From andy.larrymite at gmail.com Thu Jun 2 02:30:38 2011 From: andy.larrymite at gmail.com (Andrew Jones) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 10:30:38 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] After a python developer in QA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, a new seek ad is now up. Please apply... http://www.seek.com.au/Job/senior-quality-assurance-qa-tester-contract-melbourne/in/melbourne/19875862 On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Andrew Jones wrote: > Hi we're not having much luck finding testers with > selenium/linux/python skill set. > > We want to: > * mature our selenium test suite. > * Get BDD up and running with lettuce. > * Expanded our system test suite. > * Plus so a whole lot of other agile testing practices. > > However our lack of QA capacity is a problem. So if your a developer > who would be interested in learning new skills and working in the > agile testing space, please apply. > > http://www.seek.com.au/Job/senior-quality-assurance-qa-tester-contract-melbourne/in/melbourne/19770603 > (ignore the close date the position is still open) > > Thanks > Andy > From contact at devopsdownunder.org Thu Jun 2 13:06:58 2011 From: contact at devopsdownunder.org (DevOps Down Under 2011) Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2011 21:06:58 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Announcing DevOps Down Under 2011 programme and ticket availability Message-ID: Hey everyone, We're pleased to announce tickets are now on sale for DevOps Down Under 2011! You can sign up at http://devopsdownunder2011.eventbrite.com/ The conference will be on July 22/23 at Saxons Training Facilities on Collins Street in Melbourne.?Our tentative programme for the conference and further details are available at http://devopsdownunder.org/ Our keynote this year will be delivered by none other than Patrick Debois who's making the trip to Australia to be with us for the event. Other speakers confirmed so far include?Jason Yip + David Joyce of ThoughtWorks, Garrett Honeycutt of Puppet Labs, Wade Millican of Ninefold, Robert Postill of C3 business solutions and Leni Mayo of learnable.com. We also have a number of sponsors on-board, without whom this event wouldn't be possible. Thanks ThoughtWorks, REA, Robot Parade and Ninefold for your support! If you're interested in speaking at, or sponsoring the event, we still have some free slots for our open space sessions and a few sponsorship packages remaining - please get in touch. We look forward to seeing you all in July! Chris Bushell, Lindsay Holmwood, Natalie Drucker DevOps Down Under 2011 organizing committee From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com Sun Jun 5 09:00:06 2011 From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 17:00:06 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Next Melbourne PUG meeting 6:00pm Monday 6th of June @ RMIT Message-ID: Hi all, Sorry for the late posting but my brain meats have been suffering from the Hungarian Death Flu. Tomorrow's meet will be at RMIT as usual, with Javier Candeira talking about Python in the GIMP (a free image / photo editing program that's quite awesome). Full meeting info at http://j.mp/mpug as usual. I was down to talk about overload, and if I come along I'll still talk about it. I was also going to plug PyCon AU's program, but I guess you'll just have to check it out yourself at http://pycon-au.org/2011/conference/. We've also just confirmed our third and final keynote: Audrey Roy! (http://twitter.com/audreyr) Richard From brian at microcomaustralia.com.au Sun Jun 5 10:39:18 2011 From: brian at microcomaustralia.com.au (Brian May) Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2011 18:39:18 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] getting new feature into python Message-ID: Hello, Just wondered if anybody here had experience getting new features into python? http://bugs.python.org/issue6560 I was told "In short, I think that you just need to find a core developer interested". Thanks -- Brian May From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com Mon Jun 6 02:42:13 2011 From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 10:42:13 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] getting new feature into python In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5 June 2011 18:39, Brian May wrote: > Just wondered if anybody here had experience getting new features into python? > > http://bugs.python.org/issue6560 > > I was told "In short, I think that you just need to find a core > developer interested". Or you could become one! The barrier to entry is not that high. If you're willing to wait, and are able to attend, then there'll be an opportunity to learn about such things and put it into practise at PyCon Au in Sydney in August. Nick Coghlan will be talking about how core development works, and we'll be running 3 days of sprints immediately after the conference during which you would have plenty of time to commit the patch. If that's not an option for you then I recommend reading http://docs.python.org/devguide/ and signing up to http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/core-mentorship I'm a core developer, but only during sprints. Well, unless there's an issue with something I committed :-) Richard From alecclews at gmail.com Tue Jun 14 12:50:06 2011 From: alecclews at gmail.com (Alec Clews) Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:50:06 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] ANNOUNCE: Barcamp Geelong 9/July/2011 Message-ID: <4DF73CDE.50107@gmail.com> BarCampGeelong SATURDAY 9th JULY, GEELONG BarCampGeelong 2011 is happening from 9am to 5pm on Saturday 9th July, 2011 at Deakin University's Geelong Waterfront Campus in central Geelong - a short walk from Geelong's main train station. Please save the date in your diary and plan to attend. BarCampGeelong exists to support the grassroots technology community in and around Geelong and Victoria by providing a laid-back, informal environment for knowledge sharing, open discussion and networking. Jeans and t-shirts, lots of gadgets and geek talk will be the order of the day. More details at http://barcampgeelong.org/ WHAT IS A BARCAMP? "They are open, participatory workshop-events, whose content is provided by participants". Come along to learn and teach others. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp for more details WHAT CAN I EXPECT? What is on the program? That will depend on the participants, who can propose and vote on presentations before the conference. The schedule is finalised on the first morning of the conference. Suggested topics include hardware and hardware hacking, networking, programming, development tools and methodologies, business issues,... you name it- if it's technical, it's likely to be at BarCampGeelong! .... The list will totally depend on offers from participants. HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? BarCampGeelong attendance is $10 to help cover costs and there are limited places due to the size of facilities. Registrations are now open at https://register.eventarc.com/event/view/3679/tickets/barcampgeelong-2011 BarCampGeelong is made possible by very generous sponsors - so far we have Deakin University, Linux Australia and Duxtel on board. If you or your company would like to help sponsor BarCampGeelong we can do help get your message and promotional material in the conference programme. AWESOME! WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO NEXT? 1. Book the date in your diary 2. Follow @BarCampGeelong on Twitter or Identi.ca or email info at barcampgeelong.org for more information 3. Think about how you will participate in the day - such as through giving a presentation, a lightning talk or leading a discussion -- Alec Clews Personal Melbourne, Australia Jabber: alecclews at jabber.org PGPKey ID: 0x9BBBFC7C Blog http://alecthegeek.wordpress.com/ From miked at dewhirst.com.au Wed Jun 22 09:25:14 2011 From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:25:14 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific Message-ID: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> Anyone interested? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 From: Russell Keith-Magee Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com To: django-users at googlegroups.com On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team wrote: > Hey guys, > > Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or any > Django conference at all here? There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and PyCon.APAC. However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an event; however, what is missing is a group of community members willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to support the organization process. Yours, Russ Magee %-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. From goran at kogan.com.au Wed Jun 22 11:08:53 2011 From: goran at kogan.com.au (Goran - Kogan) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:08:53 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> Message-ID: I think that would be a great idea! Do you think it would be worth getting interested parties together at PyconAU this year to discuss this or even put the wheels in motion? Cheers Goran Stefkovski On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Mike Dewhirst wrote: > Anyone interested? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 > From: Russell Keith-Magee > Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com > To: django-users at googlegroups.com > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team > wrote: > >> Hey guys, >> >> Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or any >> Django conference at all here? >> > > There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a > few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and > PyCon.APAC. > > However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a > DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. > > There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an > event; however, what is missing is a group of community members > willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to > emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to > support the organization process. > > Yours, > Russ Magee %-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscribe@** > googlegroups.com . > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** > group/django-users?hl=en > . > > > > > ______________________________**_________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From swifteye2 at msn.com Wed Jun 22 11:38:01 2011 From: swifteye2 at msn.com (Andrew Thornton) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:38:01 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> Message-ID: No. Not when there are other equally good web application frameworks on this planet. Honestly Mike. Try to see more of this universe than the Django ecosystem. Ruby on rails can't be THAT bad. If a clown like me can set up a ROR web application framework then I am sure that you could. As for going, no thanks. The vast majority of geeks are well on the way to autistic/aspergers on the spectrum. I would rather spend my free time with normal, balanced people rather than command-line nuts. I have better things to do with 100000 hours than spend it scripting. I actually have a life. I also know that there is this thing called an alphabet. It starts with A...and ends with Z. Most geeks can't read. They have spent their time doing C instead. Take that Andrew Tridgell for instance. Great programmer. Has about the alphabetical literacy level of a cabbage. I might find an improv drama group. But conferences? Please. Don't drive me nuts at the thought. I have no real interest in hanging around techno-neanderthals to whom the French Revolution never happened because it's not a C or python script. Andrew Thornton > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:25:14 +1000 > From: miked at dewhirst.com.au > To: melbourne-pug at python.org > Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > > Anyone interested? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 > From: Russell Keith-Magee > Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com > To: django-users at googlegroups.com > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or any > > Django conference at all here? > > There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a > few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and > PyCon.APAC. > > However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a > DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. > > There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an > event; however, what is missing is a group of community members > willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to > emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to > support the organization process. > > Yours, > Russ Magee %-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From kiran.busi at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 12:51:09 2011 From: kiran.busi at gmail.com (Kiran Busi) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:51:09 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Django conference in Australia Message-ID: Hi, I use the django framework and would interested in a DjangoCon.AU I'm fairly new to the framework. Would be interested in what other people are upto. *Kiran Busi* Kiran dot Busi at GMAIL dot COM AUS: +61 414 265 968 USA: +1-321-252-8741 On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:45 PM, wrote: > Send melbourne-pug mailing list submissions to > melbourne-pug at python.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > melbourne-pug-request at python.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > melbourne-pug-owner at python.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of melbourne-pug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > (Mike Dewhirst) > 2. Re: Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > (Goran - Kogan) > 3. Re: Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > (Andrew Thornton) > 4. Re: Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > (Noon Silk) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:25:14 +1000 > From: Mike Dewhirst > To: Melbourne Python Users Group > Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia > Pacific > Message-ID: <4E0198DA.8020507 at dewhirst.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Anyone interested? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 > From: Russell Keith-Magee > Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com > To: django-users at googlegroups.com > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team > wrote: > > Hey guys, > > > > Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or any > > Django conference at all here? > > There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a > few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and > PyCon.APAC. > > However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a > DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. > > There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an > event; however, what is missing is a group of community members > willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to > emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to > support the organization process. > > Yours, > Russ Magee %-) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:08:53 +1000 > From: Goran - Kogan > To: Melbourne Python Users Group > Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in > Asia Pacific > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I think that would be a great idea! > > Do you think it would be worth getting interested parties together at > PyconAU this year to discuss this or even put the wheels in motion? > > Cheers > > Goran Stefkovski > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hartror at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 13:28:08 2011 From: hartror at gmail.com (Rory Hart) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:28:08 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> Message-ID: This is a joke right? Right? Rory Hart On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Thornton wrote: > No. Not when there are other equally good web application frameworks on > this planet. Honestly Mike. Try to see more of this universe than the Django > ecosystem. Ruby on rails can't be THAT bad. If a clown like me can set up a > ROR web application framework then I am sure that you could. > > As for going, no thanks. The vast majority of geeks are well on the way to > autistic/aspergers on the spectrum. I would rather spend my free time with > normal, balanced people rather than command-line nuts. I have better things > to do with 100000 hours than spend it scripting. I actually have a life. > > I also know that there is this thing called an alphabet. It starts with > A...and ends with Z. Most geeks can't read. They have spent their time doing > C instead. Take that Andrew Tridgell for instance. Great programmer. Has > about the alphabetical literacy level of a cabbage. > > I might find an improv drama group. But conferences? Please. Don't drive me > nuts at the thought. I have no real interest in hanging around > techno-neanderthals to whom the French Revolution never happened because > it's not a C or python script. > > Andrew Thornton > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:25:14 +1000 > > From: miked at dewhirst.com.au > > To: melbourne-pug at python.org > > Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia > Pacific > > > > > Anyone interested? > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific > > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 > > From: Russell Keith-Magee > > Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com > > To: django-users at googlegroups.com > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team > wrote: > > > Hey guys, > > > > > > Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or any > > > Django conference at all here? > > > > There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a > > few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and > > PyCon.APAC. > > > > However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a > > DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. > > > > There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an > > event; however, what is missing is a group of community members > > willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to > > emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to > > support the organization process. > > > > Yours, > > Russ Magee %-) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > > To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > melbourne-pug mailing list > > melbourne-pug at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From darius at obsidian.com.au Wed Jun 22 13:41:13 2011 From: darius at obsidian.com.au (Kevin Littlejohn) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:41:13 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> Message-ID: I figure it was either a joke, or an attempt to get added to "do not employ" lists throughout melbourne... *plonk* KJL On 22 June 2011 21:28, Rory Hart wrote: > This is a joke right? Right? > Rory Hart > > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Thornton wrote: >> >> No. Not when there are other equally good web application frameworks on >> this planet. Honestly Mike. Try to see more of this universe than the Django >> ecosystem. Ruby on rails can't be THAT bad. If a clown like me can set up a >> ROR web application framework then I am sure that you could. >> >> As for going, no thanks. The vast majority of geeks are well on the way to >> autistic/aspergers on the spectrum. I would rather spend my free time with >> normal, balanced people rather than command-line nuts. I have better things >> to do with 100000 hours than spend it scripting. I actually have a life. >> >> I also know that there is this thing called an alphabet. It starts with >> A...and ends with Z. Most geeks can't read. They have spent their time doing >> C instead. Take that Andrew Tridgell for instance. Great programmer. Has >> about the alphabetical literacy level of a cabbage. >> >> I might find an improv drama group. But conferences? Please. Don't drive >> me nuts at the thought. I have no real interest in hanging around >> techno-neanderthals to whom the French Revolution never happened because >> it's not a C or python script. >> >> Andrew Thornton >> >> >> >> >> >> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:25:14 +1000 >> > From: miked at dewhirst.com.au >> > To: melbourne-pug at python.org >> > Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia >> > Pacific >> > >> > Anyone interested? >> > >> > -------- Original Message -------- >> > Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific >> > Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 >> > From: Russell Keith-Magee >> > Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com >> > To: django-users at googlegroups.com >> > >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team >> > wrote: >> > > Hey guys, >> > > >> > > Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or >> > > any >> > > Django conference at all here? >> > >> > There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a >> > few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and >> > PyCon.APAC. >> > >> > However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a >> > DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. >> > >> > There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an >> > event; however, what is missing is a group of community members >> > willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to >> > emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to >> > support the organization process. >> > >> > Yours, >> > Russ Magee %-) >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "Django users" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > django-users+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > melbourne-pug mailing list >> > melbourne-pug at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > -- Kevin Littlejohn Obsidian Consulting Group ph: +613 9355 7844 skype: silarsis From noonslists at gmail.com Wed Jun 22 13:48:53 2011 From: noonslists at gmail.com (Noon Silk) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:48:53 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Kevin Littlejohn wrote: > I figure it was either a joke, or an attempt to get added to "do not > employ" lists throughout melbourne... Ah, let's not be so harsh as that; I think everyone has had a bad day, or made an unnecessary public statement. > *plonk* > > KJL > > -- > Kevin Littlejohn > Obsidian Consulting Group > ph: +613 9355 7844 > skype: silarsis -- Noon Silk | http://dnoondt.wordpress.com/ > Fancy a quantum lunch? http://groups.google.com/group/quantum-lunch?hl=en "Every morning when I wake up, I experience an exquisite joy ? the joy of being this signature." From ryan at uanywhere.com.au Wed Jun 22 13:49:37 2011 From: ryan at uanywhere.com.au (Ryan Verner) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:49:37 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> Message-ID: <4D3125D5-99A0-4907-A674-9D393D2F16BE@uanywhere.com.au> I suspect it was a partially tongue-in-cheek response that was meant to be offlis... ooh, look, shiny! In all seriousness; yes, I'd be interested in a AU Djangocon, but I'd like to see Pycon AU grow first as I suspect there is more harm in segregating into separate conferences than running two of them at this point; the Django crowd seemed well catered for at last years conference. (I'd probably go to both, though, particularly if they were some months apart...) On 22/06/2011, at 21:41 , Kevin Littlejohn wrote: > I figure it was either a joke, or an attempt to get added to "do not > employ" lists throughout melbourne... > > *plonk* > > KJL > > On 22 June 2011 21:28, Rory Hart wrote: >> This is a joke right? Right? >> Rory Hart >> >> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Thornton wrote: >>> >>> No. Not when there are other equally good web application frameworks on >>> this planet. Honestly Mike. Try to see more of this universe than the Django >>> ecosystem. Ruby on rails can't be THAT bad. If a clown like me can set up a >>> ROR web application framework then I am sure that you could. >>> >>> As for going, no thanks. The vast majority of geeks are well on the way to >>> autistic/aspergers on the spectrum. I would rather spend my free time with >>> normal, balanced people rather than command-line nuts. I have better things >>> to do with 100000 hours than spend it scripting. I actually have a life. >>> >>> I also know that there is this thing called an alphabet. It starts with >>> A...and ends with Z. Most geeks can't read. They have spent their time doing >>> C instead. Take that Andrew Tridgell for instance. Great programmer. Has >>> about the alphabetical literacy level of a cabbage. >>> >>> I might find an improv drama group. But conferences? Please. Don't drive >>> me nuts at the thought. I have no real interest in hanging around >>> techno-neanderthals to whom the French Revolution never happened because >>> it's not a C or python script. >>> >>> Andrew Thornton >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:25:14 +1000 >>>> From: miked at dewhirst.com.au >>>> To: melbourne-pug at python.org >>>> Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia >>>> Pacific >>>> >>>> Anyone interested? >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific >>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 >>>> From: Russell Keith-Magee >>>> Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com >>>> To: django-users at googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hey guys, >>>>> >>>>> Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or >>>>> any >>>>> Django conference at all here? >>>> >>>> There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a >>>> few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and >>>> PyCon.APAC. >>>> >>>> However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a >>>> DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. >>>> >>>> There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an >>>> event; however, what is missing is a group of community members >>>> willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to >>>> emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to >>>> support the organization process. >>>> >>>> Yours, >>>> Russ Magee %-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Django users" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> django-users+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >> >> > > > > -- > Kevin Littlejohn > Obsidian Consulting Group > ph: +613 9355 7844 > skype: silarsis > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From ryan at uanywhere.com.au Wed Jun 22 14:13:47 2011 From: ryan at uanywhere.com.au (Ryan Verner) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 22:13:47 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: <4D3125D5-99A0-4907-A674-9D393D2F16BE@uanywhere.com.au> References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> <4D3125D5-99A0-4907-A674-9D393D2F16BE@uanywhere.com.au> Message-ID: <396626B4-C74A-4773-A96B-C07BEFAB1000@uanywhere.com.au> On 22/06/2011, at 21:49 , Ryan Verner wrote: > In all seriousness; yes, I'd be interested in a AU Djangocon, but I'd like to see Pycon AU grow first as I suspect there is more harm in segregating into separate conferences than running two of them at this point; the Django crowd seemed well catered for at last years conference. (I'd probably go to both, though, particularly if they were some months apart...) Let's try that again: I see more harm in segregating rather than having a single conference at the moment. But I'm interested: are people after a more Django-centric conference, preferring Pycon AU to be less Django-centric? Maybe my memory is fuzzy but it seemed a very large % of talks were Django orientated last year, and we're not anywhere even close to having to deal with the capacity issues of the EU/US Python conferences, where expanding out into sub-conferences makes more sense. That said, this may not even need community debate: unlike Pycon US (ran by the PSF, a non-profit entity), Djangocon US is ran by a for-profit company, although they contribute heavily back to the DSF and there is a lot community involvement. R > On 22/06/2011, at 21:41 , Kevin Littlejohn wrote: > >> I figure it was either a joke, or an attempt to get added to "do not >> employ" lists throughout melbourne... >> >> *plonk* >> >> KJL >> >> On 22 June 2011 21:28, Rory Hart wrote: >>> This is a joke right? Right? >>> Rory Hart >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Andrew Thornton wrote: >>>> >>>> No. Not when there are other equally good web application frameworks on >>>> this planet. Honestly Mike. Try to see more of this universe than the Django >>>> ecosystem. Ruby on rails can't be THAT bad. If a clown like me can set up a >>>> ROR web application framework then I am sure that you could. >>>> >>>> As for going, no thanks. The vast majority of geeks are well on the way to >>>> autistic/aspergers on the spectrum. I would rather spend my free time with >>>> normal, balanced people rather than command-line nuts. I have better things >>>> to do with 100000 hours than spend it scripting. I actually have a life. >>>> >>>> I also know that there is this thing called an alphabet. It starts with >>>> A...and ends with Z. Most geeks can't read. They have spent their time doing >>>> C instead. Take that Andrew Tridgell for instance. Great programmer. Has >>>> about the alphabetical literacy level of a cabbage. >>>> >>>> I might find an improv drama group. But conferences? Please. Don't drive >>>> me nuts at the thought. I have no real interest in hanging around >>>> techno-neanderthals to whom the French Revolution never happened because >>>> it's not a C or python script. >>>> >>>> Andrew Thornton >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 17:25:14 +1000 >>>>> From: miked at dewhirst.com.au >>>>> To: melbourne-pug at python.org >>>>> Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia >>>>> Pacific >>>>> >>>>> Anyone interested? >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>> Subject: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific >>>>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 14:08:14 +0800 >>>>> From: Russell Keith-Magee >>>>> Reply-To: django-users at googlegroups.com >>>>> To: django-users at googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Dealshelve Team >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hey guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> Do we have any upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific region or >>>>>> any >>>>>> Django conference at all here? >>>>> >>>>> There is usually a Django presence (i.e., a core developer or two, a >>>>> few talks, and many Django users) at PyCon.AU, PyCon.NZ and >>>>> PyCon.APAC. >>>>> >>>>> However, at present, there are no concrete plans to hold a >>>>> DjangoCon.AU, DjangoCon.NZ or DjangoCon.APAC. >>>>> >>>>> There have been many expressions of interest in attending such an >>>>> event; however, what is missing is a group of community members >>>>> willing to step up and organize the event. If such a group were to >>>>> emerge, the Django Software Foundation would do whatever it can to >>>>> support the organization process. >>>>> >>>>> Yours, >>>>> Russ Magee %-) >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Django users" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to django-users at googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> django-users+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>>>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> melbourne-pug mailing list >>> melbourne-pug at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Kevin Littlejohn >> Obsidian Consulting Group >> ph: +613 9355 7844 >> skype: silarsis >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From ryan at rfk.id.au Thu Jun 23 00:45:15 2011 From: ryan at rfk.id.au (Ryan kelly) Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:45:15 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Fwd: Re: Upcoming Django conference in Asia Pacific In-Reply-To: <396626B4-C74A-4773-A96B-C07BEFAB1000@uanywhere.com.au> References: <4E0198DA.8020507@dewhirst.com.au> <4D3125D5-99A0-4907-A674-9D393D2F16BE@uanywhere.com.au> <396626B4-C74A-4773-A96B-C07BEFAB1000@uanywhere.com.au> Message-ID: <1308782716.1986.11.camel@rambutan> On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 22:13 +1000, Ryan Verner wrote: > On 22/06/2011, at 21:49 , Ryan Verner wrote: > > In all seriousness; yes, I'd be interested in a AU Djangocon, but > I'd like to see Pycon AU grow first as I suspect there is more harm in > segregating into separate conferences than running two of them at this > point; the Django crowd seemed well catered for at last years > conference. (I'd probably go to both, though, particularly if they > were some months apart...) I agree. The Australian python community seems to be really finding its legs at the moment, lets not go all Peoples-Front-of-Judea on it (splitters!) until PyCon Au is more firmly entrenched. That said, if there were to be a DjangoCon Au, a great way to get it off the ground would be as a "miniconf" associated with PyCon AU. I'd certainly go - heck, I've probably got enough material for a talk kicking around here somewhere. > Maybe my memory is fuzzy but it seemed a very large % of talks were > Django orientated last year, There were several complaints about the conference being a little too Django-heavy last year. But, I suspect that's just a reflection of the Python community as a whole and the path by which many people have come to python - as I'm sure Ruby conferences are too Rails-heavy for some people's tastes. > >>>> As for going, no thanks. The vast majority of geeks are well on the way to > >>>> autistic/aspergers on the spectrum. I would rather spend my free time with > >>>> normal, balanced people rather than command-line nuts. And for anyone on this list who might happen to think there's even a shred of truth in this, don't. PyCon Au last year was an excellent mix of interesting, well-rounded, mentally-healthy people. You should all come this year :-) Cheers, Ryan -- Ryan Kelly http://www.rfk.id.au | This message is digitally signed. Please visit ryan at rfk.id.au | http://www.rfk.id.au/ramblings/gpg/ for details -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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(I'd probably go to both, though, particularly if they >> were some months apart...) > I agree. The Australian python community seems to be really finding its > legs at the moment, lets not go all Peoples-Front-of-Judea on it > (splitters!) until PyCon Au is more firmly entrenched. Ryan You are right - the legs are definitely there. You and Richard and the others have done a great job. Django could never split a PyCon because it is python all the way down. Except for the web part of it of course. That's all javascript and css and yucky stuff like that. I see what you mean .... > That said, if there were to be a DjangoCon Au, a great way to get it off > the ground would be as a "miniconf" associated with PyCon AU. I'd > certainly go - heck, I've probably got enough material for a talk > kicking around here somewhere. I think it ought to be a stream within rather than something which blocks other streams. Maybe there isn't enough django adoption yet and it should be a web stream instead? Speaking for myself though, I'd definitely make it a django stream. I thought last year's PyConAU in Sydney was great. I went to everything django/web ahead of everything else but I enjoyed that other stuff too and learned heaps. I'm just sorry I can't go again this year. Mike >> Maybe my memory is fuzzy but it seemed a very large % of talks were >> Django orientated last year, > There were several complaints about the conference being a little too > Django-heavy last year. But, I suspect that's just a reflection of the > Python community as a whole and the path by which many people have come > to python - as I'm sure Ruby conferences are too Rails-heavy for some > people's tastes. > >>>>>> As for going, no thanks. The vast majority of geeks are well on the way to >>>>>> autistic/aspergers on the spectrum. I would rather spend my free time with >>>>>> normal, balanced people rather than command-line nuts. > And for anyone on this list who might happen to think there's even a > shred of truth in this, don't. PyCon Au last year was an excellent mix > of interesting, well-rounded, mentally-healthy people. > > You should all come this year :-) > > > > Cheers, > > Ryan > > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 01:32:41 2011 From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:32:41 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! Message-ID: Hi all, The next Melbourne Python Users Group meeting will be on the 4th of July at RMIT. Full details and talk signup at http://j.mp/mpug I'll be talking about mooch (it won't take long). And the PyCon AU program. We may get some PyCon AU talk previews... Feel free to sign up to talk if you've discovered something cool recently and think it's worth sharing. See you there! Richard From javier at candeira.com Mon Jun 27 01:57:00 2011 From: javier at candeira.com (Javier Candeira) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 09:57:00 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'll be there IFF there's no new baby... J On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Richard Jones wrote: > Hi all, > > The next Melbourne Python Users Group meeting will be on the 4th of > July at RMIT. Full details and talk signup at http://j.mp/mpug > > I'll be talking about mooch (it won't take long). And the PyCon AU > program. We may get some PyCon AU talk previews... > > Feel free to sign up to talk if you've discovered something cool > recently and think it's worth sharing. > > See you there! > > > ? ?Richard > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 07:45:32 2011 From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:45:32 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon AU gender diversity grants for women in Python! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: PyCon AU gender diversity grants for women in Python ==================================================== PyCon AU is pleased to announce that it will be offering two gender diversity delegate grants to women who wish to attend PyCon AU in 2011. These grants will *both* cover full registration costs; in addition, one of the grants will cover up to $AUD500 of travel and accommodation costs for a woman living outside of the Sydney region to attend. These grants aim to reduce the financial barriers to attending PyCon AU 2011, by subsidising the registration and travel costs of people from diverse groups, who contribute in important ways to the Python community. More information can be found at?http://pycon-au.org/2011/grants/ Eligibility ----------- In order to be eligible for one of the grants, you must be: ?* a woman, aged 18 or older ?* professional, hobbyist or student interested in, or currently ? ?working in Python-related fields or projects ?* planning to attend both days of PyCon AU 2011 In order to be eligible for the travel and accommodation grant, you must additionally: ?* live further than 150 km from the conference venue. (If you are unsure, please visit ?http://maps.google.com.au/maps/place?q=66+Goulburn+St,+Sydney,+NSW+2000 ?and use the "Get Directions" link in the upper left-hand corner to ?calculate the driving distance from your place of residence to the venue.) More information can be found at?http://pycon-au.org/2011/grants/ Award Amount ------------ Both selected grant recipients will receive a free Full registration to PyCon AU (including a seat at the conference dinner on Saturday night), worth $198. In addition, the recipient of the travel and accommodation grant will be reimbursed up to $500 in travel and accommodation costs. More information can be found at?http://pycon-au.org/2011/grants/ Timeline -------- Applications for the gender diversity delegates grants are open now, and will close on **8th of July**. We will notify all successful recipients of their award by **15th of July** so that you can have ample time to complete your travel plans. More information can be found at?http://pycon-au.org/2011/grants/ Tim 'mithro' Ansell PyConAU Organiser From r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 11:23:48 2011 From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com (Richard Jones) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:23:48 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 June 2011 09:32, Richard Jones wrote: > The next Melbourne Python Users Group meeting will be on the 4th of > July at RMIT. Full details and talk signup at http://j.mp/mpug > > I'll be talking about mooch (it won't take long). And the PyCon AU > program. We may get some PyCon AU talk previews... Actually, I won't be able to make it at all as I'll be in single-parent mode. This means the talk slate is clean. Anyone can step up at this point! :-) Richard From swifteye2 at msn.com Mon Jun 27 12:52:07 2011 From: swifteye2 at msn.com (Andrew Thornton) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:52:07 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: I am sure that you won't have any problems finding speakers. Mr Dewhirst could always give a speech on why he thinks that django is better than the other umpteen web application frameworks. On second thoughts, don't allow him to ever give such a talk; I get no joy out of someone looking like a fool for saying something that's utterly indefensible. I will bang on about this point till the year dot. I would NEVER make such a statement. Not Cake, not asp.NET, not ROR, not anything. To say what Mike said is as dumb as saying that the only car that's worth driving is say, a F1 Ferrari race car. Just because it's faster than a dune buggy doesn't preclude the dune buggy from doing stuff that a Ferrari can not do. One tip in life: do not make stupid absolutist statements around arts graduates like myself. We know how to think. We haven't spent our lives staring at pointers. Andrew Thornton > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:23:48 +1000 > From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com > To: melbourne-pug at python.org > Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! > > On 27 June 2011 09:32, Richard Jones wrote: > > The next Melbourne Python Users Group meeting will be on the 4th of > > July at RMIT. Full details and talk signup at http://j.mp/mpug > > > > I'll be talking about mooch (it won't take long). And the PyCon AU > > program. We may get some PyCon AU talk previews... > > Actually, I won't be able to make it at all as I'll be in > single-parent mode. This means the talk slate is clean. Anyone can > step up at this point! :-) > > > Richard > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anthony.briggs at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 13:36:38 2011 From: anthony.briggs at gmail.com (Anthony Briggs) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:36:38 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Andrew, Just to make it completely clear, flaming people like this on the list is utterly unacceptable. This is the second time you've done it - please cut it out. Thanks, Anthony On 27 June 2011 20:52, Andrew Thornton wrote: > I am sure that you won't have any problems finding speakers. Mr Dewhirst > could always give a speech on why he thinks that django is better than the > other umpteen > web application frameworks. On second thoughts, don't allow him to ever give > such a talk; I get no joy out of someone looking like a fool for saying > something that's > utterly indefensible. > > I will bang on about this point till the year dot. I would NEVER make such a > statement. Not Cake, not asp.NET, not ROR, not anything. To say what Mike > said > is as dumb as saying that the only car that's worth driving is say, a F1 > Ferrari race car. Just because it's faster than a dune buggy doesn't > preclude the dune buggy from > doing stuff that a Ferrari can not do. > > One tip in life: do not make stupid absolutist statements around arts > graduates like myself. We know how to think. We haven't spent our lives > staring at pointers. > > Andrew Thornton > >> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:23:48 +1000 >> From: r1chardj0n3s at gmail.com >> To: melbourne-pug at python.org >> Subject: Re: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want >> to MPUG! >> >> On 27 June 2011 09:32, Richard Jones wrote: >> > The next Melbourne Python Users Group meeting will be on the 4th of >> > July at RMIT. Full details and talk signup at http://j.mp/mpug >> > >> > I'll be talking about mooch (it won't take long). And the PyCon AU >> > program. We may get some PyCon AU talk previews... >> >> Actually, I won't be able to make it at all as I'll be in >> single-parent mode. This means the talk slate is clean. Anyone can >> step up at this point! :-) >> >> >> Richard >> _______________________________________________ >> melbourne-pug mailing list >> melbourne-pug at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 13:56:18 2011 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:56:18 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! Message-ID: Andrew, Your email is completely unacceptable. Regardless of your personal views, which are of course your own, this is not a reasonable way to communicate in a public forum. If you would like to discuss this, please let me know. To anyone else on the mailing list, this is not the tone or style of the MPUG meetings and I would encourage you to feel comfortable to attend without any risk of an earbashing like this. I am not sure that we have set a clear policy for this mailing list, however I would suggest that the best way to deal with a troll is to starve them of air rather than engaging with the topic. I am sure the list moderators will be discussing this further to make sure it does not recur. Mike, I apologise for any offense this has caused you. Regards, Tennessee On 27/06/2011 8:53 PM, "Andrew Thornton" wrote: -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From william.leslie.ttg at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 13:11:17 2011 From: william.leslie.ttg at gmail.com (William ML Leslie) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:11:17 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <877h87edgq.wl%william.leslie.ttg@gmail.com> At Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:52:07 +1000, Andrew Thornton wrote: > I am sure that you won't have any problems finding speakers. Mr > Dewhirst could always give a speech on why he thinks that django is > better than the other umpteen web application frameworks. On second > thoughts, don't allow him to ever give such a talk; I get no joy out > of someone looking like a fool for saying something that's utterly > indefensible. I can't find that quote in my logs. Yet, so what? People will have opinions that differ from yours. If you write a whiny email for every time someone is wrong on the internet, you will be very busy. You won't have time to get around to statements you merely disagree with. There is one exception: where people are wrong because they are simply not aware of some of the issues involved. But ultimately, if people don't want to learn, there is nothing you can teach them. Besides, there are far more interesting points to argue about. > I will bang on about this point till the year dot. I would NEVER > make such a statement. Not Cake, not asp.NET, not ROR, not > anything. To say what Mike said is as dumb as saying that the only > car that's worth driving is say, a F1 Ferrari race car. Just because > it's faster than a dune buggy doesn't preclude the dune buggy from > doing stuff that a Ferrari can not do. Good for you, I guess. > One tip in life: do not make stupid absolutist statements around > arts graduates like myself. We know how to think. We haven't spent > our lives staring at pointers. Sorry, elitism doesn't impress anybody. Qualifications don't mean a thing if you aren't saying anything meaningful after all. In fact, if you are, they don't mean anything either. I think I'm not the only one that is getting tired of these pointless and off-topic personal attacks, especially because they are ruining the mood of the PUG. Please consider directing your energy elsewhere. William ML Leslie From ryan at uanywhere.com.au Mon Jun 27 14:29:03 2011 From: ryan at uanywhere.com.au (Ryan Verner) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:29:03 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: <877h87edgq.wl%william.leslie.ttg@gmail.com> References: <877h87edgq.wl%william.leslie.ttg@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3915989D-8C0C-46A6-96B0-7F3A0ED97837@uanywhere.com.au> Don't feed the troll. On 27/06/2011, at 21:11 , William ML Leslie wrote: > At Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:52:07 +1000, > Andrew Thornton wrote: >> I am sure that you won't have any problems finding speakers. Mr >> Dewhirst could always give a speech on why he thinks that django is >> better than the other umpteen web application frameworks. On second >> thoughts, don't allow him to ever give such a talk; I get no joy out >> of someone looking like a fool for saying something that's utterly >> indefensible. > > I can't find that quote in my logs. > > Yet, so what? People will have opinions that differ from yours. If > you write a whiny email for every time someone is wrong on the > internet, you will be very busy. You won't have time to get around to > statements you merely disagree with. > > There is one exception: where people are wrong because they are simply > not aware of some of the issues involved. But ultimately, if people > don't want to learn, there is nothing you can teach them. > > Besides, there are far more interesting points to argue about. > >> I will bang on about this point till the year dot. I would NEVER >> make such a statement. Not Cake, not asp.NET, not ROR, not >> anything. To say what Mike said is as dumb as saying that the only >> car that's worth driving is say, a F1 Ferrari race car. Just because >> it's faster than a dune buggy doesn't preclude the dune buggy from >> doing stuff that a Ferrari can not do. > > Good for you, I guess. > >> One tip in life: do not make stupid absolutist statements around >> arts graduates like myself. We know how to think. We haven't spent >> our lives staring at pointers. > > Sorry, elitism doesn't impress anybody. Qualifications don't mean a > thing if you aren't saying anything meaningful after all. In fact, if > you are, they don't mean anything either. > > I think I'm not the only one that is getting tired of these pointless > and off-topic personal attacks, especially because they are ruining > the mood of the PUG. Please consider directing your energy elsewhere. > > William ML Leslie > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From anthony.briggs at gmail.com Mon Jun 27 14:37:50 2011 From: anthony.briggs at gmail.com (Anthony Briggs) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:37:50 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: <3915989D-8C0C-46A6-96B0-7F3A0ED97837@uanywhere.com.au> References: <877h87edgq.wl%william.leslie.ttg@gmail.com> <3915989D-8C0C-46A6-96B0-7F3A0ED97837@uanywhere.com.au> Message-ID: On 27 June 2011 22:29, Ryan Verner wrote: > Don't feed the troll. Yep - there's been enough said on the topic now. Thanks, Anthony From miked at dewhirst.com.au Tue Jun 28 00:50:45 2011 From: miked at dewhirst.com.au (Mike Dewhirst) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:50:45 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] It's the dead of winter, of course you want to MPUG! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4E090945.7040106@dewhirst.com.au> On 27/06/2011 9:56pm, Tennessee Leeuwenburg wrote: > > Andrew, > > Your email is completely unacceptable. Regardless of your personal > views, which are of course your own, this is not a reasonable way to > communicate in a public forum. If you would like to discuss this, > please let me know. > > To anyone else on the mailing list, this is not the tone or style of > the MPUG meetings and I would encourage you to feel comfortable to > attend without any risk of an earbashing like this. > > I am not sure that we have set a clear policy for this mailing list, > however I would suggest that the best way to deal with a troll is to > starve them of air rather than engaging with the topic. I am sure the > list moderators will be discussing this further to make sure it does > not recur. > > Mike, I apologise for any offense this has caused you. > Tennessee (and others) Don't worry. I don't. I'm sure Andrew will recover his equilibrium in due course. BTW - my apologies for Monday. I'll be attending a 4yo birthday party in Perth :) Cheers Mike > Regards, > Tennessee > > On 27/06/2011 8:53 PM, "Andrew Thornton" > wrote: > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From rasjidw at openminddev.net Tue Jun 28 03:49:18 2011 From: rasjidw at openminddev.net (Rasjid Wilcox) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:49:18 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unit testing framework Message-ID: <4E09331E.1090006@openminddev.net> Hi all, Someone here recommended a particular unit testing framework - one that allows distributed testing, but I can't remember its name, and my google foo is not working today. Mostly I've used Nose. Cheers, Rasjid. From afort at choqolat.org Tue Jun 28 04:15:41 2011 From: afort at choqolat.org (Andrew Fort) Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:15:41 -0700 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unit testing framework In-Reply-To: <4E09331E.1090006@openminddev.net> References: <4E09331E.1090006@openminddev.net> Message-ID: On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > Hi all, > > Someone here recommended a particular unit testing framework - one that > allows distributed testing, but I can't remember its name, and my google foo > is not working today. ?Mostly I've used Nose. > > Cheers, > Rasjid. py.test can do this (both multi-process on a single machine and distributed to multiple machines via a plugin). check out http://doc.pytest.org/en/latest/xdist.html From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 04:16:16 2011 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 12:16:16 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Unit testing framework In-Reply-To: <4E09331E.1090006@openminddev.net> References: <4E09331E.1090006@openminddev.net> Message-ID: py.test will do it. Cheers, -T On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Rasjid Wilcox wrote: > Hi all, > > Someone here recommended a particular unit testing framework - one that > allows distributed testing, but I can't remember its name, and my google foo > is not working today. Mostly I've used Nose. > > Cheers, > > Rasjid. > > ______________________________**_________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/**mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mostly I've used Nose. >> >> Cheers, >> Rasjid. > py.test can do this (both multi-process on a single machine and > distributed to multiple machines via a plugin). > > check out http://doc.pytest.org/en/latest/xdist.html > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug From kiran.busi at gmail.com Tue Jun 28 12:57:38 2011 From: kiran.busi at gmail.com (Kiran Busi) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 20:57:38 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Emacs as python IDE Message-ID: A few meetups ago, there was a question about which IDE most people use. If you're an emacs person trying to setup python with autocomplete and snippets, etc, this is the best package I've found to get started which works out of the box. https://github.com/gabrielelanaro/emacs-for-python hope others find it useful. -- kb -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brian.curtin at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 05:16:02 2011 From: brian.curtin at gmail.com (Brian Curtin) Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:16:02 -0500 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python User Group International Survey Message-ID: The PSF is happy to launch today an international survey of Python user group organizers to help it better serve the large and ever-expanding international Python user community. The survey contains questions on user group organization, events, demographics, and growth. There are some questions with numerical answers, and while your best guess is fine, you may find it helpful to gather some statistics on your user group membership before starting the survey (example statistics include the number of active members and the size and topics for recent user group events). We expect this survey to take around 30 minutes to complete. We appreciate your time and honesty in answering these questions. The PSF blog post announcing the survey: http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2011/06/tell-us-about-your-user-group.html The survey was written by Jessica McKellar (http://jesstess.com), organizer for the Boston Python Meetup (http://meetup.bostonpython.com), and Jesse Noller (http://jessenoller.com/), PSF board member and PyCon chair with input and feedback from survey specialists and others. https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BWLG8SZ The survey was pretested with a handful of user group organizers, and their answers were phenomenal. Organizers have tons to say about these topics, and we hope to get a lot of great, actionable data for strengthening the relationship between the PSF and Python user groups out of this effort. Outreach, education, diversity and community building are critical for Python as a community, and the Foundation - this data should greatly assist in our targeting our resources and furthering the mission of the Foundation in all ways. 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There are some questions with numerical > answers, and while your best guess is fine, you may find it helpful to > gather some statistics on your user group membership before starting > the survey (example statistics include the number of active members > and the size and topics for recent user group events). > > We expect this survey to take around 30 minutes to complete. We > appreciate your time and honesty in answering these questions. > > The PSF blog post announcing the survey: > http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2011/06/tell-us-about-your-user-group.html > > The survey was written by Jessica McKellar (http://jesstess.com), > organizer for the Boston Python Meetup > (http://meetup.bostonpython.com), and Jesse Noller > (http://jessenoller.com/), PSF board member and PyCon chair with input > and feedback from survey specialists and others. > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BWLG8SZ > > The survey was pretested with a handful of user group organizers, and > their answers were phenomenal. Organizers have tons to say about these > topics, and we hope to get a lot of great, actionable data for > strengthening the relationship between the PSF and Python user groups > out of this effort. > > Outreach, education, diversity and community building are critical for > Python as a community, and the Foundation - this data should greatly > assist in our targeting our resources and furthering the mission of > the Foundation in all ways. > > Thank you > > The Python Software Foundation > Jessica McKellar > Jesse Noller > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Wed Jun 29 05:39:08 2011 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:39:08 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] Python User Group International Survey In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, two sets of responses should let them correlate the results then :) Cheers, -T On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Richard Jones wrote: > I have already filled in the survey for MPUG. > > On 29 June 2011 13:16, Brian Curtin wrote: > > The PSF is happy to launch today an international survey of Python user > > group organizers to help it better serve the large and ever-expanding > > international Python user community. > > > > The survey contains questions on user group organization, events, > > demographics, and growth. There are some questions with numerical > > answers, and while your best guess is fine, you may find it helpful to > > gather some statistics on your user group membership before starting > > the survey (example statistics include the number of active members > > and the size and topics for recent user group events). > > > > We expect this survey to take around 30 minutes to complete. We > > appreciate your time and honesty in answering these questions. > > > > The PSF blog post announcing the survey: > > http://pyfound.blogspot.com/2011/06/tell-us-about-your-user-group.html > > > > The survey was written by Jessica McKellar (http://jesstess.com), > > organizer for the Boston Python Meetup > > (http://meetup.bostonpython.com), and Jesse Noller > > (http://jessenoller.com/), PSF board member and PyCon chair with input > > and feedback from survey specialists and others. > > > > https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/BWLG8SZ > > > > The survey was pretested with a handful of user group organizers, and > > their answers were phenomenal. Organizers have tons to say about these > > topics, and we hope to get a lot of great, actionable data for > > strengthening the relationship between the PSF and Python user groups > > out of this effort. > > > > Outreach, education, diversity and community building are critical for > > Python as a community, and the Foundation - this data should greatly > > assist in our targeting our resources and furthering the mission of > > the Foundation in all ways. > > > > Thank you > > > > The Python Software Foundation > > Jessica McKellar > > Jesse Noller > > _______________________________________________ > > melbourne-pug mailing list > > melbourne-pug at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > > > > > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug > -- -------------------------------------------------- Tennessee Leeuwenburg http://myownhat.blogspot.com/ "Don't believe everything you think" -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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A Sprint is an opportunity for people to get together and do focussed development on a project in a fun and welcoming atmosphere. Experienced developers will be on hand to help newcomers get started, so bring your laptops and take this opportunity to contribute to the Python ecosystem! The sprints will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of August at the Sydney Masonic Center. Sprint leaders and topics so far include: Nick Coghlan: Python core development Audrey Roy/Danny Greenfeld: Django and/or Packaginator Richard Jones: Python Package Index For more information and updates see: http://www.pycon-au.org/2011/sprints/ Please register your interest by emailing pycon-reg at pycon-au.org. Thanks to our Sponsors ====================== Thanks once again to the following companies for their continuing support of Python and for helping to make PyCon Australia 2011 a reality: Gold: Google Gold: ComOps Silver: Anchor Silver: Enthought Silver: Python Software Foundation Silver: WingWare Silver: Superior Recruitment Thanks also to Linux Australia, who provide the overarching legal and organisational structure for PyCon Australia. Ryan Kelly PyCon Australia 2011 From tleeuwenburg at gmail.com Thu Jun 30 00:25:43 2011 From: tleeuwenburg at gmail.com (Tennessee Leeuwenburg) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 08:25:43 +1000 Subject: [melbourne-pug] PyCon Australia 2011: Sprints In-Reply-To: <1309328390.17821.29.camel@durian> References: <1309328390.17821.29.camel@durian> Message-ID: Not to mention a great opportunity to get to know some people and learn from the experience! :-) On 29/06/2011 4:21 PM, "Ryan Kelly" wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > > We have confirmed arrangements for two days of Sprints following PyCon > Au this year. This will be a great opportunity to contribute to the > Python ecosystem under the guidance of experienced developers, so bring > your laptops! > > PyCon Australia is Australia's only conference dedicated exclusively to > the Python programming language, and will be held at the Sydney Masonic > Center over the weekend of August 20 and 21. See below for more > information and updates on: > > 1. Post-Conference Sprints > 2. Thanks to our Sponsors > > Please pass this message on to those you feel may be interested. > > > > Post-Conference Sprints > ======================= > > We are taking up the global PyCon tradition of post-conference sprints > this year at PyCon Au. > > A Sprint is an opportunity for people to get together and do focussed > development on a project in a fun and welcoming atmosphere. Experienced > developers will be on hand to help newcomers get started, so bring your > laptops and take this opportunity to contribute to the Python ecosystem! > > The sprints will be held on the 22nd and 23rd of August at the Sydney > Masonic Center. 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