work. This includes
both the Python modules and the site itself. To fix this, first find out
where the Python module directory is--look in `install.log`, or run the
command: 

{{{
python -c "import sys; print '%s/lib/python%s/site-packages' % ( sys.prefix,
sys.version[:3] )"
}}}

For the example below, we'll assume that the Python module directory is
`/usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages`.
Make the files world-readable using the following commands:

{{{
find /usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MoinMoin -type d | xargs chmod
a+rx
find /usr/local/lib/python2.1/site-packages/MoinMoin -type f | xargs chmod
a+r
find /usr/local/share/moin -type d | xargs chmod a+rx
find /usr/local/share/moin -type f | xargs chmod a+r
}}}

/!\ Note that by making everything under `/usr/local/share/moin`
world-readable, local users can read the files containing your wiki--you
don't really need to do that, since the `mywiki` directory is owned by the
webserver. If you don't want that, you can stick a "`| grep -v mywiki`" in
between the `find` and the `xargs`.

==== Built-in test ====

There's also a built-in diagnostic script that's useful when doing an
install--just append '`?test`' to the URL of your wiki:

{{{
lynx --dump http://`hostname`/mywiki?test
}}}

If you see an import error here, but `python -c "import Moin``Moin"` works,
it's likely a result of missing file permissions.




From lindsayd at cisco.com  Thu Mar 21 19:40:01 2002
From: lindsayd at cisco.com (Don Lindsay)
Date: Thu Mar 21 19:40:01 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] newbie install problem: no gifs!
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0203211936260.28988-100000@localhost.localdomain>

I've got my new MoinMoin 0.11 installation serving pages, but the front
page can't seem to find its GIFs or css. Um, help? Please?

The installation instructions are for an older release, so, here's exactly
what I did:

	- Ran setup.py - let's call the result $install,
		so now we have $install/bin, $install/lib, $install/share
	- Configured Apache (1.2) with:
              ScriptAliasMatch ^/wiki(.*) $install/share/moin/cgi-bin/moin.cgi
	- Edited $install/share/moin/cgi-bin/moin.cgi to have
		sys.path.append( '$install/lib/python2.1/site-packages/')
			...no, I didn't actually put a '$' in the python...
	- Edited $install/share/moin/cgi-bin/moin_config.py to have
		data_dir = '../data/'
		url_prefix = '/wiki'
	- In Apache's htdocs dir, I created a symbolic link called wiki,
		and pointed it at $install/share/moin/htdocs
	- Pointed a browser at http://www.foo/wiki

Nothing is showing up in $install/share/moin/data/err_log or in Apache's
error_log.

The $install/share/moin/data/event.log shows the page serves. Apache's
access_log shows things like

	"GET /wiki/img/PythonPowered.gif

so the browser is asking for GIFs. Yes, I set read permission.

???? I think I'm running out of ideas.

-- 
Don




From bragiba at simi.is  Fri Mar 22 00:57:02 2002
From: bragiba at simi.is (bragiba at simi.is)
Date: Fri Mar 22 00:57:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] newbie install problem: no gifs!
Message-ID: <OFB4406F9E.6039160A-ON00256B84.00304275@simi.is>


Did you set the aliases in Apache httpd.conf?   Check the html source on
your front page to see where it is looking for the images.

In my case I have MoinMoin installed in /usr/local/share/moin/wiki which
contains my cgi scripts and data dir.
My img dir and css are located in /usr/local/share/moin/htdocs/

The aliases I have in Apache?s httpd.conf are
Alias /wiki/ "/usr/local/share/moin/htdocs/"
ScriptAlias /iceWiki "/usr/local/share/moin/iceWiki/moin.cgi"

Me? kve?ju/Best Regards
Bragi Baldursson
GPRS Kerfisverkfr??ingur/GPRS Systems Engineer
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From lele at seldati.it  Fri Mar 22 03:04:03 2002
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Fri Mar 22 03:04:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Re: Server timeouts when saving changes
Message-ID: <15515.3968.316963.927231@paci.nautilus>

I'm experiencing the same problem here, but only with a particular
page, that btw does not seem to have anything strange in it.

What's bad is that when I hit the stop button, and only at that point,
MoinMoin actually writes a chunk of the page on the disk, thus
trashing its contents.

I've tried to turn KeepAlive off, with the very same result. This
happens both under PyApache as well as with the standard CGI
mechanism.

Please note that the page is actually rendered ok! I even tried to do
the server job by hand from the Python interpreter, and I got what
seemed a good page. I was not able to simulate editing, though.

Then I tried with `w3m', that btw would be a great way of editing
pages, since it may execute an external editor for the task!. Too bad
it crashes with a segfault a little after "save changes" is hit...

Any hint will be *very* appreciated,
bye&thanx, lele.
-- 
nickname: Lele Gaifax	| Quando vivro' di quello che ho pensato ieri
real: Emanuele Gaifas	| comincero' ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: lele at seldati.it	|		-- Fortunato Depero, 1929.




From jh at web.de  Fri Mar 22 10:31:09 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri Mar 22 10:31:09 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] newbie install problem: no gifs!
Message-ID: <E16oTni-0008P0-01@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:39:01 -0800 (PST), Don Lindsay wrote:

>The installation instructions are for an older release,

Hmmm, what exactly does that mean? From which URL did you download?

Anyway, as Bragi noted, you're missing the "Alias /wiki".


Ciao, J?rgen








From jh at web.de  Fri Mar 22 10:31:10 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri Mar 22 10:31:10 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Added into to HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnUnix Troubleshooting secti on
In-Reply-To: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EB746E09@gypsy.construx.com>
Message-ID: <E16oTni-0008P0-00@smtp.web.de>

On Thu, 21 Mar 2002 19:26:26 -0800, Bradey Honsinger wrote:

>I added a bit to the HelpOnInstalling/ApacheOnUnix Troubleshooting section
>on MoinMoinWiki--so, like the note on the HelpContents page says, I'm
>posting it here to make sure they don't get lost. The part about the
>"/mywiki?test" URL running the diagnostic script should probably go in a
>top-level Troubleshooting section, but I didn't see one and didn't want to
>make that big of a change to the install docs.
>
>- Bradey

Perfect, thanks. ;)  

I'll create such a page.


Ciao, J?rgen





From wa7nwp at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 22 12:34:06 2002
From: wa7nwp at yahoo.com (Bill Vodall - WA7NWP)
Date: Fri Mar 22 12:34:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin Security
In-Reply-To: <E16oTni-0008P0-00@smtp.web.de>
References: <2A53F00A2DBBDA479B7E84DA2023A4EB746E09@gypsy.construx.com>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020322122411.00a286d0@pioneernet.net>

Hello,

I've recently discovered the wonderful world of Wiki's and am busy loading
data and information in to a personal knowledge base MoinMoin wiki.

I've searched a bit and have discovered there are "hooks" for security
available but cannot find any further information.

So, has anybody set up a way to add a very light level of user security to
MoinMoin?   Maybe just require somebody making changes have a logged
in personal ID.   Additional features such as access groups and read only
pages would be nice but that's far from essential for our projects here.

Thanks,
Bill




From j.her at t-online.de  Fri Mar 22 13:13:02 2002
From: j.her at t-online.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Fri Mar 22 13:13:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin Security
In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.20020322122411.00a286d0@pioneernet.net>
Message-ID: <16oWAv-13tgfIC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com>

On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:29:10 -0800, Bill Vodall - WA7NWP wrote:

> Maybe just require somebody making changes have a logged
>in personal ID.   

Set up a RequireUser statement in httpd.conf, then check on REMOTE_USER
in a SecurityPolicy class and set edit = 1 only when it is set.

See
http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnConfigurati
on_2fSecurityPolicy for more info.

Ciao, J?rgen





From wa7nwp at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 22 15:02:02 2002
From: wa7nwp at yahoo.com (Bill Vodall - WA7NWP)
Date: Fri Mar 22 15:02:02 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Moin Security
In-Reply-To: <16oWAv-13tgfIC@fwd00.sul.t-online.com>
References: <4.2.0.58.20020322122411.00a286d0@pioneernet.net>
Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020322145448.009a8650@pioneernet.net>

One link led to another and I soon found MoinMoin/security.py.  In there
was the lines:

    #example for dynamic permissions: make pages editable only for
    # users that are logged in
    #self.edit = self.edit and user.valid

I added  the new security class in moin_cfg.py and instead of going user by
user, I put in:

   self.edit = self.edit and user.valid

That's 90% of what I needed.  Now, when I get the Apache User information
figured out, I can enhance this to use either the groups or the multiple
user schemes.

Thanks again, This will work great.

Bill


Here's the full text of what I added to the end of moin_config.py:
----
# permissions
import MoinMoin.security

class SecurityPolicy(MoinMoin.security.Permissions):
     def __init__(self, user):
         MoinMoin.security.Permissions.__init__(self, user)

         # no edits via https
         #from MoinMoin import webapi
         #self.edit = not webapi.isSSL()
         #self.delete = self.edit

         self.edit = self.edit and user.valid
         self.delete = self.edit
----
    

At 10:02 PM 3/22/02 +0100, Juergen Hermann wrote:
>On Fri, 22 Mar 2002 12:29:10 -0800, Bill Vodall - WA7NWP wrote:
>
> > Maybe just require somebody making changes have a logged
> >in personal ID.   
>
>Set up a RequireUser statement in httpd.conf, then check on REMOTE_USER
>in a SecurityPolicy class and set edit = 1 only when it is set.
>
>See
>http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnConfigurati
>on_2fSecurityPolicy for more info.
>
>Ciao, J?rgen




From lele at seldati.it  Sat Mar 23 01:43:03 2002
From: lele at seldati.it (Lele Gaifax)
Date: Sat Mar 23 01:43:03 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Timeout on saving pages
Message-ID: <15516.19956.454923.308584@paci.nautilus>

Hi all,

I spent some time investigating what is preventing me to save a
particular page in my wiki. It turned out that the problem is
apparently restricted to Mozilla, since with other browsers (Netscape,
w3m, IE, ...) everything goes well. Latest Mozilla and Galeon both
hangs "forever"...

Doing a little bit of debug (initially I thought it was triggering a
PyApache bug), I discovered that when this happens, MoinMoin hangs on
`cgi.FieldStorage()', that apparently isn't able to parse the
(possibly incomplete) input coming from the browser.

What puzzles me is that duplicating the site on my local machine, and
thus gaining both from network shortcut and from a faster cpu, the
same Mozilla works great!

Well, that's it for now,
any hint will be very appreciated!

ciao, lele.
-- 
nickname: Lele Gaifax	| Quando vivro' di quello che ho pensato ieri
real: Emanuele Gaifas	| comincero' ad aver paura di chi mi copia.
email: lele at seldati.it	|		-- Fortunato Depero, 1929.




From jh at web.de  Tue Mar 26 13:04:33 2002
From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue Mar 26 13:04:33 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] Linking to sibling pages
Message-ID: <E16py37-0006hm-00@smtp.web.de>

Hi!

People, I need some opinions on linking from one subpage to a sibling 
one. See the first section on MoinMoin:MoinMoinDiscussion.


Ciao, J?rgen





From whisper at oz.net  Tue Mar 26 14:15:12 2002
From: whisper at oz.net (David LeBlanc)
Date: Tue Mar 26 14:15:12 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] RE: [Moin-devel] Linking to sibling pages
In-Reply-To: <E16py37-0006hm-00@smtp.web.de>
Message-ID: <GCEDKONBLEFPPADDJCOEMEHICKAA.whisper@oz.net>

I looked at MoinMOinDiscussion - I take it you're referring to "Hierachical
MoinMoin", and by sibling pages you mean pages that are meant to follow the
current page in sequence? If so, how about back/forward arrow buttons on
pages that have siblings, and an up arrow to get to the first page of the
sequence? Pages that don't have siblings yet would have only a single right
arrow ("next") that would automagically create the next page in the
sequence, possibly with some sort of anonymous page name indicating that
it's within a particular sequence of pages.
I've thought this would be a great idea for breaking up page sizes and
enabling a more "book"-style approach to wikidom.

I like the way TWiki does hierarchy with it's "webs", but am not sure what
makes a web frontpage distinct from any other page at the moment. I also
would prefer that a hierarchy scheme have multiple levels (say, up to 6?)
compared to TWiki's 2 level architecture.

HTH

Dave LeBlanc
Seattle, WA USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: moin-devel-admin at lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:moin-devel-admin at lists.sourceforge.net]On Behalf Of Juergen
> Hermann
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 13:00
> To: MoinMoin Users; MoinMoin Development
> Subject: [Moin-devel] Linking to sibling pages
>
>
> Hi!
>
> People, I need some opinions on linking from one subpage to a sibling
> one. See the first section on MoinMoin:MoinMoinDiscussion.
>
>
> Ciao, J?rgen
>
>
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From stauffer at swarthmore.edu  Fri Mar 29 07:02:06 2002
From: stauffer at swarthmore.edu (Glenn Stauffer)
Date: Fri Mar 29 07:02:06 2002
Subject: [Moin-user] running moin w/boa
Message-ID: <200203291000.25479.stauffer@swarthmore.edu>

I'm setting up a moin wiki on my laptop using the boa web server.  Or trying 
to...

Anyway, I can get it to work with one exception.

This url doesn't work:

http://localhost/~stauffer/moin.cgi/FrontPage?action=edit

If I change it to this, it works:

http://localhost/~stauffer/moin.cgi?FrontPage&action=edit

There must be a way to get the "moin/FrontPage?action=edit" syntax to work.  
Is it in the boa configuration or the moin configuration?

Does anyone run this combination?  Willing to share a copy of your boa.conf 
file?

Thanks, Glenn