From furnish@acl.lanl.gov Tue Sep 9 14:58:14 1997 From: furnish@acl.lanl.gov (Geoffrey Furnish) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:58:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199709091358.HAA15430@steam.acl.lanl.gov> David Ascher writes: > Uh.... > > Any reason not to officially start the plot-sig? I realize there hasn't > been much discussion on the meta-sig, but there has been a fair bit on the > matrix-sig. Whatever happened to this? The charter for plot-sig was hashed out on matrix-sig, and there has been no dissent on meta-sig. -- Geoffrey Furnish email: furnish@lanl.gov LANL CIC-19 POOMA/RadTran phone: 505-665-4529 fax: 505-665-7880 "Software complexity is an artifact of implementation." -Dan Quinlan _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US Tue Sep 9 15:29:54 1997 From: guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Guido van Rossum) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:29:54 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Sep 1997 07:58:14 MDT." <199709091358.HAA15430@steam.acl.lanl.gov> References: <199709091358.HAA15430@steam.acl.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> > > Any reason not to officially start the plot-sig? I realize there hasn't > > been much discussion on the meta-sig, but there has been a fair bit on the > > matrix-sig. > > Whatever happened to this? The charter for plot-sig was hashed out on > matrix-sig, and there has been no dissent on meta-sig. There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never posted to meta-sig. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From da@maigret.cog.brown.edu Tue Sep 9 16:23:40 1997 From: da@maigret.cog.brown.edu (David Ascher) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-ID: > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > posted to meta-sig. Sure there was, and sure it was. > # PLOT-SIG: Development of Data Plotting Solutions for Python > > """ > The purpose of this list is to develop, coddle together, adopt or > otherwise make available Python tools for plotting of scientific and > business plots of data. > > Plotting needs vary greatly depending on each user's requirements. > Some users wish to see a better API between Python and existing > plotting libraries or programs. Others would rather see a new > framework which maximally leverages the OOP and dynamic strengths of > Python, at the cost of reinventing a few wheels. Both strategies will > be entertained by the SIG, with individual members contributing to > projects they wish to see furthered. > > Principles guiding the development of all software will include: > > * Ease of use. > * Integration with other Python packages (NumPy, PIL, etc.). > * Quality of the software. > * Quality of the output. > > One possible goal for the API project is to develop a package- > independent API for plots, which would produce reasonably > similar results regardless of the plotting package used as a backend > (PLPlot, Gist/Yorick, Gnuplot, etc.), in the same spirit as the > interface defined by the DB-SIG. Package-specific extensions could > naturally be provided as well. > > The goals for the new framework need to be further specified by the > SIG, but include: > > * Complete Python Control. > * Extensibility/Customizability. > * High quality rendering both on screen and paper. > * Portability (at least UNIX/X11 and Win32, MacOS if feasible). > * Stealing good ideas others have had. > * Interactivity > > The SIG is open, and membership is expected to include folks who wish > to contribute to the development efforts, folks who have lots of > expertise they wish to share, and novice users who wish to share > their lists of requirements, questions about the available software, > etc. > """ > For some reason, it wasn't archived, but a discussion about it was... --david _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From klm@python.org Tue Sep 9 17:31:05 1997 From: klm@python.org (Ken Manheimer) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, David Ascher wrote: > Guido wrote: > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > posted to meta-sig. > > Sure there was, and sure it was. True. > For some reason, it wasn't archived, but a discussion about it was... Looking back, the discussion in the meta-sig seems pretty minimal. It would probably suffice if you could get at least a few people from wherever (ie, the matrix-sig) to post something to the meta sig saying they not only want a plot-sig, but would participate actively in the project for the sig - that way we'll know that the project has life. Once that is done we'll probably have to wait until barry gets back (next tuesday) to set up the infrastructure. I might have time to dive in and do it before then, but i'm sorry to say that i seriously doubt it. Ken _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US Tue Sep 9 17:59:27 1997 From: guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Guido van Rossum) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 12:59:27 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Sep 1997 11:23:40 EDT." References: Message-ID: <199709091659.MAA22103@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > posted to meta-sig. > > Sure there was, and sure it was. OK, sorry. Apparently when it wasn't archived it was also withheld from my mailbox :-( The charter looks focused and to the point. I'm still a bit miffed that so many recently created SIGs don't seem to be doing anything (e.g. patterns, threads), but I won't stop this one, based on the matrix sig's excellent track record. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From barrett@compass.gsfc.nasa.gov Tue Sep 9 18:53:14 1997 From: barrett@compass.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Barrett) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:53:14 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] Creating a PLOT-SIG. Definitely! Message-ID: <199709091753.NAA29320@compass.gsfc.nasa.gov> All those in favor of creating a PLOT-SIG say 'Ey': "EY!" I am willing to participate in a PLOT-SIG via suggestions, debates, and maybe even a little coding. -- Paul _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From hyoon@ptqsrv1.etsd.ml.com Tue Sep 9 19:23:11 1997 From: hyoon@ptqsrv1.etsd.ml.com (Hoon Yoon - IPT Quant) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:23:11 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig (fwd) Message-ID: <199709091823.OAA08146@ptq3.etsd> To meta-sig: Very much interested in the subject and will attempt to participate as much as possible (I don't think I can actually code). ******************************************************************* S. Hoon Yoon (Finance Quant) hoon@bigfoot.com(w) cpu@bigfoot.com(h) * Expressed opinions are often my own, but NOT my employer's. "I feel like a fugitive from the law of averages." Maudin "Miracle(n)- An instance of few standard deviations," Me ******************************************************************* ****************** Included msg below ********************************** Sender: owner-matrix-sig@python.org Content-Length: 614 If you're interested in the PLOT-SIG creation, please post a mesage to that effect on meta-sig@python.org. Then we can officially create that SIG. I don't expect much to happen on it until after the SPAM-6, but it'd be nice if it were in place by then. It would help if folks could state in those messages that they would actively participate in such a SIG (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). --david _______________ MATRIX-SIG - SIG on Matrix Math for Python send messages to: matrix-sig@python.org administrivia to: matrix-sig-request@python.org _______________ _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From rburnham@cri-inc.com Thu Sep 11 17:25:42 1997 From: rburnham@cri-inc.com (Roger Burnham) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:25:42 -5000 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709091826.AA10584@world.std.com> I'm definitely interested... I'm at the point now where I need some convenient plotting functionality my apps. Not got much beyond pilplot, but am considering looking at BLT and/or MATLAB extensions. Would be willing to code, critique, suggest, harangue, debate, and argue. Roger Burnham Cambridge Research & Instrumentation 21 Erie Street Cambridge, MA 02139 rburnham@cri-inc.com _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From furnish@acl.lanl.gov Tue Sep 9 20:32:29 1997 From: furnish@acl.lanl.gov (Geoffrey Furnish) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: References: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-ID: <199709091932.NAA16221@steam.acl.lanl.gov> David Ascher writes: > > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > posted to meta-sig. > > Sure there was, and sure it was. That's right. Either somebody needs to start dissenting, or this list should be created. As far as I can tell, David has fully followed protocol on this one. -- Geoffrey Furnish email: furnish@lanl.gov LANL CIC-19 POOMA/RadTran phone: 505-665-4529 fax: 505-665-7880 "Software complexity is an artifact of implementation." -Dan Quinlan _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From furnish@acl.lanl.gov Tue Sep 9 20:39:20 1997 From: furnish@acl.lanl.gov (Geoffrey Furnish) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199709091939.NAA16234@steam.acl.lanl.gov> Ken Manheimer writes: > On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, David Ascher wrote: > > > Guido wrote: > > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > > posted to meta-sig. > > > > Sure there was, and sure it was. > > True. > > > For some reason, it wasn't archived, but a discussion about it was... > > Looking back, the discussion in the meta-sig seems pretty minimal. It It was discussed at nauseum on matrix-sig. > would probably suffice if you could get at least a few people from > wherever (ie, the matrix-sig) to post something to the meta sig saying > they not only want a plot-sig, but would participate actively in the > project for the sig - that way we'll know that the project has life. I am one such person with identity != David. -- Geoffrey Furnish email: furnish@lanl.gov LANL CIC-19 POOMA/RadTran phone: 505-665-4529 fax: 505-665-7880 "Software complexity is an artifact of implementation." -Dan Quinlan _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From hochberg@wwa.com Tue Sep 9 21:19:27 1997 From: hochberg@wwa.com (Timothy A. Hochberg) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:19:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [META-SIG] mail failed, returning to sender (fwd) Message-ID: I hereby do officially, voluntarily and without coercion lend my support to the creation of a PLOT-SIG. If said SIG attempt to aid the furtherance of the SIG's charter through coding and arguing and critiquing and arguing and suggesting and arguing and haranguing and arguing and debating and arguing and arguing. Blah blah etc. blah. -- ____ /im (I don't know what got into me. Really). _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From managan@llnl.gov Wed Sep 10 00:15:42 1997 From: managan@llnl.gov (Rob Managan) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:15:42 -0700 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG Message-ID: I am interested in this proposed SIG. There are many good ideas to discuss. For instance, how about a Python version of the HDF viewer/editor that NCSA jsut released in Java. --$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$ Rob Managan managan@llnl.gov 2115 Westbrook Lane Livermore, CA 94550 Phone 510-423-0903 FAX 510-423-5804 _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From nigel@maths.su.oz.au Wed Sep 10 00:54:26 1997 From: nigel@maths.su.oz.au (Nigel O'Brian) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:54:26 +1000 (EST) Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709092354.JAA18666@milan.maths.su.oz.au> I'm writing to support the creation of PLOT-SIG. I'm a heavy user of Numerical Python and the NetCDF data format. I've gone through many plotting packages without finding one that that is really convenient and versatile across the board. Pressure of time and lack of programming expertise mean I would be unlikely to contribute any code, but I would be happy to discuss and test. I'd be especially interested in a 3-D facility, perhaps based on OpenGL and with some of the features of the present XLISP-STAT or Mathematica. There are already some nice demos that come with the Python OpenGL interface. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel O'Brian obrian_n@maths.usyd.edu.au School of Mathematics Ph: (02)-9351-4083 University of Sydney FAX: (02)-9351-4534 Sydney NSW 2006, Australia _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From caves@yorvic.york.ac.uk Wed Sep 10 09:16:45 1997 From: caves@yorvic.york.ac.uk (Leo Caves) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:16:45 +0100 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig Message-ID: <9709100916.ZM1936@pingu> I am interested in the creation of such a SIG. My contribution will be restricted to criticism, debate and the occasional harrangue. Many thanks, Leo Caves _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From viennet@ura1507.univ-paris13.fr Wed Sep 10 09:22:31 1997 From: viennet@ura1507.univ-paris13.fr (viennet@ura1507.univ-paris13.fr) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:22:31 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709100822.KAA17054@sapporo.lip6.fr> Yes, I'm interested in the creation of a PLOT-SIG. I'm ready to read, critique, and may be suggest... Emmanuel -- Emmanuel Viennet: LIPN - Institut Galilee - Universite Paris-Nord 93430 Villetaneuse - France _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From groma@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu Wed Sep 10 09:19:46 1997 From: groma@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu (Geza I. Groma) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:19:46 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG Message-ID: I vote for the creation of this SIG. Geza Groma Institute of Biophysics, Biological Research Centre Szeged, Hungary _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From Daniel.Michelson@smhi.se Wed Sep 10 09:58:02 1997 From: Daniel.Michelson@smhi.se (Daniel Michelson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:58:02 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig Message-ID: <34166119.59E2@smhi.se> Hej, To paraphrase others: Not only do I want a plot-sig, but I would participate actively in the project for the sig (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). best, -d +------------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | | Daniel B. Michelson | | /\ |\ /| | | | | Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute| | \ | \/ | |__| | | S-601 76 Norrk=F6ping, Sweden |= | \ | | | | | | Telephone: +46 11 - 15 84 94 | | \/ | | | | | | Telefax: +46 11 - 17 02 07 | | | Internet: Daniel.Michelson@smhi.se | +------------------+--------------------------------------------------+ _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From Hakan.Bolin@smhi.se Wed Sep 10 10:17:31 1997 From: Hakan.Bolin@smhi.se (Hekan Bolin) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:17:31 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] about a plot-sig Message-ID: <9709100917.AA24869@ax004.smhi.se> About a plot-sig: I find it interesting, and I hope to be able to participate actively in the project for the sig. -- Haakan Bolin _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From adybbroe@smhi.se Wed Sep 10 11:28:10 1997 From: adybbroe@smhi.se (Adam Dybbroe) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:28:10 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig Message-ID: <199709101028.MAA23746@sun16.smhi.se> Hello, Not only do I want a plot-sig, but I would participate actively in the project for the sig (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). Adam -------------------------------------------------- Adam Dybbroe Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute S-601 76 Norrkoeping Phone (direct): +46 11 15 83 29 Fax: +46 11 17 02 07/08 e-mail: adam.dybbroe@smhi.se -------------------------------------------------- _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From hinsen@ibs.ibs.fr Thu Sep 11 13:15:11 1997 From: hinsen@ibs.ibs.fr (Konrad Hinsen) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:15:11 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709111215.OAA25340@lmspc1.ibs.fr> Count me in for creating the PLOT-SIG. I'll participate as much as I can, certainly in discussions, and maybe even in coding. Konrad. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Konrad Hinsen | E-Mail: hinsen@ibs.ibs.fr Laboratoire de Dynamique Moleculaire | Tel.: +33-4.76.88.99.28 Institut de Biologie Structurale | Fax: +33-4.76.88.54.94 41, av. des Martyrs | Deutsch/Esperanto/English/ 38027 Grenoble Cedex 1, France | Nederlands/Francais ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From jhauser@ifm.uni-kiel.de Thu Sep 11 14:04:26 1997 From: jhauser@ifm.uni-kiel.de (Janko Hauser) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:04:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: I'm very interested in this SIG and will as much as my programming skills permit participate in this SIG. And I really have a big wish-list, also promised :-) __Janko _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From bwarsaw@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Barry A. Warsaw) Sun Sep 14 04:27:03 1997 From: bwarsaw@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Barry A. Warsaw) (Barry A. Warsaw) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:27:03 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig References: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-ID: <199709140327.XAA16924@anthem.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Looking through the meta-sig archive, the first mention of a plot-sig charter I see Geoffrey's 30-Jul-1997 forward of a David A. msg. I also see a correspondance that David sent to me about some administrivia on the plot-sig. I guess this wasn't enough to put it on my radar screen. Apologies. I'll create the sig infrastructure on Monday. On the apparent inactivity of some sigs: I wonder if it isn't time to impose an IETF-like self-destruct mechanism on SIGs? E.g. after some length of time (a year??) a SIG automatically gets decommissioned, unless there is a re-post of a new charter, voting, etc. -B _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From Mats.Moberg@smhi.se Mon Sep 15 07:48:37 1997 From: Mats.Moberg@smhi.se (Mats Moberg) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:48:37 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] Want plot-sig! Message-ID: <341CDA45.6201@smhi.se> Not only do I want a plot-sig, but I would participate actively in the project for the sig (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). Regards, -- Mats Moberg, Research and Development Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute - SMHI - http://www.smhi.se E-MAIL: Mats.Moberg@smhi.se PHONE: +46 11 158318 FAX: +46 11 170207 POST: SMHI, SE-601 76 Norrkoping, Sweden _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca Tue Sep 16 21:29:03 1997 From: papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [META-SIG] Re: Type Checking (was Re: Selling Python in the future) In-Reply-To: from "Bill Janssen" at Sep 16, 97 12:06:09 pm Message-ID: <199709162029.QAA13330@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> > Typing SIG, anyone? Steve and I have talked about this before (adding > optional typing to Python), but it never got to the top of either of our > lists. Yes please! Paul Prescod _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From jody@sccsi.com Tue Sep 16 21:49:10 1997 From: jody@sccsi.com (Jody Winston) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:49:10 -0500 Subject: [META-SIG] Re: Type Checking (was Re: Selling Python in the future) In-Reply-To: <199709162029.QAA13330@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> (message from Paul Prescod on Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT)) Message-ID: <199709162049.PAA24536@friday.sccsi.com> > Typing SIG, anyone? Steve and I have talked about this before (adding > optional typing to Python), but it never got to the top of either of our > lists. I would rather have an Interface SIG over a Typing SIG. I'm currently using ILU's ISL for my interface. Jody _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From janssen@parc.xerox.com Tue Sep 16 22:50:01 1997 From: janssen@parc.xerox.com (Bill Janssen) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 14:50:01 PDT Subject: [META-SIG] Re: Type Checking (was Re: Selling Python in the future) In-Reply-To: <199709162049.PAA24536@friday.sccsi.com> References: <199709162049.PAA24536@friday.sccsi.com> Message-ID: Excerpts from direct: 16-Sep-97 Re: [META-SIG] Re: Type Che.. Jody Winston@sccsi.com (270) > I would rather have an Interface SIG over a Typing SIG. I'm currently > using ILU's ISL for my interface. Which is why there's no need for an Interface SIG :-). Bill _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From furnish@acl.lanl.gov Tue Sep 9 14:58:14 1997 From: furnish@acl.lanl.gov (Geoffrey Furnish) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 07:58:14 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199709091358.HAA15430@steam.acl.lanl.gov> David Ascher writes: > Uh.... > > Any reason not to officially start the plot-sig? I realize there hasn't > been much discussion on the meta-sig, but there has been a fair bit on the > matrix-sig. Whatever happened to this? The charter for plot-sig was hashed out on matrix-sig, and there has been no dissent on meta-sig. -- Geoffrey Furnish email: furnish@lanl.gov LANL CIC-19 POOMA/RadTran phone: 505-665-4529 fax: 505-665-7880 "Software complexity is an artifact of implementation." -Dan Quinlan _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US Tue Sep 9 15:29:54 1997 From: guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Guido van Rossum) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 10:29:54 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Sep 1997 07:58:14 MDT." <199709091358.HAA15430@steam.acl.lanl.gov> References: <199709091358.HAA15430@steam.acl.lanl.gov> Message-ID: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> > > Any reason not to officially start the plot-sig? I realize there hasn't > > been much discussion on the meta-sig, but there has been a fair bit on the > > matrix-sig. > > Whatever happened to this? The charter for plot-sig was hashed out on > matrix-sig, and there has been no dissent on meta-sig. There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never posted to meta-sig. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From da@maigret.cog.brown.edu Tue Sep 9 16:23:40 1997 From: da@maigret.cog.brown.edu (David Ascher) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 11:23:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-ID: > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > posted to meta-sig. Sure there was, and sure it was. > # PLOT-SIG: Development of Data Plotting Solutions for Python > > """ > The purpose of this list is to develop, coddle together, adopt or > otherwise make available Python tools for plotting of scientific and > business plots of data. > > Plotting needs vary greatly depending on each user's requirements. > Some users wish to see a better API between Python and existing > plotting libraries or programs. Others would rather see a new > framework which maximally leverages the OOP and dynamic strengths of > Python, at the cost of reinventing a few wheels. Both strategies will > be entertained by the SIG, with individual members contributing to > projects they wish to see furthered. > > Principles guiding the development of all software will include: > > * Ease of use. > * Integration with other Python packages (NumPy, PIL, etc.). > * Quality of the software. > * Quality of the output. > > One possible goal for the API project is to develop a package- > independent API for plots, which would produce reasonably > similar results regardless of the plotting package used as a backend > (PLPlot, Gist/Yorick, Gnuplot, etc.), in the same spirit as the > interface defined by the DB-SIG. Package-specific extensions could > naturally be provided as well. > > The goals for the new framework need to be further specified by the > SIG, but include: > > * Complete Python Control. > * Extensibility/Customizability. > * High quality rendering both on screen and paper. > * Portability (at least UNIX/X11 and Win32, MacOS if feasible). > * Stealing good ideas others have had. > * Interactivity > > The SIG is open, and membership is expected to include folks who wish > to contribute to the development efforts, folks who have lots of > expertise they wish to share, and novice users who wish to share > their lists of requirements, questions about the available software, > etc. > """ > For some reason, it wasn't archived, but a discussion about it was... --david _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From klm@python.org Tue Sep 9 17:31:05 1997 From: klm@python.org (Ken Manheimer) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 12:31:05 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, David Ascher wrote: > Guido wrote: > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > posted to meta-sig. > > Sure there was, and sure it was. True. > For some reason, it wasn't archived, but a discussion about it was... Looking back, the discussion in the meta-sig seems pretty minimal. It would probably suffice if you could get at least a few people from wherever (ie, the matrix-sig) to post something to the meta sig saying they not only want a plot-sig, but would participate actively in the project for the sig - that way we'll know that the project has life. Once that is done we'll probably have to wait until barry gets back (next tuesday) to set up the infrastructure. I might have time to dive in and do it before then, but i'm sorry to say that i seriously doubt it. Ken _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US Tue Sep 9 17:59:27 1997 From: guido@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Guido van Rossum) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 1997 12:59:27 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 09 Sep 1997 11:23:40 EDT." References: Message-ID: <199709091659.MAA22103@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > posted to meta-sig. > > Sure there was, and sure it was. OK, sorry. Apparently when it wasn't archived it was also withheld from my mailbox :-( The charter looks focused and to the point. I'm still a bit miffed that so many recently created SIGs don't seem to be doing anything (e.g. patterns, threads), but I won't stop this one, based on the matrix sig's excellent track record. --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/) _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From barrett@compass.gsfc.nasa.gov Tue Sep 9 18:53:14 1997 From: barrett@compass.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Barrett) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:53:14 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] Creating a PLOT-SIG. Definitely! Message-ID: <199709091753.NAA29320@compass.gsfc.nasa.gov> All those in favor of creating a PLOT-SIG say 'Ey': "EY!" I am willing to participate in a PLOT-SIG via suggestions, debates, and maybe even a little coding. -- Paul _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From hyoon@ptqsrv1.etsd.ml.com Tue Sep 9 19:23:11 1997 From: hyoon@ptqsrv1.etsd.ml.com (Hoon Yoon - IPT Quant) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:23:11 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig (fwd) Message-ID: <199709091823.OAA08146@ptq3.etsd> To meta-sig: Very much interested in the subject and will attempt to participate as much as possible (I don't think I can actually code). ******************************************************************* S. Hoon Yoon (Finance Quant) hoon@bigfoot.com(w) cpu@bigfoot.com(h) * Expressed opinions are often my own, but NOT my employer's. "I feel like a fugitive from the law of averages." Maudin "Miracle(n)- An instance of few standard deviations," Me ******************************************************************* ****************** Included msg below ********************************** Sender: owner-matrix-sig@python.org Content-Length: 614 If you're interested in the PLOT-SIG creation, please post a mesage to that effect on meta-sig@python.org. Then we can officially create that SIG. I don't expect much to happen on it until after the SPAM-6, but it'd be nice if it were in place by then. It would help if folks could state in those messages that they would actively participate in such a SIG (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). --david _______________ MATRIX-SIG - SIG on Matrix Math for Python send messages to: matrix-sig@python.org administrivia to: matrix-sig-request@python.org _______________ _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From rburnham@cri-inc.com Thu Sep 11 17:25:42 1997 From: rburnham@cri-inc.com (Roger Burnham) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 14:25:42 -5000 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709091826.AA10584@world.std.com> I'm definitely interested... I'm at the point now where I need some convenient plotting functionality my apps. Not got much beyond pilplot, but am considering looking at BLT and/or MATLAB extensions. Would be willing to code, critique, suggest, harangue, debate, and argue. Roger Burnham Cambridge Research & Instrumentation 21 Erie Street Cambridge, MA 02139 rburnham@cri-inc.com _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From furnish@acl.lanl.gov Tue Sep 9 20:32:29 1997 From: furnish@acl.lanl.gov (Geoffrey Furnish) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:32:29 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: References: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-ID: <199709091932.NAA16221@steam.acl.lanl.gov> David Ascher writes: > > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > posted to meta-sig. > > Sure there was, and sure it was. That's right. Either somebody needs to start dissenting, or this list should be created. As far as I can tell, David has fully followed protocol on this one. -- Geoffrey Furnish email: furnish@lanl.gov LANL CIC-19 POOMA/RadTran phone: 505-665-4529 fax: 505-665-7880 "Software complexity is an artifact of implementation." -Dan Quinlan _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From furnish@acl.lanl.gov Tue Sep 9 20:39:20 1997 From: furnish@acl.lanl.gov (Geoffrey Furnish) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 13:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199709091939.NAA16234@steam.acl.lanl.gov> Ken Manheimer writes: > On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, David Ascher wrote: > > > Guido wrote: > > > There was no consent, either -- as far as I know the charter was never > > > posted to meta-sig. > > > > Sure there was, and sure it was. > > True. > > > For some reason, it wasn't archived, but a discussion about it was... > > Looking back, the discussion in the meta-sig seems pretty minimal. It It was discussed at nauseum on matrix-sig. > would probably suffice if you could get at least a few people from > wherever (ie, the matrix-sig) to post something to the meta sig saying > they not only want a plot-sig, but would participate actively in the > project for the sig - that way we'll know that the project has life. I am one such person with identity != David. -- Geoffrey Furnish email: furnish@lanl.gov LANL CIC-19 POOMA/RadTran phone: 505-665-4529 fax: 505-665-7880 "Software complexity is an artifact of implementation." -Dan Quinlan _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From hochberg@wwa.com Tue Sep 9 21:19:27 1997 From: hochberg@wwa.com (Timothy A. Hochberg) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 15:19:27 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [META-SIG] mail failed, returning to sender (fwd) Message-ID: I hereby do officially, voluntarily and without coercion lend my support to the creation of a PLOT-SIG. If said SIG attempt to aid the furtherance of the SIG's charter through coding and arguing and critiquing and arguing and suggesting and arguing and haranguing and arguing and debating and arguing and arguing. Blah blah etc. blah. -- ____ /im (I don't know what got into me. Really). _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From managan@llnl.gov Wed Sep 10 00:15:42 1997 From: managan@llnl.gov (Rob Managan) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 16:15:42 -0700 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG Message-ID: I am interested in this proposed SIG. There are many good ideas to discuss. For instance, how about a Python version of the HDF viewer/editor that NCSA jsut released in Java. --$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$--$ Rob Managan managan@llnl.gov 2115 Westbrook Lane Livermore, CA 94550 Phone 510-423-0903 FAX 510-423-5804 _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From nigel@maths.su.oz.au Wed Sep 10 00:54:26 1997 From: nigel@maths.su.oz.au (Nigel O'Brian) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:54:26 +1000 (EST) Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709092354.JAA18666@milan.maths.su.oz.au> I'm writing to support the creation of PLOT-SIG. I'm a heavy user of Numerical Python and the NetCDF data format. I've gone through many plotting packages without finding one that that is really convenient and versatile across the board. Pressure of time and lack of programming expertise mean I would be unlikely to contribute any code, but I would be happy to discuss and test. I'd be especially interested in a 3-D facility, perhaps based on OpenGL and with some of the features of the present XLISP-STAT or Mathematica. There are already some nice demos that come with the Python OpenGL interface. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel O'Brian obrian_n@maths.usyd.edu.au School of Mathematics Ph: (02)-9351-4083 University of Sydney FAX: (02)-9351-4534 Sydney NSW 2006, Australia _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From caves@yorvic.york.ac.uk Wed Sep 10 09:16:45 1997 From: caves@yorvic.york.ac.uk (Leo Caves) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 09:16:45 +0100 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig Message-ID: <9709100916.ZM1936@pingu> I am interested in the creation of such a SIG. My contribution will be restricted to criticism, debate and the occasional harrangue. Many thanks, Leo Caves _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From viennet@ura1507.univ-paris13.fr Wed Sep 10 09:22:31 1997 From: viennet@ura1507.univ-paris13.fr (viennet@ura1507.univ-paris13.fr) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:22:31 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709100822.KAA17054@sapporo.lip6.fr> Yes, I'm interested in the creation of a PLOT-SIG. I'm ready to read, critique, and may be suggest... Emmanuel -- Emmanuel Viennet: LIPN - Institut Galilee - Universite Paris-Nord 93430 Villetaneuse - France _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From groma@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu Wed Sep 10 09:19:46 1997 From: groma@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu (Geza I. Groma) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:19:46 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG Message-ID: I vote for the creation of this SIG. Geza Groma Institute of Biophysics, Biological Research Centre Szeged, Hungary _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From Daniel.Michelson@smhi.se Wed Sep 10 09:58:02 1997 From: Daniel.Michelson@smhi.se (Daniel Michelson) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 10:58:02 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig Message-ID: <34166119.59E2@smhi.se> Hej, To paraphrase others: Not only do I want a plot-sig, but I would participate actively in the project for the sig (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). best, -d +------------------+--------------------------------------------------+ | | Daniel B. Michelson | | /\ |\ /| | | | | Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute| | \ | \/ | |__| | | S-601 76 Norrk=F6ping, Sweden |= | \ | | | | | | Telephone: +46 11 - 15 84 94 | | \/ | | | | | | Telefax: +46 11 - 17 02 07 | | | Internet: Daniel.Michelson@smhi.se | +------------------+--------------------------------------------------+ _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From Hakan.Bolin@smhi.se Wed Sep 10 10:17:31 1997 From: Hakan.Bolin@smhi.se (Hekan Bolin) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 11:17:31 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] about a plot-sig Message-ID: <9709100917.AA24869@ax004.smhi.se> About a plot-sig: I find it interesting, and I hope to be able to participate actively in the project for the sig. -- Haakan Bolin _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From adybbroe@smhi.se Wed Sep 10 11:28:10 1997 From: adybbroe@smhi.se (Adam Dybbroe) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:28:10 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig Message-ID: <199709101028.MAA23746@sun16.smhi.se> Hello, Not only do I want a plot-sig, but I would participate actively in the project for the sig (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). Adam -------------------------------------------------- Adam Dybbroe Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute S-601 76 Norrkoeping Phone (direct): +46 11 15 83 29 Fax: +46 11 17 02 07/08 e-mail: adam.dybbroe@smhi.se -------------------------------------------------- _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From hinsen@ibs.ibs.fr Thu Sep 11 13:15:11 1997 From: hinsen@ibs.ibs.fr (Konrad Hinsen) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 14:15:11 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: <199709111215.OAA25340@lmspc1.ibs.fr> Count me in for creating the PLOT-SIG. I'll participate as much as I can, certainly in discussions, and maybe even in coding. Konrad. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Konrad Hinsen | E-Mail: hinsen@ibs.ibs.fr Laboratoire de Dynamique Moleculaire | Tel.: +33-4.76.88.99.28 Institut de Biologie Structurale | Fax: +33-4.76.88.54.94 41, av. des Martyrs | Deutsch/Esperanto/English/ 38027 Grenoble Cedex 1, France | Nederlands/Francais ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From jhauser@ifm.uni-kiel.de Thu Sep 11 14:04:26 1997 From: jhauser@ifm.uni-kiel.de (Janko Hauser) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 15:04:26 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [META-SIG] PLOT-SIG creation Message-ID: I'm very interested in this SIG and will as much as my programming skills permit participate in this SIG. And I really have a big wish-list, also promised :-) __Janko _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From bwarsaw@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Barry A. Warsaw) Sun Sep 14 04:27:03 1997 From: bwarsaw@CNRI.Reston.Va.US (Barry A. Warsaw) (Barry A. Warsaw) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 1997 23:27:03 -0400 Subject: [META-SIG] plot-sig References: <199709091429.KAA21413@eric.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Message-ID: <199709140327.XAA16924@anthem.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> Looking through the meta-sig archive, the first mention of a plot-sig charter I see Geoffrey's 30-Jul-1997 forward of a David A. msg. I also see a correspondance that David sent to me about some administrivia on the plot-sig. I guess this wasn't enough to put it on my radar screen. Apologies. I'll create the sig infrastructure on Monday. On the apparent inactivity of some sigs: I wonder if it isn't time to impose an IETF-like self-destruct mechanism on SIGs? E.g. after some length of time (a year??) a SIG automatically gets decommissioned, unless there is a re-post of a new charter, voting, etc. -B _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From Mats.Moberg@smhi.se Mon Sep 15 07:48:37 1997 From: Mats.Moberg@smhi.se (Mats Moberg) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 08:48:37 +0200 Subject: [META-SIG] Want plot-sig! Message-ID: <341CDA45.6201@smhi.se> Not only do I want a plot-sig, but I would participate actively in the project for the sig (i.e. if not code, then at least critique, suggest, harangue, debate, argue). Regards, -- Mats Moberg, Research and Development Swedish Meteorological and Hydrological Institute - SMHI - http://www.smhi.se E-MAIL: Mats.Moberg@smhi.se PHONE: +46 11 158318 FAX: +46 11 170207 POST: SMHI, SE-601 76 Norrkoping, Sweden _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca Tue Sep 16 21:29:03 1997 From: papresco@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [META-SIG] Re: Type Checking (was Re: Selling Python in the future) In-Reply-To: from "Bill Janssen" at Sep 16, 97 12:06:09 pm Message-ID: <199709162029.QAA13330@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> > Typing SIG, anyone? Steve and I have talked about this before (adding > optional typing to Python), but it never got to the top of either of our > lists. Yes please! Paul Prescod _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From jody@sccsi.com Tue Sep 16 21:49:10 1997 From: jody@sccsi.com (Jody Winston) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 15:49:10 -0500 Subject: [META-SIG] Re: Type Checking (was Re: Selling Python in the future) In-Reply-To: <199709162029.QAA13330@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca> (message from Paul Prescod on Tue, 16 Sep 1997 16:29:03 -0400 (EDT)) Message-ID: <199709162049.PAA24536@friday.sccsi.com> > Typing SIG, anyone? Steve and I have talked about this before (adding > optional typing to Python), but it never got to the top of either of our > lists. I would rather have an Interface SIG over a Typing SIG. I'm currently using ILU's ISL for my interface. Jody _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________ From janssen@parc.xerox.com Tue Sep 16 22:50:01 1997 From: janssen@parc.xerox.com (Bill Janssen) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 14:50:01 PDT Subject: [META-SIG] Re: Type Checking (was Re: Selling Python in the future) In-Reply-To: <199709162049.PAA24536@friday.sccsi.com> References: <199709162049.PAA24536@friday.sccsi.com> Message-ID: Excerpts from direct: 16-Sep-97 Re: [META-SIG] Re: Type Che.. Jody Winston@sccsi.com (270) > I would rather have an Interface SIG over a Typing SIG. I'm currently > using ILU's ISL for my interface. Which is why there's no need for an Interface SIG :-). Bill _______________ META-SIG - SIG on Python.Org SIGs and Mailing Lists send messages to: meta-sig@python.org administrivia to: meta-sig-request@python.org _______________