From sam at nipl.net  Fri Mar  1 03:54:25 2013
From: sam at nipl.net (Sam Watkins)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 13:54:25 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] config files? pfft!
In-Reply-To: <CAOOKcO6=zxhfLT4Q63waE+E=YR6gTy-bw1gh1UkPp8MoqS3qRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20130228070930.GA5868@opal.nipl.net>
	<CAOOKcO6=zxhfLT4Q63waE+E=YR6gTy-bw1gh1UkPp8MoqS3qRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130301025425.GB23290@opal.nipl.net>

On Fri, Mar 01, 2013 at 12:39:41AM +1100, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
> Hi Sam,
> 
> Interesting point (and probably good for internal config).  Just a few
> questions (from what I use config files for - user accessible
> configuration):

> 1. How do you deal with syntax errors when the user modifies this file?

It would give a python traceback I suppose.  We could present the exception
more neatly if the users cannot understand a traceback.  Typical "users"
for my work are sysops, they can handle it.

For my purposes it's not worth to make it more complex by handling syntax
errors specially.

One might write a global error handler, to handle any exception, simplify
the message, and show it in a gui dialog or whatever.  That will be helpful
for the user to understand any error, not only configuration errors.

Here's an example with an error handler, it presents the error more clearly.

test.py:
	from conf_load import *
	print a

conf_load.py:
	import sys, traceback, re
	try:
        	from conf import *
	except: 
        	print "config file error:\n%s" % (re.sub(r'^[^\n]*', '', traceback.format_exc(limit=0)))
        	sys.exit(1)

conf.py:
	a=99z

output:
	config file error:

  	  File "/home/sam/conf.py", line 1
    	    a=99z
        	^
	SyntaxError: invalid syntax


This message from python is very clear and helpful, better than you're
likely to get from a config library.

> 2. Can a user inject undesirable code into the system and break my code /
> security / something?

Such users should not be allowed to edit config files!  It can only be
an extra security risk if your process runs with elevated privileges,
or your users have access only to the config file.  In that case, you
should get a trusted user to configure it!  Or generate the config file
safely, somehow.  I do not let random users edit my DNS or web server config,
or /etc/shadow, directly, even though these are "standard" config files.

My suggestion is meant to be a quick and easy way to configure scripts,
not a complex and difficult bloatware configuration framework!
This little discussion about it is already like 1000 times more code than
the technique itself.

> 3. Can you have a system with defaults and only set config that isn't the
> default value?

Yes, just import from the defaults file before you import from the config
file, or hard-code the defaults in the main program somehow, or import
from the defaults file at the start of the config file or config loader
module.  It's a good idea; makes it easier to upgrade packages when the
defaults change.

> Will you be able to change e.g. just one entry in a dictionary property?)

dict['foo'] = 99   # why not?

> These reasons would all drive me towards using a "standard" config file,

I didn't see any reason to prefer a "standard" config file.

Anyhow, if you don't like this way, you can use a config library.

As for me, I don't like needless complexity,
so I will continue with `from config import *`, `import config as c`,
and such.


Sam

From brian at microcomaustralia.com.au  Sun Mar  3 01:02:08 2013
From: brian at microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 11:02:08 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] meeting
Message-ID: <CAA0ZO6C2kwhEL8B0Mndh-nT8hgH-n2vCcKk7ngWNBTiupYse_A@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Is there going to be a meeting tomorrow?

Thanks
-- 
Brian May <brian at microcomaustralia.com.au>
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From bianca.rachel.gibson at gmail.com  Sun Mar  3 07:32:16 2013
From: bianca.rachel.gibson at gmail.com (Bianca Gibson)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:32:16 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAA0ZO6C2kwhEL8B0Mndh-nT8hgH-n2vCcKk7ngWNBTiupYse_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA0ZO6C2kwhEL8B0Mndh-nT8hgH-n2vCcKk7ngWNBTiupYse_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOZrvMNo7n5x_Jv64_-0KPft9HvXnZcSwvFJv_fkCf2255O2iA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brian,
I think so, Javier mentioned it last week.

Cheers,
Bianca
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From javier at candeira.com  Sun Mar  3 10:13:44 2013
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 20:13:44 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talks for MPUG meeting tomorrow Monday, 4 April,
	at 6:00?
Message-ID: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Between the wiki going bust under the weight of all that spam and last
month's meeting changing dates, it appears we don't have talks prepared for
tomorrow's MPUG meeting.

However, the room is reserved at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart Street, Richmond) at
6pm, and there will be pizza (ordered from crust at $10 per head), beer ($5
minimum donation, proceeds go to our generous venue hosts Inspire9) and
pythonic conversation afterwards.

Pycon Australia is almost upon us, and it's probable some of you already
have a presentation in the works. Why not rehearse it in front of a
friendly audience, in anticipation of pizza and beers?

Please write yourselves in at http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG/.

See you there,

Javier
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From javier at candeira.com  Sun Mar  3 11:00:51 2013
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:00:51 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talks for MPUG meeting tomorrow Monday, 4 April,
	at 6:00?
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKADsbeLd1N6Li_tciX+s9BqPnEnR-nH-v4Ds8_7MtYRt5WBqw@mail.gmail.com>

Erm.. tomorrow is Monday, 4 March, not April. Please carry on like nobody
said anything stupid...

Between the wiki going bust under the weight of all that spam and last
> month's meeting changing dates, it appears we don't have talks prepared for
> tomorrow's MPUG meeting.
>
> However, the room is reserved at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart Street, Richmond)
> at 6pm, and there will be pizza (ordered from crust at $10 per head), beer
> ($5 minimum donation, proceeds go to our generous venue hosts Inspire9) and
> pythonic conversation afterwards.
>
> Pycon Australia is almost upon us, and it's probable some of you already
> have a presentation in the works. Why not rehearse it in front of a
> friendly audience, in anticipation of pizza and beers?
>
> Please write yourselves in at http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG/.
>
> See you there,
>
> Javier
>
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From javier at candeira.com  Mon Mar  4 12:24:19 2013
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 22:24:19 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Talks for MPUG meeting tomorrow Monday, 4 April,
	at 6:00?
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKADsbdwJP+_ZGGC4pZq+cDu8_7Laq4w1DAvmUDJWrfMbMYfvw@mail.gmail.com>

That went well!

Thanks to everyone who showed up, to all the presenters who scrambled to
prepare a talk on such short notice, and to inspire9's superb peoples for
putting us up.

Reminder: next session is Monday, 1st April. No Fool's joke, despite the
long weekend and the close encounter with Easter, the Melbourne Python
Users Group will assemble again at Inspire9.

If you have ideas for presentations, or want to volunteer a colleague,
please write to the list.

Cheers,

J


On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Between the wiki going bust under the weight of all that spam and last
> month's meeting changing dates, it appears we don't have talks prepared for
> tomorrow's MPUG meeting.
>
> However, the room is reserved at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart Street, Richmond)
> at 6pm, and there will be pizza (ordered from crust at $10 per head), beer
> ($5 minimum donation, proceeds go to our generous venue hosts Inspire9) and
> pythonic conversation afterwards.
>
> Pycon Australia is almost upon us, and it's probable some of you already
> have a presentation in the works. Why not rehearse it in front of a
> friendly audience, in anticipation of pizza and beers?
>
> Please write yourselves in at http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG/.
>
> See you there,
>
> Javier
>
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From brett at brett.geek.nz  Wed Mar  6 04:32:17 2013
From: brett at brett.geek.nz (Brett Wilkins)
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 16:32:17 +1300
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Junior/Intermediate Dev moving Melbourne,
 needing employment start of May
Message-ID: <52826C1D03674B8D956CC8F284AA0503@brett.geek.nz>

Hi all, 

I'm a developer currently living in Wellington NZ, but soon to be making a move to Melbourne at the end of April.

Outside of a two-year stint at Weta Digital, my Python work experience is relatively little. However since then, I have been very involved in the Python Community in Wellington and New Zealand, running Wellington User Groups being the Treasurer of the NZPUG society and co-organising the NZ PyCon 2011 in Wellington.

For the last year or so I've been working at a Ruby on Rails shop, and I am currently also job hunting in the ruby space. But I would relish the opportunity to find some good Python work to sink my teeth into.


You can find my CV here: http://bwilkins.github.com/cv.html


Regards,
Brett Wilkins

-- 
Brett Wilkins
Sent with Sparrow (http://www.sparrowmailapp.com/?sig)

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From javier at candeira.com  Fri Mar  8 04:14:59 2013
From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 14:14:59 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Recommended VPS supplier in Australia?
Message-ID: <CAKADsbcwh15Ai2eWKEY1Qw6Z8=hhw-qRPC1EpUKKv4aAUAR3uQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, this is a question about recommended vps / iaas cloud suppliers in
Australia.

Apart from AWS, what has your experience with Aussie iaas cloud providers
been regarding performance, general level of service, price/quality?

Thanks,

Javier
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From sam at nipl.net  Fri Mar  8 04:44:25 2013
From: sam at nipl.net (Sam Watkins)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 14:44:25 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Recommended VPS supplier in Australia?
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsbcwh15Ai2eWKEY1Qw6Z8=hhw-qRPC1EpUKKv4aAUAR3uQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsbcwh15Ai2eWKEY1Qw6Z8=hhw-qRPC1EpUKKv4aAUAR3uQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20130308034425.GI27088@opal.nipl.net>

On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 02:14:59PM +1100, Javier Candeira wrote:
> Hi, this is a question about recommended vps / iaas cloud suppliers in
> Australia.
> 
> Apart from AWS, what has your experience with Aussie iaas cloud providers
> been regarding performance, general level of service, price/quality?

I've been happy with this company:  http://www.crucial.com.au/

My aussie VPS costs a bit more than the ones in the US, but it also
seems to have a bit more disk io / cpu.  The service has been good.
It's been pretty reliable.  Current uptime is 304 days.  I use it every
day for email, web server, etc.  They do charge for going over the monthly
transfer limit.

From schweitzer.ubiquitous at gmail.com  Fri Mar  8 05:18:42 2013
From: schweitzer.ubiquitous at gmail.com (martin schweitzer)
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 15:18:42 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Recommended VPS supplier in Australia?
In-Reply-To: <20130308034425.GI27088@opal.nipl.net>
References: <CAKADsbcwh15Ai2eWKEY1Qw6Z8=hhw-qRPC1EpUKKv4aAUAR3uQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<20130308034425.GI27088@opal.nipl.net>
Message-ID: <CAJmzfoEwN50Bj_afmx__iwxptTVRy=F8DjDGZnPqfXHJ6Riiyw@mail.gmail.com>

I've been using web24.com.au and have been happy with them (for the price).

Regards,
Martin


On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Sam Watkins <sam at nipl.net> wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 08, 2013 at 02:14:59PM +1100, Javier Candeira wrote:
> > Hi, this is a question about recommended vps / iaas cloud suppliers in
> > Australia.
> >
> > Apart from AWS, what has your experience with Aussie iaas cloud providers
> > been regarding performance, general level of service, price/quality?
>
> I've been happy with this company:  http://www.crucial.com.au/
>
> My aussie VPS costs a bit more than the ones in the US, but it also
> seems to have a bit more disk io / cpu.  The service has been good.
> It's been pretty reliable.  Current uptime is 304 days.  I use it every
> day for email, web server, etc.  They do charge for going over the monthly
> transfer limit.
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>



-- 
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Mobile: 0412 345 938
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From bianca.rachel.gibson at gmail.com  Sun Mar 10 13:26:28 2013
From: bianca.rachel.gibson at gmail.com (Bianca Gibson)
Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:26:28 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Bar camp melbourne
In-Reply-To: <CAOZrvMOGUnO7JROdjeUBNyUiyubnsLhm6GoN8oOg-ry=haTBSg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZrvMOGUnO7JROdjeUBNyUiyubnsLhm6GoN8oOg-ry=haTBSg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOZrvMPDa3qM4pW7paF9B1+W6j5NRH8uVF30QQTnqSX7mvVUeQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
Bar camp Melbourne is back on, now down to one day on Saturday:
http://barcampmel.org/

Cheers,
Bianca
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From chrisjrn at gmail.com  Wed Mar 13 03:13:44 2013
From: chrisjrn at gmail.com (Chris Neugebauer)
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:13:44 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia Miniconfs announce Calls for
	Proposals
Message-ID: <CABRwemkk-QOht9T+sEK85jZBonkLgdK_smgZy87_zFosehnJjA@mail.gmail.com>

PyCon Australia 2013 will be hosting two one-day miniconfs on Friday 5
July before the main conference proceedings kick off on Saturday 6
July. Miniconfs are events that focus on a specific community that
relies heavily on Python, and allows practitioners in those
communities to explore those topics in a much deeper way than the main
PyCon conference can allow.

This year, we're featuring the first ever DjangoCon AU, presented by
the Django Software Foundation, as well as a miniconf for the
OpenStack cloud platform, presented by Aptira.

Both miniconfs have recently announced their call for proposals, so
read on to find out more about how you can submit your talks!


== OpenStack Day ==

A chance for developers and users of one of the most important new
Python-based open source projects, the OpenStack day is calling for
proposals for short talks, in-depth discussions, and lightning talks
about all aspects of the OpenStack cloud platform.

If you are a developer working on the OpenStack code base, a service
provider, vendor, university or corporation deploying OpenStack or a
software developer or integrator building apps for deployment on
OpenStack then this Miniconf is for you!

The CFP for the OpenStack Miniconf is open now and closes on 15 April,
2013. To submit a presentation, visit the OpenStack Miniconf CFP site
at http://aptira.wufoo.com/forms/pyconau2013-openstack-miniconf-call-for-presenters/


== DjangoCon AU ==

DjangoCon AU is running for the first time as part of PyCon Australia
2013. This miniconf lets developers spend a day diving deeply into the
internals, new features, and development practices of the web
framework they rely upon.

DjangoCon AU is running its call for proposals as part of the PyCon
Australia CFP, with all Django-related proposals being considered as
part of the programme for PyCon Australia or DjangoCon AU. Proposals
close on Friday 5 April, 2013.

To submit a proposal, visit the PyCon Australia CFP at
http://2013.pycon-au.org/programme/call_for_proposals (registration
required).


== About PyCon Australia ==

PyCon Australia is the national conference for the Python Programming
Community. The fourth PyCon Australia will be held on July 5--7, 2013
in Hobart, Tasmania, bringing together professional, student and
enthusiast developers with a love for developing with Python. PyCon
Australia informs the country?s Python developers with presentations,
tutorials and panel sessions by experts and core developers of Python,
as well as the libraries and frameworks that they rely on.

To find out more about PyCon Australia 2013, visit our website at
http://pycon-au.org or e-mail us at contact at pycon-au.org.

PyCon Australia is presented by Linux Australia (www.linux.org.au) and
acknowledges the support of our Platinum sponsor: Australian Computer
Society (Tasmanian Branch) (www.acs.org.au); and our Gold Sponsor,
Google Australia (www.google.com.au). For full details of our
sponsors, see our website.



-- 
--Christopher Neugebauer

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AIM: chrisjrn157 -- MSN: chris at neugebauer.id.au -- WWW:
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From christian at larsen.net.au  Wed Mar 27 04:26:19 2013
From: christian at larsen.net.au (Christian Larsen)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:26:19 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Announcing DevOps Down Under 2013 Call For
	Participation
Message-ID: <CANpa4mvJX1-t4o=xu5MeZVQUcq1YT=iUhkzyTJA6rK10vQ_9ig@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

DevOps Down Under 2013 is being held on the 12th and 13th of July in
Ultimo, Sydney.  We're now pleased to announce that the Call For
Participation[0] is open!

If you have an awesome story to tell about:

 - How you or your organisation has broken the wall between Dev and Ops,
 - A tool you've written to reduce friction when testing / deploying /
   monitoring,
 - How DevOps applies to non IT-focused industries,
 - Adapting techniques and methodologies from other disciplines in your
   organisation,
 - Scaling a web infrastructure through awesome tools and team
   collaboration,
 - Building a business with small cross-functional teams,
 - Something DevOps related that's new and innovative,
 - Or know someone you'd like to nominate

...then you should submit a talk!

The Call For Participation closes on Friday the 24th of May.

We're keen to hear from interested speakers and are looking forward to
seeing everyone at the conference in July!


0. http://www.devopsdays.org/events/2013-downunder/propose/


Cheers,
--
Christian Larsen

From hartror at gmail.com  Wed Mar 27 04:32:27 2013
From: hartror at gmail.com (Rory Hart)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:32:27 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] Announcing DevOps Down Under 2013 Call For
	Participation
In-Reply-To: <CANpa4mvJX1-t4o=xu5MeZVQUcq1YT=iUhkzyTJA6rK10vQ_9ig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANpa4mvJX1-t4o=xu5MeZVQUcq1YT=iUhkzyTJA6rK10vQ_9ig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADf+qJc+FrAVub7RiZL_VstNWW4DPpYaFjpnQ5nh5OVb7JR-=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Weekend after Pycon :(

On 27 March 2013 14:26, Christian Larsen <christian at larsen.net.au> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> DevOps Down Under 2013 is being held on the 12th and 13th of July in
> Ultimo, Sydney.  We're now pleased to announce that the Call For
> Participation[0] is open!
>
> If you have an awesome story to tell about:
>
>  - How you or your organisation has broken the wall between Dev and Ops,
>  - A tool you've written to reduce friction when testing / deploying /
>    monitoring,
>  - How DevOps applies to non IT-focused industries,
>  - Adapting techniques and methodologies from other disciplines in your
>    organisation,
>  - Scaling a web infrastructure through awesome tools and team
>    collaboration,
>  - Building a business with small cross-functional teams,
>  - Something DevOps related that's new and innovative,
>  - Or know someone you'd like to nominate
>
> ...then you should submit a talk!
>
> The Call For Participation closes on Friday the 24th of May.
>
> We're keen to hear from interested speakers and are looking forward to
> seeing everyone at the conference in July!
>
>
> 0. http://www.devopsdays.org/events/2013-downunder/propose/
>
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Christian Larsen
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>



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From gcross at fastmail.fm  Wed Mar 27 12:23:20 2013
From: gcross at fastmail.fm (Graeme Cross)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 22:23:20 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] In search of a convenor and talks for the next MPUG
 meeting (Monday, 1 April, at 6pm)
In-Reply-To: <CAKADsbdwJP+_ZGGC4pZq+cDu8_7Laq4w1DAvmUDJWrfMbMYfvw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKADsbdwJP+_ZGGC4pZq+cDu8_7Laq4w1DAvmUDJWrfMbMYfvw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1364383400.8474.140661209788585.344ABA1E@webmail.messagingengine.com>

Hi everyone.



The next MPUG meeting is scheduled for this coming Monday, April 1,
6pm, at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart St, Richmond).



At this point, we don't have anyone lined up to convene the evening
(the usual suspects including myself are all away or busy that night)
or any presentations.



If you would like to convene the meeting and/or do a talk, can you let
the list know and also put your talk information on the MPUG wiki page
at:



[1]http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG



Convening the meeting is pretty easy:



1. Make sure that there are enough chairs for everyone and the
projector is set up (someone from Inspire 9 is usually around to help
with this)

2. Ensure that everyone who wants to do a talk gets the chance

3. Organise pizza for those interested -- if this is too much, perhaps
just head down the road for some pizza or kebabs after the meeting
instead?



Remember that the call for papers for PyCon AU closes next week, so the
MPUG meeting is a good chance to test out ideas for PyCon AU talks
before getting your submissions in:



[2]http://2013.pycon-au.org/programme/call_for_proposals



Thanks

Graeme





On Mon, Mar 4, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Javier Candeira wrote:

That went well!

Thanks to everyone who showed up, to all the presenters who scrambled
to prepare a talk on such short notice, and to inspire9's superb
peoples for putting us up.

Reminder: next session is Monday, 1st April. No Fool's joke, despite
the long weekend and the close encounter with Easter, the Melbourne
Python Users Group will assemble again at Inspire9.

If you have ideas for presentations, or want to volunteer a colleague,
please write to the list.

Cheers,

J



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Javier Candeira
<[3]javier at candeira.com> wrote:

Hi all,

Between the wiki going bust under the weight of all that spam and last
month's meeting changing dates, it appears we don't have talks prepared
for tomorrow's MPUG meeting.

However, the room is reserved at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart Street,
Richmond) at 6pm, and there will be pizza (ordered from crust at $10
per head), beer ($5 minimum donation, proceeds go to our generous venue
hosts Inspire9) and pythonic conversation afterwards.

Pycon Australia is almost upon us, and it's probable some of you
already have a presentation in the works. Why not rehearse it in front
of a friendly audience, in anticipation of pizza and beers?

Please write yourselves in
at [4]http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG/.

See you there,

Javier


_______________________________________________

melbourne-pug mailing list

[5]melbourne-pug at python.org

[6]http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

References

1. http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG
2. http://2013.pycon-au.org/programme/call_for_proposals
3. mailto:javier at candeira.com
4. http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG/
5. mailto:melbourne-pug at python.org
6. http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
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From chrisjrn at gmail.com  Thu Mar 28 00:08:49 2013
From: chrisjrn at gmail.com (Chris Neugebauer)
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:08:49 -0700
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia 2013 Early Bird registration and
 Accommodation deals now available!
Message-ID: <CABRwem=s_1D4kAOZv4gzmD2jX3VFyTLRHAo9wv2JjCATrKyK4Q@mail.gmail.com>

tl;dr: PyCon Australia early bird registrations are now open! Find out
more at http://2013.pycon-au.org/register/prices, including details of
our accommodation programme.

**

PyCon Australia is excited to announce that early bird conference
registrations are now available for our 2013 conference, to be held on
Saturday 6 and Sunday 6 July in Hobart, Tasmania. Early bird
registration will be extended to the first 80 confirmed conference
registrations, or until Friday 3 May, whichever comes first.

PyCon Australia is the national conference for students, enthusiasts
and professionals working with the Python programming language; it
represents a unique opportunity for Python developers to meet fellow
developers, and gain knowledge from experts and core Python developers
from around Australia and the world. Securing your registration during
the early bird period ensures your place at all of the events that
PyCon Australia has to offer.

Early bird registration comes with a substantial discount for tickets
at our "Enthusiast" and "Professional" rates. Early bird tickets at
both the "Enthusiast" and "Professional" level are guaranteed a seat
at our conference dinner. All tickets include access to the CodeWars
event on Friday 5 July, and the post-conference sprints on Monday 8
and Tuesday 9 July.

Early bird registration starts at $44 for full-time students; $168 for
enthusiasts and $420 for professionals.

This year's conference also features two single-day miniconfs, being
held on Friday 5 July: DjangoCon AU, the first national gathering of
Australian Django developers; and the Python on OpenStack Day. Entry
to these miniconfs is free for professional delegates, and $44 for
students and enthusiasts.

PyCon Australia has been working closely with our venue to provide a
great conference experience; we're very pleased to be able to offer
accommodation to delegates for the duration of the conference. We've
secured an allocation of rooms within the Wrest Point complex. Rooms
available to delegates start at $135 per night; rooms with wired
internet access start at $157 per night.

Information on conference registration, including details on how to
book delegate accommodation through our preferred provider can be
found at the PyCon Australia website (http://2013.pycon-au.org).

Our conference Call for Proposals is still open, and will close on
Friday 5 April.

We can't wait to see you in Hobart in July!

=== About PyCon Australia ===

PyCon Australia is the national conference for the Python Programming
Community. The fourth PyCon Australia will be held on July 5--7, 2013
in Hobart, Tasmania, bringing together professional, student and
enthusiast developers with a love for developing with Python. PyCon
Australia informs the country?s Python developers with presentations,
tutorials and panel sessions by experts and core developers of Python,
as well as the libraries and frameworks that they rely on.

To find out more about PyCon Australia 2013, visit our website at
http://pycon-au.org or e-mail us at contact at pycon-au.org.

PyCon Australia is presented by Linux Australia (www.linux.org.au) and
acknowledges the support of our Platinum sponsor: Australian Computer
Society (Tasmanian Branch) (www.acs.org.au); and our Gold Sponsor,
Google Australia (www.google.com.au). For full details of our
sponsors, see our website.

-- 
--
--Christopher Neugebauer
Conference Coordinator and Sponsor Liaison

PyCon Australia: Hobart 2013 -- http://pycon-au.org -- @pyconau
5?7 July 2013; CFP now open: closes 5 April -- http://pycon-au.org/cfp

Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net --
WWW: http://chris.neugebauer.id.au -- Twitter/Identi.ca: @chrisjrn

From samuel.lai at gmail.com  Thu Mar 28 14:48:56 2013
From: samuel.lai at gmail.com (Sam Lai)
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 00:48:56 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia 2013 Early Bird registration
 and Accommodation deals now available!
In-Reply-To: <CABRwem=s_1D4kAOZv4gzmD2jX3VFyTLRHAo9wv2JjCATrKyK4Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABRwem=s_1D4kAOZv4gzmD2jX3VFyTLRHAo9wv2JjCATrKyK4Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABxbXqVZ=JaTxLxJEq55Hr=exR96jj_iA1cDiFttWLrD5dwVug@mail.gmail.com>

Any chance the registration process will be available over SSL? I'd
like to snag one of the early bird tickets but I'm a bit wary of the
lack of SSL.

Currently https://2013.pycon-au.org redirects to the LCA site.

On 28 March 2013 10:08, Chris Neugebauer <chrisjrn at gmail.com> wrote:
> tl;dr: PyCon Australia early bird registrations are now open! Find out
> more at http://2013.pycon-au.org/register/prices, including details of
> our accommodation programme.
>
> **
>
> PyCon Australia is excited to announce that early bird conference
> registrations are now available for our 2013 conference, to be held on
> Saturday 6 and Sunday 6 July in Hobart, Tasmania. Early bird
> registration will be extended to the first 80 confirmed conference
> registrations, or until Friday 3 May, whichever comes first.
>
> PyCon Australia is the national conference for students, enthusiasts
> and professionals working with the Python programming language; it
> represents a unique opportunity for Python developers to meet fellow
> developers, and gain knowledge from experts and core Python developers
> from around Australia and the world. Securing your registration during
> the early bird period ensures your place at all of the events that
> PyCon Australia has to offer.
>
> Early bird registration comes with a substantial discount for tickets
> at our "Enthusiast" and "Professional" rates. Early bird tickets at
> both the "Enthusiast" and "Professional" level are guaranteed a seat
> at our conference dinner. All tickets include access to the CodeWars
> event on Friday 5 July, and the post-conference sprints on Monday 8
> and Tuesday 9 July.
>
> Early bird registration starts at $44 for full-time students; $168 for
> enthusiasts and $420 for professionals.
>
> This year's conference also features two single-day miniconfs, being
> held on Friday 5 July: DjangoCon AU, the first national gathering of
> Australian Django developers; and the Python on OpenStack Day. Entry
> to these miniconfs is free for professional delegates, and $44 for
> students and enthusiasts.
>
> PyCon Australia has been working closely with our venue to provide a
> great conference experience; we're very pleased to be able to offer
> accommodation to delegates for the duration of the conference. We've
> secured an allocation of rooms within the Wrest Point complex. Rooms
> available to delegates start at $135 per night; rooms with wired
> internet access start at $157 per night.
>
> Information on conference registration, including details on how to
> book delegate accommodation through our preferred provider can be
> found at the PyCon Australia website (http://2013.pycon-au.org).
>
> Our conference Call for Proposals is still open, and will close on
> Friday 5 April.
>
> We can't wait to see you in Hobart in July!
>
> === About PyCon Australia ===
>
> PyCon Australia is the national conference for the Python Programming
> Community. The fourth PyCon Australia will be held on July 5--7, 2013
> in Hobart, Tasmania, bringing together professional, student and
> enthusiast developers with a love for developing with Python. PyCon
> Australia informs the country?s Python developers with presentations,
> tutorials and panel sessions by experts and core developers of Python,
> as well as the libraries and frameworks that they rely on.
>
> To find out more about PyCon Australia 2013, visit our website at
> http://pycon-au.org or e-mail us at contact at pycon-au.org.
>
> PyCon Australia is presented by Linux Australia (www.linux.org.au) and
> acknowledges the support of our Platinum sponsor: Australian Computer
> Society (Tasmanian Branch) (www.acs.org.au); and our Gold Sponsor,
> Google Australia (www.google.com.au). For full details of our
> sponsors, see our website.
>
> --
> --
> --Christopher Neugebauer
> Conference Coordinator and Sponsor Liaison
>
> PyCon Australia: Hobart 2013 -- http://pycon-au.org -- @pyconau
> 5?7 July 2013; CFP now open: closes 5 April -- http://pycon-au.org/cfp
>
> Jabber: chrisjrn at gmail.com -- IRC: chrisjrn on irc.freenode.net --
> WWW: http://chris.neugebauer.id.au -- Twitter/Identi.ca: @chrisjrn
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

From walker.ab at gmail.com  Sat Mar 30 08:49:46 2013
From: walker.ab at gmail.com (Andrew Walker)
Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:49:46 +1100
Subject: [melbourne-pug] In search of a convenor and talks for the next
	MPUG meeting (Monday, 1 April, at 6pm)
In-Reply-To: <1364383400.8474.140661209788585.344ABA1E@webmail.messagingengine.com>
References: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKADsbdwJP+_ZGGC4pZq+cDu8_7Laq4w1DAvmUDJWrfMbMYfvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1364383400.8474.140661209788585.344ABA1E@webmail.messagingengine.com>
Message-ID: <69368B90-95EB-49C2-A97F-2471B05BED37@optusnet.com.au>

Hi MPUG,

Given that there are still no talks as of 6:45pm on the Saturday before MPUG, and Monday is a public holiday, can I suggest that we consider cancelling for this month? If someone has a talk, I'm happy to convene the meeting, but I'm really not in a position to present anything at the moment.

Andrew



On 27/03/2013, at 10:23 PM, Graeme Cross wrote:

> Hi everyone.
>  
> The next MPUG meeting is scheduled for this coming Monday, April 1, 6pm, at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart St, Richmond).
>  
> At this point, we don't have anyone lined up to convene the evening (the usual suspects including myself are all away or busy that night) or any presentations.
>  
> If you would like to convene the meeting and/or do a talk, can you let the list know and also put your talk information on the MPUG wiki page at:
>  
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG
>  
> Convening the meeting is pretty easy:
>  
> 1. Make sure that there are enough chairs for everyone and the projector is set up (someone from Inspire 9 is usually around to help with this)
> 2. Ensure that everyone who wants to do a talk gets the chance
> 3. Organise pizza for those interested -- if this is too much, perhaps just head down the road for some pizza or kebabs after the meeting instead?
>  
> Remember that the call for papers for PyCon AU closes next week, so the MPUG meeting is a good chance to test out ideas for PyCon AU talks before getting your submissions in:
>  
> http://2013.pycon-au.org/programme/call_for_proposals
>  
> Thanks
> Graeme
>  
>  
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Javier Candeira wrote:
>> That went well!
>>  
>> Thanks to everyone who showed up, to all the presenters who scrambled to prepare a talk on such short notice, and to inspire9's superb peoples for putting us up.
>>  
>> Reminder: next session is Monday, 1st April. No Fool's joke, despite the long weekend and the close encounter with Easter, the Melbourne Python Users Group will assemble again at Inspire9.
>>  
>> If you have ideas for presentations, or want to volunteer a colleague, please write to the list. 
>>  
>> Cheers,
>>  
>> J
>>  
>>  
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>  
>> Between the wiki going bust under the weight of all that spam and last month's meeting changing dates, it appears we don't have talks prepared for tomorrow's MPUG meeting. 
>>  
>> However, the room is reserved at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart Street, Richmond) at 6pm, and there will be pizza (ordered from crust at $10 per head), beer ($5 minimum donation, proceeds go to our generous venue hosts Inspire9) and pythonic conversation afterwards.
>>  
>> Pycon Australia is almost upon us, and it's probable some of you already have a presentation in the works. Why not rehearse it in front of a friendly audience, in anticipation of pizza and beers?
>>  
>> Please write yourselves in at http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG/.
>>  
>> See you there,
>>  
>> Javier
>>  
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

Dr Andrew Walker PhD BEng. (Hons) BApp. Sci. QS 
e-mail: ab.walker at optusnet.com.au
mob: 0409 994 810


From ed at pythoncharmers.com  Sun Mar 31 08:12:33 2013
From: ed at pythoncharmers.com (Ed Schofield)
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 08:12:33 +0200
Subject: [melbourne-pug] MPUG meeting cancelled: Monday, 1 April
In-Reply-To: <69368B90-95EB-49C2-A97F-2471B05BED37@optusnet.com.au>
References: <CAKADsberB8XH5Wv144m9OhWwVGWCBEG1z=LruHSB-XYSJ_RfWA@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAKADsbdwJP+_ZGGC4pZq+cDu8_7Laq4w1DAvmUDJWrfMbMYfvw@mail.gmail.com>
	<1364383400.8474.140661209788585.344ABA1E@webmail.messagingengine.com>
	<69368B90-95EB-49C2-A97F-2471B05BED37@optusnet.com.au>
Message-ID: <A744A003-C81A-4D1B-8203-7BA965047FAC@pythoncharmers.com>

Hi everyone,

Yes, we'll cancel this month's MPUG meeting.

If you are keen to meet up with other Python people tomorrow anyway, I'd suggest an informal pub meet at the Post Office Hotel on Swan St (where we went after January's meeting).

See you next month on 6 May. Javier and I will both be there to host that one.

Meanwhile, the PyCon AU call for papers closes this Friday (5 April). If you'd like to give a talk, now's your chance!

Best wishes,
    Ed



On 30/03/2013, at 8:49 AM, Andrew Walker <walker.ab at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi MPUG,
> 
> Given that there are still no talks as of 6:45pm on the Saturday before MPUG, and Monday is a public holiday, can I suggest that we consider cancelling for this month? If someone has a talk, I'm happy to convene the meeting, but I'm really not in a position to present anything at the moment.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> On 27/03/2013, at 10:23 PM, Graeme Cross wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> 
>> The next MPUG meeting is scheduled for this coming Monday, April 1, 6pm, at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart St, Richmond).
>> 
>> At this point, we don't have anyone lined up to convene the evening (the usual suspects including myself are all away or busy that night) or any presentations.
>> 
>> If you would like to convene the meeting and/or do a talk, can you let the list know and also put your talk information on the MPUG wiki page at:
>> 
>> http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG
>> 
>> Convening the meeting is pretty easy:
>> 
>> 1. Make sure that there are enough chairs for everyone and the projector is set up (someone from Inspire 9 is usually around to help with this)
>> 2. Ensure that everyone who wants to do a talk gets the chance
>> 3. Organise pizza for those interested -- if this is too much, perhaps just head down the road for some pizza or kebabs after the meeting instead?
>> 
>> Remember that the call for papers for PyCon AU closes next week, so the MPUG meeting is a good chance to test out ideas for PyCon AU talks before getting your submissions in:
>> 
>> http://2013.pycon-au.org/programme/call_for_proposals
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Graeme
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Javier Candeira wrote:
>>> That went well!
>>> 
>>> Thanks to everyone who showed up, to all the presenters who scrambled to prepare a talk on such short notice, and to inspire9's superb peoples for putting us up.
>>> 
>>> Reminder: next session is Monday, 1st April. No Fool's joke, despite the long weekend and the close encounter with Easter, the Melbourne Python Users Group will assemble again at Inspire9.
>>> 
>>> If you have ideas for presentations, or want to volunteer a colleague, please write to the list. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> J
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Javier Candeira <javier at candeira.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Between the wiki going bust under the weight of all that spam and last month's meeting changing dates, it appears we don't have talks prepared for tomorrow's MPUG meeting. 
>>> 
>>> However, the room is reserved at Inspire 9 (43 Stewart Street, Richmond) at 6pm, and there will be pizza (ordered from crust at $10 per head), beer ($5 minimum donation, proceeds go to our generous venue hosts Inspire9) and pythonic conversation afterwards.
>>> 
>>> Pycon Australia is almost upon us, and it's probable some of you already have a presentation in the works. Why not rehearse it in front of a friendly audience, in anticipation of pizza and beers?
>>> 
>>> Please write yourselves in at http://wiki.python.org/moin/MelbournePUG/.
>>> 
>>> See you there,
>>> 
>>> Javier
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
>> _______________________________________________
>> melbourne-pug mailing list
>> melbourne-pug at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug
> 
> Dr Andrew Walker PhD BEng. (Hons) BApp. Sci. QS 
> e-mail: ab.walker at optusnet.com.au
> mob: 0409 994 810
> 
> _______________________________________________
> melbourne-pug mailing list
> melbourne-pug at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug

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