From news02 at metrak.com  Tue May  2 00:33:37 2017
From: news02 at metrak.com (paul sorenson)
Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 21:33:37 -0700
Subject: [melbourne-pug] pycon 2017
Message-ID: <e6b6e3b0-1f6a-f99d-ad15-62218f77d392@metrak.com>

Heading to pycon 2017?

I will be there along with some others from Facebook, please come and
introduce yourself.

Aside from pycon if you are in the Bay area and up for a beer please get
in touch.

cheers



From ben+python at benfinney.id.au  Tue May  2 01:41:28 2017
From: ben+python at benfinney.id.au (Ben Finney)
Date: Tue, 02 May 2017 15:41:28 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] pycon 2017
References: <e6b6e3b0-1f6a-f99d-ad15-62218f77d392@metrak.com>
Message-ID: <85wp9z4xyv.fsf@benfinney.id.au>

paul sorenson <news02 at metrak.com> writes:

> Heading to pycon 2017?

As far as I know, ?PyCon 2017? refers to the US-based event in Portland
<URL:https://us.pycon.org/2017/>.

Do you mean PyCon AU 2017 <URL:https://2017.pycon-au.org/>, which is in
the city for which this is a forum?

> I will be there along with some others from Facebook, please come and
> introduce yourself.

When you say ?from Facebook?, are these people who you know as users on
that service? Or are you saying you're a Facebook employee? Or something
else?

> Aside from pycon if you are in the Bay area and up for a beer please
> get in touch.

Thanks for the invitation :-)

-- 
 \             ?I put contact lenses in my dog's eyes. They had little |
  `\   pictures of cats on them. Then I took one out and he ran around |
_o__)                                      in circles.? ?Steven Wright |
Ben Finney


From miked at dewhirst.com.au  Tue May  2 08:17:03 2017
From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 22:17:03 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] pycon 2017
In-Reply-To: <85wp9z4xyv.fsf@benfinney.id.au>
References: <e6b6e3b0-1f6a-f99d-ad15-62218f77d392@metrak.com>
 <85wp9z4xyv.fsf@benfinney.id.au>
Message-ID: <8dc78aba-3237-1639-dd25-eb910d3b1498@dewhirst.com.au>

On 2/05/2017 3:41 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> paul sorenson <news02 at metrak.com> writes:
>
>> Heading to pycon 2017?
> As far as I know, ?PyCon 2017? refers to the US-based event in Portland
> <URL:https://us.pycon.org/2017/>.
>
> Do you mean PyCon AU 2017 <URL:https://2017.pycon-au.org/>, which is in
> the city for which this is a forum?
>
>> I will be there along with some others from Facebook, please come and
>> introduce yourself.

Paul is a distinguished scientist and engineer from Melbourne with some 
amazing accomplishments. I believe he was recruited recently by Facebook 
to predict their networking requirements. Python is part of his palette. 
If he presents a session at Pycon I will definitely attend.


> When you say ?from Facebook?, are these people who you know as users on
> that service? Or are you saying you're a Facebook employee? Or something
> else?
>
>> Aside from pycon if you are in the Bay area and up for a beer please
>> get in touch.
> Thanks for the invitation :-)
>


From news02 at metrak.com  Tue May  2 20:42:02 2017
From: news02 at metrak.com (paul sorenson)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 17:42:02 -0700
Subject: [melbourne-pug] pycon 2017
In-Reply-To: <8dc78aba-3237-1639-dd25-eb910d3b1498@dewhirst.com.au>
References: <e6b6e3b0-1f6a-f99d-ad15-62218f77d392@metrak.com>
 <85wp9z4xyv.fsf@benfinney.id.au>
 <8dc78aba-3237-1639-dd25-eb910d3b1498@dewhirst.com.au>
Message-ID: <a2686545-47a8-20af-392c-6332bbecf34a@metrak.com>

Mike,

Close - some of my colleagues will be presenting (in Portland).

cheers


On 05/02/2017 05:17 AM, Mike Dewhirst wrote:
> On 2/05/2017 3:41 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
>> paul sorenson <news02 at metrak.com> writes:
>>
>>> Heading to pycon 2017?
>> As far as I know, ?PyCon 2017? refers to the US-based event in Portland
>> <URL:https://us.pycon.org/2017/>.
>>
>> Do you mean PyCon AU 2017 <URL:https://2017.pycon-au.org/>, which is in
>> the city for which this is a forum?
>>
>>> I will be there along with some others from Facebook, please come and
>>> introduce yourself.
>
> Paul is a distinguished scientist and engineer from Melbourne with
> some amazing accomplishments. I believe he was recruited recently by
> Facebook to predict their networking requirements. Python is part of
> his palette. If he presents a session at Pycon I will definitely attend.
>
>
>> When you say ?from Facebook?, are these people who you know as users on
>> that service? Or are you saying you're a Facebook employee? Or something
>> else?
>>
>>> Aside from pycon if you are in the Bay area and up for a beer please
>>> get in touch.
>> Thanks for the invitation :-)
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug


From news02 at metrak.com  Tue May  2 20:53:38 2017
From: news02 at metrak.com (paul sorenson)
Date: Tue, 2 May 2017 17:53:38 -0700
Subject: [melbourne-pug] pycon 2017
In-Reply-To: <85wp9z4xyv.fsf@benfinney.id.au>
References: <e6b6e3b0-1f6a-f99d-ad15-62218f77d392@metrak.com>
 <85wp9z4xyv.fsf@benfinney.id.au>
Message-ID: <74308e51-273f-9942-16a6-15657d314cc1@metrak.com>


On 05/01/2017 10:41 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> paul sorenson <news02 at metrak.com> writes:
>
>> Heading to pycon 2017?
> As far as I know, ?PyCon 2017? refers to the US-based event in Portland
> <URL:https://us.pycon.org/2017/>.
this one ^^^^
> Do you mean PyCon AU 2017 <URL:https://2017.pycon-au.org/>, which is in
> the city for which this is a forum?
>> I will be there along with some others from Facebook, please come and
>> introduce yourself.
> When you say ?from Facebook?, are these people who you know as users on
> that service? Or are you saying you're a Facebook employee? Or something
> else?
I am a facebook employee and spend most of my day hacking on python.
>
>> Aside from pycon if you are in the Bay area and up for a beer please
>> get in touch.
> Thanks for the invitation :-)
>
No problem.



From ryan.verner at gmail.com  Thu May  4 06:47:27 2017
From: ryan.verner at gmail.com (Ryan Verner)
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 20:47:27 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] pycon 2017
In-Reply-To: <74308e51-273f-9942-16a6-15657d314cc1@metrak.com>
References: <e6b6e3b0-1f6a-f99d-ad15-62218f77d392@metrak.com>
 <85wp9z4xyv.fsf@benfinney.id.au>
 <74308e51-273f-9942-16a6-15657d314cc1@metrak.com>
Message-ID: <CAKXXGe3eevHvNRqytYJ6GKO4PEn1ekmkTx2zpV9gPdfwLz_0+g@mail.gmail.com>

Assuming you mean Pycon US, I'll be there.  Any other MPUG'ers going?

R

On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 10:53 AM, paul sorenson <news02 at metrak.com> wrote:

>
> On 05/01/2017 10:41 PM, Ben Finney wrote:
> > paul sorenson <news02 at metrak.com> writes:
> >
> >> Heading to pycon 2017?
> > As far as I know, ?PyCon 2017? refers to the US-based event in Portland
> > <URL:https://us.pycon.org/2017/>.
> this one ^^^^
> > Do you mean PyCon AU 2017 <URL:https://2017.pycon-au.org/>, which is in
> > the city for which this is a forum?
> >> I will be there along with some others from Facebook, please come and
> >> introduce yourself.
> > When you say ?from Facebook?, are these people who you know as users on
> > that service? Or are you saying you're a Facebook employee? Or something
> > else?
> I am a facebook employee and spend most of my day hacking on python.
> >
> >> Aside from pycon if you are in the Bay area and up for a beer please
> >> get in touch.
> > Thanks for the invitation :-)
> >
> No problem.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From david.crisp at gmail.com  Mon May  8 00:34:47 2017
From: david.crisp at gmail.com (David Crisp)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 14:34:47 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python 3 and PySide shearing of properties from
 other classes
Message-ID: <CAG3JqCv1wnH+=57Ykrng0hwY_xMHWHMO7WvFqWo9-mW7LU0T=w@mail.gmail.com>

A problem in two parts with their own questions.   What is the terminology
for something, and then how would I do it.

My problem is that I don't know the correct Pythonic (or even general
programming terminology) term to use to search for what I am trying to do.
This makes it very difficult to go searching for the answer to my problem.

What is the correct terminology for the following:

I have a Main class that instantiates a Configuration class that handles
reading the settings file and then setting up properties.    The same main
class then calls a mainWindow GUI  which has a configuration gui that I
want to be able to use and set the properties in the Configuration
class.     I not sure what this terminology is.

For what its worth, I am using PySide, converting the .ui files to python
files and handling the gui content in python instead of the .ui file if
that helps.

In the following example each of the python files contain a single class.
(makes for a lot of files but it seems to work in my head)

    Main -\
              | Configuration
              |- guiMainWindow -\
                                           |
                                           \--guiConfigWindow

Given that:
How do I set it up so that the properties set in the configuration class
can be accessed and set by the guiConfigWindow class?

Mind you,  if I know what the correct terminology is and can find some well
written examples I will have this problem solved before you can say "We
needed this code last Friday,  Today was meant to be release day"

I asked on StackOverflow a while ago but haven't had any responses.
David
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From tom at jugglethis.net  Mon May  8 01:24:11 2017
From: tom at jugglethis.net (Tom Allen)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 15:24:11 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python 3 and PySide shearing of properties from
 other classes
In-Reply-To: <CAG3JqCv1wnH+=57Ykrng0hwY_xMHWHMO7WvFqWo9-mW7LU0T=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG3JqCv1wnH+=57Ykrng0hwY_xMHWHMO7WvFqWo9-mW7LU0T=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM13JOABVd8vwNR=dvRGoTm-3KR3uxEaXiKhdWhK2r+f7XHKFw@mail.gmail.com>

I would suggest what you're after is the Model-View-Controller pattern.
Your settings file is the canonical repository of the configuration and is
the Model. The Configuration class is the Controller and is able to
read/update the Model. The GUI is just a View over the Model, and should
only do things using the Controller's API. Alternatively, you blur the
lines a bit and say the Configuration class is both the Model and the
Controller. Or you blur them differently and say the GUI class is one of
many possible Controllers and a View for this Model.

Plenty of people will argue that your Model has to be an object-oriented
wrapper around your data and must therefore be a class itself. Doesn't
bother me, but I'd just use a sensible data layout in the settings file
(JSON, XML, INI, whatever) and call it a day. Another worthwhile thing to
look at is specific libraries that read/write config files. If you use one
of these you effectively get your settings file as an object in memory, and
the API to manipulate it. That's your Controller straight up without having
to do any work. You'd then ditch your Configuration class entirely, since
the in-memory representation of the settings file provides everything you
need.

Be aware that "MVC" must be one of the most over-used and over-argued-about
acronyms of all times, so searching Stack Overflow for it will get you
nowhere.

Cheers,
Tom

On 8 May 2017 at 14:34, David Crisp <david.crisp at gmail.com> wrote:

> A problem in two parts with their own questions.   What is the terminology
> for something, and then how would I do it.
>
> My problem is that I don't know the correct Pythonic (or even general
> programming terminology) term to use to search for what I am trying to do.
> This makes it very difficult to go searching for the answer to my problem.
>
> What is the correct terminology for the following:
>
> I have a Main class that instantiates a Configuration class that handles
> reading the settings file and then setting up properties.    The same main
> class then calls a mainWindow GUI  which has a configuration gui that I
> want to be able to use and set the properties in the Configuration
> class.     I not sure what this terminology is.
>
> For what its worth, I am using PySide, converting the .ui files to python
> files and handling the gui content in python instead of the .ui file if
> that helps.
>
> In the following example each of the python files contain a single class.
> (makes for a lot of files but it seems to work in my head)
>
>     Main -\
>               | Configuration
>               |- guiMainWindow -\
>                                            |
>                                            \--guiConfigWindow
>
> Given that:
> How do I set it up so that the properties set in the configuration class
> can be accessed and set by the guiConfigWindow class?
>
> Mind you,  if I know what the correct terminology is and can find some
> well written examples I will have this problem solved before you can say
> "We needed this code last Friday,  Today was meant to be release day"
>
> I asked on StackOverflow a while ago but haven't had any responses.
> David
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From ed at pythoncharmers.com  Tue May  9 18:46:28 2017
From: ed at pythoncharmers.com (Ed Schofield)
Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 08:46:28 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] [JOB] Python contract at Cisco (Sydney)
Message-ID: <7C8C8A63-3438-4604-979D-E27AA7B73D35@pythoncharmers.com>

Hi all!

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If you're interested, please contact Kabeer Norundeen directly at kabeer at cisco.com <mailto:kabeer at cisco.com>. 

---------------

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===================
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===================
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--
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Python Charmers
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From walker.michael.luke at gmail.com  Mon May  8 00:45:23 2017
From: walker.michael.luke at gmail.com (Michael Walker)
Date: Mon, 8 May 2017 14:45:23 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python 3 and PySide shearing of properties from
 other classes
In-Reply-To: <CAG3JqCv1wnH+=57Ykrng0hwY_xMHWHMO7WvFqWo9-mW7LU0T=w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAG3JqCv1wnH+=57Ykrng0hwY_xMHWHMO7WvFqWo9-mW7LU0T=w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMoRmq8eZcHRX_yObabaanghFuKyciiJqVCNap1-LnT3L5nL1w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi David,
Off the top of my head, I'm not sure that there is a specific terminology,
but it looks to me like you need to pass a Configuration object to a
guiConfigWindow either at construction or via a Main method later. If your
code needs to be very formal then Configuration needs to have getter and
setter methods for each such property.

Michael Walker


On 8 May 2017 14:35, "David Crisp" <david.crisp at gmail.com> wrote:

A problem in two parts with their own questions.   What is the terminology
for something, and then how would I do it.

My problem is that I don't know the correct Pythonic (or even general
programming terminology) term to use to search for what I am trying to do.
This makes it very difficult to go searching for the answer to my problem.

What is the correct terminology for the following:

I have a Main class that instantiates a Configuration class that handles
reading the settings file and then setting up properties.    The same main
class then calls a mainWindow GUI  which has a configuration gui that I
want to be able to use and set the properties in the Configuration
class.     I not sure what this terminology is.

For what its worth, I am using PySide, converting the .ui files to python
files and handling the gui content in python instead of the .ui file if
that helps.

In the following example each of the python files contain a single class.
(makes for a lot of files but it seems to work in my head)

    Main -\
              | Configuration
              |- guiMainWindow -\
                                           |
                                           \--guiConfigWindow

Given that:
How do I set it up so that the properties set in the configuration class
can be accessed and set by the guiConfigWindow class?

Mind you,  if I know what the correct terminology is and can find some well
written examples I will have this problem solved before you can say "We
needed this code last Friday,  Today was meant to be release day"

I asked on StackOverflow a while ago but haven't had any responses.
David


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From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz  Fri May 12 04:41:19 2017
From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May)
Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 18:41:19 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Mysql Server has gone away
Message-ID: <87h90qtqkw.fsf@prune.linuxpenguins.xyz>

Hello,

For my personal Django based project, I am getting random test failures
on Travis, e.g.:

https://travis-ci.org/brianmay/spud/jobs/231462150

OperationalError: (2006, 'MySQL server has gone away')

The usual culprit for the message - that the server closed its
connection due to idle time out and we didn't reconnect as we were
suppose to - doesn't seem to be applicable for a sequence of automated
tests - most if not all requiring db access.

If I click restart job, it almost certainly will succeed.

I only seem to have problems with MySQL. I am inclined to disable the
mysql tests, on the assumption that is is brokenness inside Django mysql
drivers or mysql.

First I thought I would check here.

Regards.
-- 
Brian May <brian at linuxpenguins.xyz>
https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/

From ben+python at benfinney.id.au  Fri May 12 18:57:08 2017
From: ben+python at benfinney.id.au (Ben Finney)
Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 08:57:08 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] The future is looking bright for Python
Message-ID: <85inl53cqj.fsf@benfinney.id.au>

Howdy all,

This article highlights an encouraging long-term trend in Most Popular
Language [0], namely that Python has been on a steady upward climb for
many years, greater than any other language measured.

    Take 15 seconds and mouse over all the tags, starting from C# and go
    all the way down to Assembly. What do you see? I?m no data
    scientist, but to me it?s pretty obvious that Python has, by a very
    large margin, the greatest positive slope (future?). In fact, it
    appears to be only one of two languages listed here that even has a
    positive slope [?].

    <URL:https://medium.com/@trstringer/the-future-is-looking-bright-for-python-95a748a4ef3e>


[0] Most Popular Language, as measured by StackOverflow Trends
    <URL:https://insights.stackoverflow.com/trends>.

-- 
 \      ?Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex? |
  `\    It takes a touch of genius ? and a lot of courage ? to move in |
_o__)                        the opposite direction.? ?Albert Einstein |
Ben Finney


From alaa at codedemigod.com  Fri May 12 18:14:23 2017
From: alaa at codedemigod.com (Alaa Salman)
Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 08:14:23 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] melbourne-pug Digest, Vol 131, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.79.1494604805.2110.melbourne-pug@python.org>
References: <mailman.79.1494604805.2110.melbourne-pug@python.org>
Message-ID: <e041cfbf-52e3-693b-c060-0627b86aa1e5@codedemigod.com>


On 13/05/17 02:00, melbourne-pug-request at python.org wrote:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2017 18:41:19 +1000
> From: Brian May <brian at linuxpenguins.xyz>
> To: melbourne-pug at python.org
> Subject: [melbourne-pug] Mysql Server has gone away
> Message-ID: <87h90qtqkw.fsf at prune.linuxpenguins.xyz>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Hello,
>
> For my personal Django based project, I am getting random test failures
> on Travis, e.g.:
>
> https://travis-ci.org/brianmay/spud/jobs/231462150
>
> OperationalError: (2006, 'MySQL server has gone away')
>
> The usual culprit for the message - that the server closed its
> connection due to idle time out and we didn't reconnect as we were
> suppose to - doesn't seem to be applicable for a sequence of automated
> tests - most if not all requiring db access.
>
> If I click restart job, it almost certainly will succeed.
>
> I only seem to have problems with MySQL. I am inclined to disable the
> mysql tests, on the assumption that is is brokenness inside Django mysql
> drivers or mysql.
>
> First I thought I would check here.
>
> Regards.

Hey Ben,

Are you able to check if you're reaching the connection limits somehow? 
It might be that you're exhausting the pool. That's the first thing I 
would try; increase the pool size to see if it has any effect and that 
would tell me how to proceed in finding the problem.

I usually advise that people stay away from mysql due to negative 
personal experience. Or you might be right that there's something broken 
within the driver. But unless your tests are doing some black magic, an 
error like this(connection issue so everyone using mysql would face) is 
likely to have a simpler explanation.


-- 
Regards,
Alaa Salman
+61413852057
http://www.codedemigod.com


From brian at linuxpenguins.xyz  Sat May 13 07:30:07 2017
From: brian at linuxpenguins.xyz (Brian May)
Date: Sat, 13 May 2017 21:30:07 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] melbourne-pug Digest, Vol 131, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <e041cfbf-52e3-693b-c060-0627b86aa1e5@codedemigod.com>
References: <mailman.79.1494604805.2110.melbourne-pug@python.org>
 <e041cfbf-52e3-693b-c060-0627b86aa1e5@codedemigod.com>
Message-ID: <87ziehro3k.fsf@prune.linuxpenguins.xyz>

Alaa Salman <alaa at codedemigod.com> writes:

> Are you able to check if you're reaching the connection limits somehow? 
> It might be that you're exhausting the pool. That's the first thing I 
> would try; increase the pool size to see if it has any effect and that 
> would tell me how to proceed in finding the problem.

I assume you mean server connection limits?

Hmmm. Interesting thought, testing might create one connection for each
test. Not sure. There were about 174 tests when this test was run.

I would have hoped to get a "Too many connections" error however.

Unfortunately this is a mysql server automatically setup by travis, not
sure if there is any easy way to get or change the settings. Which could
mean this is a case of tests failing due to (a) inefficient use of
sockets during the tests and (b) not enough connections in the default
travis config.

Interesting enought the tests that fail take almost 6 minutes instead of
almost 3 minutes. No idea if this somehow is the cause of the failure or
a symptom of the failure (e.g. we spend 3 minutes trying to reconnect
for same insane reason).

Also no idea why is seems to be random.
-- 
Brian May <brian at linuxpenguins.xyz>
https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/

From levi.cameron at alliancesoftware.com.au  Sun May 14 19:45:19 2017
From: levi.cameron at alliancesoftware.com.au (Levi Cameron)
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 09:45:19 +1000
Subject: [melbourne-pug] melbourne-pug Digest, Vol 131, Issue 8
In-Reply-To: <mailman.79.1494604805.2110.melbourne-pug@python.org>
References: <mailman.79.1494604805.2110.melbourne-pug@python.org>
Message-ID: <CAFmbndXQKiCXDEv4Hg509Qz8gvWYUHd+b4yDuVkDAZsk9CODKA@mail.gmail.com>

> For my personal Django based project, I am getting random test failures
> on Travis, e.g.:
>
> https://travis-ci.org/brianmay/spud/jobs/231462150
>
> OperationalError: (2006, 'MySQL server has gone away')
>
> The usual culprit for the message - that the server closed its
> connection due to idle time out and we didn't reconnect as we were
> suppose to - doesn't seem to be applicable for a sequence of automated
> tests - most if not all requiring db access.
>
> If I click restart job, it almost certainly will succeed.
>
>
That message can be triggered by more than just an idle timeout.

Whenever I've encountered this it's almost always because the SQL query was
too big (typically inserting/updating a large blob, or a very large 'WHERE
x IN (1,2,3,..)' clause)

https://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.7/en/packet-too-large.html


(Although without knowing the test case in detail I would have expected it
would fail consistently)





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Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 18:54:29 +1000
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Levi Cameron <levi.cameron at alliancesoftware.com.au> writes:

> (Although without knowing the test case in detail I would have expected it
> would fail consistently)

Yes, this is what gets to me. The tests themselves are pretty
consistant, and do the same things everytime.
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