[melbourne-pug] Code of Conduct for MPUG

[Javier Candeira]

Thanks, Harriet, for your support.

I never know where the line is between encouraging and pestering,
however. To the people I've chased for months until I got a
presentation out of you: apologies if it was the second.

So, since this seems to be the thread: please submit ideas for talks,
and encourage your female friends/colleagues to atend/present!

The designated introducer: we used to do rounds of introductions, but
we kinda collectively lost the habit. We should probably start again.
Thanks for the reminder!

Cheers,

Javier

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Harriet Dashnow <h.dashnow at gmail.com> wrote:
> Another +1 for the code of conduct. It shows you're thinking about these
> issues and being proactive.
>
> If you're looking for ways to improve gender balance, one great strategy is
> to actively seek out and invite female speakers. You could also ask current
> members to encourage their female friends/colleagues to attend. It can be
> intimidating to break into a new group, let alone one where you feel like
> the odd one out. Maybe designate someone each week to make sure new people
> feel welcome (introduce them to people etc.)?
>
> Just some thoughts...
>
> Warm regards,
> Harriet
>
> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Juan.
>>
>> As a university instructor, I can only think there is something we're
>> doing wrong, both in unis and in local groups, because the ratio is
>> even worse at MPUG than at my 1st year classes.
>>
>> And it's still better than at the last two places I've worked at...
>>
>> Anyway, this is not just about gender balance. For instance, in my uni
>> classes I remember many international students, let's call them
>> "non-English as a first language". The ratio in local groups is much,
>> much lower. In such a multicultural city!
>>
>> A Code of Conduct is only a small step. More ideas welcome.
>>
>> Javier
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Juan Nunez-Iglesias <jni.soma at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > +1 for this!
>> >
>> > As you say, no *reported* incidents doesn't mean no need. In fact, I was
>> > appalled that there was just one woman in the room when I talked about
>> > SciPy's diversity problem last year. I hope a code of conduct is just
>> > our
>> > first effort to improve diversity in our monthly meetings.
>> >
>> > Thank you!
>> >
>> > Juan.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 7:51 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Today, reading Kathy Levinson's powerful piece on sexism and
>> >> whistleblowing [1], I've realised that MPUG doesn't have a Code of
>> >> Conduct.
>> >>
>> >> [1]
>> >>
>> >> https://medium.com/@katylevinson/sexism-in-tech-don-t-ask-me-unless-you-re-ready-to-call-somebody-a-whistleblower-e5d545e547b0
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, "we've never have had problems in the past" yada yada, but I've
>> >> never had to file a police report for assault either, that doesn't
>> >> mean laws on assault aren't needed. So I'd like to add a reference to
>> >> a Code of Conduct to our wiki page, and to mention that the organisers
>> >> will personally do our best to enforce it.
>> >>
>> >> I like Pycon's CoC [2], but it mentions Pycon and Linux Australia,
>> >> which have nothing to do with us, except we're a Python User Group and
>> >> some of us also attend those... hardly a legal afiliation. I also
>> >> like the Apache Foundationś CoC [3], though it's a bit too long. What
>> >> the Pycon one loses in exhaustiveness, it gains in brevity.
>> >>
>> >> [2] http://2013.pycon-au.org/register/code_of_conduct
>> >> [3] https://www.apache.org/foundation/policies/conduct.html
>> >>
>> >> I'd definitely much rather not have to write and maintain a CoC
>> >> myself. Any idea of a clean "white-label" CoC that we can just link
>> >> to? I know, lazy, but I'd like to get this done tonight.
>> >>
>> >> If no suggestion comes for a better solution, I'll add a line to the
>> >> wiki stating that MPUG meetings are not ran by Pycon or Linux
>> >> Australia, but its organisers adhere to Pycon's Code of Conduct in
>> >> matters of civility and inclusivity.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> Javier
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