From chrisjrn at gmail.com Mon Jun 1 00:32:23 2015 From: chrisjrn at gmail.com (Christopher Neugebauer) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 08:32:23 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Financial assistance for PyCon Australia 2015 now available! Message-ID: PyCon Australia 2015's financial assistance programme has opened! Financial assistance is the cornerstone of the conference's outreach programme -- the programme helps us to fund registration, travel, and accommodation expenses for deserving applicants. In doing so, we're helping to put PyCon Australia within reach of everyone who wants to attend. If you'd enjoy PyCon Australia, or the Australian Python community would benefit from you coming to the conference, we'd love you to come along. You can find out more about the specifics of the programme on our site at http://2015.pycon-au.org/grants PyCon Australia strongly encourages people to apply for financial assistance -- even if we can?t cover all of your expenses, we will give you free admission based on need. The application process is simple, and straight?for?ward. It?s also very liberal -- the only caveat is that speakers at the conference "get bumped to the top" of the applications so that we don?t lose a good talk because of financial need. We also don?t ban anyone from applying. Anyone interested in attending PyCon Australia is eligible to apply for financial assistance. Grants are allocated on the basis of need, and applications will be assessed by our financial assistance panel. In short, anyone whose attendance at PyCon Australia will help improve the Python community in Australia, or around the world, is invited to apply. To apply for financial assistance, fill out our application form, which you can find at http://2015.pycon-au.org/grants. The first round of applications will be considered after Friday 12 June 2015; the second round of applications will be considered after Friday 26 June, 2015. -- --Christopher Neugebauer Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn From _ at chrisjrn.com Mon Jun 1 00:28:35 2015 From: _ at chrisjrn.com (Christopher Neugebauer) Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 22:28:35 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Financial assistance for PyCon Australia 2015 now available! Message-ID: PyCon Australia 2015's financial assistance programme has opened! Financial assistance is the cornerstone of the conference's outreach programme -- the programme helps us to fund registration, travel, and accommodation expenses for deserving applicants. In doing so, we're helping to put PyCon Australia within reach of everyone who wants to attend. If you'd enjoy PyCon Australia, or the Australian Python community would benefit from you coming to the conference, we'd love you to come along. You can find out more about the specifics of the programme on our site at http://2015.pycon-au.org/grants PyCon Australia strongly encourages people to apply for financial assistance -- even if we can?t cover all of your expenses, we will give you free admission based on need. The application process is simple, and straight?for?ward. It?s also very liberal -- the only caveat is that speakers at the conference "get bumped to the top" of the applications so that we don?t lose a good talk because of financial need. We also don?t ban anyone from applying. Anyone interested in attending PyCon Australia is eligible to apply for financial assistance. Grants are allocated on the basis of need, and applications will be assessed by our financial assistance panel. In short, anyone whose attendance at PyCon Australia will help improve the Python community in Australia, or around the world, is invited to apply. To apply for financial assistance, fill out our application form, which you can find at http://2015.pycon-au.org/grants. The first round of applications will be considered after Friday 12 June 2015; the second round of applications will be considered after Friday 26 June, 2015. -- --Christopher Neugebauer Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn From ed at pythoncharmers.com Mon Jun 1 08:20:39 2015 From: ed at pythoncharmers.com (Ed Schofield) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 16:20:39 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python Meetup, Monday 1 June at 6pm Message-ID: Hi all, The Melbourne Python Users Group will be meeting again this evening from 6pm. Sorry for the late reminder! There will be a good attendance according to the Meetup page. We have one talk scheduled so far: - Interactive visualisation in Python (Ed Schofield) and we still have a free talk slot. If you'd like to present, please step forward! We'll also have some lightning talks, and then catch up over pizza as usual. Where: Inspire9, level 1, 41 Stewart Street, Richmond Hope to see you there! Cheers, Ed -- Dr. Edward Schofield Python Charmers http://pythoncharmers.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben+python at benfinney.id.au Mon Jun 1 08:59:03 2015 From: ben+python at benfinney.id.au (Ben Finney) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 16:59:03 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python Meetup, Monday 1 June at 6pm References: Message-ID: <851thvx6bs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Ed Schofield writes: > There will be a good attendance according to the Meetup page. We have > one talk scheduled so far: > > - Interactive visualisation in Python (Ed Schofield) > > and we still have a free talk slot. If you'd like to present, please > step forward! Darn it, I forgot this was on and am double-booked. Will the presentations be recorded and posted online as audio/video? -- \ ?[The RIAA] have the patience to keep stomping. They're playing | `\ whack-a-mole with an infinite supply of tokens.? ?kennon, | _o__) http://kuro5hin.org/ | Ben Finney From h.dashnow at gmail.com Mon Jun 1 09:26:58 2015 From: h.dashnow at gmail.com (Harriet Dashnow) Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 17:26:58 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python Meetup, Monday 1 June at 6pm In-Reply-To: <851thvx6bs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <851thvx6bs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: Same here. Didn't see an email so assumed it wasn't on. I am curious about the Interactive visualisation! Will definitely be looking out for the notes/summary afterwards. On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Ed Schofield writes: > > > There will be a good attendance according to the Meetup page. We have > > one talk scheduled so far: > > > > - Interactive visualisation in Python (Ed Schofield) > > > > and we still have a free talk slot. If you'd like to present, please > > step forward! > > Darn it, I forgot this was on and am double-booked. > > Will the presentations be recorded and posted online as audio/video? > > -- > \ ?[The RIAA] have the patience to keep stomping. They're playing | > `\ whack-a-mole with an infinite supply of tokens.? ?kennon, | > _o__) http://kuro5hin.org/ | > Ben Finney > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- Harriet Dashnow President, COMBINE BSc, BA, MSc (Bioinformatics), PhD candidate au.linkedin.com/in/hdashnow -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 04:31:38 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 12:31:38 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, Thanks for the responses. I appreciate the argument about harm minimisation, and the position that 'best interests' rather than majority rule is appropriate in some circumstances. Those are both valid points. Regardless of that, there is not a clear majority supporting changing the current settings. I personally don't believe that list settings really fulfil the goal of providing information security to emails. I think people are responsible for checking their own correspondence. This is a public forum, and its main purpose to provide a social forum for people to interact in. I agree that hitting 'reply all' is a common failure mode, but I would rather optimise for the common usage case. At this stage I don't plan to modify the current settings. Regards, -Tennessee On 26 May 2015 at 22:20, David Nugent wrote: > > On 26 May 2015, at 4:32 am, Ben Finney > wrote: > > > > Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: > > > >> Six of one, half a dozen of the other. > > > > It really isn't, though. Setting ?Reply-To? to the mailing list is > > significantly more harmful than leaving that field alone. > > > ^^ This. > > > > * The failure mode of ?don't do anything with Reply-To? is that > > sometimes people send a message to an individual, that they *intended* > > to go more public. > > > > * The failure mode of ?set Reply-To to the mailing list? is that > > sometimes people send a message publicly, that they *intended* to be > > private to an individual. > > Adding: > > * Changing a Reply-To also overwrites the original author?s Reply-To, > which may be contrary to the purpose of setting it (admittedly doing so in > a ?public? mailing list is kinda silly and you?d expect it would not work > as it should). Still, i?m old school enough to maintain the view that when > it comes to email headers, correctness is important - anything else quickly > leads to non-standard behaviour. Kinda like complaining after the horse has > bolted (20+ years on! :-)). Old, old argument in any case, and status quo > is probably a good idea. > > Good luck Brian, btw. Might be in the same position myself soon... > > Cheers, > /d > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben+python at benfinney.id.au Wed Jun 3 04:44:53 2015 From: ben+python at benfinney.id.au (Ben Finney) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 12:44:53 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: > Thanks for the responses. I appreciate the argument about harm > minimisation, and the position that 'best interests' rather than > majority rule is appropriate in some circumstances. Those are both > valid points. What of the point that this is a decision to be made by an administrator informed about the issues, and not by popular appeal? > Regardless of that, there is not a clear majority supporting changing > the current settings. It seems you dismiss the idea that the administrator should do what is best based on the facts and trade-offs, whether or not it is most popular. You defer that responsibility instead to whichever group marshals the most voices. That's a disappointment. -- \ ?People always ask me, ?Where were you when Kennedy was shot?? | `\ Well, I don't have an alibi.? ?Emo Philips | _o__) | Ben Finney From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 04:50:51 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 12:50:51 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: Hi Ben, I am genuinely not sure I understand your criticism. I don't think that what you are saying applies to my decision in this case. I don't think I have deferred responsibility. Deferring responsibility would have been to not reply. I am concerned about whether we have the same understanding of the basic facts and arguments. Please feel free to email me off list or even give me a ring to discuss. Regards, -Tennessee On 3 June 2015 at 12:44, Ben Finney wrote: > Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: > > > Thanks for the responses. I appreciate the argument about harm > > minimisation, and the position that 'best interests' rather than > > majority rule is appropriate in some circumstances. Those are both > > valid points. > > What of the point that this is a decision to be made by an administrator > informed about the issues, and not by popular appeal? > > > Regardless of that, there is not a clear majority supporting changing > > the current settings. > > It seems you dismiss the idea that the administrator should do what is > best based on the facts and trade-offs, whether or not it is most > popular. You defer that responsibility instead to whichever group > marshals the most voices. > > That's a disappointment. > > -- > \ ?People always ask me, ?Where were you when Kennedy was shot?? | > `\ Well, I don't have an alibi.? ?Emo Philips | > _o__) | > Ben Finney > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skippy.hammond at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 04:54:06 2015 From: skippy.hammond at gmail.com (Mark Hammond) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 12:54:06 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: <556E6C4E.9050309@gmail.com> On 3/06/2015 12:44 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: > >> Thanks for the responses. I appreciate the argument about harm >> minimisation, and the position that 'best interests' rather than >> majority rule is appropriate in some circumstances. Those are both >> valid points. > > What of the point that this is a decision to be made by an administrator > informed about the issues, and not by popular appeal? The term is "administrator" for a reason - I'd expect popular appeal to have weight. The administrator of such lists generously serves the community, not the other way around. >> Regardless of that, there is not a clear majority supporting changing >> the current settings. > > It seems you dismiss the idea that the administrator should do what is > best based on the facts and trade-offs, whether or not it is most > popular. You defer that responsibility instead to whichever group > marshals the most voices. That's not how I read it - Tennessee offered his opinion, noted it agreed with the majority of voices, and indicated he would not be changing the status quo. The system works! > That's a disappointment. To be frank, it sounds to me like you attempted to frame this discussion in the way you wanted it framed, then expressed disappointment your it didn't go your way. For the record, I agree completely with both Tennessee and those voices (while being constantly amazed at the this kind of adminstrivia completely swamps the actual melbourne-pug content) Mark From jni.soma at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 04:55:06 2015 From: jni.soma at gmail.com (Juan Nunez-Iglesias) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: <1433300105978.ce5e513a@Nodemailer> Ben, Tennessee did not defer responsibility. ?His point is that both positions are valid. In the absence of a *clear* *net* benefit, he will not change the settings. This is not about majority but about the case not being as clear cut as you make it out to be. ? Sent from Mailbox On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Ben Finney wrote: > Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: >> Thanks for the responses. I appreciate the argument about harm >> minimisation, and the position that 'best interests' rather than >> majority rule is appropriate in some circumstances. Those are both >> valid points. > What of the point that this is a decision to be made by an administrator > informed about the issues, and not by popular appeal? >> Regardless of that, there is not a clear majority supporting changing >> the current settings. > It seems you dismiss the idea that the administrator should do what is > best based on the facts and trade-offs, whether or not it is most > popular. You defer that responsibility instead to whichever group > marshals the most voices. > That's a disappointment. > -- > \ ?People always ask me, ?Where were you when Kennedy was shot?? | > `\ Well, I don't have an alibi.? ?Emo Philips | > _o__) | > Ben Finney > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.larooy at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 04:58:29 2015 From: john.larooy at gmail.com (John La Rooy) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 12:58:29 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks Tennessee for your admin/moderation work on the list. I believe the primary purpose of this mailing list should be a mailing list. I agree it makes no sense to make replying to the list an exceptional behaviour. In fact I think it's harmful to the list as useful replies can get lost if people forget to reply to the list. If people want to treat a mailing list as a job board then they need to take extra care. If they feel they really need the mailing list to protect them from that, I'd suggest that we just ban job adverts as lots of other mailing lists do. Regards, John La Rooy -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at microcomaustralia.com.au Wed Jun 3 05:05:41 2015 From: brian at microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:05:41 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 at 12:39 Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > I personally don't believe that list settings really fulfil the goal of > providing information security to emails. I think people are responsible > for checking their own correspondence. This is a public forum, and its main > purpose to provide a social forum for people to interact in. I agree that > hitting 'reply all' is a common failure mode, but I would rather optimise > for the common usage case. > It isn't "Reply All" that has this problem - that is suppose to go to everyone. It is "Reply" that has this problem. With reply-to set, the only way to get a private reply with many clients is to manually copy and paste the senders address. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cjlmac at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 05:36:05 2015 From: cjlmac at gmail.com (Chris Maclachlan) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:36:05 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yes, because its a mailing list. On 3 Jun 2015 1:06 pm, "Brian May" wrote: > On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 at 12:39 Tennessee Leeuwenburg > wrote: > >> I personally don't believe that list settings really fulfil the goal of >> providing information security to emails. I think people are responsible >> for checking their own correspondence. This is a public forum, and its main >> purpose to provide a social forum for people to interact in. I agree that >> hitting 'reply all' is a common failure mode, but I would rather optimise >> for the common usage case. >> > > It isn't "Reply All" that has this problem - that is suppose to go to > everyone. It is "Reply" that has this problem. > > With reply-to set, the only way to get a private reply with many clients > is to manually copy and paste the senders address. > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian at microcomaustralia.com.au Wed Jun 3 05:54:59 2015 From: brian at microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:54:59 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] last post In-Reply-To: <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <85vbfgwlrk.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <03E8F28E-3A57-4511-BF40-3BECB80851C7@gmail.com> <85wpzlv7bu.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 at 12:45 Ben Finney wrote: > It seems you dismiss the idea that the administrator should do what is > best based on the facts and trade-offs, whether or not it is most > popular. You defer that responsibility instead to whichever group > marshals the most voices. > This will be my last post on the matter. I suspect many people for setting "reply-to" have this misconception "that would never happen to me" or "but this is a public mailing list". It isn't until it does happen to you that you realize the hidden dangers. Yes, the chances of this happening are low, however the risks are high. Even if everybody subscribed to this mailing list acts in a professional and understanding manner when a mistake was made, the archives are available indefinitely for anyone to look at. What is missing is concrete examples. Lets say for example I thought that person XYZ's public post was abusive. So I intend to write him a private message to complain about his behaviour. Only my anger was due to a misunderstanding, and in my moment of anger didn't realize the email was going to the mailing list. In fact, the reply-to makes it rather inconvenient to send private replies. So suddenly I have potentially damaged XYZ's reputation and my reputation over a stupid misunderstanding. Yes, it could be argued that people should read the full thread before coming to any conclusion, including my follow-up apology; however many won't - and if the apology crossed a month boundary, the mailing list archives won't have a direct link either. I actually don't care any more, and I subscribe to many different mailing lists with different policies that you really can't trust "reply" or "reply group" functions to do the right thing. Actually it is shame that most mail clients don't handle mailing lists in a better way, mutt for example has a list reply function that automatically extracts the list-id header and sends the email to that address. (mutt also has a ignore_list_reply_to setting but unfortunately that doesn't appear to look at the list-id header and has to be manually configured with a list of mailing lists; might try to file a bug on that) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 3 June 2015 at 12:58, Andrew Stuart wrote: > Here?s what Barry Warsaw (Mailman lead developer) has said on the topic: > > > http://wiki.list.org/DOC/What%20about%20setting%20a%20%22Reply-To-%22%20header%20for%20the%20list%3F > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 06:25:07 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 14:25:07 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] reply-to header on mailing list In-Reply-To: References: <674D885D-98AD-4C68-B4BB-AC89FF8606C6@supercoders.com.au> Message-ID: Hmmm looks complicated. Seems like we could be better off with a Facebook group. On 3 June 2015 at 14:10, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > +1 informative > > I will happily do some further reading. > > On 3 June 2015 at 12:58, Andrew Stuart > wrote: > >> Here?s what Barry Warsaw (Mailman lead developer) has said on the topic: >> >> >> http://wiki.list.org/DOC/What%20about%20setting%20a%20%22Reply-To-%22%20header%20for%20the%20list%3F >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Wed Jun 3 07:01:16 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 15:01:16 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] reply-to header on mailing list In-Reply-To: References: <674D885D-98AD-4C68-B4BB-AC89FF8606C6@supercoders.com.au> Message-ID: Hey, Turns out it's a slow day and I'm enjoying learning a little about mailing list administration. Mostly my gig here is just approving non-subscribed emails, so my mailman-fu is not strong. Nobody gave me any firm parameters for what being a list admin really entails, so I'm just going with my best judgment and by the way there are other list admins too. After completing the reading assignment, I have some more questions. There is clear direction from the Internet Gods that reply-to munging continues to spark discussion. Here are my questions. When I read emails now, in gmail, the sender is something like "Joe Subscriber via python.org", and there is just one sender -- no CC, nothing. The sender is the list, and I treat replies as though I'm on a bulletin board. The fact the message come from a list is clearly marked in the 'via' field, plus of course in the subject line where [melbourne-pug] is clearly added. What happens to incoming mail if (a) I set reply-to to be the poster (i.e. do not munge) (b) I set reply-to to be a specific and invalid email address The downside of not munging (as I now understand things) is the general confusion arising from sending emails *only* to the poster, then correcting afterwards, possibly some time later (if it is recognised at all). Well, according to the Zen of Python, errors should not pass silently! Would it be technically possible to set things up so that reply-all goes to the list, but there simple is no valid reply-to address at all? Luddites like me would be slowly trained to hit 'reply all', with pseudo-instant feedback. Those who hit 'reply' without thinking about who the message is going to (or with a very specific understanding of the term 'reply') will also get instant feedback and will not broadcast their private messages to all and sundry. Feel free to direct further conversations to me directly (note -- not by hitting reply!) and we can take some of the noise off the list. I continue to leave the settings unmodified while the discussion goes on. Cheers, -T On 3 June 2015 at 14:25, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > Hmmm looks complicated. Seems like we could be better off with a Facebook > group. > > > > > > On 3 June 2015 at 14:10, Tennessee Leeuwenburg > wrote: > >> +1 informative >> >> I will happily do some further reading. >> >> On 3 June 2015 at 12:58, Andrew Stuart >> wrote: >> >>> Here?s what Barry Warsaw (Mailman lead developer) has said on the topic: >>> >>> >>> http://wiki.list.org/DOC/What%20about%20setting%20a%20%22Reply-To-%22%20header%20for%20the%20list%3F >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Tennessee Leeuwenburg >> http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ >> "Don't believe everything you think" >> > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is > clear direction from the Internet Gods that reply-to munging continues > to spark discussion. Here are my questions. > > When I read emails now, in gmail, the sender is something like "Joe > Subscriber via python.org ", and there is just one > sender -- no CC, nothing. The sender is the list, and I treat replies as > though I'm on a bulletin board. The fact the message come from a list is > clearly marked in the 'via' field, plus of course in the subject line > where [melbourne-pug] is clearly added. > > What happens to incoming mail if > ? (a) I set reply-to to be the poster (i.e. do not munge) > ? (b) I set reply-to to be a specific and invalid email address > > The downside of not munging (as I now understand things) is the general > confusion arising from sending emails *only* to the poster, then > correcting afterwards, possibly some time later (if it is recognised at > all). Well, according to the Zen of Python, errors should not pass > silently! Would it be technically possible to set things up so that > reply-all goes to the list, but there simple is no valid reply-to > address at all? > > Luddites like me would be slowly trained to hit 'reply all', with > pseudo-instant feedback. Those who hit 'reply' without thinking about > who the message is going to (or with a very specific understanding of > the term 'reply') will also get instant feedback and will not broadcast > their private messages to all and sundry. > > Feel free to direct further conversations to me directly (note -- not by > hitting reply!) and we can take some of the noise off the list.? > > I continue to leave the settings unmodified while the discussion goes on. > > Cheers, > -T > > > > On 3 June 2015 at 14:25, Tennessee Leeuwenburg > wrote: > > Hmmm looks complicated. Seems like we could be better off with a > Facebook group. > > > > > > On 3 June 2015 at 14:10, Tennessee Leeuwenburg > > wrote: > > +1 informative > > I will happily do some further reading.? > > On 3 June 2015 at 12:58, Andrew Stuart > > wrote: > > Here???s what Barry Warsaw (Mailman lead developer) has said > on the topic: > > http://wiki.list.org/DOC/What%20about%20setting%20a%20%22Reply-To-%22%20header%20for%20the%20list%3F > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Thu Jun 4 07:02:05 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:02:05 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Any interest in a tutorial night? Message-ID: Hi all, I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, "Applied Data Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after the conference? Before would let me get some practise and knock off the rough edges, but I would be happy with either. It will be a 90 minute tutorial. Regards, -Tennessee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miked at dewhirst.com.au Thu Jun 4 07:20:02 2015 From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:20:02 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Any interest in a tutorial night? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <556FE002.4080105@dewhirst.com.au> Tennessee Yes please. Whenever ... Mike On 4/06/2015 3:02 PM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, "Applied Data > Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my delivering > this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after the conference? > Before would let me get some practise and knock off the rough edges, but > I would be happy with either. It will be a 90 minute tutorial. > > Regards, > -Tennessee > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From ben+python at benfinney.id.au Thu Jun 4 07:55:15 2015 From: ben+python at benfinney.id.au (Ben Finney) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:55:15 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Any interest in a tutorial night? References: Message-ID: <85oakwuif0.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: > I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, "Applied Data > Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my > delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after the > conference? I'd like to attend this. Given that it's quite long, occupying the majority of an available evening, would it be a good idea to choose a different week? Maybe mid-way between the regular meetings. Say, Monday 2015-06-15. -- \ ?As the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed, | `\ the Internet deserves the highest protection from governmental | _o__) intrusion.? ?U.S. District Court Judge Dalzell | Ben Finney From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Mon Jun 8 05:09:39 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 13:09:39 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Any interest in a tutorial night? In-Reply-To: <85oakwuif0.fsf@benfinney.id.au> References: <85oakwuif0.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: Great idea, Ben. I think an off-night makes sense. I haven't liaised with Inspire9 about organising a meeting -- who is our current contact there? I'll see what's involved in setting it up. On 4 June 2015 at 15:55, Ben Finney wrote: > Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: > > > I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, "Applied Data > > Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my > > delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after the > > conference? > > I'd like to attend this. > > Given that it's quite long, occupying the majority of an available > evening, would it be a good idea to choose a different week? > > Maybe mid-way between the regular meetings. Say, Monday 2015-06-15. > > -- > \ ?As the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed, | > `\ the Internet deserves the highest protection from governmental | > _o__) intrusion.? ?U.S. District Court Judge Dalzell | > Ben Finney > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From miked at dewhirst.com.au Mon Jun 8 06:11:38 2015 From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 14:11:38 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Any interest in a tutorial night? In-Reply-To: References: <85oakwuif0.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: <557515FA.1020103@dewhirst.com.au> Tennessee If it is next week I'll need to withdraw. Won't be around at all. Cheers Mike On 8/06/2015 1:09 PM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > Great idea, Ben. I think an off-night makes sense.? > > I haven't liaised with Inspire9 about organising a meeting -- who is our > current contact there? I'll see what's involved in setting it up. > > On 4 June 2015 at 15:55, Ben Finney > wrote: > > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > writes: > > > I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, "Applied Data > > Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my > > delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after the > > conference? > > I'd like to attend this. > > Given that it's quite long, occupying the majority of an available > evening, would it be a good idea to choose a different week? > > Maybe mid-way between the regular meetings. Say, Monday 2015-06-15. > > -- > ? \? ? ? ? ???As the most participatory form of mass speech yet > developed, | > ? `\? ? the Internet deserves the highest protection from > governmental | > _o__)? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? intrusion.??? ???U.S. District > Court Judge Dalzell | > Ben Finney > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From alec at lookahead.com.au Mon Jun 8 05:57:36 2015 From: alec at lookahead.com.au (Alec Sloman) Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 03:57:36 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Any interest in a tutorial night? In-Reply-To: References: <85oakwuif0.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: I am close with both Melina Chan and Pat Alan of inspire9. I would be happy to assist, if required. On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 13:09 Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > Great idea, Ben. I think an off-night makes sense. > > I haven't liaised with Inspire9 about organising a meeting -- who is our > current contact there? I'll see what's involved in setting it up. > > On 4 June 2015 at 15:55, Ben Finney wrote: > >> Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: >> >> > I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, "Applied Data >> > Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my >> > delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after the >> > conference? >> >> I'd like to attend this. >> >> Given that it's quite long, occupying the majority of an available >> evening, would it be a good idea to choose a different week? >> >> Maybe mid-way between the regular meetings. 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I was wondering what interest there might be in my >> > delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after >> the >> > conference? >> >> I'd like to attend this. >> >> Given that it's quite long, occupying the majority of an available >> evening, would it be a good idea to choose a different week? >> >> Maybe mid-way between the regular meetings. Say, Monday 2015-06-15. >> >> -- >> ? \? ? ? ? ???As the most participatory form of mass speech yet >> developed, | >> ? `\? ? the Internet deserves the highest protection from >> governmental | >> _o__)? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? intrusion.?? ???U.S. District >> Court Judge Dalzell | >> Ben Finney >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> >> >> >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Tennessee Leeuwenburg >> http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ >> "Don't believe everything you think" >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> >> > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm finding the events page a little confusing -- I take it there is no charge for community events? I've been involved occasionally in helping run MPUG on the day, but never actually handled the room booking side of things. Is there anything legal to be signed, or do they take care of all of that? Regards, -Tennessee On 8 June 2015 at 13:57, Alec Sloman wrote: > I am close with both Melina Chan and Pat Alan of inspire9. > > I would be happy to assist, if required. > > On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 13:09 Tennessee Leeuwenburg > wrote: > >> Great idea, Ben. I think an off-night makes sense. >> >> I haven't liaised with Inspire9 about organising a meeting -- who is our >> current contact there? I'll see what's involved in setting it up. >> >> On 4 June 2015 at 15:55, Ben Finney wrote: >> >>> Tennessee Leeuwenburg writes: >>> >>> > I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, "Applied Data >>> > Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my >>> > delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before or after the >>> > conference? >>> >>> I'd like to attend this. >>> >>> Given that it's quite long, occupying the majority of an available >>> evening, would it be a good idea to choose a different week? >>> >>> Maybe mid-way between the regular meetings. Say, Monday 2015-06-15. >>> >>> -- >>> \ ?As the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed, | >>> `\ the Internet deserves the highest protection from governmental | >>> _o__) intrusion.? ?U.S. District Court Judge Dalzell | >>> Ben Finney >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> -------------------------------------------------- >> Tennessee Leeuwenburg >> http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ >> "Don't believe everything you think" >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Would your tutorial help get me over the learning hump? I don't want to become a career statistician just tackle a few datasets. Thanks Mike > > On 8 June 2015 at 14:11, Mike Dewhirst > wrote: > > Tennessee > > If it is next week I'll need to withdraw. Won't be around at all. > > Cheers > > Mike > > On 8/06/2015 1:09 PM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > > Great idea, Ben. I think an off-night makes sense.?? > > I haven't liaised with Inspire9 about organising a meeting -- > who is our > current contact there? I'll see what's involved in setting it up. > > On 4 June 2015 at 15:55, Ben Finney > >> wrote: > > ? ? Tennessee Leeuwenburg > ? ? >> writes: > > ? ? > I have a tutorial accepted at PyCon AU this year, > "Applied Data > ? ? > Science". I was wondering what interest there might be in my > ? ? > delivering this at one of the MPUG nights, either before > or after the > ? ? > conference? > > ? ? I'd like to attend this. > > ? ? Given that it's quite long, occupying the majority of an > available > ? ? evening, would it be a good idea to choose a different week? > > ? ? Maybe mid-way between the regular meetings. Say, Monday > 2015-06-15. > > ? ? -- > ? ? ?? \??? ??? ??? ?? ???????As the most participatory > form of mass speech yet > ? ? developed, | > ? ? ??? `\??? ??? the Internet deserves the highest > protection from > ? ? governmental | > ? ? _o__)??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ?? > intrusion.?????? ????????U.S. District > ? ? Court Judge Dalzell | > ? ? Ben Finney > > ? ? _______________________________________________ > ? ? melbourne-pug mailing list > ? ? melbourne-pug at python.org > > > ? ? https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From chrisjrn at gmail.com Tue Jun 9 11:50:11 2015 From: chrisjrn at gmail.com (Christopher Neugebauer) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 19:50:11 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [pyconau-orgs] Permanent links to Code of Conduct In-Reply-To: References: <552653F5.4000709@nitrotech.org> <55265D2A.6030506@nitrotech.org> Message-ID: On 10 April 2015 at 00:39, Javier Candeira wrote: > Thanks, Chris. > > If Pycon AU adopts the LA code of conduct, that would make me (I speak > personally) want MPUG to adopt it too. And many of the other reasons for it > (MPUG organisers and presenters are also involved with Pycon, so their > acceptance of the CoC is a given in many cases) would stand too. Let's say > that we'd be adopting the Pycon AU CoC by reference, not by value. > > Note that it's my opinion that a small user group has different dynamics > than a big conference, so the language itself did not bother me much. I > think the signaling aspect of having a CoC at all and the commitment of the > organisers to take issues seriusly is much more important than the wording > of the CoC. Having said that, it's always better to adopt a well-maintained > document. > > For the reasons above I'm going to suggest on the MPUG list that we adopt > the LA CoC too, "since it's the one used by Pycon AU". When do you > expect/hope the Pycon AU organisation to make the decision to switch? > Sorry for the delay, PyCon AU has adopted the LA code of conduct for 2015: https://2015.pycon-au.org/register/code_of_conduct --Chris -- --Christopher Neugebauer Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn From javier at candeira.com Tue Jun 9 12:11:37 2015 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 12:11:37 +0200 Subject: [melbourne-pug] [pyconau-orgs] Permanent links to Code of Conduct In-Reply-To: References: <552653F5.4000709@nitrotech.org> <55265D2A.6030506@nitrotech.org> Message-ID: Hi Chris, Thanks for letting us know, and thanks for the good work on Pycon AU. Regards, Javier On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Christopher Neugebauer wrote: > On 10 April 2015 at 00:39, Javier Candeira wrote: >> Thanks, Chris. >> >> If Pycon AU adopts the LA code of conduct, that would make me (I speak >> personally) want MPUG to adopt it too. And many of the other reasons for it >> (MPUG organisers and presenters are also involved with Pycon, so their >> acceptance of the CoC is a given in many cases) would stand too. Let's say >> that we'd be adopting the Pycon AU CoC by reference, not by value. >> >> Note that it's my opinion that a small user group has different dynamics >> than a big conference, so the language itself did not bother me much. I >> think the signaling aspect of having a CoC at all and the commitment of the >> organisers to take issues seriusly is much more important than the wording >> of the CoC. Having said that, it's always better to adopt a well-maintained >> document. >> >> For the reasons above I'm going to suggest on the MPUG list that we adopt >> the LA CoC too, "since it's the one used by Pycon AU". When do you >> expect/hope the Pycon AU organisation to make the decision to switch? >> > > Sorry for the delay, > > PyCon AU has adopted the LA code of conduct for 2015: > https://2015.pycon-au.org/register/code_of_conduct > > --Chris > > > -- > --Christopher Neugebauer > > Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net -- > WWW: http://chrisjrn.com -- Twitter: @chrisjrn From clinton.roy at gmail.com Thu Jun 11 04:56:11 2015 From: clinton.roy at gmail.com (Clinton Roy) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:56:11 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia 2015 Early Bird Registrations are Open! Message-ID: We are delighted to announce that online registration is now open for PyCon Australia 2015. 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I'll be back in Melbourne by >> mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? >> >> I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits I'm less >> sure of. >> >> Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? >> >> J >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ed at pythoncharmers.com Fri Jun 12 00:35:13 2015 From: ed at pythoncharmers.com (Ed Schofield) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:35:13 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for me. Cheers, Ed > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: > > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and critiquing the talks of others. > > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing by others. > > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? > > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits I'm less sure of. > > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? > > J > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From jni.soma at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 01:20:09 2015 From: jni.soma at gmail.com (Juan Nunez-Iglesias) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:20:09 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> Message-ID: Jul 27 works for me also! (Just attending.) Since I can't make it to PyCon-AU this year, I'm really looking forward to this! Thanks! Juan. On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 8:35 AM Ed Schofield wrote: > Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. > > Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for me. > > Cheers, > Ed > > > > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: > > > > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and critiquing the > talks of others. > > > > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing by > others. > > > > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in Melbourne > by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? > > > > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits I'm > less sure of. > > > > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? > > > > J > > _______________________________________________ > > melbourne-pug mailing list > > melbourne-pug at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nathan.faggian at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 00:57:44 2015 From: nathan.faggian at gmail.com (nathan.faggian at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 22:57:44 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> Message-ID: I am keen to attend. Sent by Outlook for Android On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM -0700, "Ed Schofield" wrote: Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for me. Cheers, Ed > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: > > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and critiquing the talks of others. > > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing by others. > > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? > > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits I'm less sure of. > > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? > > J > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug _______________________________________________ melbourne-pug mailing list melbourne-pug at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olitheolix at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 03:11:30 2015 From: olitheolix at gmail.com (Oliver Nagy) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:11:30 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> Message-ID: <557A31C2.8020002@gmail.com> Hi, I would also like to rehearse my presentation, please. Jul 27 is fine. As for the venue, I would like to propose Teamsquare in the CBD. It is a Co-working space on 520 Bourke and the owner is happy to host our event free of charge. There is plenty of space, a projector, a podium, and proper chairs (as opposed to the beer benches we had in Inspire 9 last year...). I have put in a tentative booking us. Please let me know if I should finalise it. Best, Oli On 12/06/15 08:57, nathan.faggian at gmail.com wrote: > > I am keen to attend. > > Sent by Outlook for Android > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM -0700, "Ed Schofield" > wrote: > > Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. > > Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for me. > > Cheers, > Ed > > > > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: > > > > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and critiquing the talks of others. > > > > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing by others. > > > > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? > > > > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits I'm less sure of. > > > > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? > > > > J > > _______________________________________________ > > melbourne-pug mailing list > > melbourne-pug at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au Fri Jun 12 03:54:23 2015 From: andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au (Andrew Stuart) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 11:54:23 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal Message-ID: I?m also speaking at Pylon AU 2015 and would like to do a rehearsal presentation if anyone is interested in listening and giving feedback. My topic is "Swagger driven REST API development with the Falcon web server." Andrew Stuart Managing Director SuperCoders IT Recruitment Melbourne 68 -72 York St South Melbourne, Victoria 3205 Phone 03 9696 1616 Mobile: 0417 034 241 Web: http://www.SuperCoders.com.au From javier at candeira.com Fri Jun 12 08:51:09 2015 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:51:09 +0200 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: <557A31C2.8020002@gmail.com> References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> <557A31C2.8020002@gmail.com> Message-ID: I count five talks so far. I suggest we make it into a showcase of things that one doesn't know how to present, because if we try to give the full talks, we'll be there forever. I mean, the one I wanted to rehearse is a 90 minute tutorial, I was already planning to move through slides fast, skip jokes, and just ask the attendance what they thought appropiate as audience fill-in coding activities. Otherwise, even if your talk is a 30 minute talk, and the rehearsal is about getting the timing right, we're already at 2.5 hours minimum. J On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Oliver Nagy wrote: > Hi, > > I would also like to rehearse my presentation, please. Jul 27 is fine. > > As for the venue, I would like to propose Teamsquare in the CBD. It is a > Co-working space on 520 Bourke and the owner is happy to host our event > free of charge. > > There is plenty of space, a projector, a podium, and proper chairs (as > opposed > to the beer benches we had in Inspire 9 last year...). > > I have put in a tentative booking us. Please let me know if I should > finalise > it. > > Best, > Oli > > > > > > On 12/06/15 08:57, nathan.faggian at gmail.com wrote: > >> >> I am keen to attend. >> >> Sent by Outlook for Android >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM -0700, "Ed Schofield" < >> ed at pythoncharmers.com >> > wrote: >> >> Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. >> >> Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for >> me. >> >> Cheers, >> Ed >> >> >> > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: >> > >> > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and critiquing >> the talks of others. >> > >> > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing by >> others. >> > >> > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in >> Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? >> > >> > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits >> I'm less sure of. >> > >> > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. 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URL: From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 09:10:37 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:10:37 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> <557A31C2.8020002@gmail.com> Message-ID: Maybe we should have a one-day miniconf here in Melbourne! ... On 12 June 2015 at 16:51, Javier Candeira wrote: > I count five talks so far. I suggest we make it into a showcase of things > that one doesn't know how to present, because if we try to give the full > talks, we'll be there forever. > > I mean, the one I wanted to rehearse is a 90 minute tutorial, I was > already planning to move through slides fast, skip jokes, and just ask the > attendance what they thought appropiate as audience fill-in coding > activities. > > Otherwise, even if your talk is a 30 minute talk, and the rehearsal is > about getting the timing right, we're already at 2.5 hours minimum. > > J > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Oliver Nagy wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would also like to rehearse my presentation, please. Jul 27 is fine. >> >> As for the venue, I would like to propose Teamsquare in the CBD. It is a >> Co-working space on 520 Bourke and the owner is happy to host our event >> free of charge. >> >> There is plenty of space, a projector, a podium, and proper chairs (as >> opposed >> to the beer benches we had in Inspire 9 last year...). >> >> I have put in a tentative booking us. Please let me know if I should >> finalise >> it. >> >> Best, >> Oli >> >> >> >> >> >> On 12/06/15 08:57, nathan.faggian at gmail.com wrote: >> >>> >>> I am keen to attend. >>> >>> Sent by Outlook for Android >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM -0700, "Ed Schofield" < >>> ed at pythoncharmers.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. >>> >>> Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for >>> me. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: >>> > >>> > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and >>> critiquing the talks of others. >>> > >>> > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing >>> by others. >>> > >>> > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in >>> Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? >>> > >>> > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits >>> I'm less sure of. >>> > >>> > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? >>> > >>> > J >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > melbourne-pug mailing list >>> > melbourne-pug at python.org >>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olitheolix at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 09:11:40 2015 From: olitheolix at gmail.com (Oliver Nagy) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:11:40 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> <557A31C2.8020002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <557A862C.6030303@gmail.com> What about two rehearsal evenings then? Or we could use the next MPUG as an "early bird" rehearsal. We could even move the next MPUG to, say, mid July for this purpose. Best, Oli PS: I want to hear all of Javier's jokes during the rehearsal... On 12/06/15 16:51, Javier Candeira wrote: > I count five talks so far. I suggest we make it into a showcase of things that > one doesn't know how to present, because if we try to give the full talks, we'll > be there forever. > > I mean, the one I wanted to rehearse is a 90 minute tutorial, I was already > planning to move through slides fast, skip jokes, and just ask the attendance > what they thought appropiate as audience fill-in coding activities. > > Otherwise, even if your talk is a 30 minute talk, and the rehearsal is about > getting the timing right, we're already at 2.5 hours minimum. > > J > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Oliver Nagy > wrote: > > Hi, > > I would also like to rehearse my presentation, please. Jul 27 is fine. > > As for the venue, I would like to propose Teamsquare in the CBD. It is a > Co-working space on 520 Bourke and the owner is happy to host our event free > of charge. > > There is plenty of space, a projector, a podium, and proper chairs (as opposed > to the beer benches we had in Inspire 9 last year...). > > I have put in a tentative booking us. Please let me know if I should finalise > it. > > Best, > Oli > > > > > > On 12/06/15 08:57, nathan.faggian at gmail.com > wrote: > > > I am keen to attend. > > Sent by Outlook for Android > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM -0700, "Ed Schofield" > > >> wrote: > > Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. > > Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for me. > > Cheers, > Ed > > > > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: > > > > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and > critiquing the talks of others. > > > > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing > by others. > > > > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in > Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? > > > > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits > I'm less sure of. > > > > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? > > > > J > > _______________________________________________ > > melbourne-pug mailing list > > melbourne-pug at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From javier at candeira.com Fri Jun 12 09:12:44 2015 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 09:12:44 +0200 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> <557A31C2.8020002@gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, I'm actually starting to sour on the idea. Maybe doing this would spoil Pycon by giving it seconds... J On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg < tleeuwenburg at gmail.com> wrote: > Maybe we should have a one-day miniconf here in Melbourne! ... > > On 12 June 2015 at 16:51, Javier Candeira wrote: > >> I count five talks so far. I suggest we make it into a showcase of things >> that one doesn't know how to present, because if we try to give the full >> talks, we'll be there forever. >> >> I mean, the one I wanted to rehearse is a 90 minute tutorial, I was >> already planning to move through slides fast, skip jokes, and just ask the >> attendance what they thought appropiate as audience fill-in coding >> activities. >> >> Otherwise, even if your talk is a 30 minute talk, and the rehearsal is >> about getting the timing right, we're already at 2.5 hours minimum. >> >> J >> >> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Oliver Nagy >> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I would also like to rehearse my presentation, please. Jul 27 is fine. >>> >>> As for the venue, I would like to propose Teamsquare in the CBD. It is a >>> Co-working space on 520 Bourke and the owner is happy to host our event >>> free of charge. >>> >>> There is plenty of space, a projector, a podium, and proper chairs (as >>> opposed >>> to the beer benches we had in Inspire 9 last year...). >>> >>> I have put in a tentative booking us. Please let me know if I should >>> finalise >>> it. >>> >>> Best, >>> Oli >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 12/06/15 08:57, nathan.faggian at gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> I am keen to attend. >>>> >>>> Sent by Outlook for Android >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM -0700, "Ed Schofield" < >>>> ed at pythoncharmers.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. >>>> >>>> Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works well for >>>> me. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Ed >>>> >>>> >>>> > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and >>>> critiquing the talks of others. >>>> > >>>> > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some critiquing >>>> by others. >>>> > >>>> > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back in >>>> Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? >>>> > >>>> > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test the bits >>>> I'm less sure of. >>>> > >>>> > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not to like? >>>> > >>>> > J >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > melbourne-pug mailing list >>>> > melbourne-pug at python.org >>>> > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> >> > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olitheolix at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 09:42:00 2015 From: olitheolix at gmail.com (Oliver Nagy) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:42:00 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Pycon AU 2015 talk rehearsal meeting -- Melbourne edition In-Reply-To: References: <8BD075B7-48D1-4E50-B2A8-B59C9EC97A66@pythoncharmers.com> <557A31C2.8020002@gmail.com> Message-ID: <557A8D48.20308@gmail.com> I like the idea of rehearsals because well prepared talks will benefit PyCon overall. Attendance on rehearsal night is (as always) voluntary anyway. Those worried about spoilers are free to skip it. I suggest to proceed. Best, Oli On 12/06/15 17:12, Javier Candeira wrote: > Yeah, I'm actually starting to sour on the idea. Maybe doing this would spoil > Pycon by giving it seconds... > > J > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Tennessee Leeuwenburg > wrote: > > Maybe we should have a one-day miniconf here in Melbourne! ... > > On 12 June 2015 at 16:51, Javier Candeira > wrote: > > I count five talks so far. I suggest we make it into a showcase of > things that one doesn't know how to present, because if we try to give > the full talks, we'll be there forever. > > I mean, the one I wanted to rehearse is a 90 minute tutorial, I was > already planning to move through slides fast, skip jokes, and just ask > the attendance what they thought appropiate as audience fill-in coding > activities. > > Otherwise, even if your talk is a 30 minute talk, and the rehearsal is > about getting the timing right, we're already at 2.5 hours minimum. > > J > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Oliver Nagy > wrote: > > Hi, > > I would also like to rehearse my presentation, please. Jul 27 is fine. > > As for the venue, I would like to propose Teamsquare in the CBD. It > is a Co-working space on 520 Bourke and the owner is happy to host > our event free of charge. > > There is plenty of space, a projector, a podium, and proper chairs > (as opposed > to the beer benches we had in Inspire 9 last year...). > > I have put in a tentative booking us. Please let me know if I should > finalise > it. > > Best, > Oli > > > > > > On 12/06/15 08:57, nathan.faggian at gmail.com > wrote: > > > I am keen to attend. > > Sent by Outlook for Android > > > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:35 PM -0700, "Ed Schofield" > > >> > wrote: > > Good plan, Javier! Thanks for taking the initiative on this. > > Count me in for a talk rehearsal too. Monday 27 July works > well for me. > > Cheers, > Ed > > > > On 12 Jun 2015, at 8:16 am, Javier Candeira wrote: > > > > Last year I loved attending the Pycon talk rehearsal and > critiquing the talks of others. > > > > This year I have talks of my own, and would like some > critiquing by others. > > > > Are we doing a talk rehearsal this year too? I'll be back > in Melbourne by mid-July, so maybe Monday 27? > > > > I have a lot of material, so I would just audience-test > the bits I'm less sure of. > > > > Also, pizza and beer with fellow Pythonistas. What's not > to like? > > > > J > > _______________________________________________ > > melbourne-pug mailing list > > melbourne-pug at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > > -- > -------------------------------------------------- > Tennessee Leeuwenburg > http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ > "Don't believe everything you think" > > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From brian at microcomaustralia.com.au Fri Jun 12 10:40:11 2015 From: brian at microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:40:11 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] presentation software Message-ID: Hello, Just wondering what is good presentation software that is up to date (i.e. one I just looked at hasn't been updated since 2009, so doesn't count). Ideally, in order of most important preference first, it should have all of the following features: * Works with typical dual screen - as is typical on a laptop with a projector at different resolutions (libreoffice has this). * Python syntax highlighting (I think libreoffice doesn't have this). * Text based format that can be checked into git (rst preferred, but anything else ok too). So far all my searches seem to come up with solutions that look abandoned. What do other people use? Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chausler at gmail.com Fri Jun 12 10:51:44 2015 From: chausler at gmail.com (Chris Hausler) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:51:44 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] presentation software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: IPython notebooks could be an option, I've done a few presentations with it and it makes it really easy to share your code and slides afterwards via Git. On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:40 Brian May wrote: > Hello, > > Just wondering what is good presentation software that is up to date (i.e. > one I just looked at hasn't been updated since 2009, so doesn't count). > > Ideally, in order of most important preference first, it should have all > of the following features: > > * Works with typical dual screen - as is typical on a laptop with a > projector at different resolutions (libreoffice has this). > > * Python syntax highlighting (I think libreoffice doesn't have this). > > * Text based format that can be checked into git (rst preferred, but > anything else ok too). > > So far all my searches seem to come up with solutions that look abandoned. > > What do other people use? > > Thanks > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I am aware ipython has some features which may help with this, but I don't have ipython available on the AIX at present. import fabric from fabric.api import run sql = "select Request.date_entry from Request" def run_sql(): run(". /etc/kshrc; python -c 'import unifydb; from api import run_raw_sql; sql=\"" + sql + "\"; cursor = run_raw_sql(sql); output=cursor.fetchall(); print str(output)'") Chandra Amarasingham Analyst Programmer Specialist Diagnostic Services Pty Ltd 17 Enterprise Grove, Mt Helen, 3350 Federation University Technology Park T: (03) 5330 1056 ext 212 This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the addressee. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. Confidentiality and privilege are not waived or lost if you are not the intended recipient of this email, nor may you use, review, disclose, disseminate or copy any information contained in or attached to it. If you receive this email in error, please delete it and any attachments from your system and notify us immediately. It is your responsibility to check this email and any attachments, before opening or using them, for viruses or defects. You assume all liability arising from opening or using this email and any attachment. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From za at python.or.id Fri Jun 12 10:55:19 2015 From: za at python.or.id (Zaki Akhmad) Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 18:55:19 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python Meetup, Monday 1 June at 6pm In-Reply-To: References: <851thvx6bs.fsf@benfinney.id.au> Message-ID: 2015-06-01 17:26 GMT+10:00 Harriet Dashnow : > Same here. Didn't see an email so assumed it wasn't on. I am curious about > the Interactive visualisation! Will definitely be looking out for the > notes/summary afterwards. Hopefully this will help. I wrote a short summary on this meetup at http://za.github.io/2015/06/04/mpug-interactive-visualization/ -- Zaki Akhmad From nathan.faggian at gmail.com Sat Jun 13 12:41:43 2015 From: nathan.faggian at gmail.com (Nathan Faggian) Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 20:41:43 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] sending stdin to remote python interpreter using fabric In-Reply-To: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760ADE3@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> References: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760ADE3@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> Message-ID: Chandra, Have you considered remote procedure calls? Seems like you could achieve what you want with minimal effort: https://docs.python.org/2/library/xmlrpclib.html Regards, Nathan On 12 June 2015 at 16:45, AMARASINGHAM, Chandra < Chandra.Amarasingham at sdspathology.com.au> wrote: > Hi all, > > Hi All, > > > > I was wondering if anyone had any ideas on how I can send a string of > python code to a remote python interpreter using fabric? > > > > I have successfully done this using something like the following, but I > don't quite like using the -c flag and would like to send the script as > stdin if possible. The use case is a local Linux server and a remote AIX > server both running python 2.7. > > > > I am aware ipython has some features which may help with this, but I don't > have ipython available on the AIX at present. > > > > > > > > > > import fabric > from fabric.api import run > > sql = "select Request.date_entry from Request" > > > > def run_sql(): > > run(". /etc/kshrc; python -c 'import unifydb; from api import > run_raw_sql; sql=\"" + sql + "\"; cursor = run_raw_sql(sql); > output=cursor.fetchall(); print str(output)'") > > > *Chandra Amarasingham* > Analyst Programmer > Specialist Diagnostic Services Pty Ltd > 17 Enterprise Grove, Mt Helen, 3350 > Federation University Technology Park > > T: (03) 5330 1056 ext 212 > > This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the > addressee. 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But: $ python - seems to go straight to the interactive interpreter. However $ cat - | python - definitely works straight from stdin, as if it was reading a python file. This all seems like a bit of a hack, but the following fabfile.py seems to work for me: ------- import fabric from fabric.api import run pycode = """ # code to be run on remove server(s) import os print os.listdir('.') """ cmd = """python - << EOF {pycode} EOF""".format(pycode=pycode) def runpycode(): run(cmd) ------- Adjust pycode to whatever you want. Cheers, Rasjid. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From agnello.dsouza at gmail.com Sun Jun 14 09:53:15 2015 From: agnello.dsouza at gmail.com (agnello.dsouza at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 00:53:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [melbourne-pug] Sr DevOps Engineer ( information technology ) Message-ID: <557d32eb.8d7f460a.cfca.5b61@mx.google.com> Hi melbourne Nice to connect with you again . I currently work as a Sr Consultant ( DevOps ) for Capgemini. Please find attached my resume .I have about 10 yrs of work experience and worked for product based as well as service based companies like Netcore solutions , india.com , Vodafone GLobal . I am Looking for a Onsite opportunity.( I could bear the expense incured due to Visa) *Few of my skill sets include : * AWS Linux Python, perl and shell scripting configuration Mgt tools like puppet , Ansible . Automation ELK Apache and Nginx Mysql Jenkins Jira and much more . It would be nice to hear from you Regards Agnello +91 9819031945 ( agnello.dsouza at gmail.com ) https://in.linkedin.com/in/agnellodsouza -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I was wondering if I could give it a practice run at melbourne-pug? My title is ?Testing aint? hard, even for SysAdmins?. It covers a basic overview of saltstack, and what I leaned about doing testing in python while writing a script to interact with saltstack to do my monthly package updates. I?m covering python testing at a pretty basic level. and I don?t get very deep into saltstack either. It?s for a 25 minute slot at pycon-au. Cheers, ? Geoff Crompton, System Administrator T: +61 (0)3 9348 7138 Trinity College | University of Melbourne | Royal Parade, Parkville | VIctoria 3052, Australia www.trinity.unimelb.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It covers a basic overview of saltstack, and what I leaned about doing testing in python while writing a script to interact with saltstack to do my monthly package updates. > > I?m covering python testing at a pretty basic level. and I don?t get very deep into saltstack either. It?s for a 25 minute slot at pycon-au. > > Cheers, > ? > Geoff Crompton, System Administrator > T: +61 (0)3 9348 7138 > Trinity College | University of Melbourne | Royal Parade, Parkville | VIctoria 3052, Australia > www.trinity.unimelb.edu.au > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From clinton.roy at gmail.com Wed Jun 24 05:39:49 2015 From: clinton.roy at gmail.com (Clinton Roy) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:39:49 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia 2015 Programme Released! 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To find out more about PyCon Australia 2015, visit our website at http://pycon-au.org or e-mail us at contact at pycon-au.org. PyCon Australia is presented by Linux Australia (www.linux.org.au) and acknowledges the support of our Platinum Sponsors, Red Hat Asia-Pacific, and Netbox Blue; and our Gold sponsors, The Australian Signals Directorate and Google Australia. For full details of our sponsors, see our website. -- Clinton Roy Head PyCon Australia 2014/15 Organiser -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Chandra.Amarasingham at sdspathology.com.au Fri Jun 26 02:45:51 2015 From: Chandra.Amarasingham at sdspathology.com.au (AMARASINGHAM, Chandra) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:45:51 +0000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] sqlite3 date types Message-ID: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760EA71@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> Hi All, I am doing exploratory work in sqlite3. I can't seem to store dates in a table when importing from a csv. It seems to store it as a text file, even when I specify type affinity as date when creating the table. Any comments? Sorry a bit off topic, but I hope to process the sqlite3 db in python......and sqlite3 and python seem to go together. Regards, Chandra Chandra Amarasingham Analyst Programmer Specialist Diagnostic Services Pty Ltd 17 Enterprise Grove, Mt Helen, 3350 Federation University Technology Park T: (03) 5330 1056 ext 212 This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the addressee. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. Confidentiality and privilege are not waived or lost if you are not the intended recipient of this email, nor may you use, review, disclose, disseminate or copy any information contained in or attached to it. If you receive this email in error, please delete it and any attachments from your system and notify us immediately. It is your responsibility to check this email and any attachments, before opening or using them, for viruses or defects. You assume all liability arising from opening or using this email and any attachment. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au Fri Jun 26 02:52:40 2015 From: andrew.stuart at supercoders.com.au (Andrew Stuart) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:52:40 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] sqlite3 date types In-Reply-To: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760EA71@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> References: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760EA71@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> Message-ID: <83EB2D26-F034-483A-B76A-C7EFB79C3DC7@supercoders.com.au> sqlite 3 does not have native date data type. https://www.sqlite.org/datatype3.html You can use something like sqlalchemy which has help for date handling. as On 26 Jun 2015, at 10:45 am, AMARASINGHAM, Chandra wrote: Hi All, I am doing exploratory work in sqlite3. I can't seem to store dates in a table when importing from a csv. It seems to store it as a text file, even when I specify type affinity as date when creating the table. Any comments? Sorry a bit off topic, but I hope to process the sqlite3 db in python......and sqlite3 and python seem to go together. Regards, Chandra Chandra Amarasingham Analyst Programmer Specialist Diagnostic Services Pty Ltd 17 Enterprise Grove, Mt Helen, 3350 Federation University Technology Park T: (03) 5330 1056 ext 212 This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the addressee. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. Confidentiality and privilege are not waived or lost if you are not the intended recipient of this email, nor may you use, review, disclose, disseminate or copy any information contained in or attached to it. If you receive this email in error, please delete it and any attachments from your system and notify us immediately. It is your responsibility to check this email and any attachments, before opening or using them, for viruses or defects. You assume all liability arising from opening or using this email and any attachment. _______________________________________________ melbourne-pug mailing list melbourne-pug at python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From dave at montagesoftware.com.au Fri Jun 26 02:57:57 2015 From: dave at montagesoftware.com.au (David Micallef) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:57:57 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] sqlite3 date types In-Reply-To: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760EA71@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> References: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760EA71@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> Message-ID: Chandra I can't help, perhaps a sample of the code. I only use SQLite with SQL Alchemy . It can make these issues a little simpler by improving the api. For some samples check out https://github.com/miguelgrinberg/flasky. In particular https://github.com/miguelgrinberg/flasky/blob/master/app/models.py for the Models, and https://github.com/miguelgrinberg/flasky/blob/master/app/main/views.py for the samples on how these Models are inserted. The app uses alembic migrations to create the database tables from the models file so setting up / running takes a few more steps. Regards Dave David +61 3 9036 2788 On 26 June 2015 at 10:45, AMARASINGHAM, Chandra < Chandra.Amarasingham at sdspathology.com.au> wrote: > Hi All, > > > > I am doing exploratory work in sqlite3. I can't seem to store dates in a > table when importing from a csv. It seems to store it as a text file, even > when I specify type affinity as date when creating the table. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Sorry a bit off topic, but I hope to process the sqlite3 db in > python......and sqlite3 and python seem to go together. > > > > Regards, > > Chandra > > > *Chandra Amarasingham* > Analyst Programmer > Specialist Diagnostic Services Pty Ltd > 17 Enterprise Grove, Mt Helen, 3350 > Federation University Technology Park > > T: (03) 5330 1056 ext 212 > > This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the > addressee. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. > Confidentiality and privilege are not waived or lost if you are not the > intended recipient of this email, nor may you use, review, disclose, > disseminate or copy any information contained in or attached to it. If you > receive this email in error, please delete it and any attachments from your > system and notify us immediately. It is your responsibility to check this > email and any attachments, before opening or using them, for viruses or > defects. You assume all liability arising from opening or using this email > and any attachment. > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From au.huangxin at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 02:58:13 2015 From: au.huangxin at gmail.com (Xin Huang) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 10:58:13 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] sqlite3 date types References: <2FE2C1F3EBEAA64488E8763F53D3EFB9D760EA71@DC1NS-MBX02.hc.int> Message-ID: <201506261058101975115@gmail.com> There is no date or datetime type in SQLite3, they are stored as TEXT usually. To use date string, you can use built-in functions here or convert text to date in Python. Hope it helps. Regards, Xin Huang From: AMARASINGHAM, Chandra Date: 2015-06-26 10:45 To: melbourne-pug at python.org Subject: [melbourne-pug] sqlite3 date types Hi All, I am doing exploratory work in sqlite3. I can't seem to store dates in a table when importing from a csv. It seems to store it as a text file, even when I specify type affinity as date when creating the table. Any comments? Sorry a bit off topic, but I hope to process the sqlite3 db in python......and sqlite3 and python seem to go together. Regards, Chandra Chandra Amarasingham Analyst Programmer Specialist Diagnostic Services Pty Ltd 17 Enterprise Grove, Mt Helen, 3350 Federation University Technology Park T: (03) 5330 1056 ext 212 This email (including any attachments) is intended only for the addressee. It may contain confidential or legally privileged information. 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Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on offer. I have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? Best, Oli From ed at pythoncharmers.com Mon Jun 29 05:44:00 2015 From: ed at pythoncharmers.com (Ed Schofield) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:14:00 +0930 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Rehearsal Date- and Venue In-Reply-To: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> References: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Oli, hi all, It seems there would be too many rehearsals for a single meeting later in July. So I'm wondering who would be willing to give their PyCon rehearsal presentation at the regular MPUG meeting on Monday 6th July at Inspire9. We currently have only one talk confirmed for this. We could then still have an additional rehearsal session on Monday 27th July for those who can't make it next Monday. The upside for the brave souls who present next week is more time to incorporate the feedback and rework it before PyCon. The downside is that it's in one week! Regarding venues, TeamSquare would be a great option unless Javier has already booked with 99 Designs. Javier? Best wishes, Ed > On 29 Jun 2015, at 10:20, Oliver Nagy wrote: > > Hi all, > > I just wondered if we have actually decided on a rehearsal date- and venue for > our PyCon presentations yet? > > Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). > > As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on offer. I > have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. > > What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? > > Best, > Oli > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Mon Jun 29 05:45:48 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:45:48 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Rehearsal Date- and Venue In-Reply-To: References: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: I could probably do the 6th of July. On 29 June 2015 at 13:44, Ed Schofield wrote: > Hi Oli, hi all, > > It seems there would be too many rehearsals for a single meeting later in > July. So I'm wondering who would be willing to give their PyCon rehearsal > presentation at the regular MPUG meeting on Monday 6th July at Inspire9. We > currently have only one talk confirmed for this. > > We could then still have an additional rehearsal session on Monday 27th > July for those who can't make it next Monday. > > The upside for the brave souls who present next week is more time to > incorporate the feedback and rework it before PyCon. The downside is that > it's in one week! > > Regarding venues, TeamSquare would be a great option unless Javier has > already booked with 99 Designs. Javier? > > Best wishes, > Ed > > > > > On 29 Jun 2015, at 10:20, Oliver Nagy wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I just wondered if we have actually decided on a rehearsal date- and > venue for > > our PyCon presentations yet? > > > > Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). > > > > As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on > offer. I > > have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. > > > > What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? > > > > Best, > > Oli > > _______________________________________________ > > melbourne-pug mailing list > > melbourne-pug at python.org > > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olitheolix at gmail.com Mon Jun 29 05:53:55 2015 From: olitheolix at gmail.com (Oliver Nagy) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:53:55 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Rehearsal Date- and Venue In-Reply-To: References: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5590C153.1060102@gmail.com> I will not be able to prepare mine by next Monday, sorry. Best, Oli On 29/06/15 13:44, Ed Schofield wrote: > Hi Oli, hi all, > > It seems there would be too many rehearsals for a single meeting later in July. So I'm wondering who would be willing to give their PyCon rehearsal presentation at the regular MPUG meeting on Monday 6th July at Inspire9. We currently have only one talk confirmed for this. > > We could then still have an additional rehearsal session on Monday 27th July for those who can't make it next Monday. > > The upside for the brave souls who present next week is more time to incorporate the feedback and rework it before PyCon. The downside is that it's in one week! > > Regarding venues, TeamSquare would be a great option unless Javier has already booked with 99 Designs. Javier? > > Best wishes, > Ed > > > >> On 29 Jun 2015, at 10:20, Oliver Nagy wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just wondered if we have actually decided on a rehearsal date- and venue for >> our PyCon presentations yet? >> >> Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). >> >> As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on offer. I >> have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. >> >> What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? >> >> Best, >> Oli >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Mon Jun 29 05:41:34 2015 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:41:34 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Rehearsal Date- and Venue In-Reply-To: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> References: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'm happy to present my tutorial but am happy to give others the space. If a time is chosen and I'm free, I'll come. I expect that's the situation for a lot of people -- we just need someone to organise the actual booking. On 29 June 2015 at 10:50, Oliver Nagy wrote: > Hi all, > > I just wondered if we have actually decided on a rehearsal date- and venue > for > our PyCon presentations yet? > > Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). > > As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on offer. I > have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. > > What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? > > Best, > Oli > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From javier at candeira.com Mon Jun 29 08:00:18 2015 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:00:18 +0200 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Rehearsal Date- and Venue In-Reply-To: References: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: We should have at least two rehearsals on that week, there's no way we are going to fit everyoen in one. Maybe two sessions? And answering Ed's question: No, I haven't talked to 99designs. I can if we decide on a second date. J On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Ed Schofield wrote: > Hi Oli, hi all, > > It seems there would be too many rehearsals for a single meeting later in July. So I'm wondering who would be willing to give their PyCon rehearsal presentation at the regular MPUG meeting on Monday 6th July at Inspire9. We currently have only one talk confirmed for this. > > We could then still have an additional rehearsal session on Monday 27th July for those who can't make it next Monday. > > The upside for the brave souls who present next week is more time to incorporate the feedback and rework it before PyCon. The downside is that it's in one week! > > Regarding venues, TeamSquare would be a great option unless Javier has already booked with 99 Designs. Javier? > > Best wishes, > Ed > > > >> On 29 Jun 2015, at 10:20, Oliver Nagy wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just wondered if we have actually decided on a rehearsal date- and venue for >> our PyCon presentations yet? >> >> Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). >> >> As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on offer. I >> have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. >> >> What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? >> >> Best, >> Oli >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From olitheolix at gmail.com Mon Jun 29 09:47:17 2015 From: olitheolix at gmail.com (Oliver Nagy) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 17:47:17 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Rehearsal Date- and Venue In-Reply-To: References: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5590F805.7080504@gmail.com> Two sessions sounds good to me. How about Jul 28? On 29/06/15 16:00, Javier Candeira wrote: > We should have at least two rehearsals on that week, there's no way we > are going to fit everyoen in one. Maybe two sessions? > > And answering Ed's question: No, I haven't talked to 99designs. I can > if we decide on a second date. > > J > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Ed Schofield wrote: >> Hi Oli, hi all, >> >> It seems there would be too many rehearsals for a single meeting later in July. So I'm wondering who would be willing to give their PyCon rehearsal presentation at the regular MPUG meeting on Monday 6th July at Inspire9. We currently have only one talk confirmed for this. >> >> We could then still have an additional rehearsal session on Monday 27th July for those who can't make it next Monday. >> >> The upside for the brave souls who present next week is more time to incorporate the feedback and rework it before PyCon. The downside is that it's in one week! >> >> Regarding venues, TeamSquare would be a great option unless Javier has already booked with 99 Designs. Javier? >> >> Best wishes, >> Ed >> >> >> >>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 10:20, Oliver Nagy wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I just wondered if we have actually decided on a rehearsal date- and venue for >>> our PyCon presentations yet? >>> >>> Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). >>> >>> As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on offer. I >>> have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. >>> >>> What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? >>> >>> Best, >>> Oli >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From javier at candeira.com Mon Jun 29 10:23:33 2015 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:23:33 +0200 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Rehearsal Date- and Venue In-Reply-To: <5590F805.7080504@gmail.com> References: <5590964B.7050001@gmail.com> <5590F805.7080504@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'd try to do both 27 and 28, I mean, attend both, present at either. In fact, a rule should be that if you get to rehearse your presentation with an audience, you have to also provide an audience for others' rehearsals. Should I ask 99designs for one of the nights? Cheers, Javier On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Oliver Nagy wrote: > Two sessions sounds good to me. How about Jul 28? > > > > On 29/06/15 16:00, Javier Candeira wrote: >> >> We should have at least two rehearsals on that week, there's no way we >> are going to fit everyoen in one. Maybe two sessions? >> >> And answering Ed's question: No, I haven't talked to 99designs. I can >> if we decide on a second date. >> >> J >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:44 AM, Ed Schofield >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Oli, hi all, >>> >>> It seems there would be too many rehearsals for a single meeting later in >>> July. So I'm wondering who would be willing to give their PyCon rehearsal >>> presentation at the regular MPUG meeting on Monday 6th July at Inspire9. We >>> currently have only one talk confirmed for this. >>> >>> We could then still have an additional rehearsal session on Monday 27th >>> July for those who can't make it next Monday. >>> >>> The upside for the brave souls who present next week is more time to >>> incorporate the feedback and rework it before PyCon. The downside is that >>> it's in one week! >>> >>> Regarding venues, TeamSquare would be a great option unless Javier has >>> already booked with 99 Designs. Javier? >>> >>> Best wishes, >>> Ed >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 29 Jun 2015, at 10:20, Oliver Nagy wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> I just wondered if we have actually decided on a rehearsal date- and >>>> venue for >>>> our PyCon presentations yet? >>>> >>>> Mon Jul 27 seems to work for all those interested (6pm onwards?). >>>> >>>> As for the venue, Inspire 9 (Richmond) and Teamsquare (CBD) are on >>>> offer. I >>>> have a slight preference for Teamsquare but am flexible. >>>> >>>> What preference do the other rehearsal candidates have? >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Oli >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From rene at linuxfoundation.org Tue Jun 30 01:25:11 2015 From: rene at linuxfoundation.org (Rene Cunningham) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 09:25:11 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python Role at the Linux Foundation Message-ID: G'day, The Linux Foundation is looking for a python developer with strong infrastructure skills who is passionate about hooking into Cloud Infrastructure at an API level. This is a full time, remote office position. 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