From matt at feifarek.org  Thu Mar 11 23:40:42 2010
From: matt at feifarek.org (Matt Feifarek)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:40:42 -0600
Subject: [Madison] Get Google Fiber in Madison!
Message-ID: <6fb6dbfe1003111440x51b90312r461d8a1e887607cf@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=10150124329335650&index=1

There's a meeting tonight at Olbrich gardens... a sort of public hearing I
think, held by the city.

Madison is trying to lobby Google to install fiber to the home in Madison.

More details here:
http://www.madfiber.net/

I'm planning to go. Needless to say, it would be outstanding should Madison
get the nod.
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From benetd at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 12 00:48:09 2010
From: benetd at yahoo.com (Benet Devereux)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:48:09 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
Message-ID: <60623.37682.qm@web110711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

So we are aiming to have a meeting the last Saturday of this month, the 26th. The idea of structuring the meeting around lightning talks seems to have legs, so let's try that. At ChiPy they seem to aim for 4 lightning talks per monthly meeting - let's see if we can line up 3 for this one!

You only have to spend 10 minutes talking about something you're working on, some technology you've been using, or anything Python-related that interests you.

Anyone?


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From benetd at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 12 00:49:31 2010
From: benetd at yahoo.com (Benet Devereux)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:49:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Madison] Get Google Fiber in Madison!
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--- On Thu, 3/11/10, Matt Feifarek <matt at feifarek.org> wrote:

> From: Matt Feifarek <matt at feifarek.org>
> Subject: [Madison] Get Google Fiber in Madison!
> To: "Madison Python Users' Group" <madison at python.org>
> Received: Thursday, March 11, 2010, 4:40 PM
> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=10150124329335650&index=1
> 
> 
> There's a meeting tonight at Olbrich
> gardens... a sort of public hearing I think, held by the
> city.
> Madison is trying to lobby Google to install
> fiber to the home in Madison.
> 
> 
> More details here:http://www.madfiber.net/
> I'm planning to go. Needless to say, it
> would be outstanding should Madison get the nod.

That would be great; I have a prior commitment, but good to hear someone from the group can make it! 


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From matt.feifarek at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 21:48:51 2010
From: matt.feifarek at gmail.com (Matt Feifarek)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 15:48:51 -0500
Subject: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
In-Reply-To: <60623.37682.qm@web110711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <60623.37682.qm@web110711.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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So, turns out I'll be in town. (though, the 26th is a Friday, so I'm
assuming we're talking the 27th?)

I could give a quick talk on one of these things:

1. SQLAlchemy's "Expression language" layer (closer to SQL than ORM)

2. Overview of Pylons web development framework

3. Using WingIDE to code python (seems that most people are just using text
editors... I like Wing, and can show why)

4. Using Mako to make "static" websites and why. (This should probably come
after I show off Pylons)

5. Virtualenv. (if you're not using it, you probably should be. This might
be more like 5m than 10m)

So, you guys can vote; otherwise, I'll just pick one as the week wraps up.

Has anyone been to PyCon this year? I'd love to see a "Best of Show" talk
about what you saw there.

? Matt
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From benetd at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 24 20:25:26 2010
From: benetd at yahoo.com (Benet Devereux)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 12:25:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
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Yeah, I did mean the 27th, good catch.

Matt, thanks for all these ideas - but unless we're going to demand 3 talks from you, it seems like this whole month has been pretty bad for people, and we should start planning for an April meeting, at a time when we can get a better turnout.

A couple of follow-on administrative type questions for everyone:

- right now we're trying to make sure that, before having a meeting, we have at least 3 people lined up to give short talks, and a reasonable expectation of good turnout. Do people like this, provided we can keep everyone in the loop via this list/Web608/Facebook, or would it suit people's needs better if, like before, we set a regular meeting schedule, and met come rain come shine - if no talks get lined up, it can be a social meeting.
- speaking of Web608, as a third alternative, how would people feel about splitting social meetings from technical meetings?


--- On Sun, 3/21/10, Matt Feifarek <matt.feifarek at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Matt Feifarek <matt.feifarek at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
To: "Madison Python Users' Group" <madison at python.org>
Received: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 3:48 PM

So, turns out I'll be in town. (though, the 26th is a Friday, so I'm assuming we're talking the 27th?)
I could give a quick talk on one of these things:
1. SQLAlchemy's "Expression language" layer (closer to SQL than ORM)


2. Overview of Pylons web development framework
3. Using WingIDE to code python (seems that most people are just using text editors... I like Wing, and can show why)


4. Using Mako to make "static" websites and why. (This should probably come after I show off Pylons)
5. Virtualenv. (if you're not using it, you probably should be. This might be more like 5m than 10m)


So, you guys can vote; otherwise, I'll just pick one as the week wraps up.
Has anyone been to PyCon this year? I'd love to see a "Best of Show" talk about what you saw there.


? Matt



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From jolly at cs.wisc.edu  Wed Mar 24 23:32:18 2010
From: jolly at cs.wisc.edu (James Jolly)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:32:18 -0500
Subject: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
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My vote goes to focusing on technical meetings.  This may be a personality thing, but I don't like the idea of planning social gatherings.  Seems like that should just grow out of meeting regularly.

Hey Matt, if you're itching to do a presentation, how about the next MadLUG?  We're going to try out the lightning talks format there.

The next MadLUG is Sunday, April 4.  Perhaps you could fire up a shell and show people how to setup a simple Pylons webapp?

Benet Devereux wrote:
> Yeah, I did mean the 27th, good catch.
> 
> Matt, thanks for all these ideas - but unless we're going to demand 3 
> talks from you, it seems like this whole month has been pretty bad for 
> people, and we should start planning for an April meeting, at a time 
> when we can get a better turnout.
> 
> A couple of follow-on administrative type questions for everyone:
> 
> - right now we're trying to make sure that, before having a meeting, we 
> have at least 3 people lined up to give short talks, and a reasonable 
> expectation of good turnout. Do people like this, provided we can keep 
> everyone in the loop via this list/Web608/Facebook, or would it suit 
> people's needs better if, like before, we set a regular meeting 
> schedule, and met come rain come shine - if no talks get lined up, it 
> can be a social meeting.
> - speaking of Web608, as a third alternative, how would people feel 
> about splitting social meetings from technical meetings?
> 
> --- On *Sun, 3/21/10, Matt Feifarek /<matt.feifarek at gmail.com>/* wrote:
> 
>     From: Matt Feifarek <matt.feifarek at gmail.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
>     To: "Madison Python Users' Group" <madison at python.org>
>     Received: Sunday, March 21, 2010, 3:48 PM
> 
>     So, turns out I'll be in town. (though, the 26th is a Friday, so I'm
>     assuming we're talking the 27th?)
> 
>     I could give a quick talk on one of these things:
> 
>     1. SQLAlchemy's "Expression language" layer (closer to SQL than ORM)
> 
>     2. Overview of Pylons web development framework
> 
>     3. Using WingIDE to code python (seems that most people are just
>     using text editors... I like Wing, and can show why)
> 
>     4. Using Mako to make "static" websites and why. (This should
>     probably come after I show off Pylons)
> 
>     5. Virtualenv. (if you're not using it, you probably should be. This
>     might be more like 5m than 10m)
> 
>     So, you guys can vote; otherwise, I'll just pick one as the week
>     wraps up.
> 
>     Has anyone been to PyCon this year? I'd love to see a "Best of Show"
>     talk about what you saw there.
> 
>     ? Matt 

From matt.feifarek at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 17:43:57 2010
From: matt.feifarek at gmail.com (Matt Feifarek)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:43:57 -0500
Subject: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
In-Reply-To: <816536.23593.qm@web110707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <6fb6dbfe1003211348n348b5f46p523558d0e538bf2c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<816536.23593.qm@web110707.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
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On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Benet Devereux <benetd at yahoo.com> wrote:

> it seems like this whole month has been pretty bad for people, and we
> should start planning for an April meeting, at a time when we can get a
> better turnout.
>

Fair enough.




> - right now we're trying to make sure that, before having a meeting, we
> have at least 3 people lined up to give short talks, and a reasonable
> expectation of good turnout. Do people like this, provided we can keep
> everyone in the loop via this


I think 3 people / 3 talks is a little ambitious.

What if we do 2 talks and allow for Q&A and discussion afterwards; at most,
each block being 30m (10-15 talk, 15-20 follow-up).

Of course there is a natural tension between ease of entry (5 minute
lightning talks easier to prepare) and quantity. I would hope that 10-15m
wouldn't be too much harder.



> list/Web608/Facebook, or would it suit people's needs better if, like
> before, we set a regular meeting schedule, and met come rain come shine - if
> no talks get lined up, it can be a social


I'd defer to you others on this; I have so little experience with the group,
I don't know what might be the reason for attendance, getting-the-word-out
etc.

I think that the "social meetings" seems to be a natural extension of the
technical meetings, but again, I'm new, so don't really know the patterns
that you guys have established.
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From matt.feifarek at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 17:47:57 2010
From: matt.feifarek at gmail.com (Matt Feifarek)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:47:57 -0500
Subject: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
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	<4BAA92F2.1020605@cs.wisc.edu>
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On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, James Jolly <jolly at cs.wisc.edu> wrote:

>
> Hey Matt, if you're itching to do a presentation, how about the next
> MadLUG?  We're going to try out the lightning talks format there.
>
> The next MadLUG is Sunday, April 4.  Perhaps you could fire up a shell and
> show people how to setup a simple Pylons webapp?


I'm not "itching" per-se, I just wanted to contribute.

I haven't been to a LUG; I'd like to attend sometime.

April 4th seems to be Easter; maybe that's a problem for some people... not
really for me. I may be able to do a Pylons demo; I'll get back to you.
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From christopher.j.wilson at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 18:22:39 2010
From: christopher.j.wilson at gmail.com (Christopher Wilson)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:22:39 -0600
Subject: [Madison] March Meeting Planning
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On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Matt Feifarek <matt.feifarek at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:32 PM, James Jolly <jolly at cs.wisc.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hey Matt, if you're itching to do a presentation, how about the next
>> MadLUG? ?We're going to try out the lightning talks format there.
>>
>> The next MadLUG is Sunday, April 4. ?Perhaps you could fire up a shell and
>> show people how to setup a simple Pylons webapp?
>
> I'm not "itching" per-se, I just wanted to contribute.
> I haven't been to a LUG; I'd like to attend sometime.
> April 4th seems to be Easter; maybe that's a problem for some people... not
> really for me. I may be able to do a Pylons demo; I'll get back to you.

I think the MadLUG people would really like that.  There has been a
lot of Python talk lately, and so I'm sure it would be well-received.
If you do decide to do it, just drop a message to the MadLUG list:
madlug at madisonlinux.org

Thanks!

-- 
Chris Wilson <christopher.j.wilson at gmail.com>
(MadLUG steering committee, MadPy lurker)

From benetd at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 27 02:16:35 2010
From: benetd at yahoo.com (Benet Devereux)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:16:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Madison] PyWeek
Message-ID: <882809.67237.qm@web110715.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Just a break from administrivia to note that voting is open for the next PyWeek Python Game Programming Challenge (http://www.pyweek.org/) and the challenge itself starts Sunday. I'm planning to enter, though with my work schedule it might be a bit on the rudimentary side. But hey, an experience to talk about at the next meeting!

-Benet



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