From jdhardy at gmail.com Mon Jan 12 12:14:51 2015 From: jdhardy at gmail.com (Jeff Hardy) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 11:14:51 +0000 Subject: [meta-sig] Python Mobile SIG Message-ID: This is motivated by a python-ideas thread [1] regarding Python on mobile devices. During the thread a mobile-sig was proposed as it is too niche for regular python-dev discussion. It was also suggested that the SIG could operate much like distutils-sig [2] in how it serves as a development area for things that are then proposed to python-dev. I volunteer to be the initial administrator/moderator/owner of the list. = Topic = Python for mobile devices = Charter = The Mobile-SIG exists to improve the usability of Python on mobile devices, as mobile platforms have their own unique requirements and constraints. There are two goals: * To collaborate on porting CPython to mobile platforms and ensure that other Python implementations (i.e. Jython, IronPython) present much the same environment as CPython when running on mobile devices. * To collaborate on the design of modules for mobile-centric features such as cameras, GPS, accelerometers, and other sensors to ensure cross-platform and cross-implementation compatibility. The intent is to work on mobile-centric features in this group before proposal to python-dev, similar to how the distutils-sig operates. Questions of how to use Python on mobile platforms currently are considered off-topic as there are many other existing places for those questions. - Jeff [1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2014-December/030490.html [2] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-ideas/2015-January/030605.html From ethan at stoneleaf.us Mon Jan 12 16:28:15 2015 From: ethan at stoneleaf.us (Ethan Furman) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 07:28:15 -0800 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig Message-ID: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> +1 for creating a mobile-sig mailing list. :) -- ~Ethan~ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 819 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: From barry at python.org Tue Jan 27 15:59:18 2015 From: barry at python.org (Barry Warsaw) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 09:59:18 -0500 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: >I sent in a proposal to the list to create a mobile-sig ( >https://mail.python.org/pipermail/meta-sig/2015-January/001412.html) but >there hasn't been any follow up yet. What are the next steps to actually >get it created if there's support for it? I think a mobile-sig is a great idea. Our bar for creating mailing lists is pretty low if they seem on-topic, which IMHO this does. CC'ing Captain Postmaster to make it so. :) Cheers, -Barry -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de Tue Jan 27 16:06:16 2015 From: Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de (Ralf Hildebrandt) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 16:06:16 +0100 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> Message-ID: <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> * Barry Warsaw : > On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > > >I sent in a proposal to the list to create a mobile-sig ( > >https://mail.python.org/pipermail/meta-sig/2015-January/001412.html) but > >there hasn't been any follow up yet. What are the next steps to actually > >get it created if there's support for it? > > I think a mobile-sig is a great idea. Our bar for creating mailing lists is > pretty low if they seem on-topic, which IMHO this does. > > CC'ing Captain Postmaster to make it so. :) I created the list. -- Ralf Hildebrandt Charite Universit?tsmedizin Berlin ralf.hildebrandt at charite.de Campus Benjamin Franklin http://www.charite.de Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin Gesch?ftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155 From russell at keith-magee.com Tue Jan 13 01:43:45 2015 From: russell at keith-magee.com (Russell Keith-Magee) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2015 08:43:45 +0800 Subject: [meta-sig] Python Mobile SIG Message-ID: Adding my +1 for a Python mobile sig. I'm interested in getting mobile platform build support into Python core (as part of work on the Toga widget toolkit); any coordination on hardware support is also of interest to me. Yours, Russell Keith-Magee %-) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From russell at keith-magee.com Wed Jan 28 02:12:38 2015 From: russell at keith-magee.com (Russell Keith-Magee) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:12:38 +0800 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> Message-ID: Since the links on python.org aren't there yet, here's the subscription management page so people can sign up. https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-sig Yours, Russ Magee %-) On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt < Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de> wrote: > * Barry Warsaw : > > On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > > > > >I sent in a proposal to the list to create a mobile-sig ( > > >https://mail.python.org/pipermail/meta-sig/2015-January/001412.html) > but > > >there hasn't been any follow up yet. What are the next steps to actually > > >get it created if there's support for it? > > > > I think a mobile-sig is a great idea. Our bar for creating mailing > lists is > > pretty low if they seem on-topic, which IMHO this does. > > > > CC'ing Captain Postmaster to make it so. :) > > I created the list. > > -- > Ralf Hildebrandt Charite Universit?tsmedizin Berlin > ralf.hildebrandt at charite.de Campus Benjamin Franklin > http://www.charite.de Hindenburgdamm 30, 12203 Berlin > Gesch?ftsbereich IT, Abt. Netzwerk fon: +49-30-450.570.155 > _______________________________________________ > Meta-sig maillist - Meta-sig at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/meta-sig > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jdhardy at gmail.com Wed Jan 28 17:58:47 2015 From: jdhardy at gmail.com (Jeff Hardy) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:58:47 +0000 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Russell Keith-Magee < russell at keith-magee.com> wrote: > > Since the links on python.org aren't there yet, here's the subscription > management page so people can sign up. > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-sig > Does anyone know who's responsible for getting the website updated to include this? Once that's done I'll post an announcement on python-announce and other places. - Jeff > > > Yours, > Russ Magee %-) > > > On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt < > Ralf.Hildebrandt at charite.de> wrote: > >> * Barry Warsaw : >> > On Jan 27, 2015, at 11:44 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: >> > >> > >I sent in a proposal to the list to create a mobile-sig ( >> > >https://mail.python.org/pipermail/meta-sig/2015-January/001412.html) >> but >> > >there hasn't been any follow up yet. What are the next steps to >> actually >> > >get it created if there's support for it? >> > >> > I think a mobile-sig is a great idea. 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URL: From russell at keith-magee.com Thu Jan 29 01:15:37 2015 From: russell at keith-magee.com (Russell Keith-Magee) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:15:37 +0800 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> Message-ID: Yes, it's on the MailMan homepage, but it's not on the list of SIGs on the Python site itself: https://www.python.org/community/sigs/ I couldn't find an obvious link to the MailMan home page, either. Yours, Russ Magee %-) On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:04 AM, Skip Montanaro wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Jeff Hardy wrote: > >> Does anyone know who's responsible for getting the website updated to >> include this? Once that's done I'll post an announcement on python-announce >> and other places. > > > I think it's automagic. I see it on this page: > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > Skip > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aahz at pythoncraft.com Thu Jan 29 14:38:55 2015 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 05:38:55 -0800 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> Message-ID: <20150129133855.GA21878@panix.com> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, Jeff Hardy wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Russell Keith-Magee < > russell at keith-magee.com> wrote: >> >> Since the links on python.org aren't there yet, here's the subscription >> management page so people can sign up. >> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-sig > > Does anyone know who's responsible for getting the website updated to > include this? Once that's done I'll post an announcement on python-announce > and other places. The Mailman update is handled by the list owner, you need to make the list public (under privacy options, subscription rules, "advertise this list"). The updating of the SIG page on the website should theoretically be handled by sending e-mail to webmaster at python.org -- but I have no idea whether it will have any effect given the problems with the website maintenance. -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Member of the Groucho Marx Fan Club From aahz at pythoncraft.com Thu Jan 29 14:39:59 2015 From: aahz at pythoncraft.com (Aahz) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 05:39:59 -0800 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> Message-ID: <20150129133959.GB21878@panix.com> On Thu, Jan 29, 2015, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > Yes, it's on the MailMan homepage, but it's not on the list of SIGs on the > Python site itself: > > https://www.python.org/community/sigs/ > > I couldn't find an obvious link to the MailMan home page, either. http://mail.python.org/ ;-) -- Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com) <*> http://www.pythoncraft.com/ Member of the Groucho Marx Fan Club From jdhardy at gmail.com Thu Jan 29 18:12:37 2015 From: jdhardy at gmail.com (Jeff Hardy) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 17:12:37 +0000 Subject: [meta-sig] mobile-sig In-Reply-To: <20150129133855.GA21878@panix.com> References: <54B3E80F.3010308@stoneleaf.us> <20150112103202.3a574d61@anarchist.wooz.org> <20150127095918.35115b65@limelight.wooz.org> <20150127150616.GS21001@charite.de> <20150129133855.GA21878@panix.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Aahz wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015, Jeff Hardy wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 1:12 AM, Russell Keith-Magee < > > russell at keith-magee.com> wrote: > >> > >> Since the links on python.org aren't there yet, here's the subscription > >> management page so people can sign up. > >> > >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mobile-sig > > > > Does anyone know who's responsible for getting the website updated to > > include this? Once that's done I'll post an announcement on > python-announce > > and other places. > > The Mailman update is handled by the list owner, you need to make the > list public (under privacy options, subscription rules, "advertise this > list"). > > The updating of the SIG page on the website should theoretically be > handled by sending e-mail to webmaster at python.org -- but I have no idea > whether it will have any effect given the problems with the website > maintenance. > It's advertised already. I'll send an email to webmaster@ but if I don't hear back soon-ish I'll just advertise the list sign up page. - Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: