[melbourne-pug] Any value in recruiters job posts?

[Anthony Briggs]

Hi Sebastian,

My personal experience is that recruiters don't provide much, if any, value.

The only job that I've sourced through a recruiter was a terrible, *terrible
*PHP job that I quit after a week. I did have several interviews at around
the same time, but a) you need to be head and shoulders above the
competition for them to consider you, given recruiter's fees (~20% of the
annual salary IIRC), and b) if you *are *head and shoulders above, then
you'll be getting cold calls from various companies anyway and/or will be a
relative shoe-in at most interviews.

I've managed to get off most recruiter books after several years of working
on my own stuff, but I used to get a raft of calls from them whenever a
senior Python position came up. At one place I worked, it became a game to
try and figure out the originating company given a particularly lazy
cut+paste position from Seek or wherever.

There may be some companies that work solely through a recruiter, but good
luck filtering those out from the spam.

Hope that helps,

Anthony



On 6 July 2016 at 13:08, Kiran Busi <kiran.busi at gmail.com> wrote:

> If the job is is specific to a real role, not generic information farming,
> then I see it having some value.
>
> That said, I much prefer dealing with companies directly vs a recruiter.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Sebastian Pawluś <
> sebastian.pawlus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> This might be odd question to ask here, since the list about Python and
>> should probably stay as one. But living in Europe I don't know anyone from
>> this part of the world and as Python programmer myself I know how Python
>> community is a friendly entity ;)
>>
>> Anyway, the real thing is.
>>
>> A while ago I created an aggregator for jobs (like all it jobs). It's
>> called https://whoishiring.io, then short after a person on the twitter
>> suggested that I should add www.seek.com.au as a source, and I did just
>> that.
>>
>> But then I've found out that a lot (a lot
>> <https://whoishiring.io/search/-32.491/147.437/3/?order=distance>) of
>> this jobs are from recruiters companies. I even created a blacklist
>> <https://gist.github.com/xando/6e3a4de512f45259667833cfbb09420f> and
>> planning to filter against it and exclude those jobs from listing. I don't
>> like them, the website was created to increase visibility of job posts, by
>> covering real company name with theirs they secretly not helping, and the
>> list of problems with it recruiters is longer.
>>
>> The real question is should I do it. Should I filter recruiters out from
>> this part of the world? Do you guys see any values in those jobs posts, are
>> recruiters as bad and annoying as here?
>>
>> Again if this not something that should go on the list, apologies. But
>> still I would like to know the your opinion so private emails welcome.
>>
>> Best,
>> Sebastian Pawluś.
>>
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