From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Thu Aug  2 02:42:37 2018
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 16:42:37 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
Message-ID: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>

Hi all!

I attended a dangerous goods meeting yesterday and most of the time was 
spent discussing waste.

Some contractors who can no longer ship waste to China now pay a few 
months rent in advance for a factory, stack it to the roof with waste 
and when no more can be squeezed in they disappear leaving the landlord 
to sort it out. Too often, spontaneous combustion works its magic first 
and the Fire Service has to respond.

The scientific consensus was that we need a war on waste.

I was reminded of that Mumbai documentary which showed hordes of 
children sorting through vast piles of waste extracting sellable stuff.

It occurs to me that all the consumption care in the world (today's 
world anyway) isn't going to cut the mustard. We need armies of robots 
which can learn to recognise recyclable material. They can be 
specialised, small, medium and large. They can have gas detectors, 
spectrum analysers and other sniffers and detectors to help.

Eventually I see waste mountains being broken down into more granularly 
unique substances and chemical processes used for the hard-to-extract 
stuff. In (unproven) theory some of the waste should be convertable into 
energy to recharge the robot batteries and power their collaboration 
networks.

Even if some of the recovered materials were not worth selling they 
could be stored until someone thought of a use for them. House-bricks?

I wonder if any of you inventive pyfolk think the world needs swarms of 
intelligent waste converters?

Its an idea but with a self-organising collective it might become a project!

Cheers

Mike



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From andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au  Thu Aug  2 03:07:27 2018
From: andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au (Andrew Stuart)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:07:27 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
In-Reply-To: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
References: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
Message-ID: <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>

I?d like to see the packaging industry ended - or at least stop making single use wrappers.  The core problem is not reusing waste, it?s that we manufacture an infinite amount of the stuff and every day the packaging industry (actually the garbage manufacturing industry) pours out never ending tonnage of more.  We?re drowning in garbage but still paying the packaging industry to keep making it.  Sorry that?s nothing to do with Python.




On 2 Aug 2018, at 4:42 pm, Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au> wrote:

Hi all!

I attended a dangerous goods meeting yesterday and most of the time was spent discussing waste. 

Some contractors who can no longer ship waste to China now pay a few months rent in advance for a factory, stack it to the roof with waste and when no more can be squeezed in they disappear leaving the landlord to sort it out. Too often, spontaneous combustion works its magic first and the Fire Service has to respond.

The scientific consensus was that we need a war on waste.

I was reminded of that Mumbai documentary which showed hordes of children sorting through vast piles of waste extracting sellable stuff.

It occurs to me that all the consumption care in the world (today's world anyway) isn't going to cut the mustard. We need armies of robots which can learn to recognise recyclable material. They can be specialised, small, medium and large. They can have gas detectors, spectrum analysers and other sniffers and detectors to help.

Eventually I see waste mountains being broken down into more granularly unique substances and chemical processes used for the hard-to-extract stuff. In (unproven) theory some of the waste should be convertable into energy to recharge the robot batteries and power their collaboration networks. 

Even if some of the recovered materials were not worth selling they could be stored until someone thought of a use for them. House-bricks?

I wonder if any of you inventive pyfolk think the world needs swarms of intelligent waste converters?

Its an idea but with a self-organising collective it might become a project!

Cheers

Mike



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https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug


From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Thu Aug  2 04:43:46 2018
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 18:43:46 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
In-Reply-To: <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>
References: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
 <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>
Message-ID: <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>

On 2/08/2018 5:07 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
> I?d like to see the packaging industry ended - or at least stop making single use wrappers.  The core problem is not reusing waste, it?s that we manufacture an infinite amount of the stuff and every day the packaging industry (actually the garbage manufacturing industry) pours out never ending tonnage of more.  We?re drowning in garbage but still paying the packaging industry to keep making it.  Sorry that?s nothing to do with Python.
Andrew

You may be entirely correct. However, until we get to a point where 
wrappers actually are obsolete we need to clean them up and prevent them 
from polluting.

Robots can learn to clean up for us. That is what I think it has to do 
with Python :)

Mike

>
>
>
> On 2 Aug 2018, at 4:42 pm, Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I attended a dangerous goods meeting yesterday and most of the time was spent discussing waste.
>
> Some contractors who can no longer ship waste to China now pay a few months rent in advance for a factory, stack it to the roof with waste and when no more can be squeezed in they disappear leaving the landlord to sort it out. Too often, spontaneous combustion works its magic first and the Fire Service has to respond.
>
> The scientific consensus was that we need a war on waste.
>
> I was reminded of that Mumbai documentary which showed hordes of children sorting through vast piles of waste extracting sellable stuff.
>
> It occurs to me that all the consumption care in the world (today's world anyway) isn't going to cut the mustard. We need armies of robots which can learn to recognise recyclable material. They can be specialised, small, medium and large. They can have gas detectors, spectrum analysers and other sniffers and detectors to help.
>
> Eventually I see waste mountains being broken down into more granularly unique substances and chemical processes used for the hard-to-extract stuff. In (unproven) theory some of the waste should be convertable into energy to recharge the robot batteries and power their collaboration networks.
>
> Even if some of the recovered materials were not worth selling they could be stored until someone thought of a use for them. House-bricks?
>
> I wonder if any of you inventive pyfolk think the world needs swarms of intelligent waste converters?
>
> Its an idea but with a self-organising collective it might become a project!
>
> Cheers
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
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From ed at pythoncharmers.com  Fri Aug  3 08:21:31 2018
From: ed at pythoncharmers.com (Ed Schofield)
Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:21:31 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next Melbourne Python meeting - Monday 6 August
Message-ID: <CA+8hrDh=d4oz=Bpf2dAV3i7FK3pz5MS8-s7VjYgmhq4GpMmdCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all!

Do come and join us for the next meetup of the Melbourne Python user group
on Monday evening. We've got two great talks planned:


*1. Damien George, Nick Moore, Matt Trentini: A Taste of MicroPython* (~30
minutes)

Python can be used for a vast range of tasks like web development, data
science and machine learning. With MicroPython, embedded development can
now be added to the domains in which Python excels.

Come along and listen to the creator of MicroPython - and two converts! -
explain why the language was created and how it manages to run on
resource-constrained microcontrollers. Demonstrations will showcase
effective applications for the language and explain why MicroPython is
compelling in the embedded space.

Note: There will be time, during or after pizza, to ask questions and
tinker with some hardware. Bring a laptop if you'd like to play with a
microcontroller!


*2. Rory Hart: The future of Python dependency management* (~25 minutes)

Pipenv is now the recommended tool for application dependency management.
Rory will talk through what problems Pipenv solves and introduce its usage
through a live demonstration.


*3. Lightning talks?*


*4. Announcements and pizza*


*When:* 5.45pm for mingling; talks from 6pm to ~7.15pm, pizza afterwards

*Where: *Outcome-Hub Co-Working Space, Suite 1, 121 Cardigan Street, Carlton

*How to get there: *Walk 12 minutes north from Melbourne Central station.

*Sponsorship:* many thanks to Outcome Hub for providing the venue and
Python Charmers
for ongoing sponsorship.

*RSVP:* Please respond on Meetup.com so we can track numbers: https://www.
meetup.com/Melbourne-Python-Meetup-Group/

We hope to see you there! :-D

Best wishes,
    Ed


-- 
Dr. Edward Schofield
Python Charmers
http://pythoncharmers.com
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From sambvfx at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 03:17:12 2018
From: sambvfx at gmail.com (Sam Bourne)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 17:17:12 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Faust - Python Stream Processing
Message-ID: <CAKR7D-MnTLxC7rdDoX_z8jLZdeS-E+LdYueQ61=m57dXuN9vqQ@mail.gmail.com>

http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/

This is super fascinating! It appears to be a spiritual successor to celery
<http://www.celeryproject.org/> (it's written by the same guy even), but
it's built around kafka
<http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide/kafka.html> for the queues
and rocksdb
<http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide/tables.html#tables> for
state.

It is used at Robinhood <https://robinhood.com/> to build high performance
> distributed systems and real-time data pipelines that process billions of
> events every day.


-Sam
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From timkrins at gmail.com  Thu Aug  2 05:57:10 2018
From: timkrins at gmail.com (Tim Krins)
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 10:57:10 +0100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
In-Reply-To: <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>
References: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
 <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>
 <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>
Message-ID: <CANkDQUVCamStaSS=zsN3B-nn-djg7OHFaxege26HfZ8euaYpug@mail.gmail.com>

Unfortunately, I'm not sure that Python would be a silver bullet here, or
even any kind of bullet.

I would expect sorting with computer vision is already very very possible,
but would be slower and more expensive than huge shredders, magnets, water
baths and other 'passive' sorting methods.

The idea of creating building materials out of recycled plastic has been
around for a while - check out companies like ByFusion - which may come
into their own as China rejects recyclable plastic shipments.

Not trying to bring the mood down - I would love to build a home out of
recycled plastic (as long as I could be very confident about its structural
stability over time).

Tim

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:43 AM Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au> wrote:

> On 2/08/2018 5:07 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
>
> I?d like to see the packaging industry ended - or at least stop making single use wrappers.  The core problem is not reusing waste, it?s that we manufacture an infinite amount of the stuff and every day the packaging industry (actually the garbage manufacturing industry) pours out never ending tonnage of more.  We?re drowning in garbage but still paying the packaging industry to keep making it.  Sorry that?s nothing to do with Python.
>
> Andrew
>
> You may be entirely correct. However, until we get to a point where
> wrappers actually are obsolete we need to clean them up and prevent them
> from polluting.
>
> Robots can learn to clean up for us. That is what I think it has to do
> with Python :)
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On 2 Aug 2018, at 4:42 pm, Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au> <miked at dewhirst.com.au> wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I attended a dangerous goods meeting yesterday and most of the time was spent discussing waste.
>
> Some contractors who can no longer ship waste to China now pay a few months rent in advance for a factory, stack it to the roof with waste and when no more can be squeezed in they disappear leaving the landlord to sort it out. Too often, spontaneous combustion works its magic first and the Fire Service has to respond.
>
> The scientific consensus was that we need a war on waste.
>
> I was reminded of that Mumbai documentary which showed hordes of children sorting through vast piles of waste extracting sellable stuff.
>
> It occurs to me that all the consumption care in the world (today's world anyway) isn't going to cut the mustard. We need armies of robots which can learn to recognise recyclable material. They can be specialised, small, medium and large. They can have gas detectors, spectrum analysers and other sniffers and detectors to help.
>
> Eventually I see waste mountains being broken down into more granularly unique substances and chemical processes used for the hard-to-extract stuff. In (unproven) theory some of the waste should be convertable into energy to recharge the robot batteries and power their collaboration networks.
>
> Even if some of the recovered materials were not worth selling they could be stored until someone thought of a use for them. House-bricks?
>
> I wonder if any of you inventive pyfolk think the world needs swarms of intelligent waste converters?
>
> Its an idea but with a self-organising collective it might become a project!
>
> Cheers
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing listmelbourne-pug at python.orghttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing listmelbourne-pug at python.orghttps://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>


-- 
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Jersey, CI
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From jeremyarr at gmail.com  Fri Aug  3 21:01:32 2018
From: jeremyarr at gmail.com (Jeremy R)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 11:01:32 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next Melbourne Python meeting - Monday 6 August
In-Reply-To: <CA+8hrDh=d4oz=Bpf2dAV3i7FK3pz5MS8-s7VjYgmhq4GpMmdCQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+8hrDh=d4oz=Bpf2dAV3i7FK3pz5MS8-s7VjYgmhq4GpMmdCQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOA+a5OwmUrYTRmYCRChHGijVV2_jE0daFAYWySiph6HF13FWA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Ed,

Can you put me down for a lightning talk for 5-10 mins?
Topic:  "Queues - the secret sauce of python"

Cheers,
Jeremy Rotstein

On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:22 Ed Schofield <ed at pythoncharmers.com> wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> Do come and join us for the next meetup of the Melbourne Python user group
> on Monday evening. We've got two great talks planned:
>
>
> *1. Damien George, Nick Moore, Matt Trentini: A Taste of MicroPython*
> (~30 minutes)
>
> Python can be used for a vast range of tasks like web development, data
> science and machine learning. With MicroPython, embedded development can
> now be added to the domains in which Python excels.
>
> Come along and listen to the creator of MicroPython - and two converts! -
> explain why the language was created and how it manages to run on
> resource-constrained microcontrollers. Demonstrations will showcase
> effective applications for the language and explain why MicroPython is
> compelling in the embedded space.
>
> Note: There will be time, during or after pizza, to ask questions and
> tinker with some hardware. Bring a laptop if you'd like to play with a
> microcontroller!
>
>
> *2. Rory Hart: The future of Python dependency management* (~25 minutes)
>
> Pipenv is now the recommended tool for application dependency management.
> Rory will talk through what problems Pipenv solves and introduce its usage
> through a live demonstration.
>
>
> *3. Lightning talks?*
>
>
> *4. Announcements and pizza*
>
>
> *When:* 5.45pm for mingling; talks from 6pm to ~7.15pm, pizza afterwards
>
> *Where: *Outcome-Hub Co-Working Space, Suite 1, 121 Cardigan Street,
> Carlton
>
> *How to get there: *Walk 12 minutes north from Melbourne Central station.
>
> *Sponsorship:* many thanks to Outcome Hub for providing the venue and
> Python Charmers for ongoing sponsorship.
>
> *RSVP:* Please respond on Meetup.com so we can track numbers: https://www.
> meetup.com/Melbourne-Python-Meetup-Group/
>
> We hope to see you there! :-D
>
> Best wishes,
>     Ed
>
>
> --
> Dr. Edward Schofield
> Python Charmers
> http://pythoncharmers.com
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au  Sat Aug  4 01:50:27 2018
From: andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au (Andrew Stuart)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:50:27 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
In-Reply-To: <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>
References: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
 <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>
 <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>
Message-ID: <319F57C9-891C-46CF-9832-21063C7396BE@supercoders.com.au>

>>  That is what I think it has to do with Python

Sorry Mike I meant my comment had nothing to do with Python - did not mean to invalidate your idea which is a good one and relevant to Python.

From hartror at gmail.com  Sat Aug  4 01:58:49 2018
From: hartror at gmail.com (Rory Hart)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 15:58:49 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Faust - Python Stream Processing
In-Reply-To: <CAKR7D-MnTLxC7rdDoX_z8jLZdeS-E+LdYueQ61=m57dXuN9vqQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKR7D-MnTLxC7rdDoX_z8jLZdeS-E+LdYueQ61=m57dXuN9vqQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADf+qJd81Un3gwbyb-oZJC1oP3uXNPjFd+fdiNQFqQceOkt48w@mail.gmail.com>

I love Kafka Streams and keep looking for an excuse to deploy them, nice to
know there is a Python option.

> It appears to be a spiritual successor to celery

Am I right in thinking Faust wouldn't be a idea for the batch processing
use cases that celery serves?

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 15:44, Sam Bourne <sambvfx at gmail.com> wrote:

> http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>
> This is super fascinating! It appears to be a spiritual successor to
> celery <http://www.celeryproject.org/> (it's written by the same guy
> even), but it's built around kafka
> <http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide/kafka.html> for the
> queues and rocksdb
> <http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide/tables.html#tables> for
> state.
>
> It is used at Robinhood <https://robinhood.com/> to build high
>> performance distributed systems and real-time data pipelines that process
>> billions of events every day.
>
>
> -Sam
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From dan.peade at gmail.com  Sat Aug  4 05:13:35 2018
From: dan.peade at gmail.com (Dan Peade)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2018 19:13:35 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
In-Reply-To: <319F57C9-891C-46CF-9832-21063C7396BE@supercoders.com.au>
References: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
 <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>
 <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>
 <319F57C9-891C-46CF-9832-21063C7396BE@supercoders.com.au>
Message-ID: <CAA_jM+5cq4CE_1W-fibBez3u+Q+eYLdOSCqEphNE9-NCt7zA1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mike,

Have you seen WALL-E (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WALL-E) ? Worth
watching (for adults and kids).

I've definitely had similar thoughts to what you're proposing particularly
with regards to extricating plastic from the oceans and waterways.
Absolutely no idea how feasible it is though. As a general line of thought
though, I'm really interested in the convergence of software, hardware and
waste management so cool to hear other people are thinking about it too.

Cheers,
Dan


On 4 August 2018 at 15:50, Andrew Stuart <andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au>
wrote:

> >>  That is what I think it has to do with Python
>
> Sorry Mike I meant my comment had nothing to do with Python - did not mean
> to invalidate your idea which is a good one and relevant to Python.
> _______________________________________________
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> melbourne-pug at python.org
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From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Sun Aug  5 03:56:47 2018
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 17:56:47 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
In-Reply-To: <319F57C9-891C-46CF-9832-21063C7396BE@supercoders.com.au>
References: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
 <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>
 <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>
 <319F57C9-891C-46CF-9832-21063C7396BE@supercoders.com.au>
Message-ID: <f1d2d2d9-97a4-ff75-51f1-d887467eb9ad@dewhirst.com.au>

On 4/08/2018 3:50 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
>>>   That is what I think it has to do with Python
> Sorry Mike I meant my comment had nothing to do with Python - did not mean to invalidate your idea which is a good one and relevant to Python.

I apologise for mis-reading your reply. Ain't email wonderful?

Anyway, you are certainly correct. The war on waste has many fronts and 
point-of-sale marketing being central to over-packaging has to be one of 
them. I guess there will one day be plain recyclable packages assembled 
by picking machines and delivered by dumb waiters and all the p-o-s 
marketing will happen where you browse your shopping list.

Cheers

Mike

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From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Sun Aug  5 04:00:06 2018
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 18:00:06 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
In-Reply-To: <CAA_jM+5cq4CE_1W-fibBez3u+Q+eYLdOSCqEphNE9-NCt7zA1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b7a1b553-6f08-8c6b-6893-fb6f009843ca@dewhirst.com.au>
 <80AE2005-337B-4BB4-A7F1-56C1A2D17A1E@supercoders.com.au>
 <dac8853f-e34c-cb76-e2a9-0b525c128938@dewhirst.com.au>
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On 4/08/2018 7:13 PM, Dan Peade wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> Have you seen WALL-E (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WALL-E) ? Worth 
> watching (for adults and kids).

No. But the synopsis is interesting.

>
> I've definitely had similar thoughts to what you're proposing 
> particularly with regards to extricating plastic from the oceans and 
> waterways. Absolutely no idea how feasible it is though. As a general 
> line of thought though, I'm really interested in the convergence of 
> software, hardware and waste management so cool to hear other people 
> are thinking about it too.

I think China has triggered that.

Cheers

Mike


>
> Cheers,
> Dan
>
>
> On 4 August 2018 at 15:50, Andrew Stuart 
> <andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au 
> <mailto:andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     >>? That is what I think it has to do with Python
>
>     Sorry Mike I meant my comment had nothing to do with Python - did
>     not mean to invalidate your idea which is a good one and relevant
>     to Python.
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From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Sun Aug  5 04:27:26 2018
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 18:27:26 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] AI and ML idea
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On 2/08/2018 7:57 PM, Tim Krins wrote:
> Unfortunately, I'm not sure that Python would be a silver bullet here, 
> or even any kind of bullet.
>
> I would expect sorting with computer vision is already very very 
> possible, but would be slower and more expensive than huge shredders, 
> magnets, water baths and other 'passive' sorting methods.
>
> The idea of creating building materials out of recycled plastic has 
> been around for a while - check out companies like ByFusion - which 
> may come into their own as China rejects recyclable plastic shipments.
>
> Not trying to bring the mood down - I would love to build a home out 
> of recycled plastic (as long as I could be very confident about its 
> structural stability over time).

At the end of the day waste has to be dealt with. There is just so much 
of it. Someone somewhere will figure out how to do it.

The sheer volume demands automation and that should attract entrepreneurs.

I reckon it will be an incremental process which gets more and more 
granular over time. Separation into specific compounds - like fuels - 
can be done chemically or biologically to some degree. Eventually the 
intractable waste will need to be either incinerated at high 
temperatures or encapsulated/vitrified and buried like nuclear waste.

OpenAI is written in Python and that tells me Python is the language 
which will drive a lot of ML/AI work in the foreseeable. It isn't a 
silver bullet for sure but if waste sorting is ever to be done by 
autonomous swarms of robots it will probably be part of the solution.

I just did a bit of googling and see this idea is old hat really. It is 
being done already.

Oh well ...

Cheers

Mike


>
> Tim
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:43 AM Mike Dewhirst <miked at dewhirst.com.au 
> <mailto:miked at dewhirst.com.au>> wrote:
>
>     On 2/08/2018 5:07 PM, Andrew Stuart wrote:
>>     I?d like to see the packaging industry ended - or at least stop making single use wrappers.  The core problem is not reusing waste, it?s that we manufacture an infinite amount of the stuff and every day the packaging industry (actually the garbage manufacturing industry) pours out never ending tonnage of more.  We?re drowning in garbage but still paying the packaging industry to keep making it.  Sorry that?s nothing to do with Python.
>     Andrew
>
>     You may be entirely correct. However, until we get to a point
>     where wrappers actually are obsolete we need to clean them up and
>     prevent them from polluting.
>
>     Robots can learn to clean up for us. That is what I think it has
>     to do with Python :)
>
>     Mike
>
>>     On 2 Aug 2018, at 4:42 pm, Mike Dewhirst<miked at dewhirst.com.au> <mailto:miked at dewhirst.com.au>  wrote:
>>
>>     Hi all!
>>
>>     I attended a dangerous goods meeting yesterday and most of the time was spent discussing waste.
>>
>>     Some contractors who can no longer ship waste to China now pay a few months rent in advance for a factory, stack it to the roof with waste and when no more can be squeezed in they disappear leaving the landlord to sort it out. Too often, spontaneous combustion works its magic first and the Fire Service has to respond.
>>
>>     The scientific consensus was that we need a war on waste.
>>
>>     I was reminded of that Mumbai documentary which showed hordes of children sorting through vast piles of waste extracting sellable stuff.
>>
>>     It occurs to me that all the consumption care in the world (today's world anyway) isn't going to cut the mustard. We need armies of robots which can learn to recognise recyclable material. They can be specialised, small, medium and large. They can have gas detectors, spectrum analysers and other sniffers and detectors to help.
>>
>>     Eventually I see waste mountains being broken down into more granularly unique substances and chemical processes used for the hard-to-extract stuff. In (unproven) theory some of the waste should be convertable into energy to recharge the robot batteries and power their collaboration networks.
>>
>>     Even if some of the recovered materials were not worth selling they could be stored until someone thought of a use for them. House-bricks?
>>
>>     I wonder if any of you inventive pyfolk think the world needs swarms of intelligent waste converters?
>>
>>     Its an idea but with a self-organising collective it might become a project!
>>
>>     Cheers
>>
>>     Mike
>>
>>
>>
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From hartror at gmail.com  Wed Aug  8 01:48:58 2018
From: hartror at gmail.com (Rory Hart)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 15:48:58 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next Melbourne Python meeting - Monday 6 August
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Hi folks

Slides from my talk on pipenv here:
https://speakerdeck.com/hartror/pipenv-melbourne-python-user-group-mpug

Thanks

Rory Hart

On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 15:44, Jeremy R <jeremyarr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey Ed,
>
> Can you put me down for a lightning talk for 5-10 mins?
> Topic:  "Queues - the secret sauce of python"
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy Rotstein
>
> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:22 Ed Schofield <ed at pythoncharmers.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all!
>>
>> Do come and join us for the next meetup of the Melbourne Python user
>> group on Monday evening. We've got two great talks planned:
>>
>>
>> *1. Damien George, Nick Moore, Matt Trentini: A Taste of MicroPython*
>> (~30 minutes)
>>
>> Python can be used for a vast range of tasks like web development, data
>> science and machine learning. With MicroPython, embedded development can
>> now be added to the domains in which Python excels.
>>
>> Come along and listen to the creator of MicroPython - and two converts! -
>> explain why the language was created and how it manages to run on
>> resource-constrained microcontrollers. Demonstrations will showcase
>> effective applications for the language and explain why MicroPython is
>> compelling in the embedded space.
>>
>> Note: There will be time, during or after pizza, to ask questions and
>> tinker with some hardware. Bring a laptop if you'd like to play with a
>> microcontroller!
>>
>>
>> *2. Rory Hart: The future of Python dependency management* (~25 minutes)
>>
>> Pipenv is now the recommended tool for application dependency management.
>> Rory will talk through what problems Pipenv solves and introduce its usage
>> through a live demonstration.
>>
>>
>> *3. Lightning talks?*
>>
>>
>> *4. Announcements and pizza*
>>
>>
>> *When:* 5.45pm for mingling; talks from 6pm to ~7.15pm, pizza afterwards
>>
>> *Where: *Outcome-Hub Co-Working Space, Suite 1, 121 Cardigan Street,
>> Carlton
>>
>> *How to get there: *Walk 12 minutes north from Melbourne Central station.
>>
>> *Sponsorship:* many thanks to Outcome Hub for providing the venue and
>> Python Charmers for ongoing sponsorship.
>>
>> *RSVP:* Please respond on Meetup.com so we can track numbers:
>> https://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Python-Meetup-Group/
>>
>> We hope to see you there! :-D
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>     Ed
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Edward Schofield
>> Python Charmers
>> http://pythoncharmers.com
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From matt.trentini at gmail.com  Wed Aug  8 02:12:45 2018
From: matt.trentini at gmail.com (Matt Trentini)
Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2018 16:12:45 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next Melbourne Python meeting - Monday 6 August
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Hi folks,

Damien and my slides can be found here: A Taste of Micropython
<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SBhXgttuD2ZyDnFPjracqDIbB7vSLg7oav7v-h27wbs/edit?usp=sharing>
.
Nick's can be found in Rocket Surgery <https://nick.zoic.org/talk/mpug2/#1>.

Thanks to Ed for organising and to all of you for being a great audience!

We recorded the session too; I'll link to it as soon as I've processed the
footage.

Cheers,
Matt, Damien and Nick

On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 at 15:49 Rory Hart <hartror at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> Slides from my talk on pipenv here:
> https://speakerdeck.com/hartror/pipenv-melbourne-python-user-group-mpug
>
> Thanks
>
> Rory Hart
>
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 15:44, Jeremy R <jeremyarr at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ed,
>>
>> Can you put me down for a lightning talk for 5-10 mins?
>> Topic:  "Queues - the secret sauce of python"
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeremy Rotstein
>>
>> On Fri, 3 Aug 2018 22:22 Ed Schofield <ed at pythoncharmers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all!
>>>
>>> Do come and join us for the next meetup of the Melbourne Python user
>>> group on Monday evening. We've got two great talks planned:
>>>
>>>
>>> *1. Damien George, Nick Moore, Matt Trentini: A Taste of MicroPython*
>>> (~30 minutes)
>>>
>>> Python can be used for a vast range of tasks like web development, data
>>> science and machine learning. With MicroPython, embedded development can
>>> now be added to the domains in which Python excels.
>>>
>>> Come along and listen to the creator of MicroPython - and two converts!
>>> - explain why the language was created and how it manages to run on
>>> resource-constrained microcontrollers. Demonstrations will showcase
>>> effective applications for the language and explain why MicroPython is
>>> compelling in the embedded space.
>>>
>>> Note: There will be time, during or after pizza, to ask questions and
>>> tinker with some hardware. Bring a laptop if you'd like to play with a
>>> microcontroller!
>>>
>>>
>>> *2. Rory Hart: The future of Python dependency management* (~25 minutes)
>>>
>>> Pipenv is now the recommended tool for application dependency
>>> management. Rory will talk through what problems Pipenv solves and
>>> introduce its usage through a live demonstration.
>>>
>>>
>>> *3. Lightning talks?*
>>>
>>>
>>> *4. Announcements and pizza*
>>>
>>>
>>> *When:* 5.45pm for mingling; talks from 6pm to ~7.15pm, pizza afterwards
>>>
>>> *Where: *Outcome-Hub Co-Working Space, Suite 1, 121 Cardigan Street,
>>> Carlton
>>>
>>> *How to get there: *Walk 12 minutes north from Melbourne Central
>>> station.
>>>
>>> *Sponsorship:* many thanks to Outcome Hub for providing the venue and
>>> Python Charmers for ongoing sponsorship.
>>>
>>> *RSVP:* Please respond on Meetup.com so we can track numbers:
>>> https://www.meetup.com/Melbourne-Python-Meetup-Group/
>>>
>>> We hope to see you there! :-D
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>>     Ed
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Edward Schofield
>>> Python Charmers
>>> http://pythoncharmers.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz  Wed Aug  8 02:39:34 2018
From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May)
Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 16:39:34 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next Melbourne Python meeting - Monday 6 August
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On 2018-08-08 16:12, Matt Trentini wrote:

> Hi folks, 
> 
> Damien and my slides can be found here: A Taste of Micropython [1].

Unfortunately I was unable to attend. I notice from the slides the
following statement: "Supports threading without a GIL (with some
caveats)" 

Just wondering what this caveats are? The only thing google suggests(*)
is https://forum.micropython.org/viewtopic.php?t=1864, which suggests
that Micropython may need a GIL in the future to fix some crash
conditions, but this post was from 2016. 

Footnotes: 

(*) Curiously Google when searching for "micropython Supports threading
without a GIL (with some caveats)" helpfully suggests "Did you mean:
micropython Supports threading without a GIRL (with some caveats)". 

Links:
------
[1]
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1SBhXgttuD2ZyDnFPjracqDIbB7vSLg7oav7v-h27wbs/edit?usp=sharing
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From sambvfx at gmail.com  Sun Aug  5 19:09:39 2018
From: sambvfx at gmail.com (Sam Bourne)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 09:09:39 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Faust - Python Stream Processing
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http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/playbooks/vscelery.html

This overview appears to suggest it's everything celery is plus some. I
can't speak to everyones use of celery, but I believe I could drop this in
as a replacement if it wasn't python3 only.

I love Kafka Streams


Thats good to hear! I haven't used Kafka before and was afraid it could be
difficult to setup and maintain (in the way say an ELK stack is). There are
talks <https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17656812> about using
redis-streams <https://redis.io/topics/streams-intro> for the broker or at
least allowing it to be configurable - which adds to my assumption Kafka is
burdensome. It's good to know your experiences have been positive.


On Sat, Aug 4, 2018 at 3:59 PM Rory Hart <hartror at gmail.com> wrote:

> I love Kafka Streams and keep looking for an excuse to deploy them, nice
> to know there is a Python option.
>
> > It appears to be a spiritual successor to celery
>
> Am I right in thinking Faust wouldn't be a idea for the batch processing
> use cases that celery serves?
>
> On Sat, 4 Aug 2018 at 15:44, Sam Bourne <sambvfx at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
>>
>> This is super fascinating! It appears to be a spiritual successor to
>> celery <http://www.celeryproject.org/> (it's written by the same guy
>> even), but it's built around kafka
>> <http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide/kafka.html> for the
>> queues and rocksdb
>> <http://faust.readthedocs.io/en/latest/userguide/tables.html#tables> for
>> state.
>>
>> It is used at Robinhood <https://robinhood.com/> to build high
>>> performance distributed systems and real-time data pipelines that process
>>> billions of events every day.
>>
>>
>> -Sam
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From damien.p.george at gmail.com  Thu Aug  9 23:13:44 2018
From: damien.p.george at gmail.com (Damien George)
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2018 13:13:44 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] MicroPython without a GIL (was Next Melbourne
 Python meeting - Monday 6 August)
Message-ID: <CANw+Mzn=Msju3SKK7cOV-owLH-W1=kp_c0JyT5foidnbLwCtQA@mail.gmail.com>

> Unfortunately I was unable to attend. I notice from the slides the
> following statement: "Supports threading without a GIL (with some
> caveats)"

> Just wondering what this caveats are? The only thing google suggests(*)
> is https://forum.micropython.org/viewtopic.php?t=1864, which suggests
> that Micropython may need a GIL in the future to fix some crash
> conditions, but this post was from 2016.

When running without a GIL access to individual Python objects is not
protected from race conditions.  So, for example, if one thread is mutating
a list (adding an element) and another thread is also muting the same list
(deleting elements) then this can lead to crashes.  The way around this is
to explicitly protect (using locks) objects which may be accessed by
multiple threads at the same time.  But if your code is sharing objects
like this then probably it's a good idea to have locks in place.

When using threading without a GIL just think of it like programming with
threads in C: any communication between threads must be properly
synchronised.

The only things that are automatically protected from race conditions when
the GIL is disabled is interning of strings and memory allocation
(including garbage collection).  Because these are things you can't really
protect against using locks in Python code.

Cheers,
Damien.
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From ewan at seermedical.com  Tue Aug 14 00:13:03 2018
From: ewan at seermedical.com (Ewan Nurse)
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 14:13:03 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Job opportunity for Python developer
Message-ID: <CABq6rap9UDSUifAY1n9Nsw=earyKD=UObvFB4zG6iGM9xOHcvA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Seer combines medical and technological expertise to improve healthcare for
everyone.

We?re looking to hire a Python developer to work alongside our data
scientists and web developers and help us integrate and automate our
machine learning models and workflows.

If you're interested check out our ad at
https://www.seek.com.au/job/36947109?type=standout or email
rob at seermedical.com. We'll also hopefully be at the next meetup.

Regards,
Ewan
-- 
Ewan Nurse, Medical Data Scientist, Seer Medical
Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane and Surrounding Areas
T: +61425362993 <+61%20425%20362%20993> | E: ewan at seermedical.com | W:
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From dallas.warren at monash.edu  Wed Aug 15 22:19:15 2018
From: dallas.warren at monash.edu (Dallas Warren)
Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 12:19:15 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Position Open: Software Developer, GUI
Message-ID: <CAOv1qzZveQ5fG5KrV8ZXbA61CBoe5SFcx+eYObE9HqMK1S7ekQ@mail.gmail.com>

The successful applicant will work with a diverse team of researchers
to develop a graphical user interface (GUI) for constructing,
performing, displaying, analysing and organising chemical simulations.
The GUI will utilise existing scientific software that can perform
each of these steps individually, and offer a common interface that
will provide a coherent, streamlined process and make it accessible to
those without specific knowledge of each individual software package.
The software developer will work within a research collaboration
between the Drug Delivery Disposition and Dynamics Theme at the Monash
Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences and Lonza Pharma & Biotech
(https://www.lonza.com). These contributions may include programs to
streamline and automate processes, new data analysis methodologies,
and new presenting data methods e.g. virtual reality.

For more information, position description and to apply see
http://careers.pageuppeople.com/513/cw/en/job/580782/software-developer

Catch ya,

Dr. Dallas Warren
Drug Delivery, Disposition and Dynamics
Monash Institute of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Monash University
381 Royal Parade, Parkville VIC 3052
dallas.warren at monash.edu
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When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail.

From matt.trentini at gmail.com  Mon Aug 27 23:47:07 2018
From: matt.trentini at gmail.com (Matt Trentini)
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2018 13:47:07 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Reminder: Melbourne MicroPython Meetup tomorrow
Message-ID: <CAFZxO_meObFND28CRZXpKMm5ZnVDGGU+TSpS0qO_d=V6GR5wyw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

It's been a few weeks since Damien, Nick and I presented about MicroPython
so I thought I'd give a gentle reminder that this month's Melbourne
MicroPython Meetup
<https://www.meetup.com/MicroPython-Meetup/events/zhflhnyxlbdc/> is
tomorrow evening!

Don't stress if you haven't used MicroPython or don't have hardware - we'll
sort you out!

There'll be a couple of short talks: 1) An overview of the recent PyCon AU
and 2) a LoRaWAN demo. The rest of the time you can experiment with
hardware and talk with folks working on projects. Pizza is opt-in for $10.

Hope to see some of you at the CCHS in Hawthorn from 6:30pm. :)

Cheers,
Matt
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