[Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https yet another follow-up

[Dan Collins]

Hi again Y'all -

I think I now understand what you said before, Vince.  I need a unique ip 
for each 443 port I set up, not one ip, qualified by Server Name, Server 
Alias and port, right? So, I'll need to remove the Mailman config from the 
second-virtual-server so that Mailman on SSL processes the .org server name 
only.

That's easy enough. My lingering question is "why does https work with mysql 
admin for instance on the second server?" (No cross-over server or alias 
confusion.) Is that because its a separate server?

Anyway, thanks for the quick response and great information.  I'll return to 
lurking now.

Dan


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Collins" <bigtuner at comcast.net>
To: "Vince Van De Coevering" <vpv at figaros.com>; <Mailman-Users at python.org>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https follow-up


> Hello Vince, Mark and all --
>
> Well, I ran the withlists program (duh! can't believe I forgot to do this)
> on the one list I want to run from the second-virtual -host only. But now
> (maybe before, too), I can go into any list under https xxx.org, https
> www.xxx.org, https www.second-virtual-host, but not just plain https
> second-virtual-host. (It recognizes the server Alias but not the server
> name). The confusion only appears to be happening with mailman.Yes, I
> restarted Apache. Obviously, this is not what I want and I should have 
> just
> left well enough alone. Dang.
>
> Vince, I have four virtual hosts on my machine (running Apache) - In
> httpd.conf,  I have the ip address with port 80 or 443 for each of the two
> hosts. I have mailman and pipermail set up for each host under the 443 
> port
> like so
>
> <VirtualHost xxx.xx.xxx.xx:443>
>
> Alias   /pipermail     "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public"
>
> <Directory "/usr/local/mailman/archives/public">
> AddDefaultCharset Off
> Options FollowSymLinks
> AllowOverride None
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> </Directory>
>
> ScriptAlias /mailman    "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin"
>
> <Directory "/usr/local/mailman/cgi-bin">
>        Options ExecCGI FollowSymlinks MultiViews
>   AllowOverride None
>        Order allow,deny
>        Allow from all
>    </Directory>
>
> All enclosed in the <VirtualHost xxx.xx.xxx.xx:443> container for each 
> host
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Vince Van De Coevering" <vpv at figaros.com>
> To: "'Dan Collins'" <bigtuner at comcast.net>; <Mailman-Users at python.org>
> Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:31 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https
>
>
>> Sorry for the top post but I really don't have any in-line comments...
>>
>> Dan,
>>
>> Is it safe to assume that you are using apache as your web server?
>>
>> Have you set up each of your virtual domains with its own IP address or
>> are
>> you attempting to share the same IP address between multiple servers? 
>> SSL
>> doesn't support name based virtual hosting so you will need a unique IP
>> address for each domain.
>>
>>
>> Vince Van De Coevering
>> IT Manager
>> Figaro's Italian Pizza, Inc.
>> 503-371-9318 x216
>> vpv at figaros.com
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dan Collins [mailto:bigtuner at comcast.net]
>>> Sent: August 01, 2005 8:56 AM
>>> To: Mailman-Users at python.org
>>> Subject: [Mailman-Users] virtual hosts and https
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello All -
>>>
>>> With Mark Sapiro's help, I got Mailman running on my apache
>>> virtual server, at least for the most important virtual host,
>>> xxx.org.  I'd like to get Mailman to deliver from either of
>>> my two virtual hosts both over https. I have mailman and
>>> pipermail dirs set up in httpd.conf under each of the virtual
>>> hosts. I'm using Sendmail.
>>>
>>> So, before unsubscribing from this list, I have a couple of
>>> questions. -
>>>
>>> 1) In the mm_cfg.py file, I have
>>>
>>> DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST = 'xxxx.org'
>>> DEFAULT_URL_HOST = 'xxxx.org'
>>> DEFAULT_URL_PATTERN = 'https://%s/mailman/'
>>> VIRTUAL_HOSTS.clear()
>>> add_virtualhost(DEFAULT_URL_HOST, DEFAULT_EMAIL_HOST) (NOTE:
>>> doesn't need quotes, right? It worked fine without quotes)
>>> add_virtualhost('second-virtual-host.com',
>>> 'second-virtual-host.com') (NOTE: needs quotes or I get an
>>> error message when running mailmanctl restart)
>>>
>>> Right now, the list I want to run from second-virtual-host
>>> and its admin pages come up under https://xxxx.org . When I
>>> try to use the web interface from
>>> second-virtual-host/mailman/admin/list-name, I get 404 error
>>> still under https://xxxx.org .
>>>
>>> I changed the list setting to second-virtual-host.com, so now
>>> Overview at the bottom of the page includes
>>> second-virtual-host.com, but all links at the bottom of the
>>> page (including Overview) shows the url as https://xxxx.org .
>>> In other words, I can not reach the list from
>>> second-virtual-host.com, either http or https.
>>>
>>> I hope that this message is clear enough to spell out my
>>> problem and hopefully initiate a useful response.
>>>
>>> Thanks as always.
>>>
>>> Dan
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