From jim.killock at hebffinia.com  Thu Jun 23 22:13:07 2005
From: jim.killock at hebffinia.com (Jim Killock)
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 21:13:07 +0100
Subject: [Mailman3-dev] Interface and timescales
Message-ID: <36B2DB5A-E423-11D9-AFDC-0003935625EC@hebffinia.com>

Hi

Let me first just say that I am not a coder - although I am an html web 
designer and involved in one or two FOSS projects.

What I am interested in re: Mailman 3 is possibly having some input 
into the html design / interface design. I'd like at least to make some 
suggestions as it gets built.

I am currently also helping run a mailman list server with over 80 
lists and counting so some of the problems you are looking at here seem 
very worthwhile solving, it's very encouraging; so I'll just listen in 
a lot of the time. (btw, I'd be interested to know what your timescales 
are too!)

Jim
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From slc at publicus.net  Wed Jun 15 00:50:14 2005
From: slc at publicus.net (Steven Clift)
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:50:14 -0000
Subject: [Mailman3-dev] FYI - GroupServer
Message-ID: <E1DiKET-0004aF-00@pop-satin.atl.sa.earthlink.net>


The list owner of the mailman-cabal list suggested that it was best that
I posted this message here.

I'd love to have Mailman developers kick the tires really hard on this
new open source tool and tell me what you think.

Thanks,
Steven Clift

P.S. Here is our install:
http://forums.e-democracy.org

------- Forwarded message follows -------
From:           	Steven Clift <clift at publicus.net>
To:             	mailman-cabal at python.org


Greetings Mailman team and a few MM3 posters,

As a long time Mailman user 
<http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/>, I want to give you the
courtesy of a heads up on GroupServer.  It is a GPL'd Zope-based
e-mail list/web forum online group tool.  It builds in part on
Mailboxer <http://mjablonski.zope.de/MailBoxer>.

Our non-profit <http:://e-democracy.org> helped fund some of the
GroupServer features and we'd like to generate constructive criticism
of this tool.  I don't know how it compares to your plans for MM3, but
the biggest benefit for us as users is the integrated e-mail/web forum
option with native RSS.

Anyway, take a peak:
http://www.groupserver.org

Our non-profit's take:
http://e-democracy.org/groupserver

It probably has 1/2 of mailman's maillist feature and 1/2 phpbb's web
forum features.  Normally, this would stink, but for once the divide
between e-mail list users and web forum users (who hate the other
medium - but we must bridge for our local community online forums) seems
to be crossed pretty well.


Cheers,
Steven Clift


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