From seefeld at sympatico.ca Sat Feb 2 10:39:18 2002 From: seefeld at sympatico.ca (Stefan Seefeld) Date: Sat Feb 2 10:39:18 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] file attachments Message-ID: <3C5C3FC4.8000605@sympatico.ca> hi there, I'm using moin as part of the internal web site in our company. We work on a couple of projects, which each will generate various documents over their life. One thing I'd like to be able to do is use the 'attachment' feature of moin to upload said documents. However, I don't want to wrap everything inside moin, i.e. I want to keep most stuff separately, so it can be used without moin as well (after all, moin is just a 'view' on all the data we maintain). So here is the suggestion/question: Instead of mandating the directory to put the uploaded file in, couldn't this be set at moin installation time ? Then a reference to such a document could just become an ordinary URL... Best regards, Stefan From jh at web.de Sat Feb 2 12:12:06 2002 From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann) Date: Sat Feb 2 12:12:06 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] file attachments In-Reply-To: <3C5C3FC4.8000605@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: On Sat, 02 Feb 2002 14:36:36 -0500, Stefan Seefeld wrote: >So here is the suggestion/question: Instead of mandating the directory >to put the uploaded file in, couldn't this be set at moin installation >time ? Then a reference to such a document could just become an ordinary >URL... You already can. Ciao, J?rgen From cmedcoff at hotmail.com Fri Feb 8 13:31:04 2002 From: cmedcoff at hotmail.com (Charles Medcoff) Date: Fri Feb 8 13:31:04 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id Message-ID: I've installed the version 11 beta and all seems well with the exception of user ids. Users cannot create accounts and old users that don't have a cookie can't logon using their previously created preferences. 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Regards, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Juergen Hermann To: Charles Medcoff ; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id a) run test.cgi b) check WRITE permission on the user dir, the webserver needs them --Original Message Text--- From: Charles Medcoff Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:30:03 -0500 I've installed the version 11 beta and all seems well with the exception of user ids. Users cannot create accounts and old users that don't have a cookie can't logon using their previously created preferences. Any advice on how to troubleshoot this? Ciao, J?rgen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmedcoff at hotmail.com Fri Feb 8 14:16:06 2002 From: cmedcoff at hotmail.com (Charles Medcoff) Date: Fri Feb 8 14:16:06 2002 Subject: Fw: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id Message-ID: Well I just found a back way in for existing users. I got the wiki to email me a link and the link got me logged in. I noticed one caveat of the mailing thing. You must use the exact same case as the email address you typed in originally or all lowercase. I can't remember if I typed it in lower case. Anyway it probably shouldn't so selective about case. Is there a way I can write to a log file or something to debug this. I tried writing to stderr, as that is redirected to a log file, but nothing showed up in the log after executing. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Medcoff To: Juergen Hermann ; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id Step a) works fine. I am running out of a new data dir with my upgrade. I changed IIS to allow writes to the data dir (ignoring its warnings about potetial malicious attach), but the problem persists. I've done a fair amount of python and I'm getting a little but familar with the source. If I could just figure out a way to step through it in the debugger I'd figure this out myself. Regards, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Juergen Hermann To: Charles Medcoff ; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id a) run test.cgi b) check WRITE permission on the user dir, the webserver needs them --Original Message Text--- From: Charles Medcoff Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:30:03 -0500 I've installed the version 11 beta and all seems well with the exception of user ids. Users cannot create accounts and old users that don't have a cookie can't logon using their previously created preferences. Any advice on how to troubleshoot this? Ciao, J?rgen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmedcoff at hotmail.com Fri Feb 8 14:21:04 2002 From: cmedcoff at hotmail.com (Charles Medcoff) Date: Fri Feb 8 14:21:04 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] Mail subscription (11Beta) Message-ID: I subscribed to a page and then edited it. When I saved the page told me that no one was subscribed to the page so no mail was sent. I have both "mail_from" and "mail_smarthost" set in moin_config.py. I know my mailserver works as I just used it to have MoinMoin send me my account info. Any advice appreciated. Regards, Chuck -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cmedcoff at hotmail.com Fri Feb 8 15:09:04 2002 From: cmedcoff at hotmail.com (Charles Medcoff) Date: Fri Feb 8 15:09:04 2002 Subject: Fw: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id Message-ID: OK, I've figured it out. It was user error. Some lessons learned though. 1) When you create a profile you don't provide an id, rather one is generated. (I swear that when I created my profile I typed in some text for an id and received no complaints.) Lesson learned: It need to be made a bit clearer that they are two separtes functions/forms on this page. Something to differentiate the 2 forms a bit more, more whitespace, whatever. 2) When you log back in you type in the id that was generated when you created your profile. You don't even have to supply the password. Just type in the id and click on submit. I'm not sure what the point of the password is. Lesson learned: It seems that a user should be able to supply a logon id when the created their preferences along with a password. If they ever loose the cookie they aught to be able to obtain it again my supplying their id (of thier choice) and password. This is now most stuff works. Well that's my take anyway. I'm ready to be flamed. Chuck P.S. I figured this out by putting the following code into User.load(). sys.stderr.write("%s %s exists? %s" % (os.getcwd(),self.__filename(), self.exists()) ) sys.stderr.flush() ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Medcoff To: Juergen Hermann ; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:15 PM Subject: Fw: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id Well I just found a back way in for existing users. I got the wiki to email me a link and the link got me logged in. I noticed one caveat of the mailing thing. You must use the exact same case as the email address you typed in originally or all lowercase. I can't remember if I typed it in lower case. Anyway it probably shouldn't so selective about case. Is there a way I can write to a log file or something to debug this. I tried writing to stderr, as that is redirected to a log file, but nothing showed up in the log after executing. ----- Original Message ----- From: Charles Medcoff To: Juergen Hermann ; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id Step a) works fine. I am running out of a new data dir with my upgrade. I changed IIS to allow writes to the data dir (ignoring its warnings about potetial malicious attach), but the problem persists. I've done a fair amount of python and I'm getting a little but familar with the source. If I could just figure out a way to step through it in the debugger I'd figure this out myself. Regards, Chuck ----- Original Message ----- From: Juergen Hermann To: Charles Medcoff ; moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [Moin-user] 11Beta - Problems with User Id a) run test.cgi b) check WRITE permission on the user dir, the webserver needs them --Original Message Text--- From: Charles Medcoff Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:30:03 -0500 I've installed the version 11 beta and all seems well with the exception of user ids. Users cannot create accounts and old users that don't have a cookie can't logon using their previously created preferences. Any advice on how to troubleshoot this? Ciao, J?rgen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at dorseys.org Fri Feb 8 16:27:03 2002 From: brian at dorseys.org (Brian Dorsey) Date: Fri Feb 8 16:27:03 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] Mail subscription (11Beta) In-Reply-To: ; from cmedcoff@hotmail.com on Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 05:18:59PM -0500 References: Message-ID: <20020208162753.A31143@dorseys.org> The wiki won't mail you if you're the one who made the change. Make a change from another browser(or computer) and you'll get mail. (or you could just log-out, I suppose. ;) This confused me for a while. Take care, -Brian On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 05:18:59PM -0500, Charles Medcoff wrote: > I subscribed to a page and then edited it. When I saved the page told me that no one was subscribed to the page so no mail was sent. I have both "mail_from" and "mail_smarthost" set in moin_config.py. > > I know my mailserver works as I just used it to have MoinMoin send me my account info. > > Any advice appreciated. > > Regards, > Chuck > > From jh at web.de Mon Feb 25 17:13:15 2002 From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann) Date: Mon Feb 25 17:13:15 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] 0.11 and IIS Message-ID: Hi! If someone does not provide up-to-date install instructions for IIS, 0.11 will be distributed without any. If someone volunteers, announce it (so we avoid duplicate work), and take http://purl.org/wiki/moin/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnWin32 as a template for your own description. Ciao, J?rgen From brian at dorseys.org Mon Feb 25 17:18:04 2002 From: brian at dorseys.org (Brian Dorsey) Date: Mon Feb 25 17:18:04 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] 0.11 and IIS In-Reply-To: ; from jh@web.de on Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:12:14AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20020225172026.A13107@dorseys.org> On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 02:12:14AM +0100, Juergen Hermann wrote: > If someone does not provide up-to-date install instructions for IIS, > 0.11 will be distributed without any. > > If someone volunteers, announce it (so we avoid duplicate work), and > take > > http://purl.org/wiki/moin/HelpOnInstalling_2fApacheOnWin32 > > as a template for your own description. > I'm no expert, but I've gotten MoinMoin running on a couple of win32 boxes. I'll get the basics up and we can fill in (and fix my misconceptions, probably) from there. -Brian From wacl at gmx.net Wed Feb 27 00:47:03 2002 From: wacl at gmx.net (wacl at gmx.net) Date: Wed Feb 27 00:47:03 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for ISP with Python/MoinMoin Message-ID: <12774.1014799582@www5.gmx.net> Hi, I would like to set up a MoinMoin wiki to follow my genealogical / family tree. I think the wiki concept is a cheap and convenient way for such a task. Would you recommend to me some sites / ISPs, which offer Python (possibly also MoinMoin) for CGI? It should not cost too much! Special wish (but really not mandatory): possibility for access restriction (e.g. Apache like), because I don't want to make the wiki public. Regards, Janusz Waclawczyk It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. Harry S. Truman -- GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. http://www.gmx.net From trsjandrews at yahoo.com.au Thu Feb 28 02:37:02 2002 From: trsjandrews at yahoo.com.au (=?iso-8859-1?q?steph=20andrews?=) Date: Thu Feb 28 02:37:02 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] newbie blues Message-ID: <20020228103430.37751.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I've just had a go at installing moin-0.10 on a win98 box with Apache1.3.3 and Python2.1.1 and have a few questions and problems. 1. The 'install' file tells me to stick the following into httpd.conf : Alias /wiki-moinmoin/ "C:/MoinMoin/wiki-moinmoin/", but that directory wasn't created by the installation. Should it be "c:/moin-0.10/MoinMoin/wiki-moinmoin/ or something else? A similar story exists for the contents of moin.bat 2. When I stoke up http://localhost/cgi-bin/moin.bat I get an error from Apache : "Premature end of script headers: c:/apache/cgi-bin/moin.bat" I know that moin.bat gets run and calls moin.cgi which then calls cgimain.run() as I have been able to patch some code into cgimain.py that prints to stdout (enough to display a hello world html document) Where am I going wrong? I have also tried installing the 0.11 beta with similar results. TIA tim http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. From supbernard at supersonique.net Thu Feb 28 06:17:03 2002 From: supbernard at supersonique.net (Bernard Niset) Date: Thu Feb 28 06:17:03 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] newbie blues In-Reply-To: <20020228103430.37751.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200202281442.g1SEgcQ27042@supersonique.net> The install file is incorrect or at least imprecise in the explanations it provides for the Windows install. You will have, for sure, to adapt what is specified in there with what is the reality of the install. To help you debugging you need to know that Apache outputs more information in a log file. This file is nomally the error.log file that is in the logs directory (at the place where you installed Apache). What they say to use as the 'data' directory in the config file is also incorrect. It should be '../data' and not './data'. Cheers, Bernard. steph andrews said: > Hi, > > I've just had a go at installing moin-0.10 on a win98 > box with Apache1.3.3 and Python2.1.1 and have a few > questions and problems. > > 1. The 'install' file tells me to stick the following > into httpd.conf : Alias /wiki-moinmoin/ > "C:/MoinMoin/wiki-moinmoin/", but that directory > wasn't created by the installation. Should it be > "c:/moin-0.10/MoinMoin/wiki-moinmoin/ or something > else? A similar story exists for the contents of > moin.bat > > 2. When I stoke up http://localhost/cgi-bin/moin.bat I > get an error from Apache : "Premature end of script > headers: c:/apache/cgi-bin/moin.bat" I know that > moin.bat gets run and calls moin.cgi which then calls > cgimain.run() as I have been able to patch some code > into cgimain.py that prints to stdout (enough to > display a hello world html document) > > Where am I going wrong? I have also tried installing > the 0.11 beta with similar results. > TIA > > tim > > http://movies.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Movies > - Vote for your nominees in our online Oscars pool. > > _______________________________________________ > Moin-user mailing list > Moin-user at lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/moin-user > -- From jh at web.de Thu Feb 28 10:39:06 2002 From: jh at web.de (Juergen Hermann) Date: Thu Feb 28 10:39:06 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] newbie blues In-Reply-To: <20020228103430.37751.qmail@web13807.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 28 Feb 2002 21:34:30 +1100 (EST), steph andrews wrote: >Where am I going wrong? I have also tried installing >the 0.11 beta with similar results. Try 0.11 beta 1 again, with the current install instructions at http://twistedmatrix.com/users/jh.twistd/moin/moin.cgi/HelpOnInstalling _2fApacheOnWin32 Ciao, J?rgen From louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca Thu Feb 28 17:11:08 2002 From: louis.bertrand at durhamc.on.ca (Louis Bertrand) Date: Thu Feb 28 17:11:08 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] Server timeout while saving changes Message-ID: <200203010108.g2118GcP015641@rebellion.durhamc.on.ca> Hello, I just finished setting up moin-0.11 on: OpenBSD 2.8 Python 2.0 (#3, Apr 1 2001, 06:33:02) Apache/1.3.14 http://opentech.durhamc.on.ca/cgi-bin/moin.cgi It seems to work fine except that saving changes takes so long it times out the browser (Konqueror gives up, while Netscape seems to have a longer timeout). However the editing is saved, as you can see if you hit the stop button then refresh. I see activity in the data directory log files and so on. How do I find out what the bottleneck might be? (There was nothing relevant in the users list for the last 2 months, but I'll be digging further...) Thanks --Louis -- Louis Bertrand School of Technology, Durham College Oshawa, ON, Canada +1.905.721.3111 x2468 From Janusch.Waclawczyk at icn.siemens.de Thu Feb 28 23:34:07 2002 From: Janusch.Waclawczyk at icn.siemens.de (Waclawczyk Janusch) Date: Thu Feb 28 23:34:07 2002 Subject: [Moin-user] Looking for ISP with Python/MoinMoin Message-ID: Hi, I would like to set up a MoinMoin wiki to follow my genealogical / family tree. I think the wiki concept is a cheap and convenient way for such a task. Would you recommend to me some sites / ISPs, which offer Python (possibly also MoinMoin) for CGI? It should not cost too much! Special wish (but not mandatory): possibility for access restriction (e.g. Apache like), because I don't want to make the wiki public. Regards, Janusz Waclawczyk It is amazing what you can accomplish if you do not care who gets the credit. Harry S. Truman