I vote +1 for the persistence SIG and will be very happy to see the following people and projects cooperate : ZODB from Zope CAPS from AB Strakt ?? from inQual ?? from Roeland Rengelink POD from pypod.sf.net others I probably forgot... -- Nicolas Chauvat http://www.logilab.com - "Mais oł est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)